Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;690302]I agree with everything you said (except the last sentence, of course).

For the life of me, i don't get why so many her:

1) completely discredit JLC;
2) put 100% faith in everything Schefter reports when there are multiple, obvious reasons why we should question what he says about the skins; and
3) treat everything the FO or coaching staff says as gospel, when misdirection and deception are every team strives for this time of year.

Personally, if JLC or another sports analyst says one thing, and the team is saying the exact opposite (either through official channels or through schefter), it makes me 100% convinced that the report is true and the team is lying. When the reports agree with what the team is saying, its [I]then[/I] that I have no idea what to beleive.[/quote]

Jared LaCanfora was wrong more and more often towards the end of his stint with the post. He left at the right time because Redskins Insider was useless at that point. With all of the turnover, who is left in the building that would feed him anything? His watershed moment was disgracing Gibbs 2.0 and feeding us sorry ass Archuleta's opinions.

People are saying that Schefter should be the reporter that we are leery of, I think it is much more likely that they would use Jared to deliver their propeganda. One, the team does not like him (and rightfully so). Two, who cares if you make him look stupid with bad information, he furthered his career at the expense of your team. Three, they could filter this b.s. out there to see if there is any legitimate market for some of these guys.

Shanahan did not have to say anything about Al's status, yet he was very declarative that they were not trying to trade him. Shanahan did not have to say that but he was pretty blunt. Plus, Haslett said that he has all kinds of plans outside of nose tackle for Al.

I hope we keep Godzilla and make Jared LaCanfora look like an idiot. Screw him.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

If we're comparing JLC and Schefter talking about any of the other 31 teams in the league, i'd agree. but the fact is JLC (along with pretty much everyone else) have cited multiple, unnamed sources saying the skins will move haynesworth. Schefter, who gets his information from shanahan, who has every reason to lie, is the only one saying otherwise.

combine all this with:
1) JLCs report that the skins will do something major this week
2) The skins desire to trade Campbell and the Rams interest in a QB
3) The Rams desire to trade out of the #1 overall pick and willingness to do so on the cheap
4) The skins interest in Adam Carriker and I think we could end up doing this:

Skins trade the #4 overall pick, Jason Campbell, and Albert Haynesworth to St Louis. (St Louis trades down from the #4 overall pick with a team [possibly Philidelphia] that wants to jump ahead of Kansas City and select Eric Berry.)

The Rams send the #1 overall pick and Adam Carriker to the Redskins. The Redskins select Sam Bradford. Donovan McNabb and Rocky McIntosh are traded to the Raiders for Thomas Howard and their 2nd round pick.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

Ugh my head hurts. You sure love those crazy scenarios BHA.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

its two days before the draft and SmootSmack hasn't provided much gossip. i'm bored.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

It doesnt freaking matter. If someone offers a first round pick for McNabb, we might take the deal.

Every player is considered as trade-able if the right offer comes along. There is obviously a bit more with AH, but I think the position thing is a bit blown out of proportion.

Also, he was clearly out of shape and did better in TN when he did his own thing. Why not pay big bucks to get in shape, the way you think is best for you? Doesnt matter what is expected, as long as he shows and is in shape who cares? I have a feeling this is all going to blow over after AH shows up to manditory workouts and is in shape.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

I find that Shanahan's comments about having 2 sacks or more meaning there's something wrong either really stupid, just a complete fabrication, or disinformation.

Unless Shanahan wants to burn bridges with his buddy in Schefter, I don't see him so blatantly lying to Schefter.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

Who knows what to believe about Albert Haynesworth anymore? There have been so many different stories circulating over the last several weeks it would take a genius to unravel them all. His threads are about to eclipse those of LaVar Arrington and I really thought that would take some doing.

Thursday can't come fast enough for me, maybe then some of these stories will begin to subside.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=hooskins;690347]It doesnt freaking matter. If someone offers a first round pick for McNabb, we might take the deal.

