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cpayne5 09-16-2010 09:43 PM

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[quote=mredskins;734444]oh ok, i bet car max will give me 16 or 17

i could sell it on my own for 18 19 maybe 20.

I am willing to bet it is not the wheel bearings that is way to easy diagnose they would have easily said it was that right off the top. Plus my guy shook each rear tire in front of me and they were solid as a rock.[/quote]

Yeah, I know. Was just messing with you about the $5k. :)

mredskins 09-16-2010 09:45 PM

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[quote=cpayne5;734447]Yeah, but crap happens.[/quote]


I agree but if i walk in there tomr and they are like it $2k and they don't stand by their product F..Toyota.

mredskins 09-16-2010 09:48 PM

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This is my truck with a V6 sports edition cpayne if you want lets talk dollars

[IMG]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR5ZdvAejtbkKnG6qiq8UsHUTRurmBTfCUhHTsqngncnxW7RV0&t=1&usg=__EXLlU2hCJjAxmYlZyGEJ2XGC6eU=[/IMG]

She is mint and been babied sans the current problem.

has new brakes front and back and the tires cross contact continentals have about 8k miles on them

cpayne5 09-16-2010 09:53 PM

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[quote=mredskins;734449]I agree but if i walk in there tomr and they are like it $2k and they don't stand by their product F..Toyota.[/quote]

Don't stop at the dealer if they say no. Go up the chain to regional. Be calm, be nice, and they may make it right. They are trying real hard to maintain their reputation.

cpayne5 09-16-2010 09:55 PM

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[quote=mredskins;734452]This is my truck with a V6 sports edition cpayne if you want lets talk dollars

[IMG]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR5ZdvAejtbkKnG6qiq8UsHUTRurmBTfCUhHTsqngncnxW7RV0&t=1&usg=__EXLlU2hCJjAxmYlZyGEJ2XGC6eU=[/IMG]

She is mint and been babied sans the current problem.

has new brakes front and back and the tires cross contact continentals have about 8k miles on them[/quote]

I'd love to, but I can't. Too many vehicles (and not enough garage space) as is. I'll buy another one one day, but not any time soon, probably. Whoever buys yours will get a great vehicle.

mredskins 09-16-2010 10:03 PM

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i also like to say the new Grand Cherokee is awesome!

Hog1 09-16-2010 10:03 PM

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[quote=cpayne5;734447]Yeah, but crap happens.[/quote]
Maybe it's a Friday car?

mredskins 09-16-2010 10:05 PM

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[quote=Hog1;734461]Maybe it's a Friday car?[/quote]


There are no Fridays in Japan!

mredskins 09-16-2010 10:10 PM

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cpayne you like the new runners, ugly imo i actually like gen 3 best

Hog1 09-16-2010 10:25 PM

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[quote=mredskins;734463]There are no Fridays in Japan![/quote]
Clever Sons of Nippon.........

cpayne5 09-16-2010 10:34 PM

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[quote=mredskins;734465]cpayne you like the new runners, ugly imo i actually like gen 3 best[/quote]

I don't mind the new ones. I'd be all over a Trail Edition if I could get the 4.6 in it. Hopefully they'll put the 4.6 in the 4Runners in the next couple years.

I like the v6 4th gen 4runners the best. The 3.4 v6's having timing belts, which I hate, and they were underpowered. Other than that, they were great. I just wouldn't fall over myself trying to get one.

Monkeydad 09-17-2010 11:41 AM

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[quote=mredskins;734444]oh ok, i bet car max will give me 16 or 17

i could sell it on my own for 18 19 maybe 20.

I am willing to bet it is not the wheel bearings that is way to easy diagnose they would have easily said it was that right off the top.[B] Plus my guy shook each rear tire in front of me and they were solid as a rock.[/B][/quote]

Holy crap...find a new mechanic.

Wheels will not be loose from bad wheel bearings. The main symptom of bad bearings is a droning, loud noise when moving...that will increase in volume as the speed increases. I bought a Jetta that sounded like an 18-wheeler...changed the wheel bearings...smooth, silent ride.

(I hope you were joking) :cheeky-sm

cpayne5 09-17-2010 12:04 PM

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[quote=Buster;734604]Holy crap...find a new mechanic.

Wheels will not be loose from bad wheel bearings. The main symptom of bad bearings is a droning, loud noise when moving...that will increase in volume as the speed increases. I bought a Jetta that sounded like an 18-wheeler...changed the wheel bearings...smooth, silent ride.

(I hope you were joking) :cheeky-sm[/quote]

Yes, absolutely a bad wheel bearing can cause the wheel to have play in it, or "loose" as some say. Noise is the most obvious sign, but so is play at the wheel.

Also, I find it funny that you own a Jetta.

mredskins 09-17-2010 12:18 PM

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[quote=Buster;734604]Holy crap...find a new mechanic.

