Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

Correct me if i am wrong but i see 3 unnamed sources, then a hypothetical situation of not playing him against Dallas. Any actual Redskin FO that said this?

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

If he shows up and plays Shanahan wins. Besides $$$ there is no loss on the part of Shanahan and management as far as what they have been doing thus far. I'm fine with making Haynesworth's life as miserable as possible until he decides to either give the money back in order to be let out of his contract or straightens out and becomes a team player.

Should be interesting to see how all this plays out. If he half asses it all the way, he's going to get suspended, lose payday money and the Skins can go after the signing bonus. F*ck Albert Haynesworth, he can eat sh*t and die for all I care. Don't cut that fat f*ck!

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

I believe some of it may be taken out of context. With a little gamesmanship thrown in.

By not "starting" AH, you keep him well rested for the second half when Dallas scores most of its points against a "tired" defense.

I'm guessing Shanny is gonna keep AH rested and let him be fresh to wreak havoc against the Dallas front 4.

They did not say he would not play, just that he would not start. And that is jsut as imposing too.

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

[quote=sandtrapjack;728503]I believe some of it may be taken out of context. With a little gamesmanship thrown in.

By not "starting" AH, you keep him well rested for the second half when Dallas scores most of its points against a "tired" defense.

I'm guessing Shanny is gonna keep AH rested and let him be fresh to wreak havoc against the Dallas front 4.

They did not say he would not play, just that he would not start. And that is jsut as imposing too.[/quote]

Dallas has no prayer in hell of winning Sunday with or without Haynesworth.

HTTR :httr:

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

All the reports are "Haynesworth is unlikely to start against the cowboys" NOT Haynesworth is not going to play vs cowboys, theres a big difference there. So its no surprise that he may not start, because Shanahan said he has to earn it...Just another slow news day at ESPN...

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

I guess after he steamrolled Faneca, he felt he had nothing to prove. He probably felt bad that he embarrassed the guy.

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

[quote=saden1;728504]Dallas has no prayer in hell of winning Sunday with or without Haynesworth.

HTTR :httr:[/quote]

i love it baby! hail!

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

[quote=diehard;728506][B]I guess after he steamrolled Faneca[/B], he felt he had nothing to prove. He probably felt bad that he embarrassed the guy.[/quote]

:rofl:

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[quote=saden1;728504]dallas has no prayer in hell of winning sunday with or without haynesworth.

Httr :httr:[/quote]
[size=5]httr........[/size]

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

Does anyone else suspect a motivational reason for all this negative publicity for AH? I mean the man is being ridiculed in public on a daily basis.

Gotta wonder which way this will go. I think he'll come into the 'Pokes game chewing nails looking to stomp on someone's head. On the other hand, all this noise might just shut him down completely...

We'll see Sunday -- can't wait!

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[quote=Mattyk;728469][URL="http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/17808/the-albert-smear-campaign-continues"]The Albert smear campaign continues - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/URL]

I tend to agree with this article, why not just release the guy and move on with a clean slate?[/quote]

They're not going to pay the guy 32 mil for one year and let him walk. Not gonna happen. He's playing here or no where.

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

[quote=SCRedskinsFan;728600]Does anyone else suspect a motivational reason for all this negative publicity for AH? I mean the man is being ridiculed in public on a daily basis.

Gotta wonder which way this will go. I think he'll come into the 'Pokes game chewing nails [B]looking to stomp on someone's head.[/B] On the other hand, all this noise might just shut him down completely...

We'll see Sunday -- can't wait![/quote]
Gawd, not again!

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

I personally think Shanny has got to let up. This has gone on the entire preseason, and he's proven a point. Haynesworth is supposedly still one of our best defensive players. We KNOW he'd play hard if he's given the starting role.

Just like someone has said, this is strangely very similar to the treatment of Lavar Arrington. A puzzling year where a good player was benched because of clashes with coaches / lack of commitment to the schemes.

I figured once they were joking with each other, they'd let bygones be bygones.

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

[quote=sandtrapjack;728603]Gawd, not again![/quote]

Sorry Sandtrap -- nothing personal.

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

[quote=skinsfan69;728602]They're not going to pay the guy 32 mil for one year and let him walk. Not gonna happen. He's playing here or no where.[/quote]

So I guess they'd rather just continue with this soap opera and pay the guy to ride the pine?

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If he's not part of their plans I really wish they would just move on and cut him loose.

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

[quote=Mattyk;728630]So I guess they'd rather just continue with this soap opera and pay the guy to ride the pine?

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If he's not part of their plans I really wish they would just move on and cut him loose.[/quote]

This is why I put this mess more on the team. Not that I'm defending Haynesworth at all, he deserves all that he has gotten. But, if Mike Shanahan wants to continue to stick it to the guy, and prove a point he proved several weeks ago, just cut the guy loose and cut your loses. We could have be done and over with a long time ago if they had traded him or just release him.

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

[quote=Mattyk;728630]So I guess they'd rather just continue with this soap opera and pay the guy to ride the pine?

