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diehard 04-24-2010 01:48 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
Is anyone on the same page with the details of this trade? Is it a conditional 2011 pick or 2012 4th rounder?

44ever 04-24-2010 01:54 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
[quote=diehard;694065]Is anyone on the same page with the details of this trade? Is it a conditional 2011 pick or 2012 4th rounder?[/quote]
Oakland's fourth-round pick in the 2012 draft in exchange for Campbell
[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-campbell/redskins-in-trade-talks-involv.html]Redskins Insider - Redskins trade Jason Campbell to Oakland (updated)[/url]

44ever 04-24-2010 02:00 PM

Re: Jason Campbell traded to Raiders
 
[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-campbell/redskins-in-trade-talks-involv.html]Redskins Insider - Redskins trade Jason Campbell to Oakland (updated)[/url]
"I'm a Raider now, so I'm going to take all my experiences here and I'll be an even better quarterback for the Raiders." - Jason Campbell

Not as good as Mcnabb... But Good luck Jason...

44Deezel 04-24-2010 02:02 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
What did those 3 picks we gave up to get Campbell amount to?

44ever 04-24-2010 02:03 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
[quote=44Deezel;694122]What did those 3 picks we gave up to get Campbell amount to?[/quote]
:censored: Time to move forward.

The Goat 04-24-2010 02:05 PM

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[quote=diehard;694060]There should be rules about trading future draft picks. 2012? C'mon.[/quote]

Word. Personally I expect 2012 to be our last year on earth which is hardly enough time to develop a 4th rd player.

Kalisto2010 04-24-2010 02:13 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;693968]He's doomed. No O-Line, no recievers. It's a QB's dream.[/quote]

What do you mean no receivers? How you could you forget Darius Heyward Bey? That kid is on the brink of super-stardom;)

44ever 04-24-2010 02:13 PM

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[quote=The Goat;694131]Word. Personally I expect 2012 to be our last year on earth which is hardly enough time to develop a 4th rd player.[/quote]

LOL... Yeah I'm real disappointed that its not an immediate addition. But it puts things in perfect perspective regarding JC's value. To keep the peace I'll leave it at that.

Dirtbag59 04-24-2010 02:21 PM

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[quote=Kalisto2010;694149]What do you mean no receivers? How you could you forget Darius Heyward Bey? [B]That kid is on the brink of super-stardom[/B];)[/quote]

Lol yeah, maybe in the olympics.

IrMitchell 04-24-2010 02:23 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
2011 4th round pick, I love it. It was this or he would get released. Now we just cross our fingers that a) He doesn't out perform Donovan and b) our 4th round pick next year somehow manages to give us extreme depth at a position.

johno 04-24-2010 02:24 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
i am good with the compensation, why does it matter that the pick is down the road? a pick is a pick.

i genuinely hope he goes on a plays well in oakland. good luck JC, you seem to be a good dude.

IrMitchell 04-24-2010 02:28 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
Oh correction a 2012 4th round pick.. Odd?

TheSmurfs22 04-24-2010 02:30 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
Hope Jason has a good ride in Oakland, at least it is warmer than Buffalo.

Still not psyched about Grossman being a backup though.

Kalisto2010 04-24-2010 02:33 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
Just finished watching the phone interview with JC on NFLN, and he said that he's coming in as the starter? If so, good for him. Davis must really like him.

mredskins 04-24-2010 02:38 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
I kind of feel like I lost a family member, I liked the guy, was he the best ever or even good enough probably not but in a world of Big Ben's you just wish a guy like this could have been the answer.

Good luck Soup you will be missed!

Dirtbag59 04-24-2010 02:39 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
[quote=TheSmurfs22;694179]Hope Jason has a good ride in Oakland, at least it is warmer than Buffalo.

Still not psyched about Grossman being a backup though.[/quote]

Have no fear.
[IMG]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:74HLx9oQrudRsM:http://www.hardknocksports.com/wp-content/colt-brennan-redskins.jpg[/IMG]
Actually I'm pretty interested in seeing weather or not Colt can win the number 2 job. It seems like he's going to get that chance. All of the QB's that could have been a real threat to Colt making the team seem to have been drafted.

internetcareer 04-24-2010 02:40 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
[quote=44Deezel;694122]What did those 3 picks we gave up to get Campbell amount to?[/quote]

you're livin in the past. Learn to move on.

mlmdub130 04-24-2010 02:42 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
[quote=internetcareer;694191]you're livin in the past. Learn to move on.[/quote]

we are in the future now 2012 4th round baby!

