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I'd love to see an unexpected twist to the story...Tony Romo as a recipient of some Favre photos.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;747322]70% of married men cheat??? Now that's a load of BS.[/quote]

Yeah, that is complete bullshit.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;747355]Yeah, that is complete bullshit.[/quote]
Agreed. Who came up with that stat, Hillary Clinton?

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[quote=Chico23231;747095][URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cCAct6lJkk"]YouTube - Jenn Sterger - Maxim photo shoot: Jenn Sterger[/URL]

Good lord[/quote]

I'd hit it.

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[quote=SmootSmack;747161]That's ridiculous. If these allegations are true that's sexual harassment. And is the second time in a month the Jets have allegedly turned a blind eye to mistreatment of women in the workplace.[/quote]

Sorry but that stuff with the first girl was total 100% BS. If that girl doesn't want guys saying stuff to her then she needs to dress like a professional. Then the next day she's on every single morning talk show?? Total attention whore. This is a different story w/ Farve. But I'd let the facts come out. Maybe he was banging her and then sent the pics to her. If that was the case was it harassment?

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;747322]70% of married men cheat??? Now that's a load of BS.[/quote]

I thought it was higher.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;747178]Did you hurt yourself??[/quote]

I just sprained my Ego in two places. Recovery time two days.

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[quote=Chico23231;747095][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cCAct6lJkk]YouTube - Jenn Sterger - Maxim photo shoot: Jenn Sterger[/url]

Good lord[/quote]Meh, she's got ok boobs but exposed ribs beneath them; she could stand to eat a sandwich or two. So-so legs, no arse, and she isn't THAT pretty.

I'd hit it, but she isn't worth tarnishing an already languishing NFL career over. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Brett did this and I'm not a hater. He should be ashamed of himself and suspended for the rest of the season, effectively ending his career. If he worked in an office somewhere and was Mr. Joe Blow, he would already be out on his arse.

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[quote=44 70 chip;747276]You know whats PC? people getting outraged over a dude goofing around with a chick who was obviously into it over private comunications...

When Tiger was screwing around on his wife (a far more serious but also personal matter made public), the moral outrage was such a PC driven disingenuous load of BS... How many of the men who were feigning moral outrage at Tiger were part of the 70% of married men you cheat on their wives at least once in their marriage?

This thing with Favre goofing off sending crude texts or voice mails is just media and NFL PC witch hunt driven bull shizzle.

Wow you mean to tell me dumb jocks who never had to grow up are doing the equivalent of running out into the hall and waggling their peckers at the cheerleaders? Except now it's all texts and voice? *GASP* I am just sickened and saddened to learn that jocks can be crude, over testosteroned goofs!?

God I feel sorry for young people today having to grow up in such a uptight, oversensitive culture that is so quick to hang a victim label on the slightest silly BS, and then is so quick to don fake moral outrage.

I find this shocking* I am morally outraged* There is no excuse for this*

*nudge nudge, wink wink[/quote]How do you know she was in to it? Are you friends with her? How do you know she wasn't ashamed and didn't want to bring attention to herself, as is the case with a lot of sexual harrasment victims?

Who, in their place of employment, should have to put up with this type of "goofing off"? In what other job outside of the adult entertainment industry would this type of "goofing off" be tolerated? Would your boss just say to you "Ah, shucks, boys will be boys!" if you did this to some "chick" at work or would you be out on your ass?

Where are you pulling this "70%" statistic from?

Why is your post so laughably absurd?

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[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17951664/]Cheating hearts: Who's doing it and why - Health - Sexual health - msnbc.com[/url]

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Threads like these always serve as a good reminder of how mature, or immature, a lot of people here are

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[quote=SmootSmack;747434]Threads like these always serve as a good reminder of how mature, or immature, a lot of people here are[/quote]

Or crazy, ignorant, dumb, stupid, smart, intelligent, funny, not funny... the list goes on and on.

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[quote=warpaint;747393]I just sprained my Ego in two places. Recovery time two days.[/quote]

So one day per place basically.

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[quote=Mattyk;747438]Or crazy, ignorant, dumb, stupid, smart, intelligent, funny, not funny... the list goes on and on.[/quote]

That's what makes this place great. You always log off feeling better about yourself.

