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this move was needed...excellent trigger..don't bring him back...crumbled and made a rookie mistake with the game on the line

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Chad Simpson?....LJ was a joke. Id say run K Williams much more and see what he has. I thought with CP and being in Shanny offense previously, he would adapt quickly and we'd be seeing production? Sorry, but that a been a fail so far. Portis to me has been a disappointment especially after how things were going to be "different now"...go ahead and put down RB on the "wish list" for the offseason

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 

I kinda felt this coming. LJ was slow and not a good fit for the zone scheme. I think this means it's time for Williams to step up.

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I was really hoping the Burgandy and Gold would've cut Reed (The Witness) Doughty.

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The LJ signing and release, and the lack of RB talent on the roster, make me nervous. What's the plan again?

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[quote=The Goat;737285]The LJ signing and release, and the lack of RB talent on the roster, make me nervous. What's the plan again?[/quote]

Don't forget Shanny has history of finding RB gems..

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I think LJ and WP were signed in the offseason for one reason only...Shanahan wasn't sure that Clinton was going to buy in and be a team guy and they needed a veteran in the backfield to lead the young guys. With CP stepping up and LJ looking ancient, this was a foregone conclusion.

I would look for Shanahan to try and find a hidden gem either through a trade or in the late round of the draft. He has never looked for first (or even second) round talent at RB...just young guys with a quick initial cut and burst.

You don't have to be Chris Johnson to do well in Shanahan's run system, but you better have a decent first cut and some explosion through the hole. Clinton, god love him, just doesn't have the burst any more. LJ didn't have either.

BTW, on a personal note, I couldn't be happier to see that d-bag misogynist shown the door.

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[quote=12thMan;737250]I'm not buying it. Running backs get paid to find holes and run through them. He might have still have something left in the tank, but definitely not as a featured back.[/quote]

LOL... I was talking about Keiland Williams. Larry Johnson is done.

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[quote=The Goat;737285]The LJ signing and release, and the lack of RB talent on the roster, make me nervous. What's the plan again?[/quote]

I guess put your trust on K. Williams as the back up? I dunno, not too crazy with the running game in general.

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 

Even though I made a call to improve the trenches. I MUST point out that we should let them settle into the zone-blocking scheme a bit first before panicking.

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 

[quote=backrow;737279]I was really hoping the Burgandy and Gold would've cut Reed (The Witness) Doughty.[/quote]

Because clearly doughty is the problem with this team... :hater:

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 

[quote=takethecake;737303]Because clearly doughty is the problem with this team... :hater:[/quote]

Apparently.

Reed Doughty made Jammal Brown commit that false start
Doughty told Phillip Buchanon to not worry about Andre Johnson on that TD pass
He's the reason why Fred Davis didn't block Bernard Pollard
Doughty told Haslett to go crazy with the blitzing, and forget about coverage

Did I miss anything else? [/sarcasm]

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[quote=Ruhskins;737310]Apparently.

Reed Doughty made Jammal Brown commit that false start
Doughty told Phillip Buchanon to not worry about Andre Johnson on that TD pass
He's the reason why Fred Davis didn't block Bernard Pollard
Doughty told Haslett to go crazy with the blitzing, and forget about coverage

Did I miss anything else? [/sarcasm][/quote]

One more thing:

He made Rogers uncover Walters. That guy had a field day against Carlos.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;737301]Even though I made a call to improve the trenches. I MUST point out that we should let them settle into the zone-blocking scheme a bit first before panicking.[/quote]

This. On paper the line is just as talented as any line Shanahan has coached. The only difference being the starting Guards are a little less fleet of foot. Also I think it should be noted that the reason Chad Simpson was signed was because he has experience, and even a little taste of success, in Indy's zone blocking scheme.

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 

Ok so ho hum. LJ isn't what he used to be and doesn't fit our scheme.

I am more interested in why we picked up Simpson to replace him. If we needed a back then Torain gets promoted. So for some reason we needed a SP back. For what? There is more to this. There has to be. Otherwise we cut LJ and replace him with a PS guy right? What the heck to do we need this guy for? He isn't going to return kicks. Right? WTF?

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[quote=FRPLG;737324]Ok so ho hum. LJ isn't what he used to be and doesn't fit our scheme.

I am more interested in why we picked up Simpson to replace him. If we needed a back then Torain gets promoted. So for some reason we needed a SP back. For what? There is more to this. There has to be. Otherwise we cut LJ and replace him with a PS guy right? What the heck to do we need this guy for? He isn't going to return kicks. Right? WTF?[/quote]

I read somewhere he excels at Special Teams.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;737325]I read somewhere he excels at Special Teams.[/quote]

My question is why did we get him? Who is hurt? I just read on PFT we have "multiple" injuries to teamers. Who?

