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[quote=Trample the Elderly;685823]There have always been two wings to the Republican Party. The liberal war-mongering gunboat progressive wing of Teddy Roosevelt, and the "if it's not in the Constitution we don't do it" wing of Taft. I'm not here to carry water for the Republicans. They've been in the pockets of the bankers since the progressive era, but to say that they're the party of racist and the K club is a gross and uneducated twist on history.[/quote]

To say that I said the Republicans were the party of racists is an example of social engineering the history of a warpath post. Quote my post where I said the Republicans were the party of racists. Please do.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;685830]To say that I said the Republicans were the party of racists is an example of social engineering the history of a warpath post. [B]Quote my post where I said the Republicans were the party of racists[/B]. Please do.[/quote]

I agree with the tax criticism of conservatives, but they sleep with rats and wind up with KKK fleas.

There you go. There is only one party that the majority of America regard as conservative, and that's the Republicans. Don't try to beat around the bush. I don't remember George Wallace giving any speeches at the tea parties I've been to? You're as dumb as the day is long.

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Republicans are not conservatives according to you.

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Where is illegal immigration covered in the Constitution?

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;685827]I'm calling BS to your BS (I learned that for the warpath some where). There are racists in the Republican party and Democratic party too. I was speaking of the consevative party, and their racist wing that turns me off. They could get alot more votes if they put them yahoos in check. If I go to a TEA party and hear the N word, result = I don't care what kinda good point you making put them yahoos in check, and win a freaking election and reduce taxes.[/quote]

I don't even believe that the N word was used dat by someone with the tea party and they made that up. Funny how they had 1000's of cameras in DC that day and they showed those congressmen walking right through the tea party rally (on purpose I would add) but none of the cameras caught any of that on film. Strang how that could happen.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;685843]Republicans are not conservatives according to you.[/quote]

The majority are not. They're fascist, as are the Democrats. What makes your arguments so ridiculous, is that you're regurgating old BS talking points that they themselves put out through their compliant media outlets.

Republicans = The bundle of sticks.

Democrats = The rope and axe.

Together they make a great fascist oligarchy.

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[quote=firstdown;685847]I don't even believe that the N word was used dat by someone with the tea party and they made that up. Funny how they had 1000's of cameras in DC that day and they showed those congressmen walking right through the tea party rally (on purpose I would add) but none of the cameras caught any of that on film. Strang how that could happen.[/quote]

Glad you say that, it was caught on camera by the protesters at the immigration rally. Put to you those people don't matter. They don't pay taxes accopording to you.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;685848]The majority are not. They're fascist, as are the Democrats. What makes your arguments so ridiculous, is that you're regurgating old BS talking points that they themselves put out through their compliant media outlets.

Republicans = The bundle of sticks.

Democrats = The rope and axe.

Together they make a great fascist oligarchy.[/quote]


So I am not talking about the Republicans, I am talking about conservatives not facists.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;685844]Where is illegal immigration covered in the Constitution?[/quote]

[url=http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/freedom/constitution/text.html]Full Text of the Constitution of the United States | Freedom Documents[/url]

Specifically:
Article 1, Section 8:
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

and

Article 1, Section 9:
The Migration ... of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the 1808, ....

Keep in mind that Section 9 states that after 1808 Congress not just the States had the legal standing to set Immigration laws. I don't think it has ever been argued that a Nation can't regulate it's borders, that would be a little ridiculous.

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[quote=firstdown;685847]I don't even believe that the N word was used dat by someone with the tea party and they made that up. Funny how they had 1000's of cameras in DC that day and they showed those congressmen walking right through the tea party rally (on purpose I would add) but none of the cameras caught any of that on film. Strang how that could happen.[/quote]

[URL]http://chattahbox.com/images/2010/01/teaparty_robertson_spelling_racist_problem.jpg[/URL]

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;685854]So I am not talking about the Republicans, I am talking about conservatives not facists.[/quote]

What about conservatism / classic liberalism is racist? You do understand that my idea of conservatism is very different than what is portrayed by the media?

