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[quote=SmootSmack;726398]Schefter reports that the Bills, Giants, and Raiders have inquired about trading for Leinart. The Raiders? Campbell, Gradkowski, Boller, Brennan, and Leinart...you know what they say, when you have 5 QBs you have none[/quote]

The other 4 guys don't even matter. Any team with Campbell as the starting quarterack has no quarterback. :)

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Poor Larry Fitzgerald. An absolute stud WR that doesn't even have a competent QB to throw him the ball. He was really downgraded in my fantasy draft this past Monday night, but beyond that, I genuinely feel bad for the guy. His numbers will drop off this year due to no fault of his own.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;726406]The other 4 guys don't even matter. Any team with Campbell as the starting quarterack has no quarterback. :)[/quote]

And the winner is

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxAKFlpdcfc]YouTube - Applause[/ame]

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;726379]Really?? Slightly better? I would say he's been considerably worse.[B] I cant for the life of me find a legitimate reason for Leinart not starting week one.[/B][/quote]


How about 2006-2009?



Anyways...

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5519068]New York Giants looking into disgruntled Arizona Cardinals quarterback Matt Leinart - ESPN New York[/url]

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[quote=Buster;726456]How about 2006-2009?



Anyways...

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5519068]New York Giants looking into disgruntled Arizona Cardinals quarterback Matt Leinart - ESPN New York[/url][/quote]

With Derek Anderson as the other guy, I take Leinart seven days a week.

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Anderson has actually put up good numbers at one point in his career, with the Browns.

Leinart has been HORRIBLE in every chance he's gotten, with weapons like Fitz and Boldin...on a team where his replacement took the team to the Super Bowl.

No, Anderson didn't deserve that huge contract from Cleveland after one good year, but he was better than Brady Quinn (who isn't?) and he's better than Leinart too.

[U]Anderson[/U]: 2007 - 3,787 yds, 29 TDs, 19 INTs, 3 rushing TDs, 82.5 rating
Career = 46 TDs, 45 INTs

[U]Leinart's best year[/U]: 2006 - 2,547 tds, 11 TDs, 12 INTs, 2 rushing TDs, 74.0 rating
Career = 14 TDs, 20 INTs

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[quote=Buster;726460]Anderson has actually put up good numbers at one point in his career, with the Browns.

Leinart has been HORRIBLE in every chance he's gotten, with weapons like Fitz and Boldin...on a team where his replacement took the team to the Super Bowl.

No, Anderson didn't deserve that huge contract from Cleveland after one good year, but he was better than Brady Quinn (who isn't?) and he's better than Leinart too.

[U]Anderson[/U]: 2007 - 3,787 yds, 29 TDs, 19 INTs, 3 rushing TDs, 82.5 rating
Career = 46 TDs, 45 INTs

[U]Leinart's best year[/U]: 2006 - 2,547 tds, 11 TDs, 12 INTs, 2 rushing TDs, 74.0 rating
Career = 14 TDs, 20 INTs[/quote]

Still had 19 Ints and that was a fluke year, not saying Leinart is Kurt Warner but he's better than Derek Anderson

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OK, we'll let your heart tell you that, since feelings are more accurate than statistics.

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[quote=Buster;726468]OK, we'll let your heart tell you that, since feelings are more accurate than statistics.[/quote]

Did I say that?? Stats don't tell the whole story, both guys suck but if I had a choice Leinart is the less of two evils.

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Flip a coin between Leinart and Anderson. They both aren't very good. At least DA has somewhat of a track record in this league and has enjoyed some success. Leinart can't even nail down a starting job.

I think the Cards are going with DA because he will at least let it rip and go down the field. Leinart is known as Mr. Check Down. Not the best use of your weapons when you have Fitz, Breaston, Doucet, etc.

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[quote=SmootSmack;726055]Someone tell me why Marko's been cut by three teams in less than six months[/quote]


Politics....


Now that Kelly is gone, it would be nice to see him come back if just to find him a spot on the practice squad.

