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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;751741]You have consistently proven that you aren't, that being said. I like your passion.[/quote]


Why do you feel the need to insult people all the time?

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Yeah I gto no problem being the number 1 pumped game on fox.

PS- what is the deal with still going on about AH? He had a great game today and the last he played in.

We get is about the Colts game, but stop getting on guys who were sick of the drama of the offseason.

BTW I am one of the gauys who is pulling for this guy to succeed, because he makes our defense that much better. He proved alot today and played alot. Barring injury I think this whole MS AH drama is over now. Time to just move on and play football.

Troy can be unbiased towards the Redskins at times and I think we can be over critical when he critizes our team because he is a Ex-Cowboy. Let it go.

I would much rather be the pumped game by fox then the lowly game on the schedule.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;751811]Why do you feel the need to insult people all the time?[/quote]

I was answering her insult.

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[quote=skinsguy;751743]I disagree. I don't see anything excessive about Hall's celebration in the end zone. It is when two or more players demonstrate a choreographed celebration after a score that usually gets the penalty. I've seen far worse celebrations that are absolutely legal. As far as I'm concerned, it was a good call by the officials and Akiman was wrong. Any other time, I usually agree with Akiman and overall, he's a good commentator, but I don't agree with him in this regard.[/quote]

Going by the rules, it's a penalty. Doesn't matter if it's excessive or not.

Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1(d) prohibits players “from engaging in any celebrations while on the ground."

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;751813]I was answering her insult.[/quote]

saden is a girl????

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[quote=Mattyk;751819]Going by the rules, it's a penalty. Doesn't matter if it's excessive or not.

Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1(d) prohibits players “from engaging in any celebrations while on the ground."[/quote]


I know you're right, but I hate that.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;751792]I coulda sworn the "advice needed..." thread was the dumbest. Don't make me bump that again. :D[/quote]

Well at least that thread was more literate. From the way he types I'm quite suprised he was able to navigate a computer and find out how to post a thread.

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Mooby sorry about the missunderstanding last night

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;751828]Mooby sorry about the missunderstanding last night[/quote]

Lol don't worry about it. :food-smil

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[quote=Mattyk;751693]Going to the ground [B]should[/B] be a penalty. Like it or not he's right.[/quote]

Is that a rule? I don't think so, not written as such anyway. Interpretation is pretty suspect. I mean is sliding on your "two" knees worse than the Lambeau Leap? NO!

Sorry, but that is the most idiotic thing I ever heard Aikman say. I think he's probably one of the best commentators out there, but c'mon, really?

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;751737]This is the stupidest thread ever.[/quote]

Definitely in the discussion, no doubt.

Especially since last week and week 1 was on NBC so... no Aikman. Week 2 was on CBS so again... no Aikman. Week 3 also = no Aikman. So what we really have is Aikman has done 2 of our 7 games. Another reason why this thread is a mega fail.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;751831]Is that a rule? I don't think so, not written as such anyway. Interpretation is pretty suspect. I mean is sliding on your "two" knees worse than the Lambeau Leap? NO!

Sorry, but that is the most idiotic thing I ever heard Aikman say. I think he's probably one of the best commentators out there, but c'mon, really?[/quote]

Yes, really.

Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1(d) prohibits players “from engaging in any celebrations while on the ground."

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[quote=Mattyk;751836]Yes, really.

Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1(d) prohibits players “from engaging in any celebrations while on the ground."[/quote]

So if a guy got thrown into the endzone and landed on his back, then raised his arms in the air in celebration while he was still on his back, then he's excessively celebrating?

While your point is certainly valid, and in the end you are right, it should've been called, I do believe they need to rewrite the rules on that one. Because DeAngelo Hall raising both arms in celebration while on his knees is certainly not excessively celebrating a game changing play, I mean that's not of the same caliber as Chad Johnson using the orange post on the corner of the endzone as a putter to do his Tiger Woods impersonation.

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I don't think it would count if a guy got tossed to the ground. You have to go to the ground on your own.

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[quote=Mattyk;751836]Yes, really.

Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1(d) prohibits players “from engaging in any celebrations while on the ground."[/quote]

Really? He went to his knees and raised both hands with the football. Pretty sure that isn't what they were thinking about when they wrote Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1(d). You don't really think that should have been a penalty do you?

So I suppose if you score a touchdown, kneel down and say a prayer, that is cause for a flag too right?

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Mooby that does not count. If you are up and go to the ground in celebration is the rule. you have to go to the ground on your own. I think the fact that DHall slid on both knees and held hi arms in the air saved him. If he had jumped and slid on his belly then it may have been a penalty.

