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Maybe throw Ryan Matthews in with Andre, Mendenhall, and Steven Jackson.

Shonn Greene isn't far behind either.

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;723769]You might like this:
[URL="http://www.footballguys.com/bryantvbd.htm"]Joe Bryant - Principles of VBD[/URL]

"The value of a player is determined not by the number of points he scores, but by how much he outscores his peers at his particular position."

1. The object of the game is not to score a ton of points, but to outscore the opponent. You must fill a roster with a specified number of players at specified positions. The surest way to outscore your opponent is to build a team of players that outscore their peers. The players who most distance themselves from the other players at their respective positions are therefore the most valuable. Remember the 8 player draft example where I can't lose after drafting the 20 point WR.

2. Factors such as the specific number of teams, starting lineup requirements, frozen players, and scoring system for your league dramatically effect the values of each player. These factors can cause the same player in two different leagues to have dramatically different values.[/quote]

Great stuff. Those are the exact concepts I rely on.

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[quote=Mattyk;723712]A big hint I always tell folks is watch those bye weeks. You see it all the time where someone drafts a team with no regard to the bye weeks, and they end up with half their starters out for a particular week.[/quote]


I love folks that obese about Bye weeks always leaves some yummy picks for me to gobble up in the late rounds.

So you have one week where you get crushed big deal better then having a favorable bye week players but getting beat every week.

Everyone should read the article that was posted above about VBD, bye weeks are never a factor. I have used that method for awhile and it seems to work well. the hard part is forecasting out each players points for the year. If you are handy in Excel it can go be done really quick.

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I wouldn't pass on a player necessarily due to a bye, but it's something to keep in mind. I don't like giving away easy wins myself. That's just my view.

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And we're not talking being screwed for one week either, depending on your breakdown you could easily end up getting screwed for 2 weeks.

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too each is own but seriously bye week should be one of the least things you are worried about. Honestly read that VBD article and do the exercise, it makes ton of sense.

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"Take the best player available with no regard for the possibility of that player being available a round later....oh yeah, and stock up on receivers."
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[quote=mredskins;723811]too each is own but seriously bye week should be one of the least things you are worried about. Honestly read that VBD article and do the exercise, it makes ton of sense.[/quote]

Agreed it's not a huge deal, just something to keep in mind is all. I didn't say to obsess on it or use it as your main guide in a draft. I've seen times where a team had 2 guys out one week and 2-3 out another week. That's an issue unless you have an extremely deep bench.

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[quote=Mattyk;723839]Agreed it's not a huge deal, just something to keep in mind is all. I didn't say to obsess on it or use it as your main guide in a draft. I've seen times where a team had 2 guys out one week and 2-3 out another week. That's an issue unless you have an extremely deep bench.[/quote]


I was not meaning to pick on you but it annoys me when some guys obese about bye weeks.

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[quote=Mattyk;723839]Agreed it's not a huge deal, just something to keep in mind is all. I didn't say to obsess on it or use it as your main guide in a draft. I've seen times where a team had 2 guys out one week and 2-3 out another week. That's an issue unless you have an extremely deep bench.[/quote]

Bye week can be a big issue. I have had as many as 4 guys with the same bye weeks both starters and backups. I had to drop some of my backups to get starters for one week and ended up losing them for good via waivers. Bye weeks can be crucial depending on your after draft roster. For me though I am always signing guys off of waivers it seems every season just about every week.

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I'd personally rather have all my players on a bye in one week, not make any pickups, and throw the game. I'd rather be 0% strength for one week than 85% strength for like 7 games.

I don't pay attention to bye weeks. They fall where they fall, I just want guys who will get me to the playoffs, but more importantly, guys who will be playing well when I get there.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;723970]Bye week can be a big issue. I have had as many as 4 guys with the same bye weeks both starters and backups. I had to drop some of my backups to get starters for one week and ended up losing them for good via waivers. Bye weeks can be crucial depending on your after draft roster. For me though I am always signing guys off of waivers it seems every season just about every week.[/quote]


I will say it again if you understand the VBD system are a variation of it bye weeks mean nothing in determining the overall value of your player becasue everyone has that variable so it levels the playing field in regards to bye weeks.