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[quote=Mattyk;726477]Flip a coin between Leinart and Anderson. They both aren't very good. At least DA has somewhat of a track record in this league and has enjoyed some success. Leinart can't even nail down a starting job.

[B]I think the Cards are going with DA because he will at least let it rip and go down the field. Leinart is known as Mr. Check Down. Not the best use of your weapons when you have Fitz, Breaston, Doucet, etc[/B].[/quote]

Yeah I think that's pretty much it.

Skelton's time will come soon enough

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[quote=SmootSmack;726483]Yeah I think that's pretty much it.

Skelton's time will come soon enough[/quote]

If Skelton comes through this whole convo is a moot point.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;726473]Did I say that?? Stats don't tell the whole story, both guys suck but if I had a choice Leinart is the less of two evils.[/quote]

Yes...

I'm not denying they're both mediocre-to-bad QBs...but I believe DA is the better of the two, and it seems the Cards' coaching staff and stats seem to agree.

Leinart has had so many chances, and flopped on all of them. They're giving him a longer leash than we gave Ramsey or Campbell. It's time to just cut their losses and move on.

USC QBs don't have a good track record in the NFL. Of Mark Sanchez, Carson Palmer, Matt Leinart, Sean Salisbury, Rodney Peete, Pat Haden, Matt Cassel, Bill Nelsen, Pete Beathard, Vince Evans, Paul McDonald, Todd Marinovich, Rob Johnson and John David Booty, only Carson Palmer has really had any extended success.

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[quote=Buster;726460]Anderson has actually put up good numbers at one point in his career, with the Browns.

Leinart has been HORRIBLE in every chance he's gotten, with weapons like Fitz and Boldin...on a team where his replacement took the team to the Super Bowl.

No, Anderson didn't deserve that huge contract from Cleveland after one good year, but he was better than Brady Quinn (who isn't?) and he's better than Leinart too.

[U]Anderson[/U]: 2007 - 3,787 yds, 29 TDs, 19 INTs, 3 rushing TDs, 82.5 rating
Career = 46 TDs, 45 INTs

[U]Leinart's best year[/U]: 2006 - 2,547 tds, 11 TDs, 12 INTs, 2 rushing TDs, 74.0 rating
Career = 14 TDs, 20 INTs[/quote]

Yeah, but we know Anderson's limits. And you have to remember in his best year, most of him numbers came in one game. Take away the Bengals game in 2007 and he has a QB rating of 79.

Leinart on the other hand knows the offense. He has 3 years of experience with it. On top of that he played well against the Saints in the playoffs last year after Warner went out. Further more he has had a solid preseason. Now either the Cardinals are putting way to much emphasis on preseason games, maybe even so much as game planning, or they just don't like Leinart.

All I know is that Leinart has at least shown enough to get the nod for the first quarter of the season. If things go stale then bring in Anderson, but until then see what you have in Leinart. I mean you need a game manager anyway, God knows he's capable of pulling that off.

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You have to hate the way Leinart is dealing with being demoted too.

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[quote=Mattyk;726537]You have to hate the way Leinart is dealing with being demoted too.[/quote]

If I'm the Cardinals I'm probably more upset if he says yeah that's cool. At least he's getting angry about it, saying he wants to be the starter. That's what you want to hear from your young QB

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[quote=SmootSmack;726541]If I'm the Cardinals I'm probably more upset if he says yeah that's cool. At least he's getting angry about it, saying he wants to be the starter. That's what you want to hear from your young QB[/quote]

He can be angry about it, but there's a right way to handle it too though. Sure he wants to be the starter, but he hasn't earned it. He doesn't seem to see that.