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;685851]Glad you say that, it was caught on camera by the protesters at the immigration rally. Put to you those people don't matter. They don't pay taxes accopording to you.[/quote]

Can you please link my post here on immigration and me saying they don't matter. Also it not according to me its according to CNN news that posted the numbers and article.

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[quote=Mattyk;685861][URL]http://chattahbox.com/images/2010/01/teaparty_robertson_spelling_racist_problem.jpg[/URL][/quote]

U don't see no Republicans with signs like that, why they didn't tell him to go home?.

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[quote=Mattyk;685861][URL]http://chattahbox.com/images/2010/01/teaparty_robertson_spelling_racist_problem.jpg[/URL][/quote]

What I saw:

Congress = Slave holders.

Tax Payers = Slaves

I agree, to a point. I wouldn't have used the same word as he did, if I had I would've spelled it right. Firstdown was that you?

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;685864][B]U don't see no [/B]Republicans with signs like that, why they didn't tell him to go home?.[/quote]

You write like Clinton Portis talks, ignorantly.

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[quote=Mattyk;685861][URL]http://chattahbox.com/images/2010/01/teaparty_robertson_spelling_racist_problem.jpg[/URL][/quote]
looks like he taped that on the bottom.. wonder how badly he bastardized it on his first attempt

or if it originally had the e

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;685868]You write like Clinton Portis talks, ignorantly.[/quote]

OK you've done it. Insulting Portis? You just trying to ruffle my feathers? No homo!

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;685866]What I saw:

Congress = Slave holders.

Tax Payers = Slaves

I agree, to a point. I wouldn't have used the same word as he did, if I had I would've spelled it right. Firstdown was that you?[/quote]

No I'm not a racist and with the words he used I'd say he was a racist. Maybe he used the N word thinking it would have a bigger impact on what he was saying but that's not what I got out of it.

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[quote=firstdown;685892]No I'm not a racist and with the words he used I'd say he was a racist. Maybe he used the N word thinking it would have a bigger impact on what he was saying but that's not what I got out of it.[/quote]

Just effing with you. I didn't mean to imply you were a bigot, just not good at spelling.

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Anyway Tramp I know your ideas of conservatism are not like the mainstream media. Small government is a mantra that is being manipulated. Small government aka "let's let the private sector do it". That's where things get tricky: private contractor police and prisons, private contractor army. To me, if they are being paid money out the treasury they are the government. Same thing. I am not talking bout Tramps conservatism I am talking about the conservatism listed on the preapproved media outlets for the peasants.

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[quote=firstdown;685892]No I'm not a racist and with the words he used I'd say he was a racist. Maybe he used the N word thinking it would have a bigger impact on what he was saying but that's not what I got out of it.[/quote]

Yeah he sure seems like a deep thinker concerned about the impact of his message. "Hmmm, what racial slur works best here, I need to choose carefully for maximum impact..." LOL

:doh:

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[quote=Mattyk;685904]Yeah he sure seems like a deep thinker concerned about the impact of his message. "Hmmm, what racial slur works best here, I need to choose carefully for maximum impact..." LOL

:doh:[/quote]
The Michael Richards Theory

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[quote=Mattyk;685904]Yeah he sure seems like a deep thinker concerned about the impact of his message. "Hmmm, what racial slur works best here, I need to choose carefully for maximum impact..." LOL

:doh:[/quote]

Not to mention the fact that it trivializes what slavery is. These conservatives have no clue what slavery is. They kinda know Patrick Henry said the following, but they don't know the man owned a tobacco plantation "manned" with 75 slaves:

[quote]Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death![/quote]

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[quote=firstdown;685721]Yea, for people actually paying taxes.[/quote]

You're missing the point. A good many of the 47% don't pay taxes due to the tax cuts.

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[quote=saden1;685920]Not to mention the fact that it trivializes what slavery is. These conservatives have no clue what slavery is. They kinda know Patrick Henry said the following, but they don't know the man owned a tobacco plantation "manned" with 75 slaves:[/quote]

Yea only good liberals know what slavery is or was.

