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[quote=Mattyk;691109]Right, bound to yield a huge crop in a flower box. More than enough to feed the fam I'm sure.[/quote]

You'd surprised how many [I]tomatoes[/I] you can get out of one flower box and a hydroponics system.

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Okay, poor people qualify for the SNAP program (food stamps). A family of 4 with head of household making ~20K (10/hours) can receive ~$600/month. This argument really should just reflect overall health consequences for using any ingredient that either preserves food longer or enhances taste (or both).

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Next regulation to debate:

Pepper.

Why would it?

a.) Makes people sneeze. This could lead to higher healthcare costs.
b.) Often used in controlling unwanted animals. The abuse must stop.




Why won't it?

a.) It's black. Only white seasonings need to be taxes and restricted.
b.) Red is a favorite color of Communists.

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[quote=firstdown;691113]No shit but i bet less then 5% of the people with yeards even grow gardens. I'd say my garden is about 15x15 maybe 15x20 and I have to bring stuff in to give to my employees because there is no way we could eat all that we grow. My wife is going to try her hand a canning some tomatoes this year so we will see how that works out.

Why can't the goverment come up with levels of standards to rate each food. So something low in fat and salt would get a high grade while something high in those would get a lower grade. So then consumers and producers can decide on the products they make or we use. Very easy and it does not force anyone to make their food to goverment standards. I personally think that processed food is high on sondium but I don't want the goverment mandating what can and cannot go on my shelf.[/quote]

Congrats to you and your green thumb. Not everyone has a yard, or if they do not everyone is blessed with suitable soil/growing conditions, and on top of everything not everyone has the time/knowledge to dedicate to a garden.

And at the end of the day how does a garden solve any of the things we're talking about here? Growing up my parents had a garden and even a small vineyard, they were always canning veggies, making wine, etc. But in the end you still have to rely on the grocery store for the majority of your food needs.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;691117]You'd surprised how many [I]tomatoes[/I] you can get out of one flower box and a hydroponics system.[/quote]

I'm well aware.

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[quote=Mattyk;691128]I'm well aware.[/quote]

They have strawberries and hot peppers in those upside-down plants you see on TV too. ;)

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[quote=Mattyk;691125]Congrats to you and your green thumb. Not everyone has a yard, or if they do not everyone is blessed with suitable soil/growing conditions, and on top of everything not everyone has the time/knowledge to dedicate to a garden.

And at the end of the day how does a garden solve any of the things we're talking about here? Growing up my parents had a garden and even a small vineyard, they were always canning veggies, making wine, etc. But in the end you still have to rely on the grocery store for the majority of your food needs.[/quote]

Yea growing a garden is very hard. We till the dirt, dig little holes and plant stuff. Its not really that hard and if someone cannot figure that out then they probably should die before they reproduce.JK Not sure how veggies became a part of the subject I just responded to what someone posted. While off the subject I don't think salt is a big cause of people getting fat either and its more about blood pre.

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I didn't say it was hard to do, but it can be a good amount of work depending on the size when it comes to weeding and watering. And it helps to have some basic knowledge of what you're growing as well.

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[quote=firstdown;691164]Yea growing a garden is very hard. We till the dirt, dig little holes and plant stuff. Its not really that hard and if someone cannot figure that out then they probably should die before they reproduce.JK Not sure how veggies became a part of the subject I just responded to what someone posted. While off the subject [B]I don't think salt is a big cause of people getting fat either and its more about blood pre[/B].[/quote]


Yeah becasue salt and blood pressure have no correlation.

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[quote=saden1;690971]If it isn't organic there is nothing natural about it. Cheaper? Certainly in some cases it is but I'm pretty for the most part it isn't true. TV dinner is cheaper than making your own food. Better off people eat better food because they can afford better food not simply because they know better...this is the reality of the world.[/quote]


well said, Saden, well said

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[quote=olive523;691186]well said, Saden, well said[/quote]


You have been here since 10/04 and only have 15 post and you respond to this? Who are you Silent Bob?


Oh you are Matty's wife, sorry. You always throw me for a loop.

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Let me also add if you have not already seen it check out Food, Inc. great doc o nthe state of the food industry in our country.

[url=http://www.foodincmovie.com/]Official Food, Inc. Movie Site - Hungry For Change?[/url]

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[quote=mredskins;691197]You have been here since 10/04 and only have 15 post and you respond to this? Who are you Silent Bob?


Oh you are Matty's wife, sorry. You always throw me for a loop.[/quote]

wow whats your problem?

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[quote=olive523;691206][QUOTE=mredskins;691197]You have been here since 10/04 and only have 15 post and you respond to this? Who are you Silent Bob?


