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[quote=mooby;742762]I wasn't aware of that, but did they struggle enough to blow a 17 point lead and were also nearly last in yards given up and 10 play drives given up?

Now granted we're only 4 weeks in and there's a lot of football left to be played, but so far we experienced more of a dropoff than I figured. Some of what I've seen is poor tackling, some I feel is the result of overthinking and being too slow to react, but I didn't think it would be this bad.

Like I said before there's plenty of football left to be played and they did play much improved d today, so I'm not going to judge them too harshly anymore. I'm probably gonna hold my tongue for the rest of the season in fact because I feel like there isn't a good enough sample size to accurately judge what kind of defense we will have for the rest of the season.[/quote]

They gave up over 300 yards of offense in each of their first 4 games and they were 2-2.

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I hope Redskin 1 is on it's way to pick up Hunter the Punter........

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[quote=GusFrerotte;742761]You just have to realize this is a game that in the grand scheme of things doesn't affect any of us.[/quote]

Which is exactly why I have no problem setting high expectations, and appreciating when they make good plays (heck even when they're lucky) and win. Why not enjoy the damn game?

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[quote=mooby;742762]I wasn't aware of that, but did they struggle enough to blow a 17 point lead and were also nearly last in yards given up and 10 play drives given up?

Now granted we're only 4 weeks in and there's a lot of football left to be played, but so far we experienced more of a dropoff than I figured. Some of what I've seen is poor tackling, some I feel is the result of overthinking and being too slow to react, but I didn't think it would be this bad.

Like I said before there's plenty of football left to be played and they did play much improved d today, so I'm not going to judge them too harshly anymore. I'm probably gonna hold my tongue for the rest of the season in fact because I feel like there isn't a good enough sample size to accurately judge what kind of defense we will have for the rest of the season.[/quote]

GB struggled quite a bit. They got shredded too in yards when they first transitioned. I remember this quite well as a good buddy of mine is a diehard GB fan. He complained for quite some time how he hated the 3.4 switch. They also had players playing out of position like Aaron Kampman(sp?). I think they have made some moves for better suited players and have had more time to absorb the system.

On another note, I don't care if we give up the most yards in the league. If we can hold teams to FGs that's fine.

Re: Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins at Eagles)
 

For people who argue that this game was meaningless, I disagree. Any game where you have a chance to take the division lead is a big game. They have won two big games this year. Maybe at the end of the year it doesn't mean much but right now it means everything.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;742778]For people who argue that this game was meaningless, I disagree. Any game where you have a chance to take the division lead is a big game. They have won two big games this year. Maybe at the end of the year it doesn't mean much but right now it means everything.[/quote]

Who in their right mind would call this game meaningless?

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[quote=Mattyk;742767]They gave up over 300 yards of offense in each of their first 4 games and they were 2-2.[/quote]

Touche.

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[quote=SmootSmack;742783]Who in their right mind would call this game meaningless?[/quote]

If we had lost I can only imagine what we would be calling it. The season would be over.

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[quote=Mattyk;742794]If we had lost I can only imagine what we would be calling it. The season would be over.[/quote]

The season wouldn't have been over but the outlook certainly would've been bad. 1-3 with Green Bay and the Colts coming up? I'm just glad we won so we're 2-2 now.

Re: Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins at Eagles)
 

So Green Bay next week...how do we feel about Aaron Rodgers coming to FedEx being blitzed and beating those blitzes?

Re: Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins at Eagles)
 

[quote=SmootSmack;742783]Who in their right mind would call this game meaningless?[/quote]


SCP said it didn't mean much.

You talked about the people who said this was all luck and were completely negative (although I can't help but think about you defending Saden's Goat thread 5 minutes after we beat Dallas).

At the end of the day, I am with you. If you win a game that puts you in first place, it is a big game. My 3 year old could figure that out.

Re: Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins at Eagles)
 

I got a question, why is our offense great in the first quarter, and then disappears in the rest of the game?

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[quote=CultBrennan59;742802]So Green Bay next week...how do we feel about Aaron Rodgers coming to FedEx being blitzed and beating those blitzes?[/quote]

Maybe Haslett will come up with an unique approach? Nobody said he has to blitz, he just comes up with what he feels is the best gameplan for success.

If Haslett does blitz all day and Aaron Rodgers has a field day, well we'll see. Or maybe Rodgers will anticipate playing coverage all day based on what we did against the Eagles. I don't know but these next two weeks will be a huge test to see if we really did improve against the Eagles or if this game was just an anomaly.

