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i just check the nfl home page rosters and stuff LJ is still unsigned. hes our best option if portis is going to be out for a long period of time. still thing we need to wait and draft some young legs.

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Oh well.... I am sure that BA will make a good move to get us the right back or this could be the start of a RB carolsel for the year.

This could be ATV's best chance to ever get going on a NFL roster.

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Still haven't seen a link on this, anyone?

re: Portis heard his groin "pop" (out 4-6 weeks)
 

[quote=cowboy h8er;743466]i just check the nfl home page rosters and stuff LJ is still unsigned. hes our best option if portis is going to be out for a long period of time. still thing we need to wait and draft some young legs.[/quote]


Best option? Then we are doomed. You do remember that he failed to run well and actually lost yards, 10 to be exact.

I'd rather we keep Torain as the lead rusher, bring back K.Williams, and have Simpson as the third back until her learns the offense. Depending on who runs better then they can shift the #2 and #3 RB if they see fit.

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It would be nice if there was someone out there that can block. That's where we're really going to miss CP if he's indeed out for the year.

re: Portis heard his groin "pop" (out 4-6 weeks)
 

[quote=Mattyk;743476]It would be nice if there was someone out there that can block. That's where we're really going to miss CP if he's indeed out for the year.[/quote]

Interesting how CP was supposedly the Skins top RB but all anyone talked about was his blocking, not his running. IMO, that show CP just wasnt an explosive top flite RB anymore. If CP is done I dont think it will be much of an adjustment for the O to have someone else carry the load.

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[quote=cowboy h8er;743453]parker is available but johnson found a home in NY. and i keep hearing about how well betts is doing in New Orleans..... i think well be better if our O-line improves.[/quote]

I watched a little of the game sunday & got to see Betts get a couple carries. He looks the same, still hits the hole quickly. I thought it was a hasty cut but I can see the logic, 30 yrs. old coming off an acl tear. He could still be here & he'd even become a decent blocker over the years.

re: Portis heard his groin "pop" (out 4-6 weeks)
 

I could be wrong but it seemed as though that ATV did pretty well in his blitz pickup in the second half.

re: Portis heard his groin "pop" (out 4-6 weeks)
 

[quote=skinsnut;743405]I dont understand the hate for Portis either...
The guy has stellar blocking skills and has shown a burst this year.
We had 3 over the hill backs on the squad and Torrain didn't even make the squad.
Even though I thought Torrain would have made the initial cut, I don't trust that he can be a starter in this league....I wish it...but wishing doesn't make it true...and a good GM should never put his trust in a wish. If Portis is seriously injured....we may be forced to make a trade for a decent back...because everyone knows....without Portis, we don't have a starting quality back.

I didn't see the first quarter...so I must be missing all the glory you guys are dumping on Torrain...what I saw was a back that didn't know when to turn upfield and make something out of nothing..and I really dont know if I'd get excited over 1 quarter of work when no team has game planned for you yet. I bet Portis would have done great this year if the blocking was there...that is the real issue...this team has only had 1 game with decent rushing numbers so far...so don't think the situation is resolved.

I like the idea of trading DT for a good back if needed.

And as for Gibbs ruining Portis...that's BS...he a RB...you run him till his tongue falls out when all you have is a running game....then you get a new one.
Remember...he got us to the playoffs twice. At least Gibbs USED all his talent...
Is it better overutilize your talent or underutilize it?
The current coaching staff has been a bit guilty of the latter.[/quote]

It's not so much about people hating on Portis as it is the realization that all good things must eventually come to an end.

You won't get much of an argument relevant to Portis's skills as a blocker, but to be depended on week in and week out as your featured back, he has to maintain a combined skills set both as a runner and a blocker and be able to stay on the field. His assortment of injuries over the past few years are beginning to take their toll, it's evident his abilities as a runner have visibly declined. Again, not hating on Clinton, just recognizing the obvious, something I don't think is lost on him as well. Like many good r/b before him, they often find it hard to admit to themselves the fact their skills may be [to some degree] diminishing.

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Here's your pick of the litter.......

[url=http://www.nfl.com/freeagency#players-tab-set-1:players-grid-container-position/players-list-links-position:pos-rb]NFL Events: Free Agency[/url]

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if we want to pick up lynch we better make more of an offer then the eagles who seem to be expecting vick to be out for some time if they are looking to improve their running game. there is a link on espn about the eagles contacting buffalo yesterday. also there is a pod cast on the espn nfl page about torain, hes talking about his role in the offense.