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[quote=SmootSmack;726541]If I'm the Cardinals I'm probably more upset if he says yeah that's cool. At least he's getting angry about it, saying he wants to be the starter. That's what you want to hear from your young QB[/quote]

"Yeah, film study was kind of cutting into my party time. So when they like told me that DA was gonna be the starter I was like 'yeah wicked bro.' I could use a trip to Cancun. Then I realized I was kind of banned from Cancun, so that was kind of a bummer. But hey there's always the Caribbean, nope banned from there to. Something about harboring a felon, an endangered species of fish, and a stick of dynamite by the coral reefs."

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[quote=Buster;726495]Yes...

I'm not denying they're both mediocre-to-bad QBs...but I believe DA is the better of the two, and it seems the Cards' coaching staff and stats seem to agree.

Leinart has had so many chances, and flopped on all of them. They're giving him a longer leash than we gave Ramsey or Campbell. It's time to just cut their losses and move on.

USC QBs don't have a good track record in the NFL. Of Mark Sanchez, Carson Palmer, Matt Leinart, Sean Salisbury, Rodney Peete, Pat Haden, Matt Cassel, Bill Nelsen, Pete Beathard, Vince Evans, Paul McDonald, Todd Marinovich, Rob Johnson and John David Booty, only Carson Palmer has really had any extended success.[/quote]

Carson Palmer is not a bad QB. Injuries are what has derailed him that past few years.

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[quote=Mattyk;726537]You have to hate the way Leinart is dealing with being demoted too.[/quote]

Yes and no, I guess it is a good thing he is fired up about losing and Smoot I understand your point you do want that fire out of a young Qb after he is demoted again, to second string.

BUT : keep that fire with the coaching staff, the players, and bring that back out onto the field and compete harder and better than you have before. Pratice throwing the ball into trash cans if helps, study harder in the film room, work on your mechanics, work with the coaches and try and get better.

DO NOT go to the media and act like a spoiled kid or an entitled player. The coaches in Arizona have spent the last 3 seasons grading and analyzing him in practice. They know what they are getting in Matt, if they were so thrilled with him and thought he was that IT guy to take over this team, they would have not brought in Derek Anderson.

His comment on I want to be traded to a team and start now in the NFL, well this guy does not really get the professional game at all. There are 32 teams in the NFL with only a handful of QBs in this league. All 31 teams in the NFL have QBs on thier rosters who have been working for the past 9 months trying to perfect the schemes, working with thier WR, TE and RBs, and understanding there coaches. If you look at every team in the NFL right now they do know who will be starting QB for there team in week 1. If anyone can name a team where you know Matt Lienert would go in there and start right away, I would love to know who it is.

The guy does not have it. He may one day, but I highly doubt it.

:soapbox:

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Leinart is a huge spoiled child. Someone mentioned on an earlier post on this thread defending Leinart that he has been in this offense for three years. Well he has and his COACH picked the guy they recently got and is still getting comfortable in the system. That says it all.
Leinart and his fans are still living in the past, when he was on a loaded USC team that could have won it with out him. He needs to stop acting like a child and be a man. His play is what got him demoted, not his coach. He acts like he is being cheated.

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Why do we need another WR? And Mitchell? Draft a WR in the next two drafts. And Patrick Ramsey? You guys gave me hell for even bringing up the idea of bringing Frerotte in as the #3 QB. At least Gus made the Pro Bowl once, and he was a 7th round draftee. Ramsey was the #3 QB in what was supposed to be the best crop of QBs coming out of college in awhile, and they all were busts. IF I am not mistake, didn't Gus play for Shanny also?

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[quote=Mattyk;726544]He can be angry about it, but there's a right way to handle it too though. Sure he wants to be the starter, but he hasn't earned it. He doesn't seem to see that.[/quote]


He is a Prima Dona for sure. Remember him and Bush hanging out with all that Hollywood glitter. Guy had tons of hot babes served on a platter, didin't have to do anything. He is MR Wonderful. Guy played on a loaded team in a crappy conference, which assured USC of at least 11 wins.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;726710]Why do we need another WR? And Mitchell? Draft a WR in the next two drafts. And Patrick Ramsey? You guys gave me hell for even bringing up the idea of bringing Frerotte in as the #3 QB. At least Gus made the Pro Bowl once, and he was a 7th round draftee. Ramsey was the #3 QB in what was supposed to be the best crop of QBs coming out of college in awhile, and they all were busts. IF I am not mistake, didn't Gus play for Shanny also?[/quote]

Who seriously said anything about bringing in Patrick Ramsey?

