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By all means, if the internal evaluation comes back that Landry's problems can't be fixed, we should sign a free safety in free agency. But then the goal, obviously, is to replace Landry. And that should be clear.

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[quote=GTripp0012;667310]It still makes a difference in the way that salary, more than anything else, seems to dictate usage patterns.[B] If you sign a guy at 7 million to play RB, then he's pretty much playing three downs.[/B]

Maybe that's not a bad thing, but Sproles is one of the rare guys in the league who has never run behind zone blocking at any level. Not at K-State, and not with the Chargers. Marty and Norv, independantly, are two of the only offensive minded coaches who have really not embraced zone blocking concepts in any capacity, at least to this point.

Zorn's scheme was primarily zone blocking, but there were some man elements in the week to week gameplan (likely due to Bugel).[/quote]

I guess I wouldn't mind it since we don't know what Portis will be able to do since his concusion. Then there's the fact that we have a guy on the team who is, I'm guessing, making 400K to 500K to pretty much play 4-7 plays the whole game. :) ... Cartwright.

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[quote=GridIron26;667315]A little bit surprising move but...

[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/redskins-make-an-offer-to-dani.html"]Redskins Insider - Redskins make an offer to Daniels[/URL][/quote]

WTF? I know we can't fix everything in one year but can we get rid of the old dead wood and make an attempt to get younger across the board? Daniels is 37y/o. OMG. Wasn't he cut last year and brought back for a one year deal?

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;667205]Is 2 or 3 = 1.5? I don't know what he is worth so I threw some numbers out there. He is viewed as a part time back and we are already paying a runningback 10 million so how much should we really commit to the postion.

If Sproles is looking for Reggie Bush $? If so, pass.[/quote]
You said if he wanted that much you'd pass, so I gave you a lower number.

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Has anyone heard much about us looking to pick up Peppers? I know that our name gets thrown into most the the FA rumors because we are always looking to "make a splash," but it is briefly metioned in the Haynesworth post below.

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/albert-haynesworth/haynesworth-is-the-key-in-reds.html#more]Redskins Insider - Haynesworth is the key in Redskins' use of 3-4 defense[/url]

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[quote=johno;667441]Has anyone heard much about us looking to pick up Peppers? I know that our name gets thrown into most the the FA rumors because we are always looking to "make a splash," but it is briefly metioned in the Haynesworth post below.

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/albert-haynesworth/haynesworth-is-the-key-in-reds.html#more]Redskins Insider - Haynesworth is the key in Redskins' use of 3-4 defense[/url][/quote]

All I've read is some in the organization think he could get a lot of sacks for us.

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A front 7 with the likes of Haynesworth, Orakpo, and Peppers? Ouch

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Peppers, not interested...take that money, and its gonna be a ton, and spend it on some offense or bank it for the following year.

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^ wrong! Spend the money now in an uncapped year and make the contracts front loaded in order to make them cap friendly in subsequent years.

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^your right, this is the missing piece to put us in the playoffs

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[quote=Chico23231;667490]^your right, this is the missing piece to put us in the playoffs[/quote]

I don't think anyone would say we are one piece away from being a consistent contender, and I am not a big advocate of getting Peppers. But, with that said, there is no salary cap this year, that will be a fact in 4 days, and so there is very little in the way of cap math, even if it comes back, no definitive word has been uttered about how 2010 deals would be dealt with. I really wouldn't be surprised to see more of a luxury tax, rather than a hard cap. The proper question to ask when considering any FA player, and especially the big names, is how likely is it that this guy will play all out game in and game out. Is he a baller, or a guy who just wants to get paid. I don't think we can know that answer, but that's where the FO and HC due diligence comes in.
For Peppers, I think he absolutely just wants to get paid, and I would not bring him in at nearly any salary.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;667495]I don't think anyone would say we are one piece away from being a consistent contender, and I am not a big advocate of getting Peppers. But, with that said, there is no salary cap this year, that will be a fact in 4 days, and so there is very little in the way of cap math, even if it comes back, no definitive word has been uttered about how 2010 deals would be dealt with. I really wouldn't be surprised to see more of a luxury tax, rather than a hard cap. The proper question to ask when considering any FA player, and especially the big names, is how likely is it that this guy will play all out game in and game out. Is he a baller, or a guy who just wants to get paid. I don't think we can know that answer, but that's where the FO and HC due diligence comes in.
For Peppers, I think he absolutely just wants to get paid, and I would not bring him in at nearly any salary.[/quote]

Very well put. I agree.