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I found a copy of the text message on Google:

[quote=Brett Favre to Jenn Sterger]
8====D
[/quote]

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[quote=SmootSmack;747434]Threads like these always serve as a good reminder of how mature, or immature, a lot of people here are [/quote]
[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;747447]I found a copy of the text message on Google:[/quote]
don't know what you are talkin bout SS

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[quote=ashvirtually;747408]How do you know she was in to it? Are you friends with her? How do you know she wasn't ashamed and didn't want to bring attention to herself, as is the case with a lot of sexual harassment victims?[/quote]

I think it's pretty obvious inference considering the material that was released, that's she seems to be a football groupy, and poses for mens T&A and soft core porn mags. (so obviously she has tight morals and doesn't want mens attention LOL)

But hey maybe I'm wrong, it's totally possible that she never flirted with the guy, played around, or said anything to lead him on. She's just a sideline reporter <que picture of her posing on sidelines with cut down jets half T-shirt and hip high jeans>

I'm sure it's totally normal for guys to send pics of their junk to women who ignore them and are completely disinterested... Us cave men males... we're always out raping and pillaging and texting pics of our dongs to innocent women.

So yeah whatever I'm sure the pics of male genatalia set her back 10 years on her path to nun-hood.

We're not talking about her boss or any criminal or legal claim of Sexual harassment.... We're talking about a jock goofing with a women who's major qualification for her job appears to be football groupy status, her body and appearances in playboy and maxim magazine as her resume.

What we're REALLY talking about is humorless tut tuting, Neo-prude PC say-the-politically-correct-thing-at-all-costs. Even at the cost of self respect, common sense, the truth or honesty.

[quote]
"Last winter, close to the Super Bowl, Ms. Sterger and I were discussing a possible collaboration on the proposed "Deadspin Swimsuit Project," which turned into a conversation about the whole "athlete dong photo" phenomenon. She claimed that she's been on the receiving end of several of those types of cell phone interactions by drunk men, some of whom were professional athletes. We later had a phone conversation about who some of the more well-known dong-shot senders were."[/quote]

So apparently in her universe "dong shots" were a commonplace occurrence... Seems a little far fetched to surmise that she had nothing at all to do with any of that. How many women do you know that receive multiple "dong shots" from different men, out of sheer coincidence? But we'll only ever know her side of the story.

[quote=ashvirtually;747408]
Where are you pulling this "70%" statistic from?[/quote]

That I admit was a hazy recollection of some big study decades ago, and it might have been more about "men who have seriously contemplated cheating" than actual cheating.

I know there are polls that suggest less than half, but then you can find guys who think a BJ isn't cheating so I'm not sure how much stock to put in a poll that asks men if they have cheated before. Which also assume they are answering truthfully

[quote=ashvirtually;747408]
Why is your post so laughably absurd?[/quote]

Why do you need to stoop to insults? Don't have much else to bring to the discussion? Do you normally get that defensive when someone holds an opinion that you don't agree with? Why does my honesty threaten your sense of propriety so much?

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How come I'm having trouble viewing all the posts or the last post made in the thread? Anyone?

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[quote=44 70 chip;747460]I think it's pretty obvious inference considering the material that was released, that's she seems to be a football groupy, and poses for mens T&A and soft core porn mags. (so obviously she has tight morals and doesn't want mens attention LOL)

But hey maybe I'm wrong, it's totally possible that she never flirted with the guy, played around, or said anything to lead him on. She's just a sideline reporter <que picture of her posing on sidelines with cut down jets half T-shirt and hip high jeans>

I'm sure it's totally normal for guys to send pics of their junk to women who ignore them and are completely disinterested... Us cave men males... we're always out raping and pillaging and texting pics of our dongs to innocent women.

So yeah whatever I'm sure the pics of male genatalia set her back 10 years on her path to nun-hood.

We're not talking about her boss or any criminal or legal claim of Sexual harassment.... We're talking about a jock goofing with a women who's major qualification for her job appears to be football groupy status, her body and appearances in playboy and maxim magazine as her resume.