Every player is considered as trade-able if the right offer comes along. There is obviously a bit more with AH, but I think the position thing is a bit blown out of proportion.

Also, he was clearly out of shape and did better in TN when he did his own thing. Why not pay big bucks to get in shape, the way you think is best for you? Doesnt matter what is expected, as long as he shows and is in shape who cares? I have a feeling this is all going to blow over after AH shows up to manditory workouts and is in shape.[/quote]

skipping workouts is one thing. skipping a new regime's minicamp where you need to learn how to play a new position is completely different.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;690359]skipping workouts is one thing. skipping a new regime's minicamp where you need to learn how to play a new position is completely different.[/quote]

The good part about the position he plays is that there's not a whole lot to learn he dosen't already know or haven't seen. He knows already how to take on double teams, everything else is commonplace.

I believe the FO is over the skipping mini-camp part because there's nothing that can be done about that, the conceren now is that he's going to hold true to the promise he made to the coaching staff that he would report to mandatory activities in shape and ready to play.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

The stupidity of the AH situation is how Snyderato structured his contract. Here is a guy with questionable character, and within 14 months, he has been paid [B]$30M+ of the $40M that was guaranteed in the deal.[/B] Don't blame AH for being a douchebag. We give him a boatload of money up front, and expect him to be a model citizen after giving him all the carrots ($$$) that could have been used to incentivize him. Snyder is sorely lacking in his understanding human nature. At this point, Haynesworth is a cancer that should be removed.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

DON'T TRADE AH, DON'T TRADE AH, DON'T TRADE AH. We let him go watch our sack total go down.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=SouperMeister;690429]The stupidity of the AH situation is how Snyderato structured his contract. Here is a guy with questionable character, and within 14 months, he has been paid [B]$30M+ of the $40M that was guaranteed in the deal.[/B] Don't blame AH for being a douchebag. We give him a boatload of money up front, and expect him to be a model citizen after giving him all the carrots ($$$) that could have been used to incentivize him. Snyder is sorely lacking in his understanding human nature. [B]At this point, Haynesworth is a cancer that should be removed.[/B][/quote]

Why? Because he spoke out against the terrible coaching staff we had last year? Or because he wants to play a position where he fits the best? Really, are people that blind to want to bitch and whine about a particular player and miss the big picture completely?

Aren't we the same fanbase that bitches about Landry playing out of position? Or bitched about not playing Orakpo as a 4-3 DE? :doh:

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

Adam Schefter on Sirius right now again defended his belief that AH will not be traded. He said 2 separate sources told him that. Also said he's not naive to think that they might not have been blowing smoke, and that if they could trade him they might for the right price. And finally that it's not just that we aren't shopping him, but that the market for him is probably shaky because of the known knocks on AH.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=Ruhskins;690569]Why? Because he spoke out against the terrible coaching staff we had last year? Or because he wants to play a position where he fits the best? Really, are people that blind to want to bitch and whine about a particular player and miss the big picture completely?

[B]Aren't we the same fanbase that bitches about Landry playing out of position? Or bitched about not playing Orakpo as a 4-3 DE?[/B] :doh:[/quote]

Yeah it's OK for them to bitch about it, but if the player does it he's a diva. AH please have a Snicker Bar.

DON'T TRADE AH, DON'T TRADE AH.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=NYCskinfan82;690662] AH please have a Snicker Bar.[/quote]

AH, Don't eat the Snicker bars, Don't eat the Snicker bars, Don't eat the Snicker Bars, Don't eat the Snicker bars!

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

I don't know what some of you are upset about. Haynesworth is working out, and Shanny is planning on killing him in Summer Camp. I laughed when Shanny said "I hope he comes in here and proves me wrong".

