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Here's an interesting article that was written at the end of January:

[url=http://liveballsports.com/2010/01/28/bradford-vs-clausen-and-why-mccoy-is-still-tops-in-this-draft-class/]Bradford vs. Clausen, and why McCoy is still tops in this draft class « LiveBall Sports[/url]

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[quote=mredskins;679532]If it is true and he becomes the next Manning it would be such Redskin luck to be so close to drafting someone like him but yet miss out.[/quote]

Or he (miraculously) falls to us, he starts in the pre-season and gets knocked out. Either one could happen, it just shows how terrible our FO was that we can't even capitalize on a top 5 pick.

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[quote=SmootSmack;679533]It was pretty awesome...but it is just a pro day.[/quote]

Yeah but if anyone ever needed a strong pro day, it was Bradford. Now there are no questions regarding his arm strength and velocity, most are saying his arm looks even stronger now.

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[quote=GTripp0012;679531]So, he's worth anything that's not really all that valuable to our future, essentially?[/quote]

Exactly.

They are reporting that he went 62 of 63.

Get him.

JC, Carter, Landry, a TE....whatever we can work out, without giving up more picks.

That is just insane.

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[quote=Mattyk;679540]Yeah but if anyone ever needed a strong pro day, it was Bradford. Now there are no questions regarding his arm strength and velocity, most are saying his arm looks even stronger now.[/quote]

No doubt. He's been throwing strongly for several weeks now, but people keep insisting his shoulder is going to fall off

He was 49 of 50. Though the one incompletion was a drop. In fairness though there was another pass that should have been incomplete but the WR made a good adjustment on the ball.

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[quote=Mattyk;679540]Yeah but if anyone ever needed a strong pro day, it was Bradford. Now there are no questions regarding his arm strength and velocity, most are saying his arm looks even stronger now.[/quote]

Actually I'd say Tebows pro day was the most important, at least for the QB's but it seems like Bradford was a close second.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;679538]Here's an interesting article that was written at the end of January:

[URL="http://liveballsports.com/2010/01/28/bradford-vs-clausen-and-why-mccoy-is-still-tops-in-this-draft-class/"]Bradford vs. Clausen, and why McCoy is still tops in this draft class « LiveBall Sports[/URL][/quote]That was written by GTripp.

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[url=http://blogs.nfl.com/category/pro-days/]NFL.com Blogs Pro Days «[/url]

Now everyone is all over this kid, when just 2 month's ago most folks were saying to stay away from sam.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;679571][url=http://blogs.nfl.com/category/pro-days/]NFL.com Blogs Pro Days «[/url]

Now everyone is all over this kid, when just 2 month's ago most folks were saying to stay away from sam.[/quote]

*Sob*, we always want what we can't have. Heres to hoping that Tebow can't beat Bradford in the playoffs in the same manner Florida beat Oklahoma in the national championship.

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I say we do whatever it takes to trade up and get this guy at 1. I seriously doubt the Rams let him go though.

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Sam looked awesome in his workout, without pads and without a 350 DE chasing him and once he lands awkwardly on that shoulder he will be done! I pray the Rams take him at #1, so I don't have to cringe every time his is slammed on that shoulder.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;679573]*Sob*, we always want what we can't have. Heres to hoping that Tebow can't beat Bradford in the playoffs in the same manner Florida beat Oklahoma in the national championship.[/quote]

How does that have anything to do with a better QB? Lol and I am a gators fan but It's not even close man. Tebow will be lucky to ever play QB at a high level in the NFL.

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[quote=murphy196;679575]Sam looked awesome in his workout, without pads and without a 350 DE chasing him and once he lands awkwardly on that shoulder he will be done! I pray the Rams take him at #1, so I don't have to cringe every time his is slammed on that shoulder.[/quote]

When Brees gets hit on his shoulder is he done? LOL That's whta everyone always says until those QB's dominate the league. Then you jump all over them

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[quote=skinsfaninok;679579]When Brees gets hit on his shoulder is he done? LOL That's whta everyone always says until those QB's dominate the league. Then you jump all over them[/quote]

Brees had a different type of injury, a torn Labrum and Bradford had a sprained AC joint which was injured twice in the same season. To me, he's not good enough to risk taking that early. Just because he had a shoulder injury like Brees, doesn't mean he can even sniff Bress' jock strap.

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I'd trade Andre Carter, LaRon Landry, Anthony Montgomery, Jason Campbell and our first for the Rams first overall pick. That's the highest I'm willing to go up for Bradford. (maybe McIntosh can be thrown in, but they'd need to give us a 6th rounder for him too)

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[quote=skinsfaninok;679579]When Brees gets hit on his shoulder is he done? LOL That's whta everyone always says until those QB's dominate the league. Then you jump all over them[/quote]

I agree with you. The shoulder excuse is way overblown. The only thing that will convince people I guess is for Bradford to get drilled and then get right back up. So we'll just have to wait until the summer to see that

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[quote=SmootSmack;679399]Bradford finishes 50 for 50 with some nice deep outs. That beats Snead's 46-50

Ram Bradford[/quote]

Guess we better start deciding if we really want Jimmy Clauskin

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[quote=GTripp0012;679440]Well, I mean, you can't trade up ahead of the Rams, so you'd have to either make them an offer they can't refuse (and I really mean an obvious headscratcher), or you just have to call their bluff.