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[quote=53Fan;667467]All I've read is some in the organization think he could get a lot of sacks for us.[/quote]

Right now, any move that's made by this current front office gets a pass for me. It could be an absolutely insane move, but the fact that we have real football people in charge will get the benefit of the doubt from me for at LEAST a year before I start really questioning moves made after that.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;667495]I don't think anyone would say we are one piece away from being a consistent contender, and I am not a big advocate of getting Peppers. But, with that said, there is no salary cap this year, that will be a fact in 4 days, and so there is very little in the way of cap math, even if it comes back, no definitive word has been uttered about how 2010 deals would be dealt with. I really wouldn't be surprised to see more of a luxury tax, rather than a hard cap. The proper question to ask when considering any FA player, and especially the big names, is how likely is it that this guy will play all out game in and game out. Is he a baller, or a guy who just wants to get paid. I don't think we can know that answer, but that's where the FO and HC due diligence comes in.
For Peppers, I think he absolutely just wants to get paid, and I would not bring him in at nearly any salary.[/quote]

I hear ya, yeah it just has generally disgusted me the last 10 years to see guys get grossly over paid here and not perform. We have quite a history, and we all should know now the definition of insanity.

Peppers signing would still signal that continum. I think he wants to get paid and basically will not live up to the contract. To Malcom's point though, I still feel better about Allen and Shanny making the decision rather than the old. Pass given if we do the signing...but seriously lets get some Olinemen and some young running backs...Hail

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[quote=Chico23231;667478]Peppers, not interested...take that money, and its gonna be a ton, and spend it on some offense or bank it for the following year.[/quote]

Yep cause next year were going to the SB. ;)

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[quote=Chico23231;667522]I hear ya, yeah it just has generally disgusted me the last 10 years to see guys get grossly over paid here and not perform. We have quite a history, and we all should know now the definition of insanity.

Peppers signing would still signal that continum. I think he wants to get paid and basically will not live up to the contract. To Malcom's point though, I still feel better about Allen and Shanny making the decision rather than the old. Pass given if we do the signing...but seriously lets get some Olinemen and some young running backs...Hail[/quote]
Still overpaying only really hurts in a salary cap environment, so even if we were to pay out a lot for Peppers, it's not the same thing, because we aren't by design limiting our other options. Now it should be more about getting the right combination of talent and building a TEAM, regardless of big or small price tag. So if Peppers comes with a high price, he still has to know that he is under the same accountability to the DC, the HC, and the Team as any other player. If not, than that will be the same old same old.

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;667314][URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4954227"]Source: Arizona Cardinals will release Antrel Rolle this week - ESPN[/URL]

Rolle will be a free agent he and Landry would make a nice tandem.[/quote]


WHAT? Landry is terrible! We would trade him but we couldn't even get a 4th for him. He wouldn't start on half the teams in the league!!!!


I don't that signing him alone would add up to many more victories but I wouldn't be upset with it.

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Landry wouldn't start on half the teams in the league? We tried to trade him and no one would give us a 4th round pick for him?

I find all of that hard to believe.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;666936]I think the days of us paying everybody big bucks are over. (I hope they are.)[/quote]

You and me both.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;667580]Landry wouldn't start on half the teams in the league? We tried to trade him and no one would give us a 4th round pick for him?

I find all of that hard to believe.[/quote]

I know. A fourth is a whole lot better than a ham sandwich.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;667582]You and me both.[/quote]

Rolle at Free Safety, and Landry at SS. I like that idea. I think Rolle would understand what it would mean to play the Free spot in DC... Sean and Antrel were apparently very close friends.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;667571]WHAT? Landry is terrible! We would trade him but we couldn't even get a 4th for him. He wouldn't start on half the teams in the league!!!!


I don't that signing him alone would add up to many more victories but I wouldn't be upset with it.[/quote]
Wait, I am confused, and think you are being sarcastic here because in another thread you said this:
[URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/35269-time-to-build-an-offensive-line-10.html#post666375"]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/35269-time-to-build-an-offensive-line-10.html#post666375[/URL]
[quote]Sounds great, Vinny! I think that improving the current Super Bowl Champion and a conference opponent is a great idea. Let's throw in a 2nd and 6th too so they don't shop around...

This Laron Landry bashing is officially in the retarded stage.

Someone give me one team that he wouldn't start immediately on. In fact he would probably be the starting FS or SS on almost every team in the league.[/quote]

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[quote=diehardskin2982;667584]Rolle at Free Safety, and Landry at SS. I like that idea. I think Rolle would understand what it would mean to play the Free spot in DC... Sean and Antrel were apparently very close friends.[/quote]

He'd like to have you believe that, but judging by some of his conjectures about what happened to ST in the days right after his death, it leads me to believe that they weren't that close at all.