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Hopefully, there will be some good, serviceable OL cut. I would think our FO would still like to upgrade there. Anyone heard anything?

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[quote=SmootSmack;726716]Who seriously said anything about bringing in Patrick Ramsey?[/quote]

Maybe we should bring in Patrick Ramsey.

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[quote=theJBexperience;726751]Hopefully, there will be some good, serviceable OL cut. I would think our FO would still like to upgrade there. Anyone heard anything?[/quote]

I think our FO did a good job of upgrading our OL. I re-watched the Jets game, and our 2nd string did a decent job against NYs first string DLine. If we are looking at anything, it will be WR's

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[quote=SmootSmack;726716]Who seriously said anything about bringing in Patrick Ramsey?[/quote]

He just wanted another reason to bring up Gus in his usual glowing manner.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;726795]I think our FO did a good job of upgrading our OL. I re-watched the Jets game, and our 2nd string did a decent job against NYs first string DLine. If we are looking at anything, it will be WR's[/quote]
I agree. Last year it was the weakest link (though wr and return teams are close) but know I think it's a strength. IMO we'd be much better with a healthy Mike Williams but Jamal Brown, Trent Williams, Artis Hicks, Selvish Capers and Lichtensteiger (sp?) all are all upgrades. As for wr, I think we have enough depth at wr but no playmakers.

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So you guys feel like we're not running the ball all that well because of our RBs?

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[quote=theJBexperience;726826]So you guys feel like we're not running the ball all that well because of our RBs?[/quote]

No, I feel that once the season starts, the running game will pick up considerably

[QUOTE=theJBexperience;726826]So you guys feel like we're not running the ball all that well because of our RBs?[/QUOTE]

I believe a lot had to do with the fact that the other team had the #1 rush defense last year and they were run and gap blitzing nearly every play. Add to that the fact that we didn't see much help from lead blockers - because the coaches were evaluating individual blockers and RBs , I would have been shocked if we had seen large gains in the running game. Also I counted at least 4 big play deep balls where the qb had time to deliver and either the qb or receiver just missed it.
As Rabach and Rex both said this team is focusing on and studying Dallas. So to answer your question, I think run blocking could have been better and would have if the game had counted but based on the level and quality of the last two opponents I am confident our OL won't be the same swinging gate it was last year.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;726832]No, I feel that once the season starts, the running game will pick up considerably[/quote]

Agreed. By design I don't think the running game has been a big area of focus in these preseason games.

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Interesting and comforting.

The OL only looked good against the Bills, and I thought that success had to do more with it being against an inferior opponent.

Aren't the coaches supposed to be taking a long look at DT tonight? I hope he rises to the occasion.

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i feel we need another servicable OL and I think we should be actively looking for a WR

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[quote=Buster;726460]Anderson has actually put up good numbers at one point in his career, with the Browns.

Leinart has been HORRIBLE in every chance he's gotten, with weapons like Fitz and Boldin...on a team where his replacement took the team to the Super Bowl.

No, Anderson didn't deserve that huge contract from Cleveland after one good year, but he was better than Brady Quinn (who isn't?) and he's better than Leinart too.

[U]Anderson[/U]: 2007 - 3,787 yds, 29 TDs, 19 INTs, 3 rushing TDs, 82.5 rating
Career = 46 TDs, 45 INTs

[U]Leinart's best year[/U]: 2006 - 2,547 tds, 11 TDs, 12 INTs, 2 rushing TDs, 74.0 rating
Career = 14 TDs, 20 INTs[/quote]If you're going to use stats, you do have to be responsible enough to not decide your argument before you go to them. I haven't looked, but I'm guessing -- just a "hunch" -- that the reason that you gave us full developmental year totals, but stopped at career TD/INT rate wasn't because lunch was getting cold. I'm guessing its because, career, Leinart either compares favorably to or just embarrasses Derek Anderson.

