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A big time defensive game going on in the NYG/Bears game.

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[quote=Ruhskins;742610]A big time defensive game going on in the NYG/Bears game.[/quote]

So nice to watch football and not have to pace around with my heart beating out of chest. Though I obviously want the Bears to win the sense of urgency isn't nearly as great.

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Horrible int there by Cutler

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Could either of these offenses look crappier? God the Giants are a bad team right now.

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What an abortion the Bears and Cutler are right now too.

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Clearly this is a trap game for the Bears though the Giants offense seems to be stuck in mediocrity. The Giants D is playing well though.

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Is it windy? What's with the passing game?

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Cutler is worse than Campbell, thank god they didn't give up the farm for this clown.

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The defensive lines are dominating in today's game. We may have a record number of sacks in this game.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;742676]Cutler is worse than Campbell, thank god they didn't give up the farm for this clown.[/quote]

That's Y JC is a starter right?? Oh yea he's not..

Ugly game Both lines are getting trashed

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It's amazing how the NFL can change from week to week. Last week we were the worst team in the NFL. This week we're tied for first in the Weast.

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Osi and Peppers are owning the tackles they are going up against. I hope Trent is back in form when he has to go against Osi or Peppers.

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Todd Collins in for Cutler, ha, ha.

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Might as well rename the NYSE the New York Sack Exchange. Sheesh.

Todd Collins in at QB for the Bears

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;742676]Cutler is worse than Campbell, thank god they didn't give up the farm for this clown.[/quote]

Bears o-line is worse than ours. Cutler can win games with his ability. Campbell always needs others.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;742712]Todd Collins in for Cutler, ha, ha.[/quote]

Injury or performance?

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Cutler has a concussion

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[quote=Mattyk;742726]Cutler has a concussion[/quote]

18 Games FTW!!!! More chances for Todd Collins to prove that he's 1337

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Freaking Bears.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;742728]18 Games FTW!!!! More chances for Todd Collins to prove that he's 1337[/quote]
:lol:

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Giants showing how a 4-3 D-line utterly stacked with talent can beat scrub OLs. Thank god we at least improved ours, although further improvements are needed.

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Look at that, Todd Collins still throwing picks.

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Lol. Al Michaels. "They practice this in practice all the time. They [B]strip, strip, strip[/B]". :lol:

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What a great strip and recovery by that Bears DB on Ahmad Bradshaw. Was that Charles Tillman? I thought I heard Al Michaels say Bowman though. I'm not sure who it was but it was a great play either way.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;742782]Lol. Al Michaels. "They practice this in practice all the time. They [B]strip, strip, strip[/B]". :lol:[/quote]

Dude, why do you have Zorn as an Avatar?!

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;742785]Dude, why do you have Zorn as an Avatar?![/quote]

'Cause I never bothered to change it. And when I wanted to change it, the guy I wanted to change it to(Carriker) wasn't there.

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Proof that the NFL is a new season each week, how are the Bears 3-0?

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[quote=Mattyk;742789]Proof that the NFL is a new season each week, how are the Bears 3-0?[/quote]

3-1...

btw. I think the Bears and Giants aren't that great. I would be willing to bet a lot of $ that we at least split with the G-men this year. They are garbage.

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[quote=Mattyk;742789]Proof that the NFL is a new season each week, how are the Bears 3-0?[/quote]

Because Martz and Cutler were able to make up for the deficiencies in the Bears' O-line in the previous weeks. The Giants are simply too stacked in their front 4.

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What an ugly Sunday Night game. And this Giants td seals it. Somebody should tell the Bears' o-line how to pass block.

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Collins down. Outlook for Chicago is bad for the next few weeks.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;742723]Bears o-line is worse than ours. Cutler can win games with his ability. Campbell always needs others.[/quote]

Apparently that wasn't the case tonight, Cutler looked like crap and had the same issues that Campbell has had in the past. Cutler is not elite enough to beat a team by himself, something that you'll see the likes of Manning, Brees, and Brady do.

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[quote=Ruhskins;742816]Apparently that wasn't the case tonight, Cutler looked like crap and had the same issues that Campbell has had in the past. Cutler is not elite enough to beat a team by himself, something that you'll see the likes of Manning, Brees, and Brady do.[/quote]

He beat Green Bay and Dallas. He made big plays to Knox. He extended a play in which he was about to get canned by GB and flipped it to Olsen.
Hell, last year, he beat the Vikes with a beautifully thrown ball to Aromashodu.

This week, the O-line could not tread water like they did in the previous weeks and he gets smacked with a concussion. The Bears o-line is never going to dominate an opposing o-line this year. They'll always be underdogs.