What we're REALLY talking about is humorless tut tuting, Neo-prude PC say-the-politically-correct-thing-at-all-costs. Even at the cost of self respect, common sense, the truth or honesty.[/quote]Jesus Christ.

This isn't "a jock goofing off". This is a professional, paid athlete sending cock pictures and dirty messages to professional, independent contractors, a situation known in any work-related, professional setting as SEXUAL HARASSMENT for which YOU or I could fired.

Period. End of story.

NOBODY should have to put up with this type of "goofing off" on the job. How she dresses [U]at work[/U] is immaterial! What she sees in the locker room [U]at work[/U] is immaterial!

Neither is an invitation for you or Brett to send her pictures of your cocks or unwanted sexually-laced messages. This is basic professionalism-on-the-job stuff here. It's called How to Refrain from a Hostile Work Environment 101, stuff that any "cave man male" or otherwise intellectually-challenged twit would avoid if they want to keep their job and not be sued.

And bottom line, since you don't know this woman, you can't speak for her.

Try using "politically correct" in its proper context or don't use it all; it has no place here since you are obviously twisting its meaning out of all sense of definition or proportion.

[quote=44 70 chip;747460]So apparently in her universe "dong shots" were a commonplace occurrence... Seems a little far fetched to surmise that she had nothing at all to do with any of that. How many women do you know that receive multiple "dong shots" from different men, out of sheer coincidence? But we'll only ever know her side of the story.[/quote]The pictures and texts speak for themselves. She doesn't have to offer justification to you or anyone else about the evidence at hand. They are [I]prima facie[/I] inappropriate, unprofessional, and conducive to a hostile work environment that NO ONE should be forced to work in. Any Joe Blow on this board doing this stuff at work tomorrow would be fired on the spot, and any Joe Blow on this board defending it ("He was just goofing off, boss, gee whiz, don't be so PC!") the other Joe Blow doing it would be laughed and shamed out of the office.

Again, that's How to Refrain from a Hostile Work Environment 101 stuff that any dolt should know.

[quote=44 70 chip;747460]That I admit was a hazy recollection of some big study decades ago, and it might have been more about "men who have seriously contemplated cheating" than actual cheating.

I know there are polls that suggest less than half, but then you can find guys who think a BJ isn't cheating so I'm not sure how much stock to put in a poll that asks men if they have cheated before. Which also assume they are answering truthfully.[/quote]Ah, I see, it was a nonsense number you pulled out of thin air and mixed it with vague anecdotal and personal vapidity and such.

Cool.

[quote=44 70 chip;747460]Why do you need to stoop to insults? Don't have much else to bring to the discussion? Do you normally get that defensive when someone holds an opinion that you don't agree with? Why does my honesty threaten your sense of propriety so much?[/quote]I didn't insult you, I insulted your post, which was and is absurd. You not agreeing with me is the least of that post's problems, and I don't get defensive with people who are merely loudly wrong.

But you outdid yourself with the one to which I am responding now. So, carry on...

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Someone being flirty isn't justification to text a pic of your junk to them

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[quote=SmootSmack;747473]Someone being flirty isn't justification to text a pic of your junk to them[/quote]

In the HYPOTHETICAL case that she had acknowledged and encouraged Brett's actions, should there be ramifications?


I don't think we will really know the truth in the matter ever, especially now that it is so public, but suppose Goodell interviews both, and in the privacy of his office, they both say that it was a mutual communication. Should Favre be fined, or punished under the protect the shield notion?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;747478][B]In the HYPOTHETICAL case that she had acknowledged and encouraged Brett's actions, should there be ramifications? [/B]
I don't think we will really know the truth in the matter ever, especially now that it is so public, but suppose Goodell interviews both, and in the privacy of his office, they both say that it was a mutual communication. Should Favre be fined, or punished under the protect the shield notion?[/quote]

No! If it was an affair gone bad where someones feelings got hurt, then there shouldn't be anytype off backlash or punishment by the League or public. On the other hand his wife is a diffrent story. She has the right to do anything she wants to this drama queen.

