Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=SouperMeister;749375]Or perhaps Haynesworth collapses the pocket a couple times allowing Orakpo or others to get hits/sacks on Manning.[/quote]


Yeah right, like he is a DPOY or something...

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=SouperMeister;749375]Or perhaps Haynesworth collapses the pocket a couple times allowing Orakpo or others to get hits/sacks on Manning.[/quote]

Which is exactly what he was signed for.

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;749379]Yeah right, like he is a DPOY or something...[/quote]

?????

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=53Fan;749380]Which is exactly what he was signed for.[/quote]

Thank you!!!! I just hope he help us or leaves us.

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

Hey at least we keep the guy fresh for the real meat and potatoes of our schedule coming up!

Pockets you need a valium?

AH not playing was not really why we lost this game.

Blame it on the INT drops or the miraculous catches the Colts had or the missed FG by Gano in the first half. Hell or the way we didnt move the football until the fourth quarter again. We had chance to win more than a few times without him.

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;749369]The man's brother died. You really think that is a difficult ****ing argument?[/quote]

AH showed up to the game tonight (in a suite) so it must not have been that difficult, im sure he is cashing his game check too. My grandfather died and i showed up the next day of work (8hrs) AH only has to roughly show up for 30 min per week, and for that he gets paid millions. Suck it up. I understand his brother passed away and I am sure that is difficult, but cmon two weeks of missed games, which equates to an hour of actual play time?

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=Stacks42;749385]AH showed up to the game tonight (in a suite) so it must not have been that difficult, im sure he is cashing his game check too. My grandfather died and i showed up the next day of work (8hrs) AH only has to roughly show up for 30 min per week, and for that he gets paid millions. Suck it up. I understand his brother passed away and I am sure that is difficult, but cmon two weeks of missed games, which equates to an hour of actual play time?[/quote]

You have no idea what he went through unless it was your brother too. Btw. He showed up to work and was not allowed to step on the field. So what exactly is your point?

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

Didnt Brett Farve show up and play a game after his father died?

AND SMOKE THE RAIDERS

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;749384]Hey at least we keep the guy fresh for the real meat and potatoes of our schedule coming up!

Pockets you need a valium?

AH not playing was not really why we lost this game.

Blame it on the INT drops or the miraculous catches the Colts had or the missed FG by Gano in the first half. Hell or the way we didnt move the football until the fourth quarter again. We had chance to win more than a few times without him.[/quote]

Why would I need a valium. You can pick out a hundred reasons why we lost, I just wish one of them wasn't that we sat our most talented player for no reason.

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

But how do you really feel that AH would have done with the NO HUDDLE/QUICK OFFENSE, especially more than likely not beeing 100% inshape.

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;749387]Didnt Brett Farve show up and play a game after his father died?

AND SMOKE THE RAIDERS[/quote]


He did, and his coach didn't bench him. Go figure....

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=SouperMeister;749375]Or perhaps Haynesworth collapses the pocket a couple times allowing Orakpo or others to get hits/sacks on Manning.[/quote]

I have considered that possible, but Haslett had the guys shifting positions and doing quick subbing. AH was not up to speed with that part of the gameplan.
However, I'll admit I'm not sure if he should have been deactivated. But if he was active, he wouldn't have been in on many plays.

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It is all done and over with now. We had a chance to win. We didn't. Next week we do.

AND we go into Detroit for some much needed pay back of the Lions. Then it is on to the bye week. 5-3.

Philly and the Giants have 2 tough weeks of games coming up.

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=Darrell_Green_28;749389]But how do you really feel that AH would have done with the NO HUDDLE/QUICK OFFENSE, especially more than likely not beeing 100% inshape.[/quote]


I guess we will never know, huh... I know this. We lost.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;749391]I have considered that possible, but Haslett had the guys shifting positions and doing quick subbing. AH was not up to speed with that part of the gameplan.
However, I'll admit I'm not sure if he should have been deactivated. But if he was active, he wouldn't have been in on many plays.[/quote]

Nothing personal but that is pure speculation. The bottom line is that we have no idea what would have happened because our coaches decided to sit our most talented player.

Either way, our defensive gameplan didn't work and NO ONE can dispute that.

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=Darrell_Green_28;749389]But how do you really feel that AH would have done with the NO HUDDLE/QUICK OFFENSE, especially more than likely not beeing 100% inshape.[/quote]

He would have been sucking air in the first half. I know that. They were so quick getting into thier next play in the first and second quarter it was mind boggling how well Manning was executing the offense. I thought we were going to get blown out.

We held them to 10 points in the second half.

BTW I love how we are getting some big missed FGs at FedEx this year. Good kickers are having a real hard time there.

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;749392]It is all done and over with now. We had a chance to win. We didn't. Next week we do.

AND we go into Detroit for some much needed pay back of the Lions. Then it is on to the bye week. 5-3.

Philly and the Giants have 2 tough weeks of games coming up.[/quote]

If you are fine with a loss when our most talented player is sat for a coches decision..more power to you.