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Has anyone heard if we are going to sign Levi Jones. I cant immagine that we wont, with nobody available in free agency.

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Well, the Saints have tendered Jahri Evans....

[url=http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2010/03/new_orleans_saints_make_qualif_2.html]New Orleans Saints make qualifying offers to restricted free agents Jahri Evans and Mike Bell | - NOLA.com[/url]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;667585]Wait, I am confused, and think you are being sarcastic here because in another thread you said this:
[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/35269-time-to-build-an-offensive-line-10.html#post666375[/URL][/quote]


Sorry, I was being sarcastic because some of the things that I have read in these forums portray Landry as barely worth a roster spot.

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^ Doggone to Jahri Evans' getting tendered.

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[quote=Lotus;667746]^ Doggone to Jahri Evans' getting tendered.[/quote]

You sound surprised. I mean would you let the best guard in the league hit the open market? Especiallly after you're hand cuffed by the uncapped free agency rules for playoff teams, or at least teams that got past round 1.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;667782]You sound surprised. I mean would you let the best guard in the league hit the open market? Especiallly after you're hand cuffed by the uncapped free agency rules for playoff teams, or at least teams that got past round 1.[/quote]

No, not at all surprised. Just...doggone it. He would have looked good in B&G.

I also won't be surprised if the Pats retain Nick Kaczur but I still will say, "Doggone."

I'm holding my hopes for the Nick Mangold-for-Reed Doughty trade.

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[quote=Lotus;667786]No, not at all surprised. Just...doggone it. He would have looked good in B&G.

I also won't be surprised if the Pats retain Nick Kaczur but I still will say, "Doggone."

I'm holding my hopes for the Nick Mangold-for-Reed Doughty trade.[/quote]

Yeah, I hear you. My trade Colt Brennan for Tom Brady trade is still pending.

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Just remember about these linemen being tendered by the Saints, they don't plan on keeping all of them. And Williams would sure like to have a safety he's comfortable with back there (as long as they're not keeping Sharper) so...

Anyhow, rumors of a McNabb to San Fran deal. I'm not buying it

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Why not go after Peppers ... last time I checked the guy is a BEAST ... it's going to be uncapped .. Jack kent Cooke didn't have a CAP and we WON ... HTTR

Sign Peppers and Dansby .. I want to see them both in HD @ Fed Ex this fall

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I'd still love to see Mike Bell here and Sproles...

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I think Chris Wilson will thrive as a olb in a 3-4

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[quote=CultBrennan59;667800]I'd still love to see Mike Bell here and Sproles...[/quote]

Mike Bell has been tendered as well. I personally would have wanted Evans.

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[quote=Ruhskins;667807]Mike Bell has been tendered as well. I personally would have wanted Evans.[/quote]

Yes, he's been tendered but if we sign him for that much or more we can get him and don't have to give up a pick for him, since he was an undrafted player and they tendered him for the lowest tender, we don't have to give up anything for him if we want him. Yes, believe thats how this works.

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[quote=GTripp0012;666892]My free agency spreadsheet is almost done, but in the meantime, I thought I'd throw up a "best available" players cheat sheet. Available implies a UFA who does not wear a franchise tag.

1. Julius Peppers, DE, Age 30, Rating 92
2. Ben Watson, TE, Age 29, Rating 91
3. Gary Brackett, LB, Age 30, Rating 91
4. Kevin Walter, WR, Age 29, Rating 89
5. Bobbie Williams, G, Age 33, Rating 88
6. Darren Sproles, RB, Age 27, Rating 88
7. Chad Pennington, QB, Age 34, Rating 87
8. Aaron Kampman, DE, Age 30, Rating 86
9. Nate Burleson, WR, Age 29, Rating 86
10. Keith Bulluck, LB, Age 33, Rating 86

I'm going to use this thread to throw up all the "player x released" news links, which will leave it all in one place to add to the FA spreadsheets.[/quote]

GTripp, if you have finished your spreadsheet, can you post the best available OL, with age, and rating? Would like to see what names are even out there on the OLine side of the field.

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Does anyone know the deadline for actually placing tenders? Any reason the Skins haven't actually tendered anyone? (yes I am impatient, thanks)

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Deadline is Thursday

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;667880]Does anyone know the deadline for actually placing tenders? Any reason the Skins haven't actually tendered anyone? (yes I am impatient, thanks)[/quote]

They have till Thursday. Why throw it out too soon? Let all the other teams wonder what we are going to do. As far as our players I only saw a handfull I'd tender or resign. Obviously JC being the big one.

Maybe they are in talks with another team about a trade. If the other team doesn't come back with a yeah we want the player we can tender them.