Really why are we so worried about it. If we got the penalty it would have been on the kickoff and the Bears would have given us the ball back anyway!

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;751845]Mooby that does not count. If you are up and go to the ground in celebration is the rule. you have to go to the ground on your own. I think the fact that DHall slid on both knees and held hi arms in the air saved him. If he had jumped and slid on his belly then it may have been a penalty.

Really why are we so worried about it. If we got the penalty it would have been on the kickoff and [B]the Bears would have given us the ball back anyway![/B][/quote]

Well, can't argue with that now, can I.

D-Hall.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;751844]Really? He went to his knees and raised both hands with the football. Pretty sure that isn't what they were thinking about when they wrote Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1(d). You don't really think that should have been a penalty do you?

So I suppose if you score a touchdown, kneel down and say a prayer, that is cause for a flag too right?[/quote]

I'm not saying it should have been called, just saying that's what the rule is, and it certainly COULD have been called if the refs wanted to.

Aikman wasn't crazy in what he was saying, especially considering the ticky tacky call that the Cowboys drew a few weeks ago when Columbo spiked it and fell to the ground and got called.

As Aikman also said, going to one knee is not a penalty.

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[quote=Mattyk;751819]Going by the rules, it's a penalty. Doesn't matter if it's excessive or not.

Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1(d) prohibits players “from engaging in any celebrations while on the ground."[/quote]

You have to read it all the way through and according to the rule, it does matter if it's excessive or not:

"( d ) Individual players involved in prolonged or excessive celebrations. Players are prohibited from
engaging in any celebrations while on the ground. A celebration shall be deemed excessive
or prolonged if a player continues to celebrate after a warning from an official."

Hall's celebration was not prolonged or excessive. He did go to his knees for a few seconds as soon as he crossed the end zone line, however he was not warned (or at least appeared not to be) by the official and if he was, he did not continue to celebrate for a prolonged length of time. These rules are meant to be interpreted as a whole, not just part. And taking the entire rule into consideration, Hall's celebration shouldn't have been penalized and rightfully was not.

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[quote=Mattyk;751847]I'm not saying it should have been called, just saying that's what the rule is, and it certainly COULD have been called if the refs wanted to.

Aikman wasn't crazy in what he was saying, especially considering the ticky tacky call that the Cowboys drew a few weeks ago when Columbo spiked it and fell to the ground and got called.

As Aikman also said, going to one knee is not a penalty.[/quote]

Nope, not crazy. Just biased and comparative. 4-3.

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[quote=skinsguy;751849]You have to read it all the way through and according to the rule, it does matter if it's excessive or not:

"( d ) Individual players involved in prolonged or excessive celebrations. Players are prohibited from
engaging in any celebrations while on the ground. A celebration shall be deemed excessive
or prolonged if a player continues to celebrate after a warning from an official."

Hall's celebration was not prolonged or excessive. He did go to his knees for a few seconds as soon as he crossed the end zone line, however he was not warned (or at least appeared not to be) by the official and if he was, he did not continue to celebrate for a prolonged length of time. These rules are meant to be interpreted as a whole, not just part. And taking the entire rule into consideration, Hall's celebration shouldn't have been penalized and rightfully was not.[/quote]

interesting thanks for that addition.

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[quote=skinsguy;751849]You have to read it all the way through and according to the rule, it does matter if it's excessive or not:

"( d ) Individual players involved in prolonged or excessive celebrations. Players are prohibited from
engaging in any celebrations while on the ground. A celebration shall be deemed excessive
or prolonged if a player continues to celebrate after a warning from an official."

Hall's celebration was not prolonged or excessive. He did go to his knees for a few seconds as soon as he crossed the end zone line, however he was not warned (or at least appeared not to be) by the official and if he was, he did not continue to celebrate for a prolonged length of time. These rules are meant to be interpreted as a whole, not just part. And taking the entire rule into consideration, Hall's celebration shouldn't have been penalized and rightfully was not.[/quote]

Prolonged or excessive is obviously a judgment call on part of the refs. Considering the call the refs made on Columbo a few weeks ago, which has total horse-shit, Aikman wasn't completely out of line in his view.

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Biased? Aikman? no way.

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:lol:^^^

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It scares me that my child is being brought into a world populated with people who have the capacity to start threads as idiotic as this one

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lol....