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God bless you guys if you love FF that much where you're running spreadsheets and using formulas. I love FF, but not that much.

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[quote=Mattyk;724095]God bless you guys if you love FF that much where you're running spreadsheets and using formulas. I love FF, but not that much.[/quote]

Well I love FF, but I love microsoft excel even more. Finance by trade, you kind of have to love it.

Like I said, big nerd here.

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I stare at spreadsheets all day at work, last thing I want to do is work with them at home too. :)

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[quote=Schneed10;724102]Well I love FF, but I love microsoft excel even more. Finance by trade, you kind of have to love it.

Like I said, big nerd here.[/quote]


LOL! I agree, excel is such a powerful tool especially if you are good at VBA.

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[quote=724Skinsfan;723656]12th, here's a [URL="http://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/draft/807480"]completed mock draft[/URL] from that website. Once again, I think it helps give you a better idea of where and in what round certain players are going.[/quote]

12th, don't be like the fool who drafted Garrett Hartley, a kicker, in the 4th round of that mock draft.

Make them one of your last picks.

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[quote=Mattyk;724103]I stare at spreadsheets all day at work, last thing I want to do is work with them at home too. :)[/quote]

Ever have dreams with excel spreadsheets in em? That's when I know it's time to take a vacation!

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[quote=Buster;724159]12th, don't be like the fool who drafted Garrett Hartley, a kicker, in the 4th round of that mock draft.

Make them one of your last picks.[/quote]

Buster, are you drunk? Kickers weren't taken until the 14th round in that draft.

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So my draft begins in couple of hours...what do you guys think about C.J. Spiller. I really want him, but maybe in a later round?

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[quote=12thMan;725312]So my draft begins in couple of hours...what do you guys think about C.J. Spiller. I really want him, but maybe in a later round?[/quote]Don't reach on him. Do you know your draft postion now?

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Vinny says: "When engaging in trades make sure you add a player or two to sweeten the pot. Unfortunately in Fantasy Football you can't resort to using draft picks. Also make sure you stare down the other person when offering a trade."
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I'm drafting number two...

Peterson or Chris Johnson

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[quote=12thMan;725361]I'm drafting number two...

Peterson or Chris Johnson[/quote]

I drafted Jones-Drew at number 1. He's the safest bet not to get injured. I'm probably wrong about CJ, but Peterson always feels like he's on borrowed time.

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Shit, mistake....I'm drafting nine. Think I'm taking CJ Spiller:)

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Took Pierre Thomas with the ninth pick.

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[quote=12thMan;725364]Shit, mistake....I'm drafting nine. Think I'm taking CJ Spiller:)[/quote]

Not in the first round. I got him in the fourth or fifth round. Maybe even as late as the sixth.

Here use this.
[url=http://www.fftoolbox.com/football/adp.cfm]2010 Fantasy Football Average Draft Position (ADP)[/url]

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So how'd you do?

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my fantasy team...I barfed when I had to get Romo...but it's fantasy BABY.

QB: ROMO
WR: Miles Austin
WR: Roddy White
WR: Pierre Garcon
RB: Adrien Peterson
RB: Jahvid Best
TE: COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLEY
RB/WR: Arian Foster (going to have a nice year by the way in Houston)
K: Bironas
D: Filthadelphia

Benchers are
Portis
Felix Jones
Devin Aromoshadu (get him in the 9th or 10th going to be GREAT)
Zach Miller
Golden Tate
Demaryius Thomas


so what do you guys think?

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[quote=tootergray34;725425]my fantasy team...I barfed when I had to get Romo...but it's fantasy BABY.