Albert...hey Fat Al...better bring your water bottle when you come to camp. You're going to "Paris Island" buddy. Report for Duty in August. (And by the way Al... where do you want to be buried)

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;690576]Adam Schefter on Sirius right now again defended his belief that AH will not be traded. He said 2 separate sources told him that. Also said he's not naive to think that they might not have been blowing smoke, and that if they could trade him they might for the right price. And finally that it's not just that we aren't shopping him, but that the market for him is probably shaky because of the known knocks on AH.[/quote]


Wow, points that actually make sense? I don't want to hear that. Jared LaCanfora and Jason Reid's witchunt against Al is much more interesting...

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=internetcareer;690165]Here is a case where one of the so called "media experts" predicts something. If it happens the guy is a genius. If it doesn't then he CLAIMS that nobody was willing to pay the price.
[/quote]

HERE is what I wrote the other day. Now it is coming true as the media experts are beginning to backtrack and use the old excuse " oh teams are just cautious because of what they're hearing".

yea, and if Bradford doesn't go number 1 then they can say "oh, teams were just worried about his shoulder".

Settle down people. These idiots in the media are payed good money to start rumors and start trouble. Its their life. Its all they do.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=internetcareer;690744]HERE is what I wrote the other day. Now it is coming true as the media experts are beginning to backtrack and use the old excuse " oh teams are just cautious because of what they're hearing".

yea, and if Bradford doesn't go number 1 then they can say "oh, teams were just worried about his shoulder".

Settle down people. These idiots in the media are payed good money to start rumors and start trouble. Its their life. Its all they do.[/quote]

My life feels worthless now....thanks

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=Mattyk;690341]Ugh my head hurts. You sure love those crazy scenarios BHA.[/quote]
It's like a blog speculation gumbo often times haha

Every possibility halfway reported rolled into one

how are they going to trade down with another team.. and still send us the pick? what?

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=internetcareer;690744]HERE is what I wrote the other day. Now it is coming true as the media experts are beginning to backtrack and use the old excuse " oh teams are just cautious because of what they're hearing".

yea, and if Bradford doesn't go number 1 then they can say "oh, teams were just worried about his shoulder".

Settle down people. These idiots in the media are payed good money to start rumors and start trouble. Its their life. Its all they do.[/quote]
It's a good thing that you're here to herd all of us sheep

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=Ruhskins;690569]Why? Because he spoke out against the terrible coaching staff we had last year? Or because he wants to play a position where he fits the best? Really, are people that blind to want to bitch and whine about a particular player and miss the big picture completely?

Aren't we the same fanbase that bitches about Landry playing out of position? Or bitched about not playing Orakpo as a 4-3 DE? :doh:[/quote]

I thought I was the only one that felt that way.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

honestly, haynesworth is a prototypical 3-4 defensive end.. so there is a difference. he has the ability. he just lacks the desire.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

It is sounding more and more likely that Detroit will take Suh. That would eliminate the Haynesworth to the Lions for their 2nd rd pick.
If the Saints make that trade, it would have to be before the Skins select their choice. If Jammal Brown comes here, and Suh/Mcoy are both gone, then we would get Berry.
No trade by 8pm thursday night, my guess is we would select Okung.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;690771]honestly, haynesworth is a prototypical 3-4 defensive end.. so there is a difference. he has the ability. he just lacks the desire.[/quote]
[quote]And, hey, he seems perfectly onboard to play 3-4 DE, based on what he said on the radio today: "End in 3-4 is the same thing as a defensive tackle in the 4-3, I believe."[/quote]

[url=http://blog.redskins.com/2010/03/22/on-albert-haynesworth-and-the-nose-tackle-position/]On Albert Haynesworth And The Nose Tackle Position[/url]

He's fine with DE, he just doesn't want to play NT much.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=Ruhskins;690569]Why? Because he spoke out against the terrible coaching staff we had last year? Or because he wants to play a position where he fits the best? Really, are people that blind to want to bitch and whine about a particular player and miss the big picture completely?

