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[quote=mlmpetert;698897][QUOTE=Rainy Parade;698761]cmon guys, we're all too old to be wearing jerseys (unless you're at a live game, or perhaps if you are in a sports bar for the sole purpose of wathing a game of that team).

i remember there was some issue with LaVar's jersey... incidently i have a burgundy lavar56 jersey by Nike. since it's so rare and impossible to find.... [B]i'd be happy to sell it to one of you uber-fan merch collectors for a very high price![/[/B]QUOTE]


Interested in a stright up trade (about half way down the page):

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/36456-redskins-release-5-a-6.html[/URL][/quote]


ha, that's pretty dope!

wait, is it masking tape or painters tape?

scotch or 3m?

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Its masking tape. Im not sure the brand, i was expecting regular thickness masking tape, but this was all my Mom could find at the time.

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Who cares? He's just a overhyped rookie who still doesn't understand the basic tactical knowledge for a NFL QB. He's essentially a Michael Vick with no arm. The only time he'll be effective is like in the wildcat.

McNabb> Tebow

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[quote=mlmpetert;698895][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I dont think Tebow's sales have much to do with religious people picking one up to complement their WWJD caps,[B] but more to do with him being one of the best college players[/B] ever and a complete badass. Just like when Reggie Bush had crazy jersey sales when he was a rookie. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Also Lavar wouldnt license his number to Madden for a long time either. It would be a shame players dont get a decent percentage of their jersey sales. [/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]
And a WHOLE LOTTA MEDIA HYPE

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my guess is gmscud is responsible for about 6 or 7 jerseys

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[quote=mlmdub130;699053]my guess is gmscud is responsible for about 6 or 7 jerseys[/quote] :lol:

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[quote=hooskins;698725]Bible beaters have a place and a face to invest in.

Thats why.[/quote]
Doubtful that all the fellows following the Broncos are of the "zealous" Protestant variety.

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[quote=mlmdub130;699053]my guess is gmscud is responsible for about 6 or 7 jerseys[/quote]

LOL. Nope, just one. ;)

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[quote=mredskins;698878]Because he is a "born again"![/quote]
Why do you find the thought of that so provocative?
or does it threaten you in some way?

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;699080]Doubtful that all the fellows following the Broncos are of the "zealous" Protestant variety.[/quote]
No they arent, but the causal(NFL) and religious fan will buy the Jersey to support what he stands for.

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[quote=mredskins;698878]Because he is a "born again"![/quote]

He's actually not "born again." Born agains are people that lost their way in life and then "found Jesus" as they say. Tebow is the son of missionaries. He's been this way from day 1. Sure he's a religious guy, but he's not fake, and he doesn't walk around pushing his beliefs on people. He's just himself- and intense, competitive, and very religious dude. He'll be good for the NFL just for the charity work he'll do while he's in league, even if he never amounts to much as a player.

With shitheads like Big Ben, Santonio Holmes, Marvin Harrison, Pac Man Jones, and all the other trouble makers, guys like Tebow are good for the NFL, even if he never turns into a star player.

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The character part is a good thing, but just because he is religious doesnt mean he is a good guy. We all know examples of people that arent.

Thats what I am not too thrilled about. How people just assume he is some sort of angel because he hates abortion. Now he is probably is a good guy, and he can support whatever he wants. Let's not just assume all those who are not religious, or open about their beliefs, are somewhat lesser than Tebow.

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[quote=GMScud;699134]He's actually not "born again." Born agains are people that lost their way in life and then "found Jesus" as they say. [B]Tebow is the son of missionaries.[/B] He's been this way from day 1. Sure he's a religious guy, but he's not fake, and[B] he doesn't walk around pushing his beliefs on people.[/B] He's just himself- and intense, competitive, and very religious dude. He'll be good for the NFL just for the charity work he'll do while he's in league, even if he never amounts to much as a player.

With shitheads like Big Ben, Santonio Holmes, Marvin Harrison, Pac Man Jones, and all the other trouble makers, guys like Tebow are good for the NFL, even if he never turns into a star player.[/quote]
Nope, he flies to other countries to do it, with the promise of helping the villages with everyday needs :)

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Actually I don't know how his missions groups work, just how many others do.

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[quote=hooskins;699136]The character part is a good thing, but just because he is religious doesnt mean he is a good guy. We all know examples of people that arent.

Thats what I am not too thrilled about. How people just assume he is some sort of angel because he hates abortion. Now he is probably is a good guy, and he can support whatever he wants. Let's not just assume all those who are not religious, or open about their beliefs, are somewhat lesser than Tebow.[/quote]

People's appreciation for Tebow shouldn't in any way diminish what other good guys in the league have done. The media has a freakin orgasm for all things Tebow. That's not really his fault.

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[quote=tryfuhl;699138]Nope, he flies to other countries to do it, with the promise of helping the villages with everyday needs :)[/quote]

Touche. What I mean is he doesn't go into a locker room and tell someone how they should think religiously. He offered a bible study group to some of the guys on the Florida team who were actively christian, but that's about it from everything I've heard/read.