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If he's not part of their plans I really wish they would just move on and cut him loose.[/quote]

Maybe they're looking to get a return on their investment. Letting him walk isn't the smart business move. Yeah I'd like to get rid of this malcontent but it's not my money. If I owned the team he wouldn't be going anywhere so I can understand the front office' position.

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

[quote=skinsfan69;728701]Maybe they're looking to get a return on their investment. Letting him walk isn't the smart business move. Yeah I'd like to get rid of this malcontent but it's not my money. If I owned the team he wouldn't be going anywhere so I can understand the front office' position.[/quote]

Trading him or cutting him would get rid of this soap opera. I don't understand why Shanahan insist on making this an issue. At this point it's all on them.

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Old FAT AL is just a POS. I had one of my boys that lives in the DC/MD area at the house this am. One of his best friends lives in the same community with FAT AL for whatever its worth he was stating that FAT AL is on the boat drinking with his boys creating havoc all hours of the night and he was a 100% POS in the community where they live.

For some reason it came as no surprise. At this point I really can't wait till this cancer is run outta this town.

RI-

Posted at 2:34 PM ET, 09/ 6/2010

[B]Defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth was not taking any snaps with the starters. As the team went through its nickel packages, it appeared that Haynesworth had been bumped from first to second string.[/B]

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

[quote=Ruhskins;728687]This is why I put this mess more on the team. Not that I'm defending Haynesworth at all, he deserves all that he has gotten. But, if Mike Shanahan wants to continue to stick it to the guy, and prove a point he proved several weeks ago, just cut the guy loose and cut your loses.[B] We could have be done and over with a long time ago if they had traded him or just release him.[/quote][/B]

His value is at an all time low and everyone knows it. Detroit has a terrible defense and they didn't even want the guy. Jim Swartz knows he's a big pain in the ass first hand. If they're not taking him then who else would?? Right now the only thing to do is keep him.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/06/haynesworth-expected-to-play-but-probably-wont-play-much/]Haynesworth expected to play, but probably won't play much | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

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[quote=skinsfan69;728709][/B]

His value is at an all time low and everyone knows it. Detroit has a terrible defense and they didn't even want the guy. Jim Swartz knows he's a big pain in the ass first hand. If they're not taking him then who else would?? Right now the only thing to do is keep him.[/quote]

During the draft it seems that our asking price was too high for a trade. Jim Schwartz already has a dominant DT in Suh, so no need to get AH.

I don't mind keeping him, but at this point the team needs to figure out a way to get the most out of him, and they are not doing that. If this keeps going, the team will be force to cut their loses and release him.

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

[quote=Ruhskins;728705]Trading him or cutting him would get rid of this soap opera. I don't understand why Shanahan insist on making this an issue. At this point it's all on them.[/quote]Becuase this is what the Owners want ,this is what other players want .....it was talked about before, BA has wrecked it for every player who ever thought they would get a contract like his.Shanahan is sending a message and from his silence ...Dan Snyder fully agrees.

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

Surprisingly, there's no rush of articles after practice when Shanny said that Haynesworth played hard and did some good things in the Arizona game.. He's going to play a good number of snaps on Sunday, especially with 2 starting OL out for the Cowboys.. Shanny's made his point but he's not going to scuttle the season over this guy.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;728714][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/06/haynesworth-expected-to-play-but-probably-wont-play-much/"]Haynesworth expected to play, but probably won't play much | ProFootballTalk.com[/URL][/quote]


[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/albert-haynesworth/source-albert-haynesworth-will.html?wprss=redskinsinsider]Redskins Insider - Source: Albert Haynesworth will play vs. Dallas[/url]

Well according to this article Haslett will actually have specific plays in place for AH to contribute. Now if you are not going to play a player very much do you actually have plays specific for this man to make plays??

Quit fueling the media jet PFT. Do you guys actually report on things that are fact or just come up with your own sh#t.:spank:

Wow........

Also MS tried to defuse the situation from the report on Saturday about AH being "awful", by stating that he did some good things and he is in much better shape now then he was coming into camp.

The media will never let this story go.

AH go out there and be a beast Sunday and shut everyone up please. :food-smil

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

The media knows bashing Haynesworth sells, some in the media are whores and made a name for themselves by writing this factually incorrect article.
I have been saying this since Haynesworth missed minicamp. I am not surprised by this cheap and unprofessional tactic.
Haslett, Shanahan and Haynesworth did not go through this shit storm just to release him at this point. That would be very stupid.
Remember around draft time JLC guaranteed Haynesworth would not be a skin in 2010.
He and several others have had to eat crow.
So now they take shots at him whenever they can....just like some on this sight.

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

Shanny said today that most of the AH rumors are false

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;728853][url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/albert-haynesworth/source-albert-haynesworth-will.html?wprss=redskinsinsider]Redskins Insider - Source: Albert Haynesworth will play vs. Dallas[/url]

Well according to this article Haslett will actually have specific plays in place for AH to contribute. Now if you are not going to play a player very much do you actually have plays specific for this man to make plays??

Quit fueling the media jet PFT. Do you guys actually report on things that are fact or just come up with your own sh#t.:spank:

Wow........

Also MS tried to defuse the situation from the report on Saturday about AH being "awful", by stating that he did some good things and he is in much better shape now then he was coming into camp.