Wheels will not be loose from bad wheel bearings. The main symptom of bad bearings is a droning, loud noise when moving...that will increase in volume as the speed increases. I bought a Jetta that sounded like an 18-wheeler...changed the wheel bearings...smooth, silent ride.

(I hope you were joking) :cheeky-sm[/quote]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqbc7Ld7cvY]YouTube - Bad Wheel Bearing[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azlYjaD47zU&feature=related]YouTube - Bad Wheel Bearing[/ame]

BTW going on the 24th hour and still no response fro mthe dealership as to what they are going to do. They are stilling deciding the problem. Unbelievable.

I want it back now to drive it down to CARMAX I see a 09 BMW that I really want.

Monkeydad 09-17-2010 12:40 PM

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Wow, those are extremely bad cases. The most common symptom is the noise.

mredskins 09-17-2010 12:54 PM

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[quote=Buster;734635]Wow, those are extremely bad cases. The most common symptom is the noise.[/quote]


If you are hearing it in the car it is going to do that when you put it on a lift.

cpayne5 09-17-2010 12:56 PM

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[quote=mredskins;734642]If you are hearing it in the car it is going to do that when you put it on a lift.[/quote]

If they're really bad, yes, but not all the time.

CRedskinsRule 09-17-2010 01:19 PM

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cpayne, are you an auto mechanic or a toyota rep? I am just wondering, you seem very knowledgeable, but a little biased towards Toyota.

mredskins 09-17-2010 01:32 PM

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[quote=cpayne5;734643]If they're really bad, yes, but not all the time.[/quote]


So final answer left rear wheel bearing replaced under warranty; so both cpanye and buster were correct on the no wiggle.

I have gone to NOVA CC in Manassa for my associates in Automotive so I know some stuff but I am no expert.

MTK 09-17-2010 02:38 PM

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[quote=cpayne5;734622]Yes, absolutely a bad wheel bearing can cause the wheel to have play in it, or "loose" as some say. Noise is the most obvious sign, but so is play at the wheel.

[B]Also, I find it funny that you own a Jetta[/B].[/quote]

I didn't realize he was a chicken head either lol

Monkeydad 09-17-2010 03:12 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;734649]cpayne, are you an auto mechanic or a toyota rep? I am just wondering, you seem very knowledgeable, but a little biased towards Toyota.[/quote]

A [U]little[/U]?

:laughing-

Monkeydad 09-17-2010 03:12 PM

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[quote=cpayne5;734622]Yes, absolutely a bad wheel bearing can cause the wheel to have play in it, or "loose" as some say. Noise is the most obvious sign, but so is play at the wheel.

Also, I find it funny that you own a Jetta.[/quote]

Owned it 12 years ago, in college. :cheeky-sm


Driven American cars since. I find it amusing that you drive Jap crap.

cpayne5 09-17-2010 03:51 PM

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[quote=Buster;734688]Owned it 12 years ago, in college. :cheeky-sm


Driven American cars since. I find it amusing that you drive Jap crap.[/quote]

I own 3 japanese cars (truly manufactured in Japan) and two american cars. I enjoy all cars. I have certain preferences, but I don't hate on others who may not share the same tastes. At the end of the day I'd rather feel good about what I like than angry about what you like. You should try it sometime.

Monkeydad 09-17-2010 03:52 PM

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[quote=cpayne5;734701]I own 3 japanese cars (truly manufactured in Japan) and two american cars. I enjoy all cars. I have certain preferences, but I don't hate on others who may not share the same tastes. [/quote]

Nah, you just troll the Ford threads. :food-smil

cpayne5 09-17-2010 03:57 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;734649]cpayne, are you an auto mechanic or a toyota rep? I am just wondering, you seem very knowledgeable, but a little biased towards Toyota.[/quote]

Nope, I'm a software engineer. :)

I just love cars and I love working on them in my free time.

[B]I have ever only owned one Toyota.[/B] Buster's Toyota hatred is notorious (do a search for 'Toyota' on this site and no doubt you'll find a myriad of posts where Buster is trying his best to bash them). I feel that I need to set the record straight whenever he throws out his "facts". Not because I'm a diehard Toyota kool-aid drinker, but because I think it's the right thing to do.

Edit at 7:30pm
*I take back the bolded above. We owned another. My wife bought a brand new Scion tC (a Toyota brand) when they first came out. She drove it for 6 months, decided it wasn't for her, and we traded it for a new Jeep.*

cpayne5 09-17-2010 04:00 PM

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[quote=Buster;734702]Nah, you just troll the Ford threads. :food-smil[/quote]

Show me a post in a Ford thread here where I "trolled".

Like I said, I like all cars. I was up your way on June 5th. Go check out what was going on at the Carlisle Fairgrounds that day. ;)

mredskins 09-17-2010 04:12 PM

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[quote=cpayne5;734707]Show me a post in a Ford thread here where I "trolled".

