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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;664886]Why not? Is the goal to be around .500 in 2010 or to be set-up for SB contention year in/year out for 2011 & beyond. We also have Campbell this year, unless another team gives us a trade that nets us at least a second rounder (to be used on OL). A rookie QB wouldn't need to start game 1 if Campbell is here.

Here's a question for the anti-QB crowd. If Okung (or whoever is picked at LT) turns out to be as good as Chris Samuels, I think we're all happy campers. However, how many Divisional playoff games & Conference championship games have we played in with Chris Samuels at LT?

[B]How many Divisional playoff games & Conference championships has NY been to with Eli, the Chargers with Rivers, Colts with Peyton, Eagles w/McNabb, Steelers w/Big Ben?[/B] Obviously there are several other factors to consider, but while the LT is very important it's not near the level of importance of an elite QB. If your team picks at #4 and a player the front office has rated as an elite QB prospect is there, you take the guy faster than the Orakpo pick in 2009. Period, end of story.

We have a 2nd round pick, there are UFAs out there, there will be a draft in 2011. Rome wasn't built in a day, you don't go from being 4-12 to being 12-4 on a consistent basis in a single off-season.[/quote]

Good point. It is very difficult to argue that the Colts win at least 12 games every year because of their left tackles. However, it is not difficult to argue that the Colts do so because they have Peyton.

While I am tired of our being beaten up front and I truly wish to upgrade the OL, overlooking the influence of an elite QB is not helpful.

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I agree. I think this draft is deep enough in tackles that we don't need to address it in the first round. I think we can safely take bradford with #4 and then focus on the line the rest of the draft (2nd rd charles brown OT, USC). You don't pick #4 overall often, and bradford is a quarterback that could conceivably evolve into a brees manning or brady. I think we have enough draft picks and carry enough weight in FA that we don't NEED to take okung at #4 to reliably reconstruct our OL (which of course is still our number 1 priority).

On the "transition to 3-4" note, the deadline for the patriots franchise tagging vince wilfork is less than a week away - if we're serious about playing the 3-4 defense I think we need to take a long hard look at him if he stays on the market as a UFA.

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[quote=Ruhskins;664859]And I have to disagree with you on the tackles, there are at least two tackles worth picking up at #4, and one (Okung) could start right away from day one. Can't say the same thing about Bradford or Clausen.[/quote]

True, but that doesn't have to be the intent of that pick. I think there's a good possibility that the organization wants to keep campbell unless we get an incredible bargain for him from some other team (tendered for 1st and 3rd pick), and let bradford develop behind him for a season or two. The value of a draft pick is not whether he can start right away, especially for quarterbacks, and especially for this team that needs an overhaul that can not be done in a single season.

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[quote=takethecake;664911]True, but that doesn't have to be the intent of that pick. I think there's a good possibility that the organization wants to keep campbell unless we get an incredible bargain for him from some other team (tendered for 1st and 3rd pick), and let bradford develop behind him for a season or two. The value of a draft pick is not whether he can start right away, especially for quarterbacks, and especially for this team that needs an overhaul that can not be done in a single season.[/quote]

Although I'm giving up on this, my fear is that....

Because of the uncapped year, FA talent is in the dumps right now. We're basically are going to rebuild our putrid offensive line with decent players and once again banking that low round picks are going to somehow come through.

So now we have Campbell under center, with a patched up offensive line (again). If he sucks (whether it is his fault or not), he'll be pulled, and in comes your future elite QB. And now you'll have your investment at #4 being protected by a piecemeal line.

But I'm giving up on getting that franchise tackle, hopefully we can either trade down or get a good return for Campbell.

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[quote=Ruhskins;664915]Although I'm giving up on this, my fear is that....

Because of the uncapped year, FA talent is in the dumps right now. We're basically are going to rebuild our putrid offensive line with decent players and once again banking that low round picks are going to somehow come through.

So now we have Campbell under center, with a patched up offensive line (again). If he sucks (whether it is his fault or not), he'll be pulled, and in comes your future elite QB. And now you'll have your investment at #4 being protected by a piecemeal line.

