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[quote=Schneed10;679117]This one's a little out of the box, but Rex Grossman. I don't expect him to beat Campbell for a starting job, but as he gets older and matures I think he's naturally going to gravitate towards making smarter decisions. I bet he pushes Campbell in the preseason.[/quote]

Do you see Shanny and Co letting JC walk after this year and starting Grossman?

My guess is Shanny will bench Jason at some point this season. When Jason gets out of rhythm he's almost totally ineffective. Shanny has nothing invested in him and won't hesitate for a second to give the "next best" guy a shot. Right now no way to tell if that's Rex or Colt.

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[quote=saden1;679115]LaRon doesn't avoid contact, he avoids tackling. It is as if tackling is beneath him.[/quote]

Clever.

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Laron only avoids tackling because if he performs too well they'll ask him to more autograph signing events.

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[quote=tryfuhl;679174]Laron only avoids tackling because if he performs too well they'll ask him to more autograph signing events.[/quote]

You're forgiven for the Duke comment.

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I pick Big Mike Williams as my most improved! Does he count as two guys?!

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[quote=Dirtbag359;679177]You're forgiven for the Duke comment.[/quote]

You catch the game? :D

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[quote=tryfuhl;679272]You catch the game? :D[/quote]

Nope, I just enjoyed the Landry-Autograph Session joke

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Biggest room for improvement?

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/offensive-line/shanahan-on-heyer-untapped-abi.html]Redskins Insider - Shanahan on Heyer: Untapped ability but hard work is needed[/url]

Swinging screen door/matador OL need more than simply improvement. They need a pink slip.

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1. Thomas-I think he's got Brandon Marshall potential, he just needs to put it all together. He seems like he's going at 100 MPH sometimes and gets out of control. He showed flashes last year and hopefully with McCardell's help and Shanny putting him in position to make plays, he breaks out in '10.
2. Kelly-Use him in situations that will maximize his abilities. That's the charge for Mike and Kyle and I think they will step up to that challenge.
3. Mike Williams-Shanahan loves him (as noted by the 3 year extension) and I think he could be a Leonard Davis type story-1st round bust tackle to Pro Bowl contender at G.
4. Orakpo for obvious reasons but it's almost cheating to put him. He was going to improve anyway.
5. Alridge-Only because I expect him to be the 3rd down back and on the kickoff return team. He's going to get his shot this year.

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[quote=backrow;679318]Biggest room for improvement?

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/offensive-line/shanahan-on-heyer-untapped-abi.html]Redskins Insider - Shanahan on Heyer: Untapped ability but hard work is needed[/url]

Swinging screen door/matador OL need more than simply improvement. They need a pink slip.[/quote]

The first comment below the article sums up the situation. We have no other option at this point. Heyer is garbage and needs to be dumped. When Shanny takes out the garbage I hope he includes that waste of a draft pick Rienhart as well.

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No point in cutting guys like Heyer or Rinehart unless there are betters players out there. With only 5 draft picks it's going to be tough to replace everyone. Perhaps there will be some UDFA's or some training camp cuts worth looking at, but otherwise the best thing we can hope for is these guys to show some improvement under Shanahan.

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^Ill be extremely surprised to see both make the team, trash will be taken out end of training camp cause your right really not alot of options which what the article basically states. But being part of the worst Oline in the league last year doesnt say too much about their ability. Nothing wrong with hope

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[quote=Chico23231;679339]The first comment below the article sums up the situation. We have no other option at this point. Heyer is garbage and needs to be dumped. When Shanny takes out the garbage I hope he includes that waste of a draft pick Rienhart as well.[/quote]

I don't get why Rinehart is considered a waste. he could wind up being one, but as of right now, he's only played two years. Rinehart was picked at the bottom of the third round. i dont think many guards picked in that spot are expected to be bonafide starters in their first two years. it takes some players time to develop. Shanahan was supposedly impressed after watching some of his film. If Rinehart can become a decent backup by the end of this year, then i'll consider the pick a success. if he can't even be a good backup by the end of NEXT year, then i'll consider him a bust.

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Id consider him a bust cause he hasnt done sh*t. Sure I would like him to turn it around, but these are the same conversations we had about the Oline LAST year around this time. Id say lets move on from the worst Oline in the league.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;679352]I don't get why Rinehart is considered a waste. he could wind up being one, but as of right now, he's only played two years. Rinehart was picked at the bottom of the third round. i dont think many guards picked in that spot are expected to be bonafide starters in their first two years. it takes some players time to develop. Shanahan was supposedly impressed after watching some of his film. If Rinehart can become a decent backup by the end of this year, then i'll consider the pick a success. if he can't even be a good backup by the end of NEXT year, then i'll consider him a bust.[/quote]

He is going to have to beat out Big Mike the Mauler!!!

