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[quote=GMScud;736604]He also said what Haslett says "doesn't matter." Yeah, um, wrong. It's the Redskins defense, D-Hall. And it's led by Fletcher. Let's not get it twisted. And you don't hear him mouthing off about the scheme.

I appreciate that Hall wants to be a leader, but don't do it through the media.[/quote]

I agree that's not a leaders approach. It's not the right thing to say regardless of his good intentions.

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I don't think anyone is arguing that this is fletchers Defense...soon to be followed by Orakpo's Defense...that said...

Don't you guys think that if he really felt this way he would have stepped up and said something during the game that he wanted to man up with AJ? I mean I think he should have...talk is cheap let's see what he does...this could be the fire he needs for himself.

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funny how when d hall speaks out now.. vs one "bad play" it's cool

last year not so much

I'm cool with it though

just if you blamed hall's talk last year, portis in any of the last few, you should think about what you say

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[quote=tootergray34;736782]I don't think anyone is arguing that this is fletchers Defense...soon to be followed by Orakpo's Defense...that said...

Don't you guys think that if he really felt this way he would have stepped up and said something during the game that he wanted to man up with AJ? I mean I think he should have...talk is cheap let's see what he does...this could be the fire he needs for himself.[/quote]

hard to say.. not like he was on fire with his own guy though.. a quick passer can help do that regardless of the D though

by what he's saying I doubt that he asked to be on Johnson, but I don't think that Haslett/Shanahan would've gone against their own calls anyways, they're pretty stubborn with personnel

it would be cool to see Hall at FS when the situation called for it though.. a guy that can eye a receiver AND be able to sit back and watch the play develop?

not to say we had an idea they were going for a TD bomb, but we knew it was a possibility if it opened up

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[I]For the first time, Hall revealed that Haslett considered changing plans late in the game to best utilize the Pro Bowl corner as Washington squandered the lead. "He started to make the adjustment [in the] middle of third quarter to [have Hall] go follow 80 [Johnson]," Hall said. But Haslett told Hall he "didn't want to do something I haven't practiced," Hall said.

When Hall said, "this my team. This my defense," he said he meant that he wants to shoulder much responsibility for the team, and players must perform on the field. "In the back of your mind, I think you always care what people think about you," Hall said. "I think my teammates know the message I'm trying to send. They understand where I'm trying to come from."
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[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/deangelo-hall/cornerback-deangelo-hall-said.html#more]Redskins Insider - DeAngelo Hall clarifies his position on coverage plan[/url]

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[quote=tryfuhl;736905]funny how when d hall speaks out now.. vs one "bad play" it's cool

last year not so much

I'm cool with it though

just if you blamed hall's talk last year, portis in any of the last few, you should think about what you say[/quote]

Was he only speaking out about the one play or the fact that the defense was getting torched by Johnson most of the second half?

I havent heard the interview, so I am asking a general question for those that have.

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I have no problem with what hall said...

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[quote=skinsfaninok;736597]Hall sounded like he was pissed at JH for putting Phillip on AJ. I really don't think it would have mattered if Hall was on Johnson but atleast he's fired up![/quote]

There's nothing wrong with Hall being fired-up [so to speak] It's his delivery that has some people scratching their heads. Haven't we had enough of these controversial issues for one season? Sounds familiar, one player dictating how he should be utilized above all others.

Even if the coaches were to concede to his demands, I wonder what makes him think he could cover AJ one-on-one giving up so much in physical statue.

This is just another team issue that should never have gotten in the media.

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[quote=Longtimefan;736930]There's nothing wrong with Hall being fired-up [so to speak] It's his delivery that has some people scratching their heads. Haven't we had enough of these controversial issues for one season? Sounds familiar, one player dictating how he should be utilized above all others.

Even if the coaches were to concede to his demands, I wonder what makes him think he could cover AJ one-on-one giving up so much in physical statue.

This is just another team issue that should never have gotten in the media.[/quote]

I know that I'd probably rather have Hall one-on-one with him than Doughty and initially Buchanon. It's not like he's never covered a taller guy before.

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[quote=GreekSkin;736918][I]For the first time, Hall revealed that Haslett considered changing plans late in the game to best utilize the Pro Bowl corner as Washington squandered the lead. "He started to make the adjustment [in the] middle of third quarter to [have Hall] go follow 80 [Johnson]," Hall said. But Haslett told Hall he "didn't want to do something I haven't practiced," Hall said.
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practiced what? a particular coverage type? game planning for Johnson?

seems silly

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[quote=tryfuhl;736950]I know that I'd probably rather have Hall one-on-one with him than Doughty and initially Buchanon. It's not like he's never covered a taller guy before.[/quote]

In all fairness to Doughty, he's a back-up player and there's a reason for that. The coverage was there on the touchdown play, AJ just used his superior athletic ability to make the play. exchange Hall for Doughty, AJ still makes that play. That's just MO....I thought Buchanon released AJ to the safety a little too soon, had he stayed underneath a little longer Schaub may have had second thoughts about throwing to AJ.