QB: ROMO
WR: Miles Austin
WR: Roddy White
WR: Pierre Garcon
RB: Adrien Peterson
RB: Jahvid Best
TE: COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLEY
RB/WR: Arian Foster (going to have a nice year by the way in Houston)
K: Bironas
D: Filthadelphia

Benchers are
Portis
Felix Jones
Devin Aromoshadu (get him in the 9th or 10th going to be GREAT)
Zach Miller
Golden Tate
Demaryius Thomas


so what do you guys think?[/quote]

Way to many Cowboys.

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I know...that's why I can't sleep tonight.

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So it was an interesting night, to say the least, at my first fantansy draft. Couple of things I wanted to point out that explains my picks, which were questionable.

We briefly lost the internet connection and the system made an auto pick for me at RB/Knowshon Moreno. I was so pissed! Our league is also using entire defenses as well IDP. I drafted late in the first.

[B]Offense:[/B]

QB Philip Rivers (2/16)
RB Pierre Thomas (1/9)
RB CJ Spiller (3/33)
RB Knowsho Moreno (autopick 5/57) this is also a flex position
TE Chris Cooley (4/40)
WR Braylon Edwards via trade for Robert Mecham (7/81)
WR Santan Moss (6/64)

[B]Defense:[/B]

Pittsburgh (8/88)

[B]IDP[/B]

Terrell Suggs
DeAngelo Hall
DeMarcus Ware
Dwight Freeney

K - Robbie Gould

[B]Back-ups:[/B]

Donovan McNabb
Eddie Royal
Tashard Choice
Brian Westbrooks (19/225)
Shaun Ellis
Adrian Wilson

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[quote=Dirtbag359;725427]Way to many Cowboys.[/quote]

Yeah, seriously, I'd be dealing all of them if I ended up with that roster. I did pick up Miles Austin last year just before his explosion...and that helped me a lot, but I never draft and rarely own a Cowboy. He was an exception. He won't repeat that success though.

Think about trading Homo, you could probably get a lot of value for him. He's overrated and overhyped. People will overpay.

Usually, when I pre-rank my players, I completely exclude Romo and some other Dallas players. I also move many of theirs and the Eagles' players down a little....just so I won't end up with many of them.

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Here's my draft from yesterday...

QB Aaron Rodgers
RB1 Shonne Green
RB2 Beanie Wells
WR1 Reggie Wayne
WR2 DeSean Jackson
TE Jermichael Finley
W/R Clinton Portis
K Robbie Gould
Def Minnesota

Bench:
Ahmad Bradshaw
Kyle Orton
Braylon Edwards
Santonio Holmes
Heath Miller

I'm worried about week one and whether to sit Beanie Wells or Shonne Green. Green is going against Baltimore plus LT has been looking good in preseason. Wells is against the Rams... so I'm thinking Green should sit in favor of Bradshaw, but I'm not sure how the whole Bradshaw/Jacobs split is going to look. I probably need to trade for a better #1 RB.

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people are saying bradshaw is looking a TON better than Jacobs in fantasy terms. I'd start what you have right now shown. Aaron Rodgers is going to be awesome this year. You HAVE to start shonne green too.

[quote=BleedBurgundy;725548]Here's my draft from yesterday...

QB Aaron Rodgers
RB1 Shonne Green
RB2 Beanie Wells
WR1 Reggie Wayne
WR2 DeSean Jackson
TE Jermichael Finley
W/R Clinton Portis
K Robbie Gould
Def Minnesota

Bench:
Ahmad Bradshaw
Kyle Orton
Braylon Edwards
Santonio Holmes
Heath Miller

I'm worried about week one and whether to sit Beanie Wells or Shonne Green. Green is going against Baltimore plus LT has been looking good in preseason. Wells is against the Rams... so I'm thinking Green should sit in favor of Bradshaw, but I'm not sure how the whole Bradshaw/Jacobs split is going to look. I probably need to trade for a better #1 RB.[/quote]

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I heard recently, can't remember from where, that Bradshaw may end up getting the bulk of the carries this year. Jacobs just isn't the same guy he used to be.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;725548]Here's my draft from yesterday...