If we end up 8-8 while 9-7 gets you in the playoffs, I am not going to be very nice on this board...

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;749397]He would have been sucking air in the first half. I know that. They were so quick getting into thier next play in the first and second quarter it was mind boggling how well Manning was executing the offense. I thought we were going to get blown out.

We held them to 10 points in the second half.

BTW I love how we are getting some big missed FGs at FedEx this year. Good kickers are having a real hard time there.[/quote]

Actually, you dont' know. I know this, we lost.

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;749376]How did that gameplan work out? What they would have given up 600 yards with Albert out there? Please.....[/quote]

Uhh how the **** do you know what would've happened with Haynesworth in there? Let it ****ing go. We just played Peyton f'n Manning, we could've had our best 11 on the field and it wouldn't have mattered if Peyton knew where to go with the ball.

I mean seriously you're acting like we didn't get pressure on him. Even when we did get pressure on him, he still got it out quick.

Do you remember playing the Rams, blitzing on every down and allowing Sam ****in Bradford to shred our defense? Face it, you're just looking for crappy ass excuses as to why our defense got shredded by Manning. If you haven't noticed before today, our defense has gotten shredded by other quarterbacks, most notably Matt Schaub and Sam Bradford. Would've Haynesworth have made a difference in those games too? Oh wait, he did play in the St. Louis game, and Bradford still shredded us.

Our defense has played good this season, most notably against Green Bay, Philly, and Dallas, and has also played poorly this season, against Houston, St. Louis, and now Indy, and have you noticed any trend there? Well, I'll tell you this. Haynesworth was active against Philly and Dallas and St. Louis. He only played great against Philly, and was pretty much nonexistent in those other two. All I'm trying to say is that it probably wouldn't have made much difference if he was in there. All we had to do was confuse Peyton Manning, but along with the majority of the teams in the NFL, we couldn't, and it cost us.

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;749395]Nothing personal but that is pure speculation. The bottom line is that we have no idea what would have happened because our coaches decided to sit our most talented player.

Either way, our defensive gameplan didn't work and NO ONE can dispute that.[/quote]

It may be speculation, but if I have to face Peyton Manning going quick no huddle and thus prevent me from subbing, I sure as hell would want my guys to know exactly what the hell they're doing. And it's not like Albert was totally effective every time he has played. Teams have exploited his overaggressiveness before.

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It is not that I am fine with it Pockets, i just think that there were bigger reasons why we lost then AH not playing.

AH may have the most talent, but we have guys who play with a hell of alot more heart and fire than him. AND that most talent arguement is fading quickly when you have guys playing like Rak and Landry are this year.

We all have not seen AH play very well this year.

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;749401]It may be speculation, but if I have to face Peyton Manning going quick no huddle and thus prevent me from subbing, I sure as hell would want my guys to know exactly what the hell they're doing. And it's not like Albert was totally effective every time he has played. Teams have exploited his overaggressiveness before.[/quote]

Well we lost a 3 point game. (hopefully no one will argue this). If Al makes one big play, it could have made a difference.

We had one sack, you honestly think it would have hurt us to have a DPOY on the field tonight?

More power to you.

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;749403]It is not that I am fine with it Pockets, i just think that there were bigger reasons why we lost then AH not playing.

AH may have the most talent, but we have guys who play with a hell of alot more heart and fire than him. AND that most talent arguement is fading quickly when you have guys playing like Rak and Landry are this year.

We all have not seen AH play very well this year.[/quote]

You think Philly wishes he had played more?

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;749404]Well we lost a 3 point game. (hopefully no one will argue this). If Al makes one big play, it could have made a difference.

We had one sack, you honestly think it would have hurt us to have a DPOY on the field tonight?

More power to you.[/quote]
It can go the other way too. Albert charges up the field and Addai runs right by him for a big gain.

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=mooby;749400]Uhh how the **** do you know what would've happened with Haynesworth in there? Let it ****ing go. We just played Peyton f'n Manning, we could've had our best 11 on the field and it wouldn't have mattered if Peyton knew where to go with the ball.

I mean seriously you're acting like we didn't get pressure on him. Even when we did get pressure on him, he still got it out quick.

Do you remember playing the Rams, blitzing on every down and allowing Sam ****in Bradford to shred our defense? Face it, you're just looking for crappy ass excuses as to why our defense got shredded by Manning. If you haven't noticed before today, our defense has gotten shredded by other quarterbacks, most notably Matt Schaub and Sam Bradford. Would've Haynesworth have made a difference in those games too? Oh wait, he did play in the St. Louis game, and Bradford still shredded us.