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Maybe we just need some fresh legs, I don't really know. If there's a silver lining in not promoting torain, it may be that the scouting staff saw something in simpson that would suggest a good fit with the blocking scheme. Before we bash the staff for keeping torain on the PS, let's at least see what this new guy can do.

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[quote=Mc2guy;737289]I think LJ and WP were signed in the offseason for one reason only...Shanahan wasn't sure that Clinton was going to buy in and be a team guy and they needed a veteran in the backfield to lead the young guys. With CP stepping up and LJ looking ancient, this was a foregone conclusion.

I would look for Shanahan to try and find a hidden gem either through a trade or in the late round of the draft. He has never looked for first (or even second) round talent at RB...just young guys with a quick initial cut and burst.

You don't have to be Chris Johnson to do well in Shanahan's run system, but you better have a decent first cut and some explosion through the hole. Clinton, god love him, just doesn't have the burst any more. LJ didn't have either.

BTW, on a personal note, I couldn't be happier to see that d-bag misogynist shown the door.[/quote]

He took Tatum Bell in the 2nd round.

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[quote=FRPLG;737326]My question is why did we get him? Who is hurt? I just read on PFT we have "multiple" injuries to teamers. Who?[/quote]

Yeah, I think PFT was wrong about that.

But I also think that Shanny wants to try someone else at returns until Banks learns not to put the ball on the ground.

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Chad Simpson is a better special teamer and 3rd down back than either LJ or Torain. Therefore it's a great pickup. He is probably the best kick returner we have now as well. Local product. Has 4.4 speed. Why not?

LJ was just Shawn Alexander Part Deux...

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According to this article, Simpson could pose a threat to Devin Thomas as a return man, possibly sending him to the unemployment line.

[url=http://dcprosportsreport.com/2010/09/21/what-does-signing-chad-simpson-mean-for-the-redskins/]What does signing Chad Simpson mean for the Redskins? « DC Pro Sports Report[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;737333]According to this article, Simpson could pose a threat to Devin Thomas as a return man, possibly sending him to the unemployment line.

[url=http://dcprosportsreport.com/2010/09/21/what-does-signing-chad-simpson-mean-for-the-redskins/]What does signing Chad Simpson mean for the Redskins? « DC Pro Sports Report[/url][/quote]

I think thats a fan made article. Just one persons speculation.

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 

[quote=Ruhskins;737310]Apparently.

Reed Doughty made Jammal Brown commit that false start
Doughty told Phillip Buchanon to not worry about Andre Johnson on that TD pass
He's the reason why Fred Davis didn't block Bernard Pollard
Doughty told Haslett to go crazy with the blitzing, and forget about coverage

Did I miss anything else? [/sarcasm][/quote]

Doughty is hiding Bin Laden under his bed.
The Seven Deadly Sins? Authored and taught by Doughty.
Global warming exists and its cause is Reed Doughty.
Reed Doughty created crack cocaine.
Doughty is the original cyber-bully.
High unemployment? I'm looking at you Reed Doughty!!
And finally ... the reason that the beautiful exotic girl who you slept with after your drunken bender has been replaced by the 200 lb female Rumanian beet farmer?? You guessed it! Reed Doughty.

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 

If he beats out Thomas as KR--which I think he can and will--then what is the point of keeping Thomas? He is clearly behind Williams and Armstrong so as a 5th receiver he needs to be stellar on special teams. I could have swore he fumbled a kickoff last week (he recovered it back) and he made a bad decision taking a kick out deep out of the endzone. I would not be surprised at all to see Thomas cut in a few weeks if he does not show something over the next few games.

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 

[quote=NYCSkin;737332]Chad Simpson is a better special teamer and 3rd down back than either LJ or Torain. Therefore it's a great pickup. He is probably the best kick returner we have now as well. Local product. Has 4.4 speed. Why not?

LJ was just Shawn Alexander Part Deux...[/quote]

Cutting ability matters much more than top end speed. If Simpson can make killer cuts, good for him and good for the Redskins.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;737328]He took Tatum Bell in the 2nd round.[/quote]

He also used Bell and George Foster (another bust) to get a draft pick and Dre Bly. Now, Bly's [B]actual[/B] value may not have been that great, but his perceived value then was probably pretty good.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;737335]Doughty is hiding Bin Laden under his bed.
The Seven Deadly Sins? Authored and taught by Doughty.
Global warming exists and its cause is Reed Doughty.
Reed Doughty created crack cocaine.
Doughty is the original cyber-bully.
High unemployment? I'm looking at you Reed Doughty!!
And finally ... the reason that the beautiful exotic girl who you slept with after your drunken bender has been replaced by the 200 lb female Rumanian beet farmer?? You guessed it! Reed Doughty.[/quote]

That is F'n awesome.... yet sadly so true. :Smoker:

Doughty is public enemy # 1 on the America's Most Wanted List.