/[URL="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AndeDe00.htm"]checks[/URL] [URL="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LeinMa00.htm"]PFR[/URL]

All numbers career:

[U]Completion percentage[/U]
Leinart -- 57%
Anderson -- 53%

[U]QB Rating
[/U]Leinart -- 70.8
Anderson -- 69.7

[U]Sack Rate
[/U]Anderson -- 4.1% (probably the one thing Anderson does really well)
Leinart -- 4.6%

[U]Interception Rate
[/U]Leinart -- 3.4%
Anderson -- 4.1%

[U]TD Rate
[/U]Anderson -- 4.1%
Leinart -- 2.4%

[U]Yards Per Attempt
[/U]Leinart -- 6.5
Anderson -- 6.4

[U]Adjusted Net Yards Per Attempt
[/U]Leinart -- 4.9
Anderson -- 4.9

Clearly, at best, they are equals of each other, and there's no argument based on past evidence to suggest Anderson is better (perhaps that Cardinals O>Browns O, but even that, I mean don't forget about how bad Denny Green's Cards teams were). Leinart leads in all categories that are statistically stable, with the exception of sack rate.

But it's not like Leinart is taking a ton of sacks, he's actually above average if not as good as Anderson. Problem is, when Anderson does throw the ball, bad things tend to happen.

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For those saying we need another OL, who would you want, and who would you replace:
1st string - Not going to be cut or replaced with anyone coming through these next waivers
LT T Williams
LG D Dockery
C C Rabach
RG A Hicks
LT J Brown

2nd String- Possibly cut or replaced
LT W Robinson
LG none listed
C K Licht
RG C Rinehart
RT S Heyer

Practice Squad -my guess - also could replace Heyer/Rinehart
Capers, Cook

Cut(my guess)
Will Montgomery, Oldenburg.

I just don't know enough other guys out there to say the Skins ought to get this player, and they will be a substantial improvement over these players. I think it would be more of a "fan-think" move to replace a player just because our OL last year stunk.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;726959]If you're going to use stats, you do have to be responsible enough to not decide your argument before you go to them. I haven't looked, but I'm guessing -- just a "hunch" -- that the reason that you gave us full developmental year totals, but stopped at career TD/INT rate wasn't because lunch was getting cold. I'm guessing its because, career, Leinart either compares favorably to or just embarrasses Derek Anderson.

/[URL="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AndeDe00.htm"]checks[/URL] [URL="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LeinMa00.htm"]PFR[/URL]

All numbers career:

[U]Completion percentage[/U]
Leinart -- 57%
Anderson -- 53%

[U]QB Rating
[/U]Leinart -- 70.8
Anderson -- 69.7

[U]Sack Rate
[/U]Anderson -- 4.1% (probably the one thing Anderson does really well)
Leinart -- 4.6%

[U]Interception Rate
[/U]Leinart -- 3.4%
Anderson -- 4.1%

[U]TD Rate
[/U]Anderson -- 4.1%
Leinart -- 2.4%

[U]Yards Per Attempt
[/U]Leinart -- 6.5
Anderson -- 6.4

[U]Adjusted Net Yards Per Attempt
[/U]Leinart -- 4.9
Anderson -- 4.9

Clearly, at best, they are equals of each other, and there's no argument based on past evidence to suggest Anderson is better (perhaps that Cardinals O>Browns O, but even that, I mean don't forget about how bad Denny Green's Cards teams were). Leinart leads in all categories that are statistically stable, with the exception of sack rate.