But I'm giving up on getting that franchise tackle, hopefully we can either trade down or get a good return for Campbell.[/quote]

Or he sucks, gets pulled and in comes...Colt Brennan behind Russell Okung? Is that any better?

I think they can get a very strong LT at the top of the 2nd round or even, if they feel they must, trade up into the late 1st to get one.

I wouldn't give up on the idea of them getting an LT at #4. Though I would say I've never heard the name Okung mentioned (not to this point at least)

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I see your concerns, but I just think that not using the #4 pick on an OT won't condemn us to having a "patched up OL." I think there are some legitimate options in FA (not many, but there are some), and that there is better later round OT talent in this particular draft than there usually is. I'm not banking on this being the ultimate solution, but between this year's draft and next year's draft, I think this gives us the most bang for our buck (well for our draft picks), and will certainly give us a better line next year than we had.

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[quote=takethecake;664919]I see your concerns, but I just think that not using the #4 pick on an OT won't condemn us to having a "patched up OL." I think there are some legitimate options in FA (not many, but there are some), and that there is better later round OT talent in this particular draft than there usually is. I'm not banking on this being the ultimate solution, but between this year's draft and next year's draft, I think this gives us the most bang for our buck (well for our draft picks), and will certainly give us a better line next year than we had.[/quote]

Agreed. I know that picking up a LT at #4 doesn't automatically solve our problems with the line. I just see an LT at #4 as more of a sure thing than a QB like Bradford.

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Would anyone be interested in trading C. Rodgers for SD's A. Cromartie? Cromartie might have had an off year, but could be a pro bowl caliber CB with the coaching staff we have in place.. Just an idea..

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[quote=skinzfan88;664936]Would anyone be interested in trading C. Rodgers for SD's A. Cromartie? Cromartie might have had an off year, but could be a pro bowl caliber CB with the coaching staff we have in place.. Just an idea..[/quote]that's being discussed in another thread, but no, it's not going to happen

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Sorry.. I realized that after I wrote it.. As u can see I'm a rookie..

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;664847]Since this thread is about Free Agency, I have some questions and some comments about what you wrote from the perspective of Free Agency.

[B]OL[/B] - I couldn't agree with you more about the OL. We need to leave no stone unturned to improve the OL. In the short term, at least, that's going to require signing some more FA's.

[B]QB [/B]- I also agree with you about JC. From my observations, there just isn't an OL worthy of the #4 pick, whereas I think that either Clausen or Bradford, or even both, could possibly be that elusive Franchise QB. So, I'd like to see the Skins take one of them with the #4 pick. But that leaves the matter of what to do with JC. If the Skins tender him at a 1st and a 3rd level, will they trade him or pay him to start one more season? I'd hate to miss out on the opportunity to get something for him.

[B]RB[/B] - I think we can go with Portis or Betts on 1st and 2nd downs. I see Rock as a "glue" guy and a valuable ST player. But we stiil need a 3rd down back and I think we should take a long look at Leon Washington, who is also a good return guy.

[B]WR[/B] - Like you, I'm not sold on the young WR's. But, T.O.? If you're going to bring in a head case, then trade for Brandon Marshall and extend his contract. He's a true #1 WR now and he's a good fit. As for the FA's, I have no problem with bringing one (or more) in to compete. I feel very confident about the WR decisions going forward because Shanny always had productive WR's and because I have all the respect in the world for Keenan McCardell as our WR's Coach.

[B]CB[/B] - I think Carlos will be better in a different scheme where he doesn't play so far off the ball. I'm not very worried about this position.

[B]FS[/B] - I agree with you.

[B]SS[/B] - I'd try to trade Landry.

BTW, it seems to you're thinking 4-3/3-4 hybrid on defense. I'm not thinking that way going forward - I'm thinking strictly 3-4 in terms of any player acqusitions. So, I feel that we need to look at FA's at ILB, OLB, NT, and DE.