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I think the key against Green Bay will be to keep their WRs in check like we did against against the Iggles wideouts. My concern will be once again the check downs and throws to the middle of the field that seemed to be wide open in this game.

A big plus is that GB doesn't have much of a running game. Also, I am not sure how well their o-line is now, but they used to be not that great of a unit.

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[quote=SmootSmack;742783]Who in their right mind would call this game meaningless?[/quote]

Yeah....I'm scratching my head. I thought the only meaningless games in the NFL were ones played by teams that clinched the conference #1 seed.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;742804]SCP said it didn't mean much.

You talked about the people who said this was all luck and were completely negative (although I can't help but think about you defending Saden's Goat thread 5 minutes after we beat Dallas).

At the end of the day, I am with you. If you win a game that puts you in first place, it is a big game. My 3 year old could figure that out.[/quote]

Pssst, this is a goat thread.

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[quote=Ruhskins;742812]I think the key against Green Bay will be to keep their WRs in check like we did against against the Iggles wideouts. My concern will be once again the check downs and throws to the middle of the field that seemed to be wide open in this game.

A big plus is that GB doesn't have much of a running game. Also, I am not sure how well their o-line is now, but they used to be not that great of a unit.[/quote]

Now you've done it. That Kuhn kid is going to bust a big one on us.

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[quote=saden1;742813]Yeah....I'm scratching my head. I thought the only meaningless games in the NFL were ones played by teams that clinched the conference #1 seed.[/quote]

I don't think anybody called this game meaningless, but it certainly could've been inferred from one of the above posts.

I have no idea how a division game on the road could be called meaningless either.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;742818]Now you've done it. [B]That Kuhn kid is going to bust a big one on us.[/B][/quote]

TWSS...Zing!!

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[quote=mooby;742819]I don't think anybody called this game meaningless, but it certainly could've been inferred from one of the above posts.

I have no idea how a division game on the road could be called meaningless either.[/quote]

With all the pink gear on the field one could infer that the NFL is trying to tap into the gay sports fans market but that doesn't make it a wise inference.

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[quote=saden1;742817]Pssst, this is a goat thread.[/quote]

Good point, I didn't say it wasn't. Btw. Haynesworth rulz and you aren't allowed to jump on the bandwagon.

Re: Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins at Eagles)
 

Other than a being a big win, on the road in Philly, where the defense looked much improved against one of the NFL's better offenses, where we got some good contributions from relatively new players, which pulled us into a lead for the division, this game was meaningless.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;742642]Huge win!

And Banks should not be on the field when we're near the goal line.[/quote]

Yeah, by that time I was really suprised to see Kyle try to plug BBanks in by any means.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;742827]Good point, I didn't say it wasn't. Btw. Haynesworth rulz and you aren't allowed to jump on the bandwagon.[/quote]

He is all yours. I am told his crotch is the best seat on the wagon...I hope you called shotgun on it.

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[quote=saden1;742825]With all the pink gear on the field one could infer that the NFL is trying to tap into the gay sports fans market but that doesn't make it a wise inference.[/quote]

Nice talk, Russ...

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;742804]SCP said it didn't mean much.

You talked about the people who said this was all luck and were completely negative (although I can't help but think about you defending Saden's Goat thread 5 minutes after we beat Dallas).

At the end of the day, I am with you. If you win a game that puts you in first place, it is a big game. My 3 year old could figure that out.[/quote]

Well I must have missed that from SCP but I'm not sure he's thinking rationally tonight. He was so convinced all week we were going to lose, a Redskins W is probably messing with his head.

Apart from a Super Bowl win, I think its fine and good to have civilized discussions (even after a win) on where the team struggled and calling them out on it. I think that can be done while still appreciating/enjoying a win. And those like me, the "blind kool-aid drinkers" are capable of noticing our faults and where we need to improve.

It's all the "Oh my God, we're totally going to lose the game now" posts after a 7 yard gain on 2nd and 14 for the Eagles at their own 19 yard line trailing by two TDs late in the 4th that make no sense to me. I'm going to kind of call someone out here. I've seen a couple of games with someone here. And he couldn't be a nicer guy. But watching a game with him... I wanted to jump off the roof of a high-rise then fire a bullet in my mouth. It just took all the fun out of watching football.

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[quote=SmootSmack;742844][B]Well I must have missed that from SCP but I'm not sure he's thinking rationally tonight. [/B]He was so convinced all week we were going to lose, a Redskins W is probably messing with his head.