Our defense has played good this season, most notably against Green Bay, Philly, and Dallas, and has also played poorly this season, against Houston, St. Louis, and now Indy, and have you noticed any trend there? Well, I'll tell you this. Haynesworth was active against Philly and Dallas and St. Louis. He only played great against Philly, and was pretty much nonexistent in those other two. All I'm trying to say is that it probably wouldn't have made much difference if he was in there. All we had to do was confuse Peyton Manning, but along with the majority of the teams in the NFL, we couldn't, and it cost us.[/quote]

I am not fine with pissing away games. You ****ing get over it. WE FUCING lost ****face. ANY ARGUMENT THERE? SMARTEN THE **** UP

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;749406]It can go the other way too. Albert charges up the field and Addai runs right by him for a big gain.[/quote]

So he would have gotten 47 instead of 46?

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No of course not. I wish the guy would come out and been dedicated to the damn team again. This is a team now. We play as a team. I know the guy had a death in the family, but why the hell didnt he get his but up here for the week of practice. He could have made an effort to be here when by tuesday of this week to make sure he was in the game this Sunday.

A good way to heal from tragedy is to get back into your routine. I have had to deal with tragic events and this is a good way to move forward.

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;749407]I am not fine with pissing away games. You ****ing get over it. WE FUCING lost ****face. ANY ARGUMENT THERE? SMARTEN THE **** UP[/quote]

Albert could have saved us. He also could have helped piss away the game anyway. He's 50/50 with regards to whether he makes a good play or a bad one.

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I am going to bed. I will leave with this. IF YOU THINK THIS TEAM IS BETTER WITH AH ON THE BENCH, YOU and I mean YOU, KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL.

Don't agree with me? Ask Brian Mitchell and Doc Walker (both have Super Bowl rings).

SMARTEN THE **** UP.

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;749409]So he would have gotten 47 instead of 46?[/quote]

Dude, Albert is not indomitable on the field. When he's tired, he's utterly worthless. His aggression has also been used against him.

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;749413]I am going to bed. I will leave with this. IF YOU THINK THIS TEAM IS BETTER WITH AH ON THE BENCH, YOU and I mean YOU, KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL.

Don't agree with me? Ask Brian Mitchell and Doc Walker (both have Super Bowl rings).

SMARTEN THE **** UP.[/quote]

I suggest that you take off the rose-colored glasses for your boy.

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;749410]No of course not. I wish the guy would come out and been dedicated to the damn team again. This is a team now. We play as a team. I know the guy had a death in the family, but why the hell didnt he get his but up here for the week of practice. He could have made an effort to be here when by tuesday of this week to make sure he was in the game this Sunday.

A good way to heal from tragedy is to get back into your routine. I have had to deal with tragic events and this is a good way to move forward.[/quote]


You are not him and you shouldn't assume how he should or shouldn't deal with losing his brother. Either way, he practiced two days and was held out and, oh by the way, we lost a 3 point game.

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I do know that without our stubborn coach Mike S. We arent even in this game.

This year has been some of the best football this team has played in years. The emphasis on TEAM.

He is coaching and running the franchise the way it needs to be run.

I back him 100%.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;749415]I suggest that you take off the rose-colored glasses for your boy.[/quote]

Lol. Answer one ? Did we win tonight?

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

Can we at least agree on the fact that without Mike S. and #5 we are not even in this game or 3-3 at this point?

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;749419]I do know that without our stubborn coach Mike S. We arent even in this game.

This year has been some of the best football this team has played in years. The emphasis on TEAM.

He is coaching and running the franchise the way it needs to be run.

I back him 100%.[/quote]


You think the team is mad at Al for going to his brother's funeral?

I really have seen some ignorance in this thread tonight. Either way Peyton Manning ****ed us in the a$$ tonight. This whole cumbaya horseshit is nice but I would rather lose with our best player on the field.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;749420]Lol. Answer one ? Did we win tonight?[/quote]
That assumes he would have had a significant positive effect in the game. Now, what has he shown that he has consistently excelled in THIS scheme?

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;749379]Yeah right, like he is a DPOY or something...[/quote]

Your contradicting yourself

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;749407]I am not fine with pissing away games. You ****ing get over it. WE FUCING lost ****face. ANY ARGUMENT THERE? SMARTEN THE **** UP[/quote]

You sound like a dumbass man.

Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;749413]I am going to bed. I will leave with this. IF YOU THINK THIS TEAM IS BETTER WITH AH ON THE BENCH, YOU and I mean YOU, KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL.

Don't agree with me? Ask Brian Mitchell and Doc Walker (both have Super Bowl rings).

SMARTEN THE **** UP.[/quote]

I'm pretty glad you're going to bed, because your worthless attitude is bringing me down. You are the biggest pisser and moaner I've ever had the displeasure of talking to on a message board, and the fact that you can't even debate without losing your temper tells me all I need to know about you. It's a shame I'm a fan of the same team as you, because I'm embarressed to have people like you representing my favorite team.

Riddle me this asshole: If Albert Haynesworth would've made all the difference against the Colts, why did he let Sam Bradford look like Peyton Manning against us? Was it Shanny holding him back? Let me know because once you give me your answer I'll be sure to give you the distinguished honor of being the first Redskins fan I've ever talked to on this message board to be added to my ignore list.