I don't think Big Al is going to like the lack of a spotlight on him as a NT. He'll probably need to be a DE. So we'll need a NT. We should look to trade Carter who should have good value as a 4-3 DE but is not likely to fit well in a 3-4 defense as an OLB (based on his experience at the position in SF).[/quote]

In regards to trading JC, I don't think we would get the return we all would like. Tenduring him is ok cause I honestly don't think we will get what we will want for him but if we do excellent. If not then in my opinion we have our Vet. Cut Collins and look at whether Colt brings anything to the table. But drafting a Frachise QB in the top 5 is a must for our team future.

To me Rock is expendable. He's taking a whole position and is not an effective RB. I'd use Hall or Thomas here or if we can train Alridge and cut Rock. Bring in youth by drafting someone. Plus I'd only keep one of the older players either Portis or Betts which ever is healthier.

I'm neither here nor there on T.O. but Shanahan did try to aquire him while in Denver which means he likes T.O. which is why I bring up T.O. I get the feeling Shanahan tries again to make a play for him since there is no strings attached other then to sign him. But I think Walter and Bryant are in the same boat so maybe signing one of them would be better.

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[quote=skinzfan88;664955]Sorry.. I realized that after I wrote it.. As u can see I'm a rookie..[/quote]

It's all good, Welcome to the Warpath!!!!

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[quote=Dirtbag359;664286]Lets just trade Carlos Rogers and JC for second round picks and AH and Cooley for a pair of first round picks. Then we won't have to worry about free agents. lol[/quote]

Haynesworth and Cooley?

you lost your mind brotha?

Yea yea... lets just trade one the better DTs in the league, and one of the best TEs in the league for unproven draft picks.

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as far as Free Safety... LaRon Landry is fine.

We need a SS... if anything.

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[quote=Skins4L;665018]as far as Free Safety... LaRon Landry is fine.

We need a SS... if anything.[/quote]

Patiently waiting for Goats reply..........:)

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[quote=Skins4L;665017]Haynesworth and Cooley?

you lost your mind brotha?

Yea yea... lets just trade one the better DTs in the league, and one of the best TEs in the league for unproven draft picks.[/quote]

You're right. I didn't ask for enough picks. 5 first rounders for Haynesworth and Cooley. That way we won't even need to so much as look at free agency.

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[quote=53Fan;665024]Patiently waiting for Goats reply..........:)[/quote]

LOL no reply on the horizon...I'm DONE w/ that particular player.

I'm surprised this thread hasn't gone more in the direction of defense. I mean in all likelihood we have an offense oriented draft because of our desperate needs there and the fact we have an offense minded coach. But if Haslett really forces this change into a 3-4 you're facing pretty serious personnel changes required on defense as well, and FA would be the logical route since we're so limited on draft picks.

Looking at the DL it's very hard to see anyone but Albert having immediate success in a 3-4. Jarmon is actually talking about losing weight and transitioning to LB. Monty just hasn't shown anything to prove he can be a dominant NT, and like said elsewhere Albert could be sort of wasted at that position. Plus if Albert doesn't play RDE in the 3-4 who can you see on the roster playing that position? Who do you see at LDE? Daniels certainly has the strength/bulk but do you want to rely on an aging, injury prone player. Can Zoe hold LDE down in the 3-4?

Honestly, going primarily to a 3-4 probably requires two new additions to the starting cast on the DL...either NT and an end or two new ends. That's why Dansby seems unlikely.

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I am just curious, this being an uncapped year, and all the stuff with that; not including the draft how many total quality Free Agents does everyone think we will bring in, regardless of position. More than most of the league, on par with most of the league, or fewer than the rest of the league.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;665034]I am just curious, this being an uncapped year, and all the stuff with that; not including the draft how many total quality Free Agents does everyone think we will bring in, regardless of position. More than most of the league, on par with most of the league, or fewer than the rest of the league.[/quote]

A great question, that I can't answer w/ any confidence. What's interesting to consider is how many FAs we'll [I]need[/I] depending on our defensive scheme and draft decisions. Assuming we 1) draft two bookend tackles in the draft and 2) switch primarily to a 3-4 defense...then I count at least 4 quality FAs we'll need to sign in order to round things out.