Apart from a Super Bowl win, I think its fine and good to have civilized discussions (even after a win) on where the team struggled and calling them out on it. I think that can be done while still appreciating/enjoying a win. And those like me, the "blind kool-aid drinkers" are capable of noticing our faults and where we need to improve.

It's all the "Oh my God, we're totally going to lose the game now" posts after a 7 yard gain on 2nd and 14 for the Eagles at their own 19 yard line trailing by two TDs late in the 4th that make no sense to me. I'm going to kind of call someone out here. I've seen a couple of games with someone here. And he couldn't be a nicer guy. But watching a game with him... I wanted to jump off the roof of a high-rise then fire a bullet in my mouth. It just took all the fun out of watching football.[/quote]

Too distracted by Cutlers bad game and concussion.

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I meant it didn't mean much in the sense of evaluating the "power" of this team. All this game showed is that we're more "powerful" than the Eagles, but only everrrrr so slightly. Both teams seem rather mediocre(Iggles with Kolb, that is.), and we've done NOTHING to show that we're better than mediocre.

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[quote=Lotus;742830]Other than a being a big win, on the road in Philly, where the defense looked much improved against one of the NFL's better offenses, where we got some good contributions from relatively new players, which pulled us into a lead for the division, this game was meaningless.[/quote]

Also, geniuses, here's the dude who really said this game was meaningless.

Re: Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins at Eagles)
 

Wow....:doh:

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;742827]Good point, I didn't say it wasn't. Btw. Haynesworth rulz and you aren't allowed to jump on the bandwagon.[/quote]

Just remember Pockets. The lease for the bandwagon is under my name. It would be in yours but you kept yelling at all the damn salespeople, and now we're left with a two person bandwagon :D

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;742868]I meant it didn't mean much in the sense of evaluating the "power" of this team. All this game showed is that we're more "powerful" than the Eagles, but only everrrrr so slightly. Both teams seem rather mediocre(Iggles with Kolb, that is.), and we've done NOTHING to show that we're better than mediocre.[/quote]

Now that's just crazy talk.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;742870]Also, geniuses, here's the dude who really said this game was meaningless.[/quote]

It's really nice to be acknowledged when you're a genius. That's very nice of you SCP. I wish more people on this board had your kindness and maturity.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;742886]Now that's just crazy talk.[/quote]

All of our opponents so far haven't shown themselves to be world beaters, and we haven't stomped them like clearly superior teams should(Like the Jets did to the Bills today). It's either a nail biter or in the case of the Rams, a blowout for them.

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[quote=mooby;742887]It's really nice to be acknowledged when you're a genius. That's very nice of you SCP. I wish more people on this board had your kindness and maturity.[/quote]

Love the sarcasm, but it's obvious people are conveniently pointing fingers at me for calling the game "meaningless" when it's someone else.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;742868]I meant it didn't mean much in the sense of evaluating the "power" of this team. All this game showed is that we're more "powerful" than the Eagles, but only everrrrr so slightly. Both teams seem rather mediocre(Iggles with Kolb, that is.), and we've done NOTHING to show that we're better than mediocre.[/quote]

You strike me as someone who enjoys being miserable...and please tell me you're not serious that Lotus is calling the game miserable

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[quote=SmootSmack;742894]You strike me as someone who enjoys being miserable...and please tell me you're not serious that Lotus is calling the game miserable[/quote]

Yea we just beat Dallas and Philly in our first division games, held both offenses out of the endzone pretty much and ran the ball great yesterday.

No need to start complaining let's all enjoy this win, it's already made a great start of the week for me. Chill out folks Things are getting better for our skins, yea we may not be a super bowl team this yr but give it a couple years.

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I can't blame Heyer. He's not a LT yet they keep putting him over there. How about putting Brown over at Lt and move Heyer to his natural position.

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Carlos Rogers couldn't catch Aids. Or pneumonia running buck naked soaking wet in Alaska. Im not bashing im just saying. But he can hit!!!! He body rocked one of the beagles!!! Go skins!

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[quote=Mattyk;742639]I totally avoided the game thread today because I had a feeling it would be chuck full of whining and complaining. The game was much more enjoyable to watch that way. :)[/quote]

I'm in total agreement with you here. Dissecting every single pay, chuck full of emotion gets whacky at times.

The game went very much like I expected, division opponent, hard fought physical game, the same as we always get when these two teams play. Vick having to leave early made a difference for the Eagles, and the running game finally came to life. The defense still spent far too much time on the field [especially in the second half]

Looking ahead, based on yesterdays games our next two opponents don't look so invincible after all. It was an ugly game to say the least, but I'd rather win ugly than to lose pretty.