again all the best jc, just wish we could have gotten fair value for him

casserly had some interesting comments

internetcareer 04-24-2010 02:43 PM

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[quote=The Goat;694131]Word. Personally I expect 2012 to be our last year on earth which is hardly enough time to develop a 4th rd player.[/quote]

well the mayans did not predict the end of the world, just the end of the world as we know it, so perhaps they knew that the Redskins would finally end these losing years and finally get back to winning in 2012.:silly:

The Goat 04-24-2010 02:46 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;694190]Have no fear.
[IMG]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:74HLx9oQrudRsM:http://www.hardknocksports.com/wp-content/colt-brennan-redskins.jpg[/IMG]
Actually I'm pretty interested in seeing weather or not Colt can win the number 2 job. It seems like he's going to get that chance. All of the QB's that could have been a real threat to Colt making the team seem to have been drafted.[/quote]

Colt is still the future of the franchise! ;) McNabb will get us a championship or two over the next few years and then Colt will come in and dominate for a decade.

skinsfaninok 04-24-2010 02:47 PM

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Good for JC..

Dirtbag59 04-24-2010 02:52 PM

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[quote=The Goat;694196]Colt is still the future of the franchise! ;) McNabb will get us a championship or two over the next few years and then Colt will come in and dominate for a decade.[/quote]

Actually never mind. Tony Pike is still out there. I actually feel kind of good about that. I personally didn't see much in him outside of his height and it seems like the scouts agree with me.

44ever 04-24-2010 02:52 PM

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[quote=The Goat;694196]Colt is still the future of the franchise! ;) McNabb will get us a championship or two over the next few years and then Colt will come in and dominate for a decade.[/quote]

Campbell Trade = The return of the Cult. I'm with you on this one Bro!:food-smil - To the future...
[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/127468-washington-redskins-colt-brennan-is-the-future-jason-campbell-the-past]Colt Brennan: The Future of the Washington Redskins...Jason Campbell: The Past | Bleacher Report[/url] February 21, 2009

BigHairedAristocrat 04-24-2010 03:13 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
so, how does everyone feel about the compensation? A 2012 4th = a 2011 5th = a 2011 6th. so, i'm pretty happy. it'll most definitely be a top 100 pick. :-)

Dirtbag59 04-24-2010 03:16 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
[quote=44ever;694205]Campbell Trade = The return of the Cult. I'm with you on this one Bro!:food-smil - To the future...
[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/127468-washington-redskins-colt-brennan-is-the-future-jason-campbell-the-past]Colt Brennan: The Future of the Washington Redskins...Jason Campbell: The Past | Bleacher Report[/url] February 21, 2009[/quote]

Tony Pike just got drafted. The cult can now take comfort in the fact that no one will challenge Colt's cult status.

Zerohero 04-24-2010 03:18 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
He was a good guy and i wish him success in Oakland. Now we can move on.

firstdown 04-24-2010 03:28 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
[quote=mlmdub130;694040]i'm with you, i wasn't the biggest jc fan but he had a raw deal here and after last off season i was in his corner and wish him all the best[/quote]

Raw deal? So now we say when a guy gets paid over 11 million if he is not treated like the best QB in the world he gets a raw deal. Hell it was the Skins and Gibbs that gave JC a chance and he should be greatful that we did. He had every chance in the world to show he was a starting QB but he failed in my book. Now because we have let him go he gets another two year deal worth around 8 million. So now he could fail there and when it all said and done earned 18 million in 7 years. Raw deal my ass.

Paintrain 04-24-2010 03:31 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;694190]Have no fear.
[IMG]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:74HLx9oQrudRsM:http://www.hardknocksports.com/wp-content/colt-brennan-redskins.jpg[/IMG]
Actually I'm pretty interested in seeing weather or not Colt can win the number 2 job. It seems like he's going to get that chance. All of the QB's that could have been a real threat to Colt making the team seem to have been drafted.[/quote]

Kyle didn't bring Grossman in here to be third string. Grossman has started a Super Bowl, Cult has yet to take a regular season snap. Who do you think is going to be the #2?

The Goat 04-24-2010 03:33 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
[quote=44ever;694205]Campbell Trade = The return of the Cult. I'm with you on this one Bro!:food-smil - To the future...
[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/127468-washington-redskins-colt-brennan-is-the-future-jason-campbell-the-past]Colt Brennan: The Future of the Washington Redskins...Jason Campbell: The Past | Bleacher Report[/url] February 21, 2009[/quote]

Enjoyable article!