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[quote=irish;743479]Interesting how CP was supposedly the Skins top RB but all anyone talked about was his blocking, not his running. IMO, that show CP just wasnt an explosive top flite RB anymore. If CP is done I dont think it will be much of an adjustment for the O to have someone else carry the load.[/quote]

Well, his running is also going to be missed. He's not a workhorse #1 back anymore, but in a RB tandem he's certainly good enough.

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[quote=SBXVII;743484]Here's your pick of the litter.......

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/freeagency#players-tab-set-1:players-grid-container-position/players-list-links-position:pos-rb"]NFL Events: Free Agency[/URL][/quote]

Looks a little outdated

re: Portis heard his groin "pop" (out 4-6 weeks)
 

[quote=Mattyk;743471]Still haven't seen a link on this, anyone?[/quote]

This is all speculation... Nothing can be confirmed from ESPN or Florio.

Hopefully it is not too serious, trainers were stretching CP's groin before he went down.

A "pop" doesn't sound good but Steven Jackson played this week vs the Seahawks with a partial tear of his groin

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[quote=Mattyk;743486]Well, his running is also going to be missed. He's not a workhorse #1 back anymore, but in a RB tandem he's certainly good enough.[/quote]

He and Torain did a solid job against Philly as a one/two....I like that

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[quote=SBXVII;743484]Here's your pick of the litter.......

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/freeagency#players-tab-set-1:players-grid-container-position/players-list-links-position:pos-rb"]NFL Events: Free Agency[/URL][/quote]


That list is old. I saw more than a few names who are on teams now.

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[quote=Longtimefan;743483]It's not so much about people hating on Portis as it is the realization that all good things must eventually come to an end.

You won't get much of an argument relevant to Portis's skills as a blocker, but to be depended on week in and week out as your featured back, he has to maintain a combined skills set both as a runner and a blocker and be able to stay on the field. His assortment of injuries over the past few years are beginning to take their toll, it's evident his abilities as a runner have visibly declined. Again, not hating on Clinton, just recognizing the obvious, something I don't think is lost on him as well. Like many good r/b before him, they often find it hard to admit to themselves the fact their skills may be [to some degree] diminishing.[/quote]

I agree. I think part of Portis's problem is the fact that when he first arrived Gibbs wanted him to gain weight. He wanted Portis to be a power back when in reality Portis was a shifty back. However Portis did gain the weight and performed admirably. Then when Gibbs left Portis was not the same after he decided he was going to lose weight and become the shifty back again.

I'm not in any way saying Portis sucked, just pointing out that I think Portis was forced into a roll he should not have been forced into then for whatever reason lost a step trying to lose weight. Perhaps part of it was due to age though.

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[quote=firstdown;743463]Wow he showed that for what a few runs against one team. I remember a running back that ran for over 200 yards in the SB and did nothing else his entire life.[/quote]

So what are you saying here? All my statements were true. I'm not the only one that sees something in Torrain. In time so will you. He has shown as much as anyone else on the Skins did. It was a 1 quarter game for everyone.

I would be more concerned about McNabb if I were you. At the slightest bit of pressure he's throwing the ball at the ground.

I saw Timmy Smith too.

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[quote=Mattyk;743488]Looks a little outdated[/quote]

Didn't check that, I was just trying to find a list of RB's to look through and figured people would know who was decent or not. Especially any UFA's or Rookies that got cut.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;743336]So I guess Torain trucking over Mikell was a fluke? When was the last time Portis trucked anyone? Although I guess Portis is known more for speed than power. But his cuts are always sloppy... dude's always losing his footing... the Eagles game was better, but I still thought Torain was better. Portis can't even seem to stay healthy anymore. What's the point of having him when a new injury pops up after every game so far? Hand, ankle, groin. He's been hanging around Haynesworth a little too much? :Smoker:

Torain can't block for squat, but blocking is coachable, being on the downward trek of your career is inevitable, which I feel is where Portis is going. His better years are behind him, the guy is a 2nd stringer, 3rd down back at best.[/quote]


Every game if we're counting trucks on blocks...ask DeMarcus Ware if CP can still lay people out.

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i genuinely more concerned with facing mr. rogers and then manning in the next two weeks with the 31st overall passing defense. if we cant stop two of the top qb's in the league who cares if we can run the ball.