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Well I believe there are two other members of the Jets organization who say Favre was acting inappropriately toward them though I haven't totally followed that part of the story

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[quote=SmootSmack;747491]Well I believe there are two other members of the Jets organization who say Favre was acting inappropriately toward them though I haven't totally followed that part of the story[/quote]

The massage therapist?

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[quote=warpaint;747488]No! If it was an affair gone bad where someones feelings got hurt, then there shouldn't be anytype off backlash or punishment by the League or public. On the other hand his wife is a diffrent story. She has the right to do anything she wants to this drama queen.[/quote]

I do not think Roger Goddell and the NFL personal conduct policy will agree with you. Even if the girl begged him to send the pictures, it is illegal in the NFL rules because it is the the place of work for both of them. If he did send her those pictures and the NFL can prove they came from his phone, he will get in trouble by the league. Maybe they will do a line up? Kidding.
Especially after the Roethliesburger-gate 1 and 2 and the Jets situation with the bimbo from Spanish TV, I do not think Goddel is going to be particularly lenient.

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[quote=Defensewins;747498]I do not think Roger Goddell and the NFL personal conduct policy will not agree with you. Even if the girl begged him to send the pictures, it is illegal in the NFL rules because it is the the place of work for both of them. If he did send her those pictures and the NFL can prove they came from his phone, he will get in trouble by the league. Maybe they will do a line up? Kidding.
Especially after the Roethliesburger-gate 1 and 2 and the Jets situation with the bimbo from Spanish TV, I do not think Goddel is going to be particularly lenient.[/quote]

Yeah, most of the time Farve would have probably encountered a stern warning and a hefty fine. However his advances were directed at a Jets employee, maybe even as many as 3.

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[quote=ashvirtually;747470]Jesus Christ.

This isn't "a jock goofing off". This is a professional, paid athlete sending cock pictures and dirty messages to professional, independent contractors[/quote]

LOL good luck with that fantasy, clearly you're going to try and spin this into bizaro world where a hip jeans wearing exposed midriff half shirt clad with jets logo torn down the middle of said logo to expose more cleavage is a "professional"...

Either because you have no idea who you are mislabeling a professional or because you do but that fantasy notion suits your narrative so you're being deliberately obtuce.

Anyway not much point is addressing the rest of your post as it's about workplace harassment which she's not made it out to be.

Just had to point out what lengths someone will go to, to rationalize a case of sophomoric behavior into something worthy of feigned moral outrage.

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[quote=Defensewins;747498]I do not think Roger Goddell and the NFL personal conduct policy will not agree with you. Even if the girl begged him to send the pictures, it is illegal in the NFL rules because it is the the place of work for both of them. If he did send her those pictures and the NFL can prove they came from his phone, he will get in trouble by the league. Maybe they will do a line up? Kidding.
Especially after the Roethliesburger-gate 1 and 2 and the Jets situation with the [B]bimbo from Spanish TV[/B], I do not think Goddel is going to be particularly lenient.[/quote]

I agree with your everything else you said here it is all up in the air with this Favre thing.

To call this lady a bimbo because, she has a banging ass body doesn't sit well with me. All she was doing was here job and you have the Jets once again in a dilema on their ethics and charactor as an organization. Thats her style and their are plenty of side line reports in similiar clothing I see nothing wrong with her style of dress.

Now Roethliesburger is just scum, that should be locked up.

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[quote=warpaint;747501]I agree with your everything else you said here it is all up in the air with this Favre thing.

To call this lady a bimbo because, she has a banging ass body doesn't sit well with me. All she was doing was here job and you have the Jets once again in a dilema on their ethics and charactor as an organization. Thats her style and their are plenty of side line reports in similiar clothing I see nothing wrong with her style of dress.

Now Roethliesburger is just scum, that should be locked up.[/quote]

Roethilesburger should be locked up. Roethlisberger however, makes his debut Sunday.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;747506]Roethilesburger should be locked up. Rothelisberger however, makes his debut Sunday.[/quote]

I hate the Big Ben situation. Way to much doubt about what went on. As cruel as it sounds the Chris Brown situation was easier because it was cut and dry. I knew I could hate the guy with a passion and not have to worry about weather or not he was falsely accused. However like I said with the Big Ben scenario, theres to many question marks for me to look at him with utter disgust.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;747507]I hate the Big Ben situation. Way to much doubt about what went on. As cruel as it sounds the Chris Brown situation was easier because it was cut and dry. I knew I could hate the guy with a passion and not have to worry about weather or not he was falsely accused. However like I said with the Big Ben scenario, theres to many question marks for me to look at him with utter disgust.[/quote]

Same here. I don't know what happened, I don't care what happened, so until something concrete happens we should just let it go.