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Jason Campbell - i understand and agree with the sentiment that JC needs a better offensive line for him to improve.

with that said, we have gotten to watch him for 3 years now and, believe it or not, there have been plays were the o line holds, a receiver is open enough yet JC doesnt make the proper read or accurate enough throw.

i think a qbs ability to properly read defenses pre-snap, identify the blitz, read coverage and know where to go with the ball is they most important mental aspect of quarterbacking. most of his college scouting reports said he needed to be coached up on this aspect.

i dont think he has had a coach that was able to present JC with the proper preparation and teaching for him to grow in this regard.

i feel really good about what shanny and kyle and lefeur (sp?) bring to the table in regards to translating what they want from him in a manner JC can comprehend and utilize. maybe, with actual coaching, he can become an actual qb.

i heard him talking the other day and he said he has to unlearn what zorn taught him about staying low b/c our new coaches want him standing tall in the pocket.

he said when players asked him why he threw a 3 yd pass on 3rd and 9, he said that was the play that was called and he couldnt audible/change it.

while gibbs was a great coach, i dont think he updated his qb manual form the 80's where you could excel with a handoff, handoff, PA pass qb.

i dont think zorn was necessarily bad for his development in a qb teaching aspect, but i do think zorn greatly handcuffed JC and our offense with his play calling.

and the fact that are play calling was always late and odd, didnt give JC enough time to step up to the line and survey things. it seemed we always started lining up with 10-15 seconds left on the play clock, JC would get under center with 8 seconds left, not much time to change speeds on when you hike the ball or allow JC time to let what he is seeing from the defense sink in. it always seemed like JC would get under center, hike the ball 2 seconds later.

i think alot of these problems are gone and JC is set to improve.

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[quote=Chico23231;679339]The first comment below the article sums up the situation. We have no other option at this point. Heyer is garbage and needs to be dumped. When Shanny takes out the garbage I hope he includes that waste of a draft pick Rienhart as well.[/quote]

I definitely understand the argument that the line was so horrid last year that everyone needs replacing. That said, we should hang onto Rinehart and Heyer until we have both starters and reserves who are better than them in place. That is, they can still serve depth purposes, even if we may not want them to start.

However, I think Rinehart will really pick it up this year and actually become a starter.

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Devin Thomas is going to have a killer season. Yeah, that's right, I said Devin Thomas.

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Too early to write off Rino, remember just as he got the starting job back last year that's when he got hurt. The guy has some talent to work with. I feel much better about the chances of him developing into a decent OL than Heyer.

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[quote=Lotus;679367]I definitely understand the argument that the line was so horrid last year that everyone needs replacing. That said, we should hang onto Rinehart and Heyer until we have both starters and reserves who are better than them in place. That is, they can still serve depth purposes, even if we may not want them to start.

However, I think Rinehart will really pick it up this year and actually become a starter.[/quote]

Over Artis Hicks and Mike Williams? I just dont see that...but hey Im for anybody stepping up there game.

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[quote=Chico23231;679373]Over Artis Hicks and Mike Williams? I just dont see that...but hey Im for anybody stepping up there game.[/quote]

Hicks was a backup before so it is not like he is a world-beater. A similar argument can be made for Williams. So, yeah, Rino has a chance.

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If I were to give the edge to any of these guys to be our starting RG, it'd be Rino or Williams. If they all perform similarly, it makes sense to have hicks as the primary backup at both tackle and guard positions. that way, there'd be far less shuffling of the line if a starter got hurt.

At this point, i'm fairly satisfied with the "depth" we have on our offensive line. we just need two starting tackles. there's not a starting-caliber tackle on the team, although Hicks may end up starting RT if we only come out of hte draft with a LT.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;679413]If I were to give the edge to any of these guys to be our starting RG, it'd be Rino or Williams. If they all perform similarly, it makes sense to have hicks as the primary backup at both tackle and guard positions. that way, there'd be far less shuffling of the line if a starter got hurt.

At this point, i'm fairly satisfied with the "depth" we have on our offensive line. we just need two starting tackles. there's not a starting-caliber tackle on the team, although Hicks may end up starting RT if we only come out of hte draft with a LT.[/quote]

This.

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I think the entire offensive line will be better, so I will say those 5 positions.
Players: Heyer, Rinehart, Rabach, Dockery, ? , Williams

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God I hope we can get rid of Heyer somehow.....