But it's not like Leinart is taking a ton of sacks, he's actually above average if not as good as Anderson. Problem is, when Anderson does throw the ball, bad things tend to happen.[/QUOTE]

One huge factor in QB stat comparison is Leinart played on a good playoff Cardinal team and Anderson played on one of the worst teams in the NFL. Throwing to Boldin and Fitzy is a little easier.
I understand the need to compare stats, especially with QB's. But as we have mentioned so many times before stats are a just a fraction of the entire picture. Especially with QB's.
What I mean by that is Leinart or any Qb completes a 10 yard reception which statically is a big positive. But what gets missed is on that same play another receiver was running wide open for 20 yards further down and woud have been an easy TD and coaches will grade that as a big minus. It was a major blown opportunity. It is what the QB's do with the ball and where they choose to throw it to that is not reflected in the stats and is what is downgrading Leinart the checkdown king. It is not just TD's, Int's, and completion %'s and all the other stats.
When I watch Leinart play I am nor impressed at all. Regardless of Anderson.
Leinart is not comfortable and does not see the entire NFL field.

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[quote=Defensewins;726971]One huge factor in QB stat comparison is Leinart played on a good playoff Cardinal team and Anderson played on one of the worst teams in the NFL. Throwing to Boldin and Fitzy is a little easier.
I understand the need to compare stats, especially with QB's. But as we have mentioned so many times before stats are a just a fraction of the entire picture. Especially with QB's.
What I mean by that is Leinart or any Qb can completes a 10 yard completion which statically is a big positive. But what gets missed is on that same play another reciever was running wide open for 20 yards further down and woud have been an easy TD and coaches will grade that as a big minus. It was a major blown opportunity. It is what the QB's do with the ball and where they choose to throw it to that is not reflected in the stats and is what is downgrading Leinart the checkdown king. It is not just TD's, Int's, and completion %'s and all the other stats.
When I watch Leinart play I am nor impressed at all. Regardless of Anderson.
Leinart is not comfortable and does not see the entire NFL field.[/quote]It could be seen as nitpicking, but it's not: Leinart didn't play on a good Cardinals team. He was the backup QB on a good Cardinals team, who started just one game on two teams that went to the playoffs. Leinart played on a Cardinals team every bit as bad as the worst Browns teams in the last decade, and a lot worse than the 2007 Browns offense, which was pretty good independent of it's quarterback, if only for ten games. Boldin was already a very good receiver when Leinart got in (and his stats reflect that), but Fitzgerald became an elite player in the 2008 playoffs, well after Leinart was buried, and certainly not because of Leinart.

I also really don't like the argument about quarterbacks seeing the field or not. Didn't like it with Campbell, and don't like it with Leinart because it assumes far too much. Even if there is a field vision problem, the only thing that fans can do (and game tape does not help with this) is presuppose that it's correct. And that's fallacious thinking.

For example, I can say from game tape that Mark Sanchez absolutely can't throw to his left. He's terrible there, both on film and on the stat sheet. There's nothing, however, to suggest that he has a vision problem to the left side. That's possible, but assuming as much would be wrong.

With that said, Leinart likely is who he is. He's a very good backup in this league, and probably a marginal starter. He may just be Jason Campbell, without the running ability to extend drives when you have coverages that can take away your best targets on third down. And ultimately, the Cards are going to have to try to improve on that.

But I disagree with Ken Whisenhunt (who has certainly earned the right to guess wrong at least once with his QB) that this decision can be made independent of Derek Anderson. Because that's who you have. I don't think he's necessarily wrong on Leinart, but this is how you take the revenue gained from at least making the playoffs in an absolute gimme division, and cost your franchise that revenue: by making decisions like this one.

And I think your points here are good ones: the best QBs take their shots at the deeper plays when they need to. But while it's safe to assume that Larry Fitzgerald is going to get open downfield a couple times a game no matter what coverage the other teams play, it's not going to be Derek Anderson's added ability to find him that makes the difference in the Cards season. It's going to be the negative plays that Anderson routinely makes on plays where Fitzgerald is well-covered that will have them losing a game for every one they win.