Cutler may be facing similar [I]external issuses[/I] to Campbell like the shitty O-line, but mentally and physically, he is much above Campbell. Campbell is not good with "over the top routes" or routes in which the target point has leads the receiver "up" field. He's only good at stuff like comebacks and the like. Campbell is also mediocre at extending the play, while Cutler has shown he can avoid some critical sacks and the like.

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So,

I just want to make sure I understand this right. KC is the only undefeated team in the NFL? Really [B][I][U]KC[/U][/I][/B].

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;742832]He beat Green Bay and Dallas. He made big plays to Knox. He extended a play in which he was about to get canned by GB and flipped it to Olsen.
Hell, last year, he beat the Vikes with a beautifully thrown ball to Aromashodu.

This week, the O-line could not tread water like they did in the previous weeks and he gets smacked with a concussion. The Bears o-line is never going to dominate an opposing o-line this year. They'll always be underdogs.

Cutler may be facing similar [I]external issuses[/I] to Campbell like the shitty O-line, but mentally and physically, he is much above Campbell. Campbell is not good with "over the top routes" or routes in which the target point has leads the receiver "up" field. He's only good at stuff like comebacks and the like. Campbell is also mediocre at extending the play, while Cutler has shown he can avoid some critical sacks and the like.[/quote]

Why do you keep comparing Cutler to Campbell? It makes no sense whatsoever. Cutler is a good QB, not a great one; and the other is a mediocre QB that is sitting on Oakland's bench.

Cutler got dominated by another team and was not able to overcome the the deficiencies of his offense (although I think their D played well and gave the offense opportunities to come back in this game). Now he has a concussion and who knows what will become of him. End of story.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;742843]So,

I just want to make sure I understand this right. KC is the only undefeated team in the NFL? Really [B][I][U]KC[/U][/I][/B].[/quote]

Sign of the apocalypse?

I must say, there is no dominant team in the NFL this year. Indy and New England seem mortal. The AFC North teams are going to beat the crap out of each other. The NFC East seems a bit mediocre, and every bandwagon's SB favorite, the Cowpukes, had to win a desperation game last week. Hell, even the AFC and NFC West doesn't seem to have a clear-cut division winner.

I think we are going to see a lot of last minute games decide playoff spots this year.

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[quote=Ruhskins;742849]Sign of the apocalypse?

I must say, there is no dominant team in the NFL this year. Indy and New England seem mortal. The AFC North teams are going to beat the crap out of each other. The NFC East seems a bit mediocre, and every bandwagon's SB favorite, the Cowpukes, had to win a desperation game last week. Hell, even the AFC and NFC West doesn't seem to have a clear-cut division winner.

[B]I think we are going to see a lot of last minute games decide playoff spots this year.[/B][/quote]

It makes the league's decision to have division games in the final weeks look like Super Genius. It could be an interesting December.

I am glad that Dallas had such an early bye week. I am hoping that between the HOF game, and early bye, they will be sucking wind in December.

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[quote=Ruhskins;742846]Why do you keep comparing Cutler to Campbell? It makes no sense whatsoever. Cutler is a good QB, not a great one; and the other is a mediocre QB that is sitting on Oakland's bench.

Cutler got dominated by another team and was not able to overcome the the deficiencies of his offense (although I think their D played well and gave the offense opportunities to come back in this game). Now he has a concussion and who knows what will become of him. End of story.[/quote]
You tried to make them appear equivalent. I responded with a counter.

Giants D-line played lights out and milked the laws of physics in their favor. Cutler's not going to overcome EVERY game, but he has made it work against Green Bay and Dallas and a few others. He's outdone Campbell in that regard. He and the refs are why the Bears are overachieving as much as they are. Put in someone with worse pocket presence and the like, and they're lucky to even milk out one win.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;742843]So,

I just want to make sure I understand this right. KC is the only undefeated team in the NFL? Really [B][I][U]KC[/U][/I][/B].[/quote]

Their defense has been surprisingly consistent in fantasy as well. I guess that's what drafting high every year can do to you.

And Jamaal Charles is a FF beast.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;742863][B]You tried to make them appear equivalent. I responded with a counter. [/B]

Giants D-line played lights out and milked the laws of physics in their favor. Cutler's not going to overcome EVERY game, but he has made it work against Green Bay and Dallas and a few others. He's outdone Campbell in that regard. He and the refs are why the Bears are overachieving as much as they are. Put in someone with worse pocket presence and the like, and they're lucky to even milk out one win.[/quote]

But you started to compare them initially, once again, I don't get why you do it.

Anyway, I think that any QB in that pocket (the Bears) would not have succeeded or survived. It seems that the Giants D-line got the whole "we're desperate for a win" down tonight.