Center
2 Defensive Linemen (combination of NT, End or two ends)
Free Safety

Historically speaking that would appear to be a very active and successful off-season in FA. Devil's advocate...if we stuck to a 4-3 defense I don't think the addition of 2 d-lineman is necessary. Two quality FA signings, Center and FS, is much more reasonable.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/19/2010-free-agent-quarterback-class-has-a-surprise-entry/]2010 free agent quarterback class has a surprise entry | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

chances he comes out of retirement and to DC are slim but just thought I'd throw this out there.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;665039][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/19/2010-free-agent-quarterback-class-has-a-surprise-entry/]2010 free agent quarterback class has a surprise entry | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

chances he comes out of retirement and to DC are slim but just thought I'd throw this out there.[/quote]


[quote=Jake Plummer;665039]"Well, he was what only five-four? But he wants them to think he's five-six. Hey man, that's just like his mansion, he wants you to think it's bigger than it is."[/quote]

Lol, yeah. Who in their right mind would think of benching a turnover machine with a 66.8 QB Rating through 11 games with your team somehow still in the playoff hunt? Pretty thankful guy though, I mean his stats might have got him a hall of fame nomination in 1939 but in this era he was pretty much an overrated scrambling QB.

I also thought this comment was pretty funny:
[quote]Don't tease DBs with INT clauses in their contracts like this!
[/quote]

Ironically Shanahan only had nice things to say about Plummer after he retired:
[quote]"Jake must be a pretty good handball player," Broncos coach Mike Shanahan said. "He's a great athlete. He uses his left hand almost as well as his right hand, which probably helps him in handball."

Read more: [url=http://www.denverpost.com/ci_7220039#ixzz0g3fMUY3m]Plummer's handball odyssey - The Denver Post[/url][/quote]

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[quote=The Goat;665032]LOL no reply on the horizon...I'm DONE w/ that particular player.

I'm surprised this thread hasn't gone more in the direction of defense. I mean in all likelihood we have an offense oriented draft because of our desperate needs there and the fact we have an offense minded coach. But if Haslett really forces this change into a 3-4 you're facing pretty serious personnel changes required on defense as well, and FA would be the logical route since we're so limited on draft picks.

Looking at the DL it's very hard to see anyone but Albert having immediate success in a 3-4. Jarmon is actually talking about losing weight and transitioning to LB. Monty just hasn't shown anything to prove he can be a dominant NT, and like said elsewhere Albert could be sort of wasted at that position. Plus if Albert doesn't play RDE in the 3-4 who can you see on the roster playing that position? Who do you see at LDE? Daniels certainly has the strength/bulk but do you want to rely on an aging, injury prone player. Can Zoe hold LDE down in the 3-4?

[B]Honestly, going primarily to a 3-4 probably requires two new additions to the starting cast on the DL...either NT and an end or two new ends.[/B] That's why Dansby seems unlikely.[/quote]

I agree and that's why I mentioned Dwan Edwards and Justin Bannan as UFA possibilities. I think they are both good players but they are ends and I just can't envision AH accepting a move to NT. So, I think it's going to take a FA mistake by NE, PIT, or GB or a trade to land an established NT. My preference at NT would be for the Skins to find a way to draft Dan Williams (6-3, 330) out of UT. I think he's going to be a heckuva NT in the pros.

I don't see why you thnk signing two DL's would rule out Dansby. All it would take is more money.

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So much is going to depend on if we can pull off some trades

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[quote=skinzfan88;664955]Sorry.. I realized that after I wrote it.. As u can see I'm a rookie..[/quote]
no big deal man, don't let anyone here discourage you from posting (unless you want to do a search of "redskins202" to see what to avoid haha)

welcome to the warpath!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;665034]I am just curious, this being an uncapped year, and all the stuff with that; not including the draft how many total quality Free Agents does everyone think we will bring in, regardless of position. More than most of the league, on par with most of the league, or fewer than the rest of the league.[/quote]
well FA starts soon, way before they get to see the players actually run through plays..

