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I'm not talking in general with Reed, just that play. He didn't time at all, he didn't try getting the hand in, hell, he could have tried to rip his arm off so he wouldn't come down with the ball.

I just think he blew it 100% on that play.

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He did get his hands on one of AJ's arms, but AJ is just a freak and was able to one hand it anyway.

AJ is 6'3 222 and arguably the top WR in the game, Reed is 6'1 210 and a backup safety.

Sorry but AJ one on one with Doughty is a total mismatch and he wins that battle 99 out of 100 times. Not sure what Doughty could have done.

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He got it on, but it doesn't look like he even tried to rip it. Like I would have yanked the hell out of his arm.

Oh I know it's a mismatch, but I just don't think he did a good enough job. His ass should have been doubled anyways.

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^^ Clearly, he forgot to yell "SHAZAM" and transform himself into Capt. Marvel prior to making his leap.

Honestly, I thought that Doughty played that ball about to the limits of his physical ability. He simply is unable to cover much better than he did on that play.

Which is why he is a good back up safety and borderline starter.

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Reed is a backup free safety and you cannot expect him to compete with possibly the most athletic wide receiver in the league. The question should be, where was Buchanon? He was on Johnson and released him to the safety. Looked like a bad scheme.

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There were so many things that went wrong in the fourth quarter and overtime, to single out Reed is not fair.

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[quote=SkinsLove24/7;736589]DeMatha! I am alum myself. What class?[/quote]SkinsLove - I'm Scott Campbell, Class of '82. I also had two brothers there, Chris ('84) and Kevin ('87). I see you're from Bowie - we grew up in Pointer Ridge!

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[quote=Defensewins;736608]
DB's will get beat from time to time. It is not always their fault (scheme, mis-communication, lack of pass rush). To be fiar we are blitzing a ton and putting a lot of pressure on our DB's.
I did not like the all out blitz on the critical 3rd and 15 that they converted. I think we can blitz one or two and still cover on that play. All out blitz was not necessary.[/quote]

Also perfectly stated, that's what I've saying. All that blitzing will come back to haunt you. What's the best way to beat a blitz? A short pass up the middle or a screen. What did the Texans do? Just that, plus play action that the defense kept biting on over and over.

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Phillip Buchanon would like to thank everyone in here who is bashing Doughty. And would like everyone to forget how he left Andre Johnson one-on-one with Doughty.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;736690]Also perfectly stated, that's what I've saying. All that blitzing will come back to haunt you. What's the best way to beat a blitz? A short pass up the middle or a screen. What did the Texans do? Just that, plus play action that the defense kept biting on over and over.[/quote]The 50 yard screen pass / run by Arian Foster was just killer. I love the aggressive attitude, but I agree that we can't leave the DBs out on an island so often.

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[quote=SouperMeister;736692]The 50 yard screen pass / run by Arian Foster was just killer. I love the aggressive attitude, but I agree that we can't leave the DBs out on an island so often.[/quote]

To me that was the turning point in the game. If we stop them on that third and 15, then we open the 4th quarter with a 17 point lead and the ball. Instead, that one play caused momentum to change completely.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;736690]Also perfectly stated, that's what I've saying. All that blitzing will come back to haunt you. What's the best way to beat a blitz? A short pass up the middle or a screen. What did the Texans do? Just that, plus play action that the defense kept biting on over and over.[/quote]

We got to start to mix it up more. Live by the sword die by the sword.
Haslett needs to be more balanced and more patient. We do not need to blitz and sack the QB on every pass play. Predictable!
I also thought or hoped we would mix in some or a minuscule amount of 4-3 defense. I am surprised we do not run any 4-3, even if it is a little bit. Just to confuse the shit out of them.

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[quote=scowan;736503]We are still feeling the affects of loosing Sean Taylor.[/quote]

no doubt. Jeez, what if........ya know!!

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[quote=Lotus;736696]To me that was the turning point in the game. If we stop them on that third and 15, then we open the 4th quarter with a 17 point lead and the ball. Instead, that one play caused momentum to change completely.[/quote]

Yes and No, our ofense had opportunities to put the game away in the fourth quarter on offense. The missed field goal was the real kicker.

That and CP blowing the conversion on 2nd down deep in the Redzone, just before the Brown false start. He just stumbled one yard short, if he had his legs underneath him he could have scored. I wonder why he has that problem at times, I don't know if he just gets ahead of himself or what, but he has had problems with that the past few years.

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so many needs next year... already thinking about 2011 off-season.

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I'm really hoping that Kareem Moore comes back and plays lights out so we can stop complaining about how we need a starting NFL free safety to replace our backup strong safety who had to be shifted over to free because there was nobody else. Reed Doughty may not be a playmaker other than the occasional batted ball and maybe a pick once in a while, but he plays hard. And he probably gave it everything he had on that play, it's just that Andre Johnson isn't called a top 3 wideout in this league for nothing. Obviously there will be a lot of second guessing about that play, and I am doing a little myself, but I just hope it comes down to being a learning experience so we can get things right next time. We play a lot of good passing offenses this season and we won't win games if we can't stop it.