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[quote=Mattyk;751855]Prolonged or excessive is obviously a judgment call on part of the refs. Considering the call the refs made on Columbo a few weeks ago, which has total horse-shit, Aikman wasn't completely out of line in his view.[/quote]

Thanks for clarifying Skinsguy and others, but my entire point was I don't think D.Hall's celebration was excessive or prolonged, so it shouldn't have been called.

But I do agree with Matty, all it comes down to is that it's a judgement call by the refs and all it takes is one ref that disagrees with the celebration to throw the flag.

I do think the rule needs to be rewritten. It was meant to curb celebrations like the ones Chad Johnson and Steve Smith pre-planned a few years ago, not to stop ones like D.Hall dropping to his knees and pointing his fingers to the sky in celebration. That penalty on Colombo was complete bs by the way. But the NFL tends to overdo things, and getting rid of celebrations is one of those things.

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[quote=SmootSmack;751861]It scares me that my child is being brought into a world populated with people who have the capacity to start threads as idiotic as this one[/quote]

Hey congrats on the baby news. Awesome stuff SmootDad. you will be good at it!!!

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[quote=Mattyk;751855]Prolonged or excessive is obviously a judgment call on part of the refs. Considering the call the refs made on Columbo a few weeks ago, which has total horse-shit, Aikman wasn't completely out of line in his view.[/quote]


Certainly the refs will make some bone-headed calls, but considering the entire rule as a whole on excessive celebration, Hall's celebration would not be considered one to be penalized. That would then mean flagging players for lambeau leaps, dunking the ball over the cross bar, or jumping up and down in the endzone should get penalized each and every time. And allowing those forms of celebration and disallowing someone sliding to his knees for a few seconds would be idiotic. It could be that Aikman was trying to make that statement tongue in cheek because of the Columbo call (which I thought was a stupid penalty as well.) But again, considering the rule, there would be no reason to call a penalty especially if Hall was never warned.

Regardless, he wasn't penalized, the TD was great, Aikman is still a very good commentator, and the Redskins are above .500.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;751859]:lol:^^^[/quote]


I was serious

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[quote=DynamiteRave;751412]Someone hijack this thread quick! Merge it with the bacon thread! That'll save it. :)[/quote]

[B]Bacon saved[/B]! As stated, Troy is not always in the booth for B&G games, and now we've effectively moved on to excessive celebration according to Mooby and Skinsguy, which wasn't excessive. That Aikman remark must have prompted the poster to start this thread. Other than that, I was ok with Aikman and Buck today. In the heat of announcing the game, talking heads always talk!

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I don't mind Aikman at all. Yes he's an ex-Cowboys player, but he's not biased at all nor shows any favoritism to any of the teams.

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[quote=InsaneBoost;751892]I don't mind Aikman at all. Yes he's an ex-Cowboys player, but he's not biased at all nor shows any favoritism to any of the teams.[/quote]

Perhaps in the past, but I think he's starting to crack. Being around Joe Buck must have acclimated him to pro-Cowboyisms.

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Yeah Joe Buck is an ass, I mute the TV when he does our games because that's how bad he pisses me off. I'll never forget the 2006 game where he had his stupid little voice, "If you're just joining us, here's the game."

Yeah Vincent gave him a nice big FU with his block!

I haven't noticed any change yet, but I'll pay closer attention next time.

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[quote=InsaneBoost;751936]Yeah Joe Buck is an ass, I mute the TV when he does our games because that's how bad he pisses me off. I'll never forget the 2006 game where he had his stupid little voice, "If you're just joining us, here's the game."

Yeah Vincent gave him a nice big FU with his block!

I haven't noticed any change yet, but I'll pay closer attention next time.[/quote]

We're pretty lucky we got to listen to Aikman the last 3 weeks without Joe Buck. Thank you MLB Postseason for being on Fox and taking Joe Buck away from NFL broadcasts. Here's to a 7 game WS so we can delay how long it will take Joe Buck to get back.

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Troy Aikman can suck the fuzzies outa my butt crack.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;751945]Troy Aikman can suck the fuzzies outa my butt crack.[/quote]

yore a class act sir.

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Why does this fail of thread have over 70 posts?

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[quote=mooby;751941]We're pretty lucky we got to listen to Aikman the last 3 weeks without Joe Buck. Thank you MLB Postseason for being on Fox and taking Joe Buck away from NFL broadcasts. Here's to a 7 game WS so we can delay how long it will take Joe Buck to get back.[/quote]

Haha you are telling me friend, I've been extremely happy about that :food-smil

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we were just waiting for you..

the partys already started!

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