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[quote=cowboy h8er;743453]parker is available but johnson found a home in NY. and i keep hearing about how well betts is doing in New Orleans..... i think well be better if our O-line improves.[/quote]

LJ is unsigned. The Rams were checking him out last week after we hurt Steven Jackson, but he's still unsigned.


I'd rather have Parker than LJ actually, he looked HORRIBLE.

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SB.,,, what is with your SIG?

re: Portis heard his groin "pop" (out 4-6 weeks)
 

[quote=cowboy h8er;743501]i genuinely more concerned with facing mr. rogers and then manning in the next two weeks with the 31st overall passing defense. if we cant stop two of the top qb's in the league who cares if we can run the ball.[/quote]

Being able to run the ball helps to keep the ball out of those guy's hands.

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We are going to step up at home against both teams. We will win at least one. If Rodgers can catch, then the GB game could be a INT fest. A Rodgers makes good plays and then throws some really dumb passes that will give us a chance to swtich field position. We will see.

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[quote=mattyk;743504]being able to run the ball helps to keep the ball out of those guy's hands.[/quote]

^^^^^^^^^yup^^^^^^^^^

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;743503]SB.,,, what is with your SIG?[/quote]

I was just being stupid one day and have not changed it. It is from one of the songs Rush did.

re: Portis heard his groin "pop" (out 4-6 weeks)
 

Tom Sawyer to be exact.

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Listening to CP on the 106TheFan right now.

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Woops, my bad. I forgot. lol.

No you gotta go to Youtube and check out lincoln park rapist song. lol. sorry.

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peyton has proved to only need about 1 minuet to score.... good thing for us they have a horrible defense. torain will be fine as a starter against them, but the packers have one of the best run stopping d's in the league. we may have to rely one mcnabb's arm. could be a shoot out. hope rogers does get errant with some of his passes. (in halls direction)

re: Portis heard his groin "pop" (out 4-6 weeks)
 

Or simply type in Antoine Dodson.

Apparently Antoine's sister was almost raped. A guy climbed into a bedroom window and tried to attack the sister then he ran in to the room and grabbed the attacker and eventually the attacker jumped out a window. However the media interviewed the sister then Antoine gets on and .... I don't know he's just funny.

Then someone turned the interview into a song and it turned out to be funnier.

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[quote=SBXVII;743518]Or simply type in Antoine Dodson.

Apparently Antoine's sister was almost raped. A guy climbed into a bedroom window and tried to attack the sister then he ran in to the room and grabbed the attacker and eventually the attacker jumped out a window. However the media interviewed the sister then Antoine gets on and .... I don't know he's just funny.

Then someone turned the interview into a song and it turned out to be funnier.[/quote]

so you can run and tell that... HOMEBOY!

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Here ya go.....

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=civOdWxd4Kc]YouTube - FULL STORY !! Antoine Dodson AWeSOME!! OMG!! lol we LOVE LOVE YOU ANTOINE!![/url]

Here's the song....

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej-FAtA270c]YouTube - BEST Huntsville Rapist Bed Intruder (Antoine Dodson) Song Remix[/url]

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He's saying this is the first time he's had an injury like this.

Said he's very stiff, it's up "really high" near his "private spot", and he's waiting for the MRI results as we speak.

They asked him does he think he'll play, he said he was quick recovery but he sounded very doubtful.

Said he has no understanding or idea why DT isn't on the field. Said he's a great talent and kinda left it at that.

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^ Great talent doesn't always make it to the field. Coach's just don't leave great talent on the bench, especially if they could help the team.

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Is this list any better?

[URL="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/fa?positionId=9&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2ffa%3fpositionId%3d9"]NFL Free Agents Grades and Free Agency Rumors - National Football League - ESPN[/URL]

[B]Edit:[/B] apparently not. They still have Betts as released by the Saints.

re: Portis heard his groin "pop" (out 4-6 weeks)
 

Okay, it looks like Portis will be out for a while. It's sounding more and more like 3 weeks, maybe more.

re: Portis heard his groin "pop" (out 4-6 weeks)
 

i would like to trade away albert for some draft picks and hopefully nab mark ingram from bama so we can secure our future running game.

re: Portis heard his groin "pop" (out 4-6 weeks)
 

they want to trade thomas. why not try and use devin thomas in a trade to get Brandon Jacobs? He is unhappy in NY. He could come in and be a playmaker right away...let him and Torain split carries and we have a good tandem...