Aren't we the same fanbase that bitches about Landry playing out of position? Or bitched about not playing Orakpo as a 4-3 DE? :doh:[/quote]

Go man. Go.
I am glad to see we agree on this.
I have been staying away from this site before the draft and also avoiding the fictional BS articles about Haynesworth. It pains me to read misquotes or fictional made up shit that Haynesworth supposedly feels or said. It is a huge over reaction of people to call AH a cancer. What a joke.
It is ok to hate that we paid him that much money, but that is not AH's fault.
Would you tell your employer that you are paid too much? Would you not seek to maximize your salary?
AH along with Orakpo will make our defensive front 7 and our pass rush very strong. Lets not fall in to the same Dan Snyder trap of trying to build a superbowl team in one offseason. We have a solid defense. Great. Start with that and we build our offense over time. Don't dismantle our strength for draft picks that may never pan out. Otherwise we back to Cerratto ball.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=Defensewins;690886]Go man. Go.
I am glad to see we agree on this.
I have been staying away from this site before the draft and also avoiding the fictional BS articles about Haynesworth. It pains me to read misquotes or fictional made up shit that Haynesworth supposedly feels or said. It is a huge over reaction of people to call AH a cancer. What a joke.
It is ok to hate that we paid him that much money, but that is not AH's fault.
Would you tell your employer that you are paid too much? Would you not seek to maximize your salary?
AH along with Orakpo will make our defensive front 7 and our pass rush very strong. Lets not fall in to the same Dan Snyder trap of trying to build a superbowl team in one offseason. We have a solid defense. Great. Start with that and we build our offense over time. Don't dismantle our strength for draft picks that may never pan out. Otherwise we back to Cerratto ball.[/quote]



AGREED COMPLETELY. He's not at the voluntary workout, but he's preparing and working hard on his own. It's not like he's being lazy.

Cancer? Sure...this "cancer" doubled our sack total last year. He's worth keeping.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=tryfuhl;690775][url=http://blog.redskins.com/2010/03/22/on-albert-haynesworth-and-the-nose-tackle-position/]On Albert Haynesworth And The Nose Tackle Position[/url]

He's fine with DE, he just doesn't want to play NT much.[/quote]

yeah, but Shanahan has publically named Haynesworth the teams starting NT and said that, while he'll be moved around, he will play NT as well. In my opinion, the skins are obviously trying to isolate Haynesworth. I think the desire for the two parties to split is very mutual.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=Buster;690892]AGREED COMPLETELY. He's not at the voluntary workout, but he's preparing and working hard on his own. It's not like he's being lazy.

Cancer? Sure...this "cancer" doubled our sack total last year. He's worth keeping.[/quote]

who gives a crap about voluntary workouts? the crucial things is he skipped a minicamp. Shanahan's first minicamp. Hasletts first minicamp. Haynesworth first opportunity to learn and get practice in the new defense. THAT's what i'm concerned about. Or what I would be concerned about if I felt Haynesworth were going to be part of the team this year. Its time for people to stop whining and recognize the fact that Haynesworth will be wearing another uniform in 2010.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

I liked what Jason Reid's latest post said. Paraphrasing, "Veterans expressed concern that Haynesworth could become a distraction if he remains on the team".

What? Do they feel the same way about Rocky and JC? Did they feel the same way about Daniels, Springs, Fletcher, Portis and everybody else who has trained on their own in the offseason before?

In theory, couldn't any player on the team become a distraction?

You know why it is a distraction, because every stupid reporter asks every Redskin player and coach 6 questions about Haynesworth every time they meet with them.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

There's so much talk from each side of the fence I don't know how anyone can draw a hard line in the sand and tell who's more right or wrong in all of this. I think both sides have their points.

This is what we know, AH has skipped out on voluntary workouts. Big deal? Not really in the big picture. AH was offered up in a trade to Philly. Big deal? Not really, he's one of the biggest bargaining chips we have and more than anything I think the FO wanted to try to avoid paying that $21M bonus.

What all of this comes down to is AH wasn't hand picked by this staff. And AH didn't sign on to play with this current staff either. Changes happen all the time in this league, one team's treasure is another team's trash, and vice versa. Hopefully in the end things work out best for both sides.