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[quote=Kindoy;736841]so many needs next year... already thinking about 2011 off-season.[/quote]

Let's not get to ahead of ourselves! The season has just begun, and this offseason was one of the longest in recent memory. I am rady for some more football!

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[quote=Mattyk;736456]So when Moore comes back, does he solve all our problems or will he be the next goat?[/quote]

for some reason you're blindly apologizing for Reed

I like the guy, love his attitude

hell his positioning on the one play was pretty solid

he's been a step behind in both games so far and I'm not sure how anyone could argue that

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[quote=SouperMeister;736558]I can think of one DB who wins that jump ball. Go to 2:25 of the following:

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWBEZ6P-ErM]YouTube - Sean Taylor Highlights[/url]

That was a jump ball against a young Randy Moss!!![/quote]

for those of you that see this and remember the reel of Sean Taylor highlights that he provided, look at each play, not a single one of those shots were in the 21 jersey.. that's rookie year highlights only

I still tear up every time

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[quote=Mattyk;736564]Zones have natural soft spots and right now we're getting picked apart, granted by good QBs and WRs. Haslett has been super aggressive with the front 7 and might need to start dialing that back a bit.[/quote]

this I'll agree with you on no doubt, the big D play isn't necessarily what a D should be aiming for every time, being timely and showing aggression when needed takes reading the O very well.. something that 2G has done with the Saints but lost with us it seems

I'm sold on the 3-4 defense, but not in doing so with whom we have

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[quote=freddyg12;736559]This zone scheme left a lot of holes open, just as it did last week (e.g. Austin's 31 yrder on 4th & 10). I don't attribute it to the safeties, it looks like the whole system isn't working. Could be just a matter of time & learning it, or maybe there's a reason Haslett's defenses have given up a lot of yards in the past?[/quote]

It seems as if our blitz concepts are more thought out then our coverage concepts.
Although i'm a big time advocate of pressure backed up by zone as a way to generatr QB mistakes you have to change it and disguise the coverages we just can't sit back and alterante between Cover 2/Cover 3 zone unless we're creating ungodly pressure (which we're not). We need to through in some man coverages, some cloud coverages etc.

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[quote=tryfuhl;736909]for those of you that see this and remember the reel of Sean Taylor highlights that he provided, look at each play, not a single one of those shots were in the 21 jersey.. that's rookie year highlights only

I still tear up every time[/quote]


What is scary is that he was only getting better... he was headed for an unbeliveable year in 07 before he got hurt. I still go back and watch the video they showed at fed-ex the sunday following, and cry. I can't watch anything with that young man and not feel somewhat empty.

I wonder if I ever will be... or if I will ever watch a game again and not think what if st was still here...... then I just have to remember it was God's plan not mine.

My fiance had a coffee cup made for me for christmas last year.. half of it was me in my race car on the track and the other side was ST in the clouds wearing his Skins uni with his back turned and a face shot of him from when he was a rookie.. it says gone but never forgotten "an angel amoung us". She gave it to me at our Christmas party and I had to leave the room, because I had to cry and I didnt want to do it in front of all our friends...

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I can't say that I ever think about a play or game in an "if Sean was there.." type manner anymore

to me it transcends a play or game, just if people had his style, his ability, his desire.. if every player played like Sean Taylor you wouldn't need an offense.. if every player played like Sean you wouldn't have excuses after games.. if every player played like Sean we wouldn't have much to worry about

some players are smart, some players adjust well, some are fast.. some are big..

Sean had all of that, plus intensity, you can't coach intensity, you either want it or you don't.. being a wrestler myself and having played defense, there's no substitute for intensity, none at all.. you can take the most intensive player and couple that with half smarts and chances are you're going to be much better than the smartest player with 75% intensity

you're never out of the play when you're ready to make it

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[quote=tryfuhl;736915]I can't say that I ever think about a play or game in an "if Sean was there.." type manner anymore

to me it transcends a play or game,[B] just if people had his style, his ability, his desire.. if every player played like Sean Taylor you wouldn't need an offense.. if every player played like Sean you wouldn't have excuses after games.. if every player played like Sean we wouldn't have much to worry about[/B]

some players are smart, some players adjust well, some are fast.. some are big..

Sean had all of that, plus intensity, you can't coach intensity, you either want it or you don't.. being a wrestler myself and having played defense, there's no substitute for intensity, none at all.. you can take the most intensive player and couple that with half smarts and chances are you're going to be much better than the smartest player with 75% intensity

you're never out of the play when you're ready to make it[/quote]

What I respected about him, and what I think about is more than the "What If" game taht people like to play, but more of what you are talking about T. The way the man played, the way that he brought out the most in CP, and even in Satana at times, the way he raised the whole play of the enitre defense. He was just so special and I wanted to watch him become the greatest Safety to ever play the game.

He was going to be that special, he was going to lead the defense to championships, but his life had more meaning than football. He was destined to bring that same intensity to protecting the 2 most important things to him in his life. That is what he was brought here to do. To impact our lives the way that he did, I am sure there are men and children out that he has become a hero for even in death. He opened my eyes to certain things about life and I did not even know him.

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Sean was a football player.
Down to his very core.
He was the best player on the defense.
Yet he would take reps as scout team CB to work on his craft.
Sean was special and will be missed.