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Well, the defense as a whole failed in the second half of that game. As well as the special teams. Noone made plays, noone stopped the texans from moving down the field at will when they needed to.


Everyone that is on the defense and named Fred Davis should be absolutely upset with themselves. They only need to look in the mirror as to why we are 1-1 instead of 2-0 with a real shot of starting the season out 4-0.

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[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/20/AR2010092005756.html"]Asked at his news briefing later about Hall's remarks, C[B]oach Mike Shanahan said: "Well, first of all, I'm not exactly sure how it was said. But just listening to your comments, I want all the players thinking that way. I want Carlos Rogers thinking that way, I want DeAngelo thinking, LaRon Landry, Kareem Moore, all those type of guys, wanting the pressure to cover the top receiver. Same thing inside with London Fletcher. You want guys that believe in themselves and know they can get the job done."[/B] [/URL]

Coach doesn't have a problem with it, neither do I. Get some, D. Hall!

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[quote=ashvirtually;736991][URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/20/AR2010092005756.html"]Asked at his news briefing later about Hall's remarks, C[B]oach Mike Shanahan said: "Well, first of all, I'm not exactly sure how it was said. But just listening to your comments, I want all the players thinking that way. I want Carlos Rogers thinking that way, I want DeAngelo thinking, LaRon Landry, Kareem Moore, all those type of guys, wanting the pressure to cover the top receiver. Same thing inside with London Fletcher. You want guys that believe in themselves and know they can get the job done."[/B] [/URL]

Coach doesn't have a problem with it, neither do I. Get some, D. Hall![/quote]

Shanahan may like the idea of them thinking that way, I'm just not so sure he'd be excited about them speaking that way, there is a difference. This is especially true when it's being spoken to print.

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[quote=Longtimefan;737002]Shanahan may like the idea of them thinking that way, I'm just not so sure he'd be excited about them speaking that way, there is a difference. This is especially true when it's being spoken to print.[/quote]And I agree with Cooley that there is a lot of political correctness in the NFL and there's nothing at all wrong with how or what he said, especially if it is cool in the locker room and understood within the team that he was just venting his frustration.

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[quote=Hog1;736757]Well, possibly more than any team in the NFL, we have the potential to improve through the season. ALL of our coaches and many of our guys are new. Our systems and terminology are new. With familiarity will come vast improvement. Things will start to "click". It should show from one week to the next as the season progresses...................I hope[/quote]


Since the defense is ranked 32nd in the league at the moment you posted this, there is no defensive unit in the league who has the potential for greater improvement than the Redskins' defense. That is a mathematical certainty.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;737075]Since the defense is ranked 32nd in the league [SIZE=4]at the moment you posted this, there is no defensive unit in the league who has the potential for greater improvement than the Redskins' defense. That is a mathematical certainty[/SIZE].[/quote]

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Maybe Cutler is a clown, but DHall is a shit talking [B]assclown[/B] who should keep his mouth shut. I'm sick of this ****ing guy and his antics.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81f7852d/article/redskins-cb-hall-resumes-war-of-words-with-bears-qb-cutler?module=HP_headlines]NFL.com news: Redskins CB Hall resumes war of words with Bears QB Cutler[/url]

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I thought it was funny. 4 picks in one game is kinda ridiculous.

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As far as I'm concerned, until Cutler throws 4 TDs against Hall as a Redskins, Hall can say whatever the F he wants. You are a clown to throw four picks to the same DB and then say that you'd do it again.

Can't agree with the cafeteria fans on this one.

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lol cutler is a clown. But yes, Hall should focus on not clowning in coverage 14/16 regular season games.

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God I hope D Hall doesn't lead this team. He's a dummy.

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[quote=skinster;795413]God I hope D Hall doesn't lead this team. He's a dummy.[/quote]

Not really the point of the thread bump, just someone that doesn't like Hall bringing up something pretty insignificant.

That said, London Fletcher is the leader of the defense and not Hall. I don't think anyone has anything to worry about that any time soon.

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Going forward let's start making some new threads rather than bumping these old ones all the time. It gets confusing and really D-Hall popping off about Cutler has nothing to do with the original topic here.