I personally feel that Bradford is going to benefit greatly from going to one of the weakest divisions, where his contributions can be felt immediately. Whether he ultimately succeeds as a player depends on how well the Rams put talent around him. But they've got a decent foundation there.[/quote]
Rams fall asleep, miss getting pick in on time, we already have trade deal worked out with #2 in this situation. Nevermind that they'll have him signed before the draft.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;679489]T.O.killa realizes that Redskins have not had a QB, since Thiesman.[/quote]

I agree with you but I draw the line with giving up this years 2nd round pick as well. That would leave us with:

1st- Bradford.
3rd- Jarmon.
5th-
7th-

and I guess a hole hell of a lot of UFA's.

I'd prefer:

1st- Bradford
2nd- OT
3rd- Jarmon.
5th-
7th-

and a lot of UFA's. Preferably OL.

I'd give the Rams:

JC
Carter
pick #4
next yrs 1st

and if it came to it maybe another mid to late round pick next yr. Nothing else this yr though.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;679588]I'd trade Andre Carter, LaRon Landry, Anthony Montgomery, Jason Campbell and our first for the Rams first overall pick. That's the highest I'm willing to go up for Bradford. (maybe McIntosh can be thrown in, but they'd need to give us a 6th rounder for him too)[/quote]If you can throw in the ability to expand their roster to 56 players, I think you might have a small chance of getting them to accept that.

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[quote=murphy196;679575]Sam looked awesome in his workout, without pads and without a 350 DE chasing him and once he lands awkwardly on that shoulder he will be done! I pray the Rams take him at #1, so I don't have to cringe every time his is slammed on that shoulder.[/quote]

Yeah cause thats exactly how the Saints felt right? Bradfords shoulder was not as bad as Brees and Brees has held up how many yrs now?

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[quote=tryfuhl;679610]Guess we better start deciding if we really want Jimmy Clauskin[/quote]

Uh, most likely no we can't, Clausen has had a season ending toe injury. I mean thats all we need is to pick Clausen and have him running for his life and get hit once. Bam he's no good to us anymore. ;)

Can't take McCoy either apparently he had a shoulder injury also. :(

Pike apparently suffered two major injuries. Can't take him either.

J.Brown suffered a concussion and ankle injury. Most likely it will re-occur when he get hit in the NFL. Can't take him.

Bulaga has a Thyroid condition that has cost him games in the past. He's out.

I haven't even expored any injuries from draft prospects while in high school.

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we need this guy

[IMG]http://www.freemooviesonline.com/magazine/images/stories/cinema/actors/john-travolta/travolta2.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=tryfuhl;679612][B]Rams fall asleep, miss getting pick in on time[/B], we already have trade deal worked out with #2 in this situation. Nevermind that they'll have him signed before the draft.[/quote]

It might work if we get Riggo to take the Rams representatives out to a strip club and gets them hammered. ;)

or simply order the whole Rams representatives drinks to be sent over to their table at the draft with crushed Benadryl pills in them. ;)

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[quote=tryfuhl;679638]we need this guy

[IMG]http://www.freemooviesonline.com/magazine/images/stories/cinema/actors/john-travolta/travolta2.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

The good news is he's been in a plastic bubble his whole life which means no injuries and plenty of time to study the play book. LOL.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;679538]Here's an interesting article that was written at the end of January:

[URL="http://liveballsports.com/2010/01/28/bradford-vs-clausen-and-why-mccoy-is-still-tops-in-this-draft-class/"]Bradford vs. Clausen, and why McCoy is still tops in this draft class « LiveBall Sports[/URL][/quote]Hey, I know that guy!

<hat tip SS33>

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Good read. Both Clausen and Bradford have their projected downsides. I'm more optimistic about both of these players today than ever but, we need to get better upfront. If Okung is gone, trade down.

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[quote=SBXVII;679636]Uh, most likely no we can't, Clausen has had a season ending toe injury. I mean thats all we need is to pick Clausen and have him running for his life and get hit once. Bam he's no good to us anymore. ;)

Can't take McCoy either apparently he had a shoulder injury also. :(

Pike apparently suffered two major injuries. Can't take him either.

J.Brown suffered a concussion and ankle injury. Most likely it will re-occur when he get hit in the NFL. Can't take him.

Bulaga has a Thyroid condition that has cost him games in the past. He's out.

I haven't even expored any injuries from draft prospects while in high school.[/quote]

Oh well i guess well have to go Okung!