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[quote=GMScud;699147]People's appreciation for Tebow shouldn't in any way diminish what other good guys in the league have done. The media has a freakin orgasm for all things Tebow. That's not really his fault.[/quote]
In an ideal world they shouldn't, but player stock/perception is all relative. People who are "religious" are immediately portrayed as high character and good guys. IMO thats unfair to someone who does not have that belief. They are immediately viewed as lesser, all else things being equal.

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[quote=GMScud;699150]Touche. What I mean is he doesn't go into a locker room and tell someone how they should think religiously. He offered a bible study group to some of the guys on the Florida team who were actively christian, but that's about it from everything I've heard/read.[/quote]
No, he just does it [URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/23/tebows-pre-wonderlic-prayer-request-falls-flat/"]during the Wonderlic[/URL].

Ladies and gents I'll be here all night. I think I did hear Tebow say that that never happened, so who knows.

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[quote=hooskins;699152]In an ideal world they shouldn't, but player stock/perception is all relative. People who are "religious" are immediately portrayed as high character and good guys. IMO thats unfair to someone who does not have that belief. They are immediately viewed as lesser, all else things being equal.[/quote]
Basically. Imagine a presidential candidate claiming atheism. The whole atheism = evil connotation is ridiculous.

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[quote=tryfuhl;699156]No, he just does it [URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/23/tebows-pre-wonderlic-prayer-request-falls-flat/"]during the Wonderlic[/URL].

Ladies and gents I'll be here all night. I think I did hear Tebow say that that never happened, so who knows.[/quote]

Well if actually got the below score I agree with this poster:
[LIST=1][*] [URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/23/tebows-pre-wonderlic-prayer-request-falls-flat/"]kpweaver27[/URL] says: [URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/23/tebows-pre-wonderlic-prayer-request-falls-flat/#comment-1080958"]March 23, 2010 7:27 PM[/URL] He scored a 22 of 50. He should have studied more and prayed less. Something all of America could follow.[/LIST]

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[quote=hooskins;699158]Well if actually got the below score I agree with this poster:
[LIST=1][*] [URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/23/tebows-pre-wonderlic-prayer-request-falls-flat/"]kpweaver27[/URL] says: [URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/23/tebows-pre-wonderlic-prayer-request-falls-flat/#comment-1080958"]March 23, 2010 7:27 PM[/URL] He scored a 22 of 50. He should have studied more and prayed less. Something all of America could follow.[/LIST][/quote]
Yeah, I mean I've taken the sample tests and always get above a 40. Granted I'm not taking it there, but I haven't been in school for 7 years.. only did 2 semesters in college. No excuse to perform that poorly, it's a very simple test.

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[quote=tryfuhl;699156]No, he just does it [URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/23/tebows-pre-wonderlic-prayer-request-falls-flat/"]during the Wonderlic[/URL].

Ladies and gents I'll be here all night.[B] I think I did hear Tebow say that that never happened, so who knows.[/B][/quote]

Exactly.

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[quote=tryfuhl;699157]Basically. Imagine a presidential candidate claiming atheism. The whole atheism = evil connotation is ridiculous.[/quote]
Yeah.

I would just like for people to keep their beliefs to themselves. IMO, if that PFT story is true, that is a bit too much from Tebow. Having an after hours Bible study is great, but spending team time advertising it, announcing it (what he must have done), etc. is too far.

Also I dont buy the whole "this is just because he is a high pick rookie" argument. Bradford was drafted before him. Its a combination of Tebow's beliefs and possible Gator Nation weighing in.

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[quote=hooskins;699133]No they arent, but the causal(NFL) and religious fan will buy the Jersey to support what he stands for.[/quote]
Well, with the info being relatively incomplete for statistical data analysis, we're at a stalemate. Still, given that 30% of the buyers are Floridians, and assuming another 20% are Broncos fans getting their new fix, I still think it is sort of a stretch that there would be that many buyers buying for religious reasons, but that's my speculation.

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I'm not buying an NFL jersey for another team unless it's of a family member or close friend, which doesn't look like it will be happening anytime soon. If I loved the kid in college I'll get a college jersey.

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Seems we are at an impasse good Sir. I would agree Gator fans are a driving force in these sales as well but i think the additional religious factor is propelling an otherwise so-so jersey.

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[quote=GMScud;699134]He's actually not "born again." Born agains are people that lost their way in life and then "found Jesus" as they say. Tebow is the son of missionaries. He's been this way from day 1. Sure he's a religious guy, but he's not fake, and he doesn't walk around pushing his beliefs on people. He's just himself- and intense, competitive, and very religious dude. He'll be good for the NFL just for the charity work he'll do while he's in league, even if he never amounts to much as a player.

With shitheads like Big Ben, Santonio Holmes, Marvin Harrison, Pac Man Jones, and all the other trouble makers, guys like Tebow are good for the NFL, even if he never turns into a star player.[/quote]


I was speaking of Buster not your hero.