I'm anxiously awaiting Mike Shanahan's comments on Colt during the preseason and beyond.

Dirtbag59 04-24-2010 03:40 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
[quote=Paintrain;694247]Kyle didn't bring Grossman in here to be third string. Grossman has started a Super Bowl, Cult has yet to take a regular season snap. Who do you think is going to be the #2?[/quote]

My money would be on Grossman but remember Grossman got hurt in camp last year and didn't show up until the last preseason game. Colt at least made it through most of the preseason. The thing that matters is that theres going to be a competition and the best player will get that backup spot behind McNabb. I'm just interested in seeing how Colt does in this system.

GusFrerotte 04-24-2010 03:48 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
Colt as backup is probable in the next two years anyway. The thing is if we draft a QB late this year or somehow go after Mallet or Keenum next year, then who knows. I don't see Brennan being here once Donovan goes though.

CRedskinsRule 04-24-2010 03:49 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
[quote=44Deezel;694122]What did those 3 picks we gave up to get Campbell amount to?[/quote]

I can tell you one thing those picks gave us, which will forever be overlooked. They gave us a class act at the QB position at a time when we had a terrible tragedy with Sean Taylor, followed by years of upheaval and a terrible FO. Many qb's would have failed the team or bailed or like Cutler, whined like a little baby. JC acted like the consummate professional, and did his best, which in the end let the focus be on the awful FO and HC, which in turn forced DS to recognize the need for a new plan. That gave us MS and BA. And Optimism for the future.

Good luck JC, it was trial by fire here, but I wish you the best going forward.

Kalisto2010 04-24-2010 03:49 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
Looks like the Raider nation is accepting JC with ecstatic open arms. They're acting like they just got Dan Marino.

[url=http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=393621&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15]NFL Forum :: - Jason Campbell[/url]

The Goat 04-24-2010 03:55 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
[quote=Kalisto2010;694281]Looks like the Raider nation is accepting JC with ecstatic open arms. They're acting like they just got Dan Marino.

[url=http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=393621&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15]NFL Forum :: - Jason Campbell[/url][/quote]

Jeez that board is LAME!

JLee9718 04-24-2010 04:07 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
I'll be rooting for Jason and hope he becomes a winner with the Raiders...until they play the Redskins! BTW, the Redskins took the deal and the low choices as a favor to JC.

SFREDSKIN 04-24-2010 04:16 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
Jason, welcome to the SF Bay area I hope you succeed.

12thMan 04-24-2010 04:22 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
[quote=firstdown;694239]Raw deal? So now we say when a guy gets paid over 11 million if he is not treated like the best QB in the world he gets a raw deal. Hell it was the Skins and Gibbs that gave JC a chance and he should be greatful that we did. He had every chance in the world to show he was a starting QB but he failed in my book. Now because we have let him go he gets another two year deal worth around 8 million. So now he could fail there and when it all said and done earned 18 million in 7 years. Raw deal my ass.[/quote]

These are my exact sentiments. I called into B.Mitch's show about two or three weeks ago, they were dedicating an hour talking about Jason Campbell. It was the weekend of of the McNabb trade, whenever that was.

Anyway, me and BMitch sort of got into it about how Jason was "treated" and how he got a raw deal. He was going on and on trying to talk me down, you know. The other guy on the show was a prick too. I basically said the same thing you just said, when the Redskins drafted Campbell in the first round, he got his shot. Sure the conditions weren't always perfect here, but God damn son welcome to the NFL! It was funny, they were still talking trash after I hung up. It was a good exchange no doubt.

I wish the Campbell the best and I hope he lights it up in Oakland.

Longtimefan 04-24-2010 04:23 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
The results of Jason's career thus far has been one of a kind. Hope he finds success out west. Good luck Jason, there are some people here in DC that will miss you.

12thMan 04-24-2010 04:24 PM

Re: Campbell A Raider
 
As far as why '12, I think Mooby nailed it. This was about a possible lockout in the future and the Redskins didn't want to box themselves in with so much uncertainty regarding the future of the CBA.

Look, what got what we got for the guy and it's time to move on. The market was all around unkind to a lot of guys this year, not just Jason. Ask Jimmy Clausen and Colt McCoy.

JLee9718 04-24-2010 04:37 PM

Re: Jason Campbell traded to Raiders
 
Rich Gannon did very well with the Raiders, but of course he was a different kind of QB. Rich played for the Redskins, but couldn't do anything because he played with a very bad offensive line. I was surprised when he became an all-pro with the Raiders. Maybe the same thing will happen to JC.


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