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Longtimefan 11-01-2010 08:10 PM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
1 - There may not be a fix for the o-line. We can mix & match but that will come through players that have already proven they have a hard time getting the job done.

2 - Shanahan has had nothing but praise for Galloway [warranted or not] Would like to see if Austin could make a difference in the passing game as difficult as that may be. Some think if Randy Moss is released, he could be an option.

3 - Penalties definitley need to be negated at all cost. They cost us two touchdown in yesterdays game and more than 100 yds. in returns. Has been a problem all season.

4 - Good luck with the changing where McNabb's footwork is concerned. It's going to be difficult for a player that's been successful with his mechanics for as long as he has.

5 - If Torain can't return in two weeks there aren't an abundance of options. There's Williams, Davis and the hope that Portis will be able to return.

Unfortunately, there's not a great deal of fixing that can be done. The teams personell is what it is and what we're going to have to deal with for the next eight games. The one sure thing we can fix is reducing the penalties, that's a correctable issue.

30gut 11-02-2010 03:16 PM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
o run the ball more

o Kyle(McNabb) and the offense staff ,imo, have to step up and help this offense become more effective/effecient through his playcalling/gameplanning.

o More quick hitting 3 step drop throws to take the pressure off the OL and get Mc5 in rhythm.

o the playcalling needs to take some of the pressure off the OL.


Defense:

o play more man coverage then zone coverage

44ever 11-09-2010 09:08 PM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/19309/al-harris-a-free-agent]Al Harris a free agent - NFC North Blog - ESPN[/url]

AL HARRIS FREE,,, ANYONE, ANYONE?????

Didnt think this was worth a new thread so I threw it in here.

freddyg12 11-10-2010 08:54 AM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
[quote=Pocket$ $traight;754686]I don't think we are in a position to do that right now. He isn't as bad as Rabach. Rabach needs to be demoted immediately.

[B]I want to see Lichtenjagr at center and Dock back at LG.[/B] If for nothing else it would prove that our coaches aren't dillusional.

Rabach is horrific.[/quote]

I think this is a real possibility for monday night. See GTripp's game review- I asked him about Dock v. KL at LG. I thought his answer made sense of Shanny's logic; Dock is the stronger, more capable blocker one on one, but KL has versatility & athleticism to get out on screens, pulls, etc. However, they aren't running many of those plays for a variety of reasons, so we're seeing KL get dominated by some DTs.

I think the Shanahans may have to face this change the same way Haslett had to face the fact that he didn't have the personel to run 3-4 most of the time. Haslett's D has had 4 linemen for most of the plays in at least the last 3 games.

I don't know how quickly KL could be moved to C, but obviously Dock could be moved back to LG.

mredskins 11-10-2010 09:00 AM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
[quote=SouperMeister;755148]Detroit has a chance to be scary good in a couple years. They are loaded with young talent that just needs to learn HOW to win.[/quote]


I agree their future looks much brighter then ours, sadly.

SmootSmack 11-10-2010 10:43 AM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
[quote=44ever;757360][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/19309/al-harris-a-free-agent]Al Harris a free agent - NFC North Blog - ESPN[/url]

AL HARRIS FREE,,, ANYONE, ANYONE?????

Didnt think this was worth a new thread so I threw it in here.[/quote]

Schefter says he's going to the Fins

skinsfan69 11-10-2010 11:35 AM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;754495]1-Fix OL problems. Some changes are needed from the C all the way to the right of the line.
2-Time for Galloway to retire and promote Austin from the PS.
3-Cut back on penalties during returns by special teams.
4-Have McNabb work on his footwork.
5-If Torain is hurt for awhile bring in James Davis from the PS and see what he can do.[/quote]

1. The only change they can make is Dock. The rest of the guys aren't any better than the starters. But Shanahan needs to put his ego in his back pocket and get Dock back in there.

2. Galloway (and Williams should've never even been on the team. I don't know what these guys were thinking.

3. Can be corrected

4. Not buying the footwork stuff. McNabb is what he is. He's going to make some big plays and he's going to be inaccurate on some stuff. They knew what they were getting. They've got 11 years of film on the guy. Did they even bother to take a look???

5. What ever happened to this guy?? He was a beast at Clemson.

skinsfan69 11-10-2010 11:37 AM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
[quote=LavaRnChad;754883]I would love to see Banks get more time on offense. He's one of those Hester types that needs to get the rock in his hands. He would scare the hell out of defenses. Tell me what you all think about this.[/quote]

I agree one thousand percent.

SFREDSKIN 11-10-2010 11:40 AM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
[quote=skinsfan69;757454]1. The only change they can make is Dock. The rest of the guys aren't any better than the starters. But Shanahan needs to put his ego in his back pocket and get Dock back in there.[/quote]

That's basically what I meant, put back Dockery at LG or RG (if he can play there) get rid of Rabach out of the starting lineup and put KL at C. Hicks hasn't done much at RG and Brown is still not at 100% at RT.

JLee9718 11-10-2010 02:22 PM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
I really think that to date Kyle Shanahan stinks as an offensive coordinator! They should leave McNabb's stance alone...Just let him play. and get somebody to call some plays that seem logical. But they need to fix the O-line problems pronto. One change they can make is to move Dockery back in at left guard, take Rabach out and replace him withMontgomery or the current left guard (I can't spell his name!). It might not be any better but at least it's a change. Shanahan must be sitting in Vinnie's old chair and now he's caught something!