I'd like to see AH stay, and I think all of this will blow over with time. But if a team comes knocking with a trade offer of multiple picks, I wouldn't complain about that either.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;690895]yeah, but Shanahan has publically named Haynesworth the teams starting NT and said that, while he'll be moved around, he will play NT as well. In my opinion, the skins are obviously trying to isolate Haynesworth. I think the desire for the two parties to split is very mutual.[/quote]


Shanahan doesn't coach defense though. While I think it was a jab at Al, it would be idiotic for Shanahan to demand that Al is a NT and disregard Haslett's plans for him.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=Mattyk;690901]There's so much talk from each side of the fence I don't know how anyone can draw a hard line in the sand and tell who's more right or wrong in all of this. I think both sides have their points.

This is what we know, AH has skipped out on voluntary workouts. Big deal? Not really in the big picture. AH was offered up in a trade to Philly. Big deal? Not really, he's one of the biggest bargaining chips we have and more than anything I think the FO wanted to try to avoid paying that $21M bonus.

What all of this comes down to is AH wasn't hand picked by this staff. And AH didn't sign on to play with this current staff either. Changes happen all the time in this league, one team's treasure is another team's trash, and vice versa. Hopefully in the end things work out best for both sides.

I'd like to see AH stay, and I think all of this will blow over with time. But if a team comes knocking with a trade offer of multiple picks, I wouldn't complain about that either.[/quote]
well said

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;690904]Shanahan doesn't coach defense though. While I think it was a jab at Al, it would be idiotic for Shanahan to demand that Al is a NT and disregard Haslett's plans for him.[/quote]

what on earth makes you think Shanahan disregarded Haslett's plans for Haynesworth? In all likelyhood, Shanahan was reinforcing Haslett's plans. And even if your assertation were true, last time i checked, Shanahan is the head coach of this team and Haslett works for Shanahan. Shanahan's also more accomplished. If there were ever a disagreement between the two, i'd side with Shanahan without even needing to knkow Hasletts side of the story.

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;690900]I liked what Jason Reid's latest post said. Paraphrasing, "Veterans expressed concern that Haynesworth could become a distraction if he remains on the team".

What? Do they feel the same way about Rocky and JC? Did they feel the same way about Daniels, Springs, Fletcher, Portis and everybody else who has trained on their own in the offseason before?

In theory, couldn't any player on the team become a distraction?

You know why it is a distraction, because every stupid reporter asks every Redskin player and coach 6 questions about Haynesworth every time they meet with them.[/quote]

again, who cares about voluntary workouts? Haynesworth skipped the teams first minicamp, for a defense in which he's learning a new position. Players "understand" when a teammate holds out due to a contract issue or something like that. But Haynesworth is absent because he and Shanahan are facing off against one another. Regardless of what anyone thinks about the switch to the 3-4, Shanahan is the boss. Haynesworth needs to be like everyone else and do what he's told and show up in camp and practice with his teammates. By not showing up, Haynesworth is alienating himself from the team. If the media weren't reporting this, then they wouldnt be doing thier jobs. Its entirely understandable why his teammates feel its a distraction.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

I agree with BHA, when MS speaks I'm sure he's on the same page with Haslett.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=Mattyk;690901]There's so much talk from each side of the fence I don't know how anyone can draw a hard line in the sand and tell who's more right or wrong in all of this. I think both sides have their points.

This is what we know, AH has skipped out on voluntary workouts. Big deal? Not really in the big picture. AH was offered up in a trade to Philly. Big deal? Not really, he's one of the biggest bargaining chips we have and more than anything I think the FO wanted to try to avoid paying that $21M bonus.

What all of this comes down to is AH wasn't hand picked by this staff. And AH didn't sign on to play with this current staff either. Changes happen all the time in this league, one team's treasure is another team's trash, and vice versa. Hopefully in the end things work out best for both sides.