The media will never let this story go.

[U][B]AH go out there and be a beast Sunday and shut everyone up please[/U][/B]. :food-smil[/quote]


Yeah right. Albert go out and stand there huffin and puffin with your hands on your knees to lazy to even get in a stance. While everyone else is in shape busting there tail. But idk who im more po'd at AH for having such a gift and whiping his arse with it. Or Danny boy for agreeing to such a worthless deal. I sure do miss guys like Joe Salevea, Big Griff, Ant Mo, Demetric Evans, Kedrick G., and yes even Ryan Boscheti.
Yeah Albert go out there and be a beast, and try to get a few of the hard working Americans that you disrespect by being such a poop to forgive you.

Man i loved what Bugges said in one of his retirement interviews on what he used to tell some of the players. "we fly over place like NY, Pittsburg, and Phili, where hard works live and they want to see tough football" . Yeah you go getem Albert. WTFever be realistic.

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

So is that the kind of attitude you are rooty for Crusty?

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

[quote=CrustyRedskin;728865]Yeah right. Albert go out and stand there huffin and puffin with your hands on your knees to lazy to even get in a stance. While everyone else is in shape busting there tail. But idk who im more po'd at AH for having such a gift and whiping his arse with it. Or Danny boy for agreeing to such a worthless deal. I sure do miss guys like Joe Salevea, Big Griff, Ant Mo, Demetric Evans, Kedrick G., and yes even Ryan Boscheti.
Yeah Albert go out there and be a beast, and try to get a few of the hard working Americans that you disrespect by being such a poop to forgive you.

Man i loved what Bugges said in one of his retirement interviews on what he used to tell some of the players. "we fly over place like NY, Pittsburg, and Phili, where hard works live and they want to see tough football" . Yeah you go getem Albert. WTFever be realistic.[/quote]

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;728865]Yeah right. Albert go out and stand there huffin and puffin with your hands on your knees to lazy to even get in a stance. While everyone else is in shape busting there tail. But idk who im more po'd at AH for having such a gift and whiping his arse with it. Or Danny boy for agreeing to such a worthless deal. I sure do miss guys like Joe Salevea, Big Griff, Ant Mo, Demetric Evans, Kedrick G., and yes even Ryan Boscheti.
Yeah Albert go out there and be a beast, and try to get a few of the hard working Americans that you disrespect by being such a poop to forgive you.

Man i loved what Bugges said in one of his retirement interviews on what he used to tell some of the players. "we fly over place like NY, Pittsburg, and Phili, where hard works live and they want to see tough football" . Yeah you go getem Albert. WTFever be realistic.[/quote]

Crusty, your name is spelled wrong.


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Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

So what are all the Haynesworth haters going to do when he plays the whole game against Dallas?

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;728907]So what are all the Haynesworth haters going to do when he plays the whole game against Dallas?[/quote]

Uhhhhh Haynesworth has never played the "whole game" in his entire life.

Anyways I hope he gets in for at least half of the defensive snaps, but I kind of doubt it.

Or he will be in the starting lineup and this was all just a Shanahan smokescreen.

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

Or maybe they'll play him when he's not tired. And maybe he'll give an effort because it's a regular season game, and not the second half of the 4th preseason game with a bunch of guys who aren't about to be cut playing beside him. And maybe after week 1 headlines will read: Haynesworth plays, makes impact. And then maybe this whole shit will finally die.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;728907]So what are all the Haynesworth haters going to do when he plays the whole game against Dallas?[/quote]


What will you do if he does'nt?

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;728868]So is that the kind of attitude you are rooty for Crusty?[/quote]

My attitude is great its Dallas week baby!!! Maybe i'll owe AH an apology Monday morning but i doubt it... Don't yall know how this is all going to play out??

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;728907]So what are all the Haynesworth haters going to do when he plays the whole game against Dallas?[/quote]

I'm not a hater but I'm not thinking all this drama is going to suddenly go away either.

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It's not going away, because at this point there can be no "winner". AH is to prideful to let the media think that MS "broke" him, and MS certainly is never going to come out and make nice. I really thought that the whole cigar joke gave a good point to re-start the situation (and I think it did) but there are media types, and apparently sources, who want to fan this all season long.

Last year AH played a large percentage of D snaps (i think the most but don't know the specific stat) and yet he gets hammered for not playing every snap. So what if he is not the starter, our nickel back isn't a starter but he sure is critical to winning these games.

I only hope that AH, MS, and Haslett are being pros about this and Sunday night they all perform to the best of their abilities. I tend to think they will.

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;728907]So what are all the Haynesworth haters going to do when he plays the whole game against Dallas?[/quote]

well that's probably not going to happen. but all this crap will go away if al justs plays the defense, plays hard and makes some plays...which he should be able to do against a weak Dallas line.

Re: Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas
 

Haynesworth doesn't know how to play in a 3-4? I know its more complicated than this, but can we just put him in at NT and tell him to push the Center back into Romo's face on every play? That would work for me. Oh, and throw your big arm out and closeline Felix Jones everytime he comes between the center and the guard. :)