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This could be our only chance left to gwt Bradford...

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/29/talk-mounts-that-bradford-wont-sign-a-pre-draft-contract/]Talk mounts that Bradford won't sign a pre-draft contract | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

Talk mounts that Bradford won't sign a pre-draft contract
Posted by Mike Florio on March 29, 2010 7:55 PM ET
Amid reports that the Rams are talking to the agents for multiple players who could be the first overall pick in the 2010 draft, there's increasing chatter that, as to one of the players, there may not be much to discuss.

We're hearing from multiple league and media sources that Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford could refuse to sign a pre-draft contract with the Rams.

In the past four drafts, the only top pick not signed in advance of the commencement of the selection process was Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell. He ultimately held out into the regular season.

If Bradford declines to agree to terms before being picked, and if the Rams ultimately don't select him, Bradford would slide to the Redskins at No. 4, at worst. (He also could end up going second or third, if a team that needs a quarterback moves up.) Operating from the four hole, Bradford likely would then attempt to invoke the so-called "quarterback premium" in the hopes of getting more than the first overall pick, just as Matt Ryan did from the third spot two years ago.

If the Rams pick Bradford without a contract in place, the leverage then flips to the player, with the Rams compelled to get the guy signed in the hopes of justifying the pick and turning around a franchise that seems far longer than a decade removed from a Super Bowl win.

We also don't rule out the Rams picking Bradford and then attempting to trade him, like the Chargers did six years ago with Eli Manning.

Either way, Adam Schefter's prediction could end up being wrong -- but not because Bradford won't be regarded as the best player in the draft. The Rams could decide that they won't take Bradford if he makes it clear that he won't sign a contract.

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Celts, that is big news.

We need him to pull an Eli or Elway.

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Celts, thanks for that. T'would be nice to see Bradford at #4.

Maybe Bradford wants to work with the Shanahans and so he will be standoffish in his dealings with the Rams. Just a dreamy thought.

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[quote=SBXVII;679636]Uh, most likely no we can't, Clausen has had a season ending toe injury. I mean thats all we need is to pick Clausen and have him running for his life and get hit once. Bam he's no good to us anymore. ;)

Can't take McCoy either apparently he had a shoulder injury also. :(

Pike apparently suffered two major injuries. Can't take him either.

J.Brown suffered a concussion and ankle injury. Most likely it will re-occur when he get hit in the NFL. Can't take him.

Bulaga has a Thyroid condition that has cost him games in the past. He's out.

I haven't even expored any injuries from draft prospects while in high school.[/quote]

Jevan Snead had the swine flu...and he still played through it!. Ain't no fatal virus gonna keep him down

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Basically what Florio said is that we don't know anything

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John Clayton brought this contract thing up the other day. He thinks though, and I tend to agree, that even with the tenuous ownership situation in St. Louis they will still pay above market and ensure that they get Bradford. The only thing that could keep it from happening is that apparently Spags is still not totally bought into the idea. But I think he gets overruled.

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I read J. Reids RI post this morning about the Eli trade. Four picks including 2 first rounders! If the Rams are trying to get that, I don't see the new Allen regime going for it.

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[quote=freddyg12;679761]I read J. Reids RI post this morning about the Eli trade. Four picks including 2 first rounders! If the Rams are trying to get that, I don't see the new Allen regime going for it.[/quote]

Yeah neither do I. The cost to move up is very steep, unless Shanahan is convinced that Bradford is the 2nd coming of Elway, I just don't see it happening.

I'm betting Shanahan is pretty confident in his ability to coach up a 2nd rounder into a quality QB in his system.

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Pro days are the most overrated thing during the scouting process. JaMarcus Russsell had a great pro day. It really doesn't mean anything cause QB's are throwing against air w/out a rush, w/out an NFL defensive coordinator switching up coverages after the ball is snapped. Any professional QB ( including back ups) should look good in a pro day atmosphere. They should at least make it a 7 on 7 type of thing.

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[quote=freddyg12;679761]I read J. Reids RI post this morning about the Eli trade. Four picks including 2 first rounders! If the Rams are trying to get that, I don't see the new Allen regime going for it.[/quote]

If Shanny views him as a franchise QB then that price is not to high.

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[quote=SmootSmack;679749]John Clayton brought this contract thing up the other day. He thinks though, and I tend to agree, that even with the tenuous ownership situation in St. Louis they will still pay above market and ensure that they get Bradford. [B]The only thing that could keep it from happening is that apparently Spags is still not totally bought into the idea.[/B] But I think he gets overruled.[/quote]Spags isn't sold knowing how bad they need a QB??? Re-enforces my points on Bradford. Hopefully Spags does get overruled and the Rams overpay for a player who will not meet up to the hype/expectations. We need to draft Clausen at #4 and be done with it.

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I think the thing with Spags is he knows he needs to win now to save his job. Tough to do with a rookie QB in there.