QB Aaron Rodgers
RB1 Shonne Green
RB2 Beanie Wells
WR1 Reggie Wayne
WR2 DeSean Jackson
TE Jermichael Finley
W/R Clinton Portis
K Robbie Gould
Def Minnesota

Bench:
Ahmad Bradshaw
Kyle Orton
Braylon Edwards
Santonio Holmes
Heath Miller

I'm worried about week one and whether to sit Beanie Wells or Shonne Green. Green is going against Baltimore plus LT has been looking good in preseason. Wells is against the Rams... so I'm thinking Green should sit in favor of Bradshaw, but I'm not sure how the whole Bradshaw/Jacobs split is going to look. I probably need to trade for a better #1 RB.[/quote]

If I had your team, I'd bench Wells and start Bradshaw for week #1. I really do not trust Beanie Wells or think he'll hold up. Tim Hightower will be a TD vulture there too, he seems more talented than Wells and they can't keep him on the bench too much.

You could also move CP from flex to RB and put Braylon Edwards at flex. Without Holmes active for a month into the season, he should get more looks earlier in the season.

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Buster, no thoughts on my draft? It is my damn thread.

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[quote=Buster;725626]If I had your team, I'd bench Wells and start Bradshaw for week #1. I really do not trust Beanie Wells or think he'll hold up. Tim Hightower will be a TD vulture there too, he seems more talented than Wells and they can't keep him on the bench too much.

You could also move CP from flex to RB and put Braylon Edwards at flex. Without Holmes active for a month into the season, he should get more looks earlier in the season.[/quote]

I'm leery on Bradshaw until I see what the split is going to look like w/ Jacobs, especially considering the Cardinals will be playing the Rams week 1 and should be ahead early, pounding it to kill clock. I don't trust Beanie either though. Thought about that with Braylon... all in all, good suggestions. Definitely thinking about all of them. Hated going so heavy on the Jets seeing as how I think they're way overrated, but with both Holmes and Edwards in a contract year, one of them should emerge as a decent performer.

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[quote=12thMan;725490]So it was an interesting night, to say the least, at my first fantansy draft. Couple of things I wanted to point out that explains my picks, which were questionable.

We briefly lost the internet connection and the system made an auto pick for me at RB/Knowshon Moreno. I was so pissed! Our league is also using entire defenses as well IDP. I drafted late in the first.

[B]Offense:[/B]

QB Philip Rivers (2/16)
RB Pierre Thomas (1/9)
RB CJ Spiller (3/33)
RB Knowsho Moreno (autopick 5/57) this is also a flex position
TE Chris Cooley (4/40)
WR Braylon Edwards via trade for Robert Mecham (7/81)
WR Santan Moss (6/64)

[B]Defense:[/B]

Pittsburgh (8/88)

[B]IDP[/B]

Terrell Suggs
DeAngelo Hall
DeMarcus Ware
Dwight Freeney

K - Robbie Gould

[B]Back-ups:[/B]

Donovan McNabb
Eddie Royal
Tashard Choice
Brian Westbrooks (19/225)
Shaun Ellis
Adrian Wilson[/quote]

Definitely need more RB depth. Moreno is not 100% healthy. Choice is in a 3-way RBBC and "Westbrooks" won't be much of an impact for fantasy purposes.

I'd cut your IDP backups for another RB. See if someone like Hightower, Sproles, Donald Brown or another RB who has a vulnerable starter ahead of him, just to bolster your RB depth.

You're solid at QB and RB.

WR looks good. "Santan" Moss, Edwards, Royal are solid...but you need another one on the bench. I'd get another one for that other IDP backup or see if you could trade Choice for a good WR.

I never like carrying more than 1 IDP backup, if any at all. Wasted roster position and there are always good defensive players available if you have to plug someone else in for injury or bye weeks.