I'd assume that haslett knows what he wants to do as far as the D goes and I suspect that it's heavily 3-4, the way he keeps talking about it.. then says "we'll.. I mean if we" in regards to it, having talks with players explaining that they'll enjoy it, etc

I assume that we'll bring in a pretty fair amount of FA prospects and just work on cutting them as need be it, but that'll be later on... as far as initial splash when it starts? who knows? I mean they're going through tape, and can figure on mechanics and certain plays how some of our guys will do at 3-4, etc but they haven't seen it much yet.. I'm assuming that they'll want to see some of our guys running drills on it first, but who knows

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[quote=CultBrennan59;665039][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/19/2010-free-agent-quarterback-class-has-a-surprise-entry/"]2010 free agent quarterback class has a surprise entry | ProFootballTalk.com[/URL]

chances he comes out of retirement and to DC are slim but just thought I'd throw this out there.[/quote]
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/17/plummer-takes-a-few-jabs-at-shanahan/]Plummer takes a few jabs at Shanahan | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

"Hey, you know what, if I saw the man I'd go shake his hand," Plummer said. "Geez, he gave me a chance to put a stamp on my career of a winner. . . . I have to live with myself, he's gotta live with himself down the road. So, you know, I don't have hard feelings and I don't hold grudges. He got his due there. I think it was a year past due, he should have been gone a year before, and I've already said all that stuff . . . . He'll find himself coaching somewhere again and, you know, cutting some other quarterback for another young kid."

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Not that I'm suggesting bringing Little here.

Leonard Little's long tenure with Rams could end

Posted by Mike Florio on February 20, 2010 3:43 PM ET
Defensive end Leonard Little has played in St. Louis since 1998; he's the last remaining member of the Super Bowl XXXIV-winning team.

In 13 days, however, Leonard officially will hit the open market, possibly ending his 12-year tenure with the team.

[B]Redskins defensive coordinator Jim Haslett reportedly believes that Little could still generate double-digit sacks, so if he doesn't stay in St. Louis, Little might get a chance somewhere else.[/B]

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[quote=SmootSmack;665056]So much is going to depend on if we can pull off some trades[/quote]

Trades?! Trades?!? I don't like the sound of that. Well, before I jump to conclusions, what trades are you thinking about? Carlos Rogers or Jason Campbell for a 2nd rounder? Chris Horton for a 4th? Those are about the only ones I think I'd be ok with. Anything that involves us trading one of our draft picks for a veteran should be off the table.

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[quote=tryfuhl;665067][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/17/plummer-takes-a-few-jabs-at-shanahan/"]Plummer takes a few jabs at Shanahan | ProFootballTalk.com[/URL]

"Hey, you know what, if I saw the man I'd go shake his hand," Plummer said. "Geez, he gave me a chance to put a stamp on my career of a winner. . . . I have to live with myself, he's gotta live with himself down the road. So, you know, I don't have hard feelings and I don't hold grudges. He got his due there. I think it was a year past due, he should have been gone a year before, and I've already said all that stuff . . . . [B]He'll find himself coaching somewhere again and, you know, cutting some other quarterback for another young kid."[/B] [/quote]

Nah... no hard feelings there at all.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;665092]Not that I'm suggesting bringing Little here.

Leonard Little's long tenure with Rams could end

Posted by Mike Florio on February 20, 2010 3:43 PM ET
Defensive end Leonard Little has played in St. Louis since 1998; he's the last remaining member of the Super Bowl XXXIV-winning team.

In 13 days, however, Leonard officially will hit the open market, possibly ending his 12-year tenure with the team.

[B]Redskins defensive coordinator Jim Haslett reportedly believes that Little could still generate double-digit sacks, so if he doesn't stay in St. Louis, Little might get a chance somewhere else.[/B][/quote]

[url=http://www.globe-democrat.com/news/2010/feb/17/rams-say-no-decision-has-been-made-marc-bulgers-st/]Rams say no decision has been made on Marc Bulger's status | St. Louis Globe-Democrat[/url]

[quote]The Redskins have denied they have an interest in Rams defensive end Leonard Little, who will become an unrestricted free agent March 5. Since Little is officially under contract until midnight March 4, any comments about a team’s interest could be considered tampering.