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[quote=44 70 chip;747500]LOL good luck with that fantasy, clearly you're going to try and spin this into bizaro world where a hip jeans wearing exposed midriff half shirt clad with jets logo torn down the middle of said logo to expose more cleavage is a "professional"...

Either because you have no idea who you are mislabeling a professional or because you do but that fantasy notion suits your narrative so you're being deliberately obtuce.

Anyway not much point is addressing the rest of your post as it's about workplace harassment which she's not made it out to be.

Just had to point out what lengths someone will go to, to rationalize a case of sophomoric behavior into something worthy of feigned moral outrage.[/quote]

Quit while you are behind. Seriously.
The NFL does not care what your opinion is about the girl and frankly it does not matter. It does not matter how professional she is or not, or what she wears. They both work there in the Jets complex and in the stadium and you can not send pictures like that to a coworker. If you do you are dumb and you are breaking the law. Comprende?

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[quote=warpaint;747501]I agree with your everything else you said here it is all up in the air with this Favre thing.

[B]To call this lady a bimbo because, she has a banging ass body doesn't sit well with me. All she was doing was here job and you have the Jets once again in a dilema on their ethics and charactor as an organization. Thats her style and their are plenty of side line reports in similiar clothing I see nothing wrong with her style of dress. [/B]

Now Roethliesburger is just scum, that should be locked up.[/quote]

No, I do not call her a bimbo because she is hot or the the way she dresses. I do not judge people by the way they dress or look.
I call her a bimbo because I am latin and I speak spanish. I have met this women and have seen her interviews in spanish here at my job on a couple of diffrent occasions while she interviewed players. She passes herself off as a flirt and not particularity very smart. She flirts with the players and plays the part of an attractive air head and flirtatious interviewer. Not very professional. That by definition a bimbo.

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Defensewins...mi hermano! I had no idea. How's Yao?

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[quote=SmootSmack;747514]Defensewins...mi hermano! I had no idea. How's Yao?[/quote]

You mean you cant tell by my accent?
Yao is in China with the rest of the team. They won last night.
Yao is finally healthy but they will limit his time since they play so many games.
Luis Scola arrived in China yesterday and had to turn around immediately because his wife went into labor here in Houston. Ouch, many hours on a plane.

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Why'd he go in the first place? Wasn't he expecting her to deliver soon, or was it much earlier than expected?

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Funny, I said the very same thing. I am not sure when she was expected to deliver. I did see her here on Saturday night's game and she looked...pregnant?

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Wasn't it Chris Rocks that said a man is as faithful as his options? Tiger is celebrating I am sure...he probably shouldn't seeing how he lost is #1 world ranking the other day.

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[quote=warpaint;747501]I agree with your everything else you said here it is all up in the air with this Favre thing.

To call this lady a bimbo because, she has a banging ass body doesn't sit well with me. All she was doing was here job and you have the Jets once again in a dilema on their ethics and charactor as an organization. Thats her style and their are plenty of side line reports in similiar clothing I see nothing wrong with her style of dress.

Now Roethliesburger is just scum, that should be locked up.[/quote]


She is a bimbo. Did you see some of those pics of her on the job? I don't see how she could walk in that really tight pair of jeans she wore during interviews at practice, with a cutoff shirt. Not exactly professional, and more than likely looking to bait a player or two. It is funny, we live in an era of sexual liberation, and have been for the entire span of my 40 years on this planet. It is rather amusing how society still thinks of young women as virginal, etc, when if you were to timewarp young women from the Victorian era to the present day, they would think practically every woman around was a whore. Skin tight jeans and a midriff shirt isn't professional, unless you are a hooker.

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There are plenty of professions where people wear tight jeans and are professional, that doesn't equate to being a whore, bimbo, or hooker