Oh you are Matty's wife, sorry. You always throw me for a loop.[/QUOT

wow whats your problem?[/quote]


No problem, I just saw that you been on here for a long time and it was strange that you answered in this thread for the first time in a long time but then I remember who you were and you peek in from time to time. Again I apologize.

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[quote=mredskins;691210][quote=olive523;691206]


No problem, I just saw that you been on here for a long time and it was strange that you answered in this thread for the first time in a long time but then I remember who you were and you peek in from time to time. Again I apologize.[/quote]


gotcha

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I remember back in high school one of my history teachers explaining to our class that most older Russian women have cankles because of the high salt content in the Soviet-era diet. I still laugh about that one.

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I think tonight in keeping with this thread I'm going to eat a 16oz ribeye, bake potato with all the fixings, green beans cooked with some ham, good bread and pound it down with soda. I love salt on my steak and bake potato. I will finish it off with a loud FU Obama burp.

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[quote=Mattyk;690932]What we really need is a drastic overhaul of the way our food is grown and produced. We've got animals jacked up on steroids and antibiotics. The water supply is going to shit, processed foods are full of sugar, salt, and are basically void of nutrition. [B]Kids are fatter than ever and don't get enough exercise, nobody knows how to eat properly anymore and diabetes is a badge of honor it seems.[/B][/quote]

no s, and i don't think the government should ban any foods you just need parents and teachers to educate kids on a healthy life style. i rememeber seeing on the news a few weeks back some elementry school had bought a wii for their pe class, are you f-ing kidding me tell those little bastards to get off their ass and go kick a f-ing soccer ball around. it's just another step in the wrong direction with the whole attidue of being to lazy to do a damn thing about your own health and trying to sue mcdonalds for you being a fat ass. it's not like ronald mcdonald's scary ass is holding a gun to your head when you order your double 1/4 pounder with largew fries and a side of nuggets, but atleast you ordered a diet coke right? gotta watch your weight, people are annoying. :rant: sorry

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]FYI if you are for this regulation you are probably a anti-Semite as many Kosher foods contain high amounts of sodium. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][URL="http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/health-care/3364-big-brother-and-the-salt-fix"]Big Brother and the Salt Fix[/URL][/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]"It is also would seem that limiting salt in processed foods could violate ethnic and perhaps religious injunctions. Kosher food, for example, often contains significant amounts of sodium. The preparation of that food for marketing requires the supervision of appropriate rabbinical authorities. Are these now going to be governed by federal regulators instead? "[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Some of you guys are d[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]espicable......... [/FONT][/COLOR]
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[quote=mlmpetert;691235][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]FYI if you are for this regulation you are probably a anti-Semite as many Kosher foods contain high amounts of sodium. [/FONT][/COLOR][/B]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][URL="http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/health-care/3364-big-brother-and-the-salt-fix"]Big Brother and the Salt Fix[/URL][/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]"It is also would seem that limiting salt in processed foods could violate ethnic and perhaps religious injunctions. Kosher food, for example, often contains significant amounts of sodium. The preparation of that food for marketing requires the supervision of appropriate rabbinical authorities. Are these now going to be governed by federal regulators instead? "[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Some of you guys are d[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]espicable......... [/FONT][/COLOR]
[/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]

You have no idea WTF you're talking about. Kosher salt is the best kind of salt you can eat and it cost more because it has no additives. The kind of "salt" you get in processed food is sodium benzoate or potassium benzoate which are notoriously bad for you.

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Does the new regulation apply to salt licks?

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;691258]Does the new regulation apply to salt licks?[/quote]
DAMN Cows and the occasional....renegade deer abusing salt....I think not!
You can have my salt shaker.....comrade, when you can pry it from my cold dead fingers.....

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[quote=firstdown;691225]I think tonight in keeping with this thread I'm going to eat a 16oz ribeye, bake potato with all the fixings, green beans cooked with some ham, good bread and pound it down with soda. I love salt on my steak and bake potato. I will finish it off with a loud FU Obama burp.[/quote]

Damn, all you need now is some whiskey, a pack of smokes, some unprotected sex, and you are officially a rebel.

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:lol:

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[quote=Mattyk;691283]Damn, all you need now is some whiskey, a pack of smokes, some unprotected sex, and you are officially a rebel.[/quote]
either that, or one of the worlds biggest rednecks:)

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Hmmmmm will the government regulate salt as well as they have managed the federal budget, medicare, Fannie and Freddie etc....

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[quote=saden1;691244][B]you have no idea WTF you're talking about.[/B] Kosher salt is the best kind of salt you can eat and it cost more because it has no additives. The kind of "salt" you get in processed food is sodium benzoate or potassium benzoate which are notoriously bad for you.[/quote]


dang i was just joking dude........