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[url=http://www.nytimes.com/1860/07/09/news/the-slave-trade-an-original-letter-from-patrick-henry.html?pagewanted=1]THE SLAVE-TRADE. - An Original Letter from Patrick Henry. - Article - NYTimes.com[/url]

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[quote=firstdown;685926]Yea only good liberals know what slavery is or was.[/quote]

I call balls and strikes...and if you crowd the plate I am stilling going to call balls and strikes.

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[quote=saden1;685934]I call balls and strikes...and if you crowd the plate I am stilling going to call balls and strikes.[/quote]

Baseball stinks.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;685935]Baseball stinks.[/quote]
nyjer morgan just tripled, guzman drove him in with a single, and zimmerman just lined a double off of the wall

men on 2nd and 3rd, dunn up to bat

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[QUOTE=tryfuhl;685947]nyjer morgan just tripled, guzman drove him in with a single, and zimmerman just lined a double off of the wall

men on 2nd and 3rd, dunn up to bat[/QUOTE/] thanks for the Patrick Henry.

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Patrick Henry, wasn't he the guy who rode on the horse yelling the british are comming, and then after the british landed we had a light for 1th by land and 2th by sea. That was the clue for the tea baggers to hop on their ships and dump their coffee into the black sea. Then the Brits declared war on us and thats what started WWI. I was pretty good in history but I cannot remember how Japan entered the war. Was it that they shot Lincoln?

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;685811]:lol: Move on over Dmek. There's a new number 1.[/quote]
he is on his own with the illegals issue. its something that you and i probably slightly agree on

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Does this 47% include kids or something to that effect?

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LOL this is hilarious. Basically the poor shouldnt get tax relief, is what first is saying.lol, tax cuts baby, you got em.

First wants trickle down economics.

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[quote=firstdown;685982]Patrick Henry, wasn't he the guy who rode on the horse yelling the british are comming, and then after the british landed we had a light for [B]1th by land and 2th by sea[/B]. That was the clue for the tea baggers to hop on their ships and dump their coffee into the black sea. Then the Brits declared war on us and thats what started WWI. I was pretty good in history but I cannot remember how Japan entered the war. Was it that they shot Lincoln?[/quote]


That grammar, even for you, is pathetic. Do you realize you just wrote "firsth" and "secondth?" You are going to give me an aneurysm.

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i don't understand, are the 47% not receiving a federal deduction from their paycheck or does it mean that when they file for their return, if they owe money, they don't have to pay it ?

how does someone know if you qualify for this(besides making between x amount of dollers) 16% of people making between 50 and 100 k qualify. how can i find out if i'm one of those 16% ?

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;686059]That grammar, even for you, is pathetic. Do you realize you just wrote "firsth" and "secondth?" You are going to give me an aneurysm.[/quote]

he prolly meant IF instead of TH. 1 if by land 2 if by sea.:oink:

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I don't always agree with people like CRedskins, GMscud, and FRPLG, but at the end of the day I do respect their ability to cogently present and argue their respective positions. But Firstdown, you are just a headscratcher. 　You are against tax-cuts now? I really question whether you even understand your own political philosophy.

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[quote=hooskins;686039]LOL this is hilarious. Basically the poor shouldnt get tax relief, is what first is saying.lol, tax cuts baby, you got em.

First wants trickle down economics.[/quote]

Trickle down economics is only applicable in a strip club type business model.

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[quote=djnemo65;686098]I don't always agree with people like CRedskins, GMscud, and FRPLG, but at the end of the day I do respect their ability to cogently present and argue their respective positions. But Firstdown, you are just a headscratcher. 　You are against tax-cuts now? I really question whether you even understand your own political philosophy.[/quote]

Yeah people try to switch up arguements, but when it comes down to the basic principle of are you keeping more of your money vs is the government keeping more of it, most republicans I know identify former idea. I think the switch up of arguements is do to the fact who is in the office of the President or controlling congress at the time. Im sure if these tax breaks were during Bush's time in office, this thread would be started celebrating this fact.

That's why politicals discussions are just such horsesh*t these days. People are so polarized and not will to give credit when due or admitt when their side is wrong...its really quite funny.