I'd like to see AH stay, and I think all of this will blow over with time. But if a team comes knocking with a trade offer of multiple picks, I wouldn't complain about that either.[/quote]

I think you summarized everything well, except for the fact that haynesworth has skipped minicamp, not just voluntary workouts. its a big deal (atleast to me, but maybe i'm off on this). haynesworth needs to recognize his place. he just got a 20 million dollar check from Snyder. Not showing up for minicamp is incredibly disrespectful and shows a complete lack of respect for the Redskins front office. he can want to be traded and even try to work something out with the team behind the scenes to expedite things. But theres no garauntee that something can be worked out. in the mean time, Haynesworth needs to swallow his pride and do whatever the redskins ask him to do.

[CRAZY TRADE SCENARIOS=]In my mind, Haynesworth is worth about 700 points on the draft value chart.

From the Redskins perspective, we'd want their 1st round pick, 16th overall, which is worth 1000 points. Fortunately for us, we're looking to unload players and the Titans could use quite a few of them (their biggest needs are DT, DE, OLB, WR, CB and FS. I think we could trade some combination of Haynesworth, Carter, McIntosh, Rogers, and Kelly and get their 1stround pick.

I'm hoping we can send McIntosh and Carter to the Saints for Brown/Bushrod and a pick, so i'm thinking Haynesworth, Rogers, and Kelly for the Titans 1st rounder would be a fair deal.[/CRAZY TRADE SCENARIOS]

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;690909]what on earth makes you think Shanahan disregarded Haslett's plans for Haynesworth? In all likelyhood, Shanahan was reinforcing Haslett's plans. And even if your assertation were true, last time i checked, Shanahan is the head coach of this team and Haslett works for Shanahan. Shanahan's also more accomplished. If there were ever a disagreement between the two, i'd side with Shanahan without even needing to knkow Hasletts side of the story.


I wasn't making an assertion. I was responding to your comment that Shanahan publicly named Al NT. I believe this was a shot at Al more than a directive.

You would side with Shanahan over Haslett on a matter of defensive strategy? That makes zero sense to me. Shanahan has a terrible track record on defensive line talent evaluation, in fact it contributed to him losing his job in Denver.

If Shanahan wants to succeed here, he needs to let the DC call the shots when it comes to defense, especially when it is a DC as accomplished as Haslett.

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;690917]I think you summarized everything well, except for the fact that haynesworth has skipped minicamp, not just voluntary workouts. its a big deal (atleast to me, but maybe i'm off on this). haynesworth needs to recognize his place. he just got a 20 million dollar check from Snyder. Not showing up for minicamp is incredibly disrespectful and shows a complete lack of respect for the Redskins front office. he can want to be traded and even try to work something out with the team behind the scenes to expedite things. But theres no garauntee that something can be worked out. in the mean time, Haynesworth needs to swallow his pride and do whatever the redskins ask him to do.

[CRAZY TRADE SCENARIOS=]In my mind, Haynesworth is worth about 700 points on the draft value chart.

From the Redskins perspective, we'd want their 1st round pick, 16th overall, which is worth 1000 points. Fortunately for us, we're looking to unload players and the Titans could use quite a few of them (their biggest needs are DT, DE, OLB, WR, CB and FS. I think we could trade some combination of Haynesworth, Carter, McIntosh, Rogers, and Kelly and get their 1stround pick.

I'm hoping we can send McIntosh and Carter to the Saints for Brown/Bushrod and a pick, so i'm thinking Haynesworth, Rogers, and Kelly for the Titans 1st rounder would be a fair deal.[/CRAZY TRADE SCENARIOS][/quote]


Haynesworth, Rogers and Kelly for a first round pick...

Are you drunk?

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;690920]Haynesworth, Rogers and Kelly for a first round pick...

Are you drunk?[/quote]

How about Haynesworth alone for both of the Titans 3rd round picks?

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;690922]How about Haynesworth alone for both of the Titans 3rd round picks?[/quote]

You are asking the wrong guy. I want the coaches to see how they can use Al this year and if it doesn't work out, trade him in the offseason.