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did prohibition stop people from drinking? cutting back on a little salt is worth this much attention? something that's actually trying to make people alittle more healthy is a bad thing? i know, if the gov't regulates this whats next? my coffee creamer? how much sugar i put in my cereal? some of you guys sound pretty ridiculous

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[quote=firstdown;691225]I think tonight in keeping with this thread I'm going to eat a 16oz ribeye, bake potato with all the fixings, green beans cooked with some ham, good bread and pound it down with soda. I love salt on my steak and bake potato. I will finish it off with a loud FU Obama burp.[/quote]


So you are going to eat unhealthy and hurt your body as an FU to Obama, awesome idea! Next try jumping off a bridge that would be the ultimate FU to Obama, trust me.

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Uh oh

[url=http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1983542,00.html]Study: Too Much Sugar Increases Heart Risks - TIME[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;691462]Uh oh

[URL="http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1983542,00.html"]Study: Too Much Sugar Increases Heart Risks - TIME[/URL][/quote]


I am just going to eat boiled organic chicken breast and veggies from my garden moving forward.

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[quote=dmek25;691389]did prohibition stop people from drinking? cutting back on a little salt is worth this much attention? something that's actually trying to make people alittle more healthy is a bad thing? i know, if the gov't regulates this whats next? my coffee creamer? [B]how much sugar i put in my cereal?[/B] some of you guys sound pretty ridiculous[/quote]


I think without a doubt cereals will have serious legislation introduced on how much sugar they can contain within the next 10 years, Im sereal. Theres already been attempted tv ad cereal bans, because they target kids - but for sereal, kids dont buy cereal. Can parents really not say no to their kids?

[url=http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1144&dat=19751223&id=wE8dAAAAIBAJ&sjid=nFYEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3389,2360632]The Pittsburgh Press - Google News Archive Search[/url]

[url=http://www.arch1design.com/Health_News_4.html]Health News : Sugar levels in children's cereals are still 'shocking'[/url]

and check this out:

[LEFT][COLOR=#000000]"As we speak, legislation is wiggling through Congress that would ban candy and sugary beverages in schools -- bake sales, a la carte lunches, Halloween goodies, birthday cupcakes -- and stipulate that suitable chow be offered. It's legislation that can't be stopped. It's for the children. "

Read more at the Washington Examiner: [URL="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/No-fat-kids_-90219387.html#ixzz0lq3Vbtnt"][COLOR=#0000ff]http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/No-fat-kids_-90219387.html#ixzz0lq3Vbtnt[/COLOR][/URL]
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I just realized we are headed towards a future predicted by the movie Demolition Man, staring Sylvester Stallone and Wesley Snipes.

"It is explained that anything "not good for you" is deemed "bad" and therefore illegal, including alcohol, caffeine, contact sports, non-educational toys, meat, spicy and unhealthy food, table salt and tobacco. Firearms can only be seen in museums. Physical contact was recognized as causing the spread of disease and is now seen as unusual. Even high-fives have been replaced with energetic waving. "Sex" is no longer a physical act for the same reasons, and even kissing is not condoned. Instead, "Vir-Sex" is performed by using sex simulators worn on the participants' heads to replace physical intercourse. Procreation is carried out in a laboratory; abortion is illegal, but so is unlicensed pregnancy. Toilet paper has been replaced by a set of seashell-like items, though their method of use is left unexplained in the movie (though Stallone later suggested a possible method in an interview as told to him by one of the film's writers[4])."

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demolition_Man_(film[/url])

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[quote=Buster;691136]They have strawberries and hot peppers in those upside-down plants you see on TV too. ;)[/quote]

I saw that too. I'm going to try that out. My garden is almost ready.

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Whatever! At the end of the day you're going to die. Yeah, you might have a really healthy body and some kick ass guns, but you're going to die. That six pack is going to look off the chain in the casket. I don't worry about it myself.

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[quote=Mattyk;691283]Damn, all you need now is some whiskey, a pack of smokes, some unprotected sex, and you are officially a rebel.[/quote]

Sounds like a damn fine Saturday night if you ask me.

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[quote=Mattyk;691462]Uh oh

[URL="http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1983542,00.html"]Study: Too Much Sugar Increases Heart Risks - TIME[/URL][/quote]
That's been known for a bit, but looks like they did a more thorough study based on your average everyday people.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;691541]Sounds like a damn fine Saturday night if you ask me.[/quote]

Oh and some cussin' and brawlin' at the local Applebee's too :silly:

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[quote=Mattyk;691555]Oh and some cussin' and brawlin' at the local Applebee's too :silly:[/quote]

I was trying to forget that.

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[quote=Mattyk;691555]Oh and some cussin' and brawlin' at the local Applebee's too :silly:[/quote]
I'm a veteran! And a diabetic! Applebee's has rats! I found a whole rat in my Cobb salad!