The Rams haven’t ruled out bringing Little back, and team officials will meet with Little’s agent next week in Indianapolis.
[/quote]

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I'm sure teams are going to cut good players with inflated contracts to take advantage of the uncapped year. Yeah they'll have to pay the contracts but teams like the Skins won't have to pay ARE (not saying he's good) 8 million for the next 5 years when the cap is put back into play.

We're going to be players as always.

Mawae was just cut. Yeah he's ancient (39) but he's still playing at a high level and he was the heart-beat of the line that paved the way for Chris "the Freak" Johnson to have the type of season he had.

I'd rather draft an OT at 4 (or trade back and re-stock picks and then draft an OT) and get an interior linemen like the G/C out of Florida Pouncier (i think that's his name) with our second pick and build our line that way than go with the old-timers and hopefully we do.

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[quote=DIE-NASTY;665242]I'm sure teams are going to cut good players with inflated contracts to take advantage of the uncapped year. Yeah they'll have to pay the contracts but teams like the Skins won't have to pay ARE (not saying he's good) 8 million for the next 5 years when the cap is put back into play.

We're going to be players as always.

Mawae was just cut. Yeah he's ancient (39) but he's still playing at a high level and he was the heart-beat of the line that paved the way for Chris "the Freak" Johnson to have the type of season he had.

[B]I'd rather draft an OT at 4 (or trade back and re-stock picks and then draft an OT) and get an interior linemen like the G/C out of Florida Pouncier (i think that's his name) with our second pick and build our line that way than go with the old-timers and hopefully we do.[/B][/quote]

In principle I agree. But we have so much work to do on the OL that we may need to get a geriatric fill-in or two for a year or two. This mess of an OL will not get fixed over night.

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[quote=Lotus;665261]In principle I agree. But we have so much work to do on the OL that we may need to get a geriatric fill-in or two for a year or two. This mess of an OL will not get fixed over night.[/quote]

It won't be fixed overnight, but investing on a franchise left tackle is a helluva good way to start. I also hope that we have gotten better at scouting talent and/or get lucky to find the offensive lineman version of Chris Horton.

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i'd rather go with a geriatric Mawae than Ben Hamilton.

I know we're not going to fix everything this year but it'd be nice if we could pick up a couple building blocks with our first few picks to rebuild our line unless we get an insane value at NO.2. (I wouldn't mind if we picked Clausen or Bradford in the 2nd but I'd prefer to fill other slots.)

ON a side note, why are we so hard pressed to pick a QB this year? We have Campbell for at least one more year and we can draft a QB next year at a lesser contract (assuming they institute a rookie cap). Undergrads are flooding the draft this year so they can cash in before the cap.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;664655]Mea culpa! I did not mention Rex Gosssman.:spank:

I also did not mention Ryan Leaf - - who is an unrestricted free agent so long as he is not in jail on his pending charges. :pffff:

I also did not mention Jeff George - - who is an unrestricted free agent who can bring veteran presence and perspective to the team as a mentor for Jason Campbell, Colt Brennan, Todd Collins and whomever the Skins might draft in April 2010 at a QB. Those folks need to know the Jeff George philosophy:
[INDENT]Leadership is overrated. :Flush: [/INDENT][/quote]

Should have mentioned Grossman :)

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[quote=SmootSmack;675198]Should have mentioned Grossman :)[/quote]

hahaha

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[URL="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/03/eagles-cut-former-pro-bowl-ol-shawn-andrews/1"]Eagles cut former Pro Bowl OL Shawn Andrews - The Huddle: Football News from the NFL - USATODAY.com[/URL]

Shawn Andrews anyone? I would take a chance. But i also wanted to get Richie Incognito and even Shane Olivea a year or 2 back. And was all for Mike Williams (mainly because of the feel good story aspect).

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Andrews just can't get healthy, I'd pass

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[quote=Mattyk;675490]Andrews just can't get healthy, I'd pass[/quote]

yeah unlikely to draw a lot of early attention

come later on if he shows he's moving and some team feels lacking, great