Like I said, I like all cars. I was up your way on June 5th. Go check out what was going on at the Carlisle Fairgrounds that day. ;)[/quote]


Isn't that Corvette week?

cpayne5 09-17-2010 04:37 PM

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[quote=mredskins;734711]Isn't that Corvette week?[/quote]

No, it was Ford Nationals. :)

mredskins 09-17-2010 07:41 PM

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[B]UPDATE[/B]

So they did the wheel bearing still making the noise! They are saying it is the brakes now, whatever just don't charge me.

I still say axle bearing or diff.

cpayne5 09-17-2010 07:51 PM

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[quote=mredskins;734794][B]UPDATE[/B]

So they did the wheel bearing still making the noise! They are saying it is the brakes now, whatever just don't charge me.

I still say axle bearing or diff.[/quote]

Didn't you say you just did the brakes? I replaced my rear pads about a month ago and at 77k, they still had a lot of life left. I hated to swap them, but I wanted to get my new pads on and get everything cleaned up back there.

mredskins 09-17-2010 08:16 PM

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yes i had my local guy do my pads, that is why i brought it to him first but it never sound like a brake issue and he confirmed it was not. I trust him and have spent $K with him over the past ten years. He has had made mistakes and always goes to great lengths to fix his errors.

Plus since they pulled the brakes off to do the wheel bearings who knows if they put them back correctly.

Again I think it just service advisor talk to keep me busy while they figure it out, the last thing they want to do is pry open the diff unless they are positive that is the issue.

cpayne5 09-17-2010 08:21 PM

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[quote=mredskins;734800]yes i had my local guy do my pads, that is why i brought it to him first but it never sound like a brake issue and he confirmed it was not. I trust him and have spent $K with him over the past ten years. He has had made mistakes and always goes to great lengths to fix his errors.

Plus since they pulled the brakes off to do the wheel bearings who knows if they put them back correctly.

Again I think it just service advisor talk to keep me busy while they figure it out, the last thing they want to do is pry open the diff unless they are positive that is the issue.[/quote]

Did they drain the diff fluid? I think the drain plug has a magnet on it, so if the thing is shredded, that plug should tell a story. As well as the oil.

mredskins 09-17-2010 08:28 PM

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[quote=cpayne5;734802]Did they drain the diff fluid? I think the drain plug has a magnet on it, so if the thing is shredded, that plug should tell a story. As well as the oil.[/quote]


Yeah i was thinking that too. at this point it is warranty work so do what they may. As soon as I get it back I am trading it in.

mredskins 09-18-2010 09:13 PM

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[B]update two[/B]

They are going to replace the right side wheel bearing both axle bearings and the differential, will be done Tuesday.

firstdown 09-20-2010 09:58 AM

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[quote=cpayne5;734376]Also, the only way they won't cover it if they find signs of abuse. If you've taken care of your vehicle, there's nothing to worry about.[/quote]

So what's signs of abuse. Going 4 wheeling?LOL

cpayne5 09-20-2010 10:19 AM

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[quote=firstdown;736467]So what's signs of abuse. Going 4 wheeling?LOL[/quote]

Offroading is not a sign; it's not tangible.

Nasty fluid in the diff, water in the diff, etc are tangible, and would be signs of abuse. ;)

mredskins 09-20-2010 10:52 AM

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[quote=cpayne5;736477]Offroading is not a sign; it's not tangible.

Nasty fluid in the diff, water in the diff, etc are tangible, and would be signs of abuse. ;)[/quote]
My service adviser said they looked at my undercarriage for scratches and such. They also looked in my tow slot to see if there were scratches from putting in and out the hitch.


BTW- In the mitts of this my service adviser was fired on Saturday.


BTW2- My A/C stopped working on my wife's RDX. I have high psi on the low side (150psi) but getting hot air. I don't hear the composer clicking over but I also can't see because in typical Honda fashion it is somewhere next to the crank shaft.

Monkeydad 09-20-2010 11:04 AM

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[quote=mredskins;734972][B]update two[/B]

They are going to replace the right side wheel bearing both axle bearings and the differential, will be done Tuesday.[/quote]

That's a lot of failure for 62K miles.

Monkeydad 09-20-2010 11:06 AM

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[quote=mredskins;736497]BTW- In the mitts of this my service adviser was fired on Saturday.
[/quote]Amusing and not surprising.

cpayne5 09-20-2010 11:13 AM

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[quote=mredskins;736497]My service adviser said they looked at my undercarriage for scratches and such. They also looked in my tow slot to see if there were scratches from putting in and out the hitch.


BTW- In the mitts of this my service adviser was fired on Saturday.


BTW2- My A/C stopped working on my wife's RDX. I have high psi on the low side (150psi) but getting hot air. I don't hear the composer clicking over but I also can't see because in typical Honda fashion it is somewhere next to the crank shaft.[/quote]

150psi is way too high. The compressor will only operate within a given range, and 150 is way above that range (probably should be around 50psi). That's why it's not clicking on. You need to take it to a shop to have it evacuated. Did you just keep filling it???


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