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 

[quote=NYCSkin;737332]Chad Simpson is a better special teamer and 3rd down back than either LJ or Torain. Therefore it's a great pickup. He is probably the best kick returner we have now as well. Local product. Has 4.4 speed. Why not?

LJ was just Shawn Alexander Part Deux...[/quote]

Shaun's first run was 8 yards. He was more effective then LJ.


These facts about Simpson sound promising...DT's doing great on returns but he's going to be a busy WR soon enough and probably off return duty. If Banks doesn't step up, sounds like this Simpson guy can fill the role.

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[quote=Buster;737363]Shaun's first run was 8 yards. He was more effective then LJ.


These facts about Simpson sound promising...DT's doing great on returns but he's going to be a busy WR soon enough and probably off return duty. If Banks doesn't step up, sounds like this Simpson guy can fill the role.[/quote]

Don't forget he played in Indy's zone blocking system....actually on second thought maybe it's best to forget. Didn't they say they were going to get better on the ground and make a shift to more physical offensive lineman, then proceeded to go into this year with the exact same line that closed out last year?

[quote]Following the Super Bowl loss to New Orleans, team president Bill Polian publicly criticized the offensive line, which failed to open a big enough hole on third-and-1 late in the first half to allow the Colts to run out the clock. Or get the Colts into the end zone from the Saints 3.

So Polian spent the offseason remodeling an offensive line that has traditionally ranked among the league's best in quarterback protection. Polian released starting guard Ryan Lilja in March, then uncharacteristically signed two veteran free agents - neither of whom made the team.

The project continued on draft weekend when he took guard Jacques McClendon in Round 4 and blocking tight end Brody Eldridge in Round 5, and last week, the Colts cut ties with former second-round pick Tony Ugoh - once labeled their left tackle of the future.


Read more: [url=http://www.kentucky.com/2010/09/14/1434687/colts-searching-for-answers-along.html#ixzz10GMCkbCd]Colts searching for answers along offensive line - NFL - Wire - Kentucky.com[/url][/quote]

Basically his big move in "fixing" the O-Line was to cut two players that were serving as backups. Doesn't really relate to Chad Simpson, I just found it confusing that after all his talk about rebuilding the line, they ended up with virtually the exact same players minus two backups with starting experience

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[quote=JoeRedskin;737335]Doughty is hiding Bin Laden under his bed.
The Seven Deadly Sins? Authored and taught by Doughty.
Global warming exists and its cause is Reed Doughty.
Reed Doughty created crack cocaine.
Doughty is the original cyber-bully.
High unemployment? I'm looking at you Reed Doughty!!
And finally ... the reason that the beautiful exotic girl who you slept with after your drunken bender has been replaced by the 200 lb female Rumanian beet farmer?? You guessed it! Reed Doughty.[/quote]

I also heard that Reed Doughty hacked into Twitter yesterday. :Smoker:

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 

is there anyone out there we could trade fat al for? obviously a 4-3 team...

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 

LaVar's WashPost blog "hard hits" is taking some hard hits from the Redskin faithful over his comments about the team cutting LJ, among other things. The readers reaction I don't find surprising.

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 

[quote=Buster;737177]Torain promotion hopefully?

We can't just carry 3 TBs.


edit: Nevermind, never heard of Chad Simpson. Hopefully he runs like O.J.[/quote]

are we talking O.J. as a Bill or O.J. with the Bronco?

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[quote=skinsfan69;737220]You need your 2nd string rb to play teams and LJ doesn't. Plus he sucks at pass pro and isn't a threat out of the backfield. Maybe Houston or Green Bay picks him up but other then that I'd say he's done.[/quote]

Based on what you said why would Houston want him? Green Bay either for that matter.

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 

[quote=Dirtbag359;737334]I think thats a fan made article. Just one persons speculation.[/quote]

and us loyal Warpathians know that first hand lol

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 

A little audio from Chad Simpson this morning

[url=http://1067thefandc.cbslocal.com/2010/09/22/09-22-10-redskins-locker-room-audio/#more-43230]09-22-10 Redskins Locker Room Audio « 106.7 The Fan – DC Sportsradio[/url]

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[quote=tryfuhl;737496]are we talking O.J. as a Bill or O.J. with the Bronco?[/quote]

You mean 49ers?

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 

whoooosh

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[quote=johno;737211]thank goodness, he ran like hot garbage these first two games. i appreciate the effort and all, but he had to go. vaya con dios.[/quote]

I was hoping he could have stepped up. WParker couldnt, Westbrook signed w/ the niners, IDK why the team didnt take a shot at getting Ltomlinson but I had hopes of LJ being able to shine like in his heyday. It wasnt like he was asked to anything special.. just run FORWARDS.

The team must like Keiland a whole lot. I dont see it.