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[quote=GMScud;699134]He's actually not "born again." Born agains are people that lost their way in life and then "found Jesus" as they say. Tebow is the son of missionaries. He's been this way from day 1. [B] Sure he's a religious guy, but he's not fake, and he doesn't walk around pushing his beliefs on people.[/B] He's just himself- and intense, competitive, and very religious dude. He'll be good for the NFL just for the charity work he'll do while he's in league, even if he never amounts to much as a player.

With shitheads like Big Ben, Santonio Holmes, Marvin Harrison, Pac Man Jones, and all the other trouble makers, guys like Tebow are good for the NFL, even if he never turns into a star player.[/quote]


Dude honestly he pushes it on folks at times and you know it. I am in his camp and hope he does well but lets call a spade a spade.

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Regardless of the religious angle he's an extremely hyped up player coming out of college. I think that probably has more to do with the jersey sales.

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I have a doug williams and art monk authentic mitchell and ness jersey if anyone wants to buy em. just msg me. I never wear em.

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To say that Tebow pushes religion on others because he allegedly suggested everyone say a prayer before taking the Wonderlic test (which apparently was some major deal, yet it's not when the coach or a player gathers everyone together in the locker room for a pre-game prayer) is like saying Kedric Golston pushes alcoholism if he suggests everyone go out for a drink after the game.

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[quote=SmootSmack;699250]To say that Tebow pushes religion on others because he allegedly suggested everyone say a prayer before taking the Wonderlic test (which apparently was some major deal, yet it's not when the coach or a player gathers everyone together in the locker room for a pre-game prayer) is like saying Kedric Golston pushes alcoholism if he suggests everyone go out for a drink after the game.[/quote]

Well.....you are correct, no big deal.....except T said it? I can't figure out why people love to hate on the guy. He seems to be the real deal. A good guy who literally practices what he preaches. AND I am sure a zillion media types have been digging for...ANY dirt on him for years. Find any?
Maybe a T hater can...enlighten me on that issue?

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[quote=SmootSmack;699250]To say that Tebow pushes religion on others because he allegedly suggested everyone say a prayer before taking the Wonderlic test (which apparently was some major deal, yet it's not when the coach or a player gathers everyone together in the locker room for a pre-game prayer) is like saying Kedric Golston pushes alcoholism if he suggests everyone go out for a drink after the game.[/quote]


Super Bowl ads? Their job is to spread the word of Jesus and they do so and to find more followers. Plain and simple.

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[quote=mredskins;699260]Super Bowl ads? Their job is to spread the word of Jesus and they do so and to find more followers. Plain and simple.[/quote]

Ok, fine. Agree to disagree

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[quote=mredskins;699260]Super Bowl ads? Their job is to spread the word of Jesus and they do so and to find more followers. Plain and simple.[/quote]

Their Super Bowl ad never even mentions the word "God" or "abortion" actually. Sure it was supporting a pro-life Christian group called Focus on the Family, but it definitely wasn't pushing beliefs, it was just his mother sharing her story of her tough pregnancy with Tim. I'm actually pro-choice (with strings attached), but I had no problem with this ad.

I don't get the haters. I just don't. I guess people will find a reason to hate anything. We all talk so much smack about all the criminals and scumbags throughout pro sports. So here's a kid who just gets it, and people still want to bash.

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[quote=SmootSmack;699264]Ok, fine. Agree to disagree[/quote]


Maybe not so much Tebow but he is with them. I will admit I am a bit jaded and that I work with a ton of them and by the 50th invite of the day to their church it gets a bit old.

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[quote=mredskins;699276]Maybe not so much Tebow but he is with them. I will admit I am a bit jaded and that I work with a ton of them and by the 50th invite of the day to their church it gets a bit old.[/quote]

Yeah I'm not a fan of the whole church of God come worship with us invites (I knew a few of them down in Florida, not as much up here), but there are far worse people in this world.

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[quote=GMScud;699279]Yeah I'm not a fan of the whole church of God come worship with us invites (I knew a few of them down in Florida, not as much up here), but there are far worse people in this world.[/quote]


Agreed! What they are doing in my office actually could get them in hot water but I just politely say no, I don't run to HR and say someone is trying to push religion on me in the work place.

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[quote=GMScud;699279]Yeah I'm not a fan of the whole church of God come worship with us invites (I knew a few of them down in Florida, not as much up here), but there are far worse people in this world.[/quote]


Just go take a drive by the McLean Bible Church.

If you are missing your invites back in FL.

[url=http://mcleanbible.org/]Central Home Page for McLean Bible Church (McLean Bible Church - Home )[/url]

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[quote=GMScud;699275]Their Super Bowl ad never even mentions the word "God" or "abortion" actually. Sure it was supporting a pro-life Christian group called Focus on the Family, but it definitely wasn't pushing beliefs, it was just his mother sharing her story of her tough pregnancy with Tim. I'm actually pro-choice (with strings attached), but I had no problem with this ad.

[B]I don't get the haters.[/B] I just don't. I guess people will find a reason to hate anything. We all talk so much smack about all the criminals and scumbags throughout pro sports. So here's a kid who just gets it, and people still want to bash.[/quote]

I think that Tebow has been hyped and publicized so much that there is a kind of backlash. That is not his fault, of course, but some folks get tired of the hype.