CultBrennan59 11-10-2010 03:22 PM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/21355/midseason-stock-watch-redskins]Midseason Stock Watch: Redskins - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

This is a good/fair evaluation of us IMO

GhettoDogAllStars 11-10-2010 03:37 PM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;757501][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/21355/midseason-stock-watch-redskins]Midseason Stock Watch: Redskins - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

This is a good/fair evaluation of us IMO[/quote]

"My guess is that McNabb will be playing elsewhere in 2010."

LOL. Freudian slip?

sportscurmudgeon 11-10-2010 10:25 PM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;754495]1-Fix OL problems. Some changes are needed from the C all the way to the right of the line.
2-Time for Galloway to retire and promote Austin from the PS.
3-Cut back on penalties during returns by special teams.
4-Have McNabb work on his footwork.
5-If Torain is hurt for awhile bring in James Davis from the PS and see what he can do.[/quote]


1. Where do I find the magic wand or the fairy godmother who will fix those problems in 2 weeks with the talent on this roster?

2. IF Galloway were to retire - - and I doubt he will in mid-season - - what makes anyone think that anyone on the roster other than Roydel Williams would be his replacement?

3. Agree here. This is something coaching and practice can accomplish. BTW, penalties in other areas of the game can be reduced too with positive benefits...

4. Donovan McNabb is in his 12 season in the NFL and has probably been using his "standard footwork" for the last 20+ years of his football life. The chances that he will change that effectively without altering his comfort level with some other part of his game in a two week period are very slim.

5. If Torain is hurt and Portis is not ready to come back, things are not looking up for the running game - - - unless of course that guy with the magic wand or the fairy godmother who is here to fix the OL in 2 weeks can give it another flick of his wrist.

44ever 11-12-2010 07:25 PM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/redskins-elevate-rbach-hall-an.html]Redskins Insider - Redskins elevate Rabach, Hall and Alexander to captain status[/url]
Say what! Rabach Captain? Shanny really likes this guy for some reason.

Lotus 11-13-2010 11:38 AM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
[quote=44ever;758002][url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/redskins-elevate-rbach-hall-an.html]Redskins Insider - Redskins elevate Rabach, Hall and Alexander to captain status[/url]
Say what! Rabach Captain? Shanny really likes this guy for some reason.[/quote]

Players choose captains.

44ever 11-13-2010 11:51 AM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
[quote=Lotus;758044]Players choose captains.[/quote]

Yeah, I know but I can't help but think he needed the confidence boost. They chose him with guys that have been playing lights out. Maybe they just simply like him. But, I think there is more to it. Just a guess. No biggie.

30gut 11-13-2010 07:44 PM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
o Run the ball

o McNabb needs to be more efficient and sustain drives with the passing game
..........a. McNabb/Kyle need to have clearly defined reads so McNabb throws to the right read at the right time more often

rbanerjee23 11-13-2010 09:20 PM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
I think McNabb needs to get his weight down. Just my opinion but he is looking a little chunky out there

mlmdub130 11-13-2010 09:45 PM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
[quote=rbanerjee23;758065]I think McNabb needs to get his weight down. Just my opinion but he is looking a little chunky out there[/quote]

it's the soup

Dread-Skin 11-15-2010 10:16 PM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
Fire jim haslett !!!!!!!!!

SFREDSKIN 11-21-2010 07:31 PM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
[quote=;754495][B]1-Fix OL problems. Some changes are needed from the C all the way to the right of the line.[/B]
2-Time for Galloway to retire and promote Austin from the PS.
3-Cut back on penalties during returns by special teams.
4-Have McNabb work on his footwork.
5-If Torain is hurt for awhile bring in James Davis from the PS and see what he can do.[/quote]

I guess #1 happened not by choice but attrition and look what a difference it made without Rabach and Hicks. Hopefully #2 and #5 will occur this week.

Pocket$ $traight 11-21-2010 11:01 PM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
I know that there are several people (some mods definitely) that say there is an overreaction on the coaching backlash, now, that being said....

It shouldn't have taken injuries to figure out that Rabach is a turd. Seriously. Rabach has been an effing turnstile the whole year. So he gets hurt and Montgomery, who no one will mistake for Kevin Mawae, comes in and the line is without a doubt better. So WTF Shanahan?!

I have never said that MS should be fired or anything like that but I stand by my statements that this guy needs a reality check and some of his BS makes him appear as a fraud. He needs to come off his high horse (especially since he hasn't done dick in Washington and really didn't do much in Denver since 98).

This is what I find inexcusable:

- Mandating a 3-4 the same year you blow up the offense. No need for it (especially when you have 4-3 personnel).
- This childish idiotic feud with Haynesworth. He looks even more foolish every game he tries to "show Al" then on cue Al comes in and blows up the other team's backfield. What a joke...
-Extending Casey Rabach. WTF!!! You sat out a year to watch film and one of your first moves is extending the worst starting lineman on the team?
- Even worse than extending CR is effing starting him every week. I just threw up my bacon wrapped filet thinking how disgusting this is. To top it off, the line looks like the friggin' hogs in pass pro as soon as Rabach goes out. EFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
- Joey effing Galloway... nuff said. No excuse that this guy is on the team. I don't give a crap that he caught a big ball or two today. As many good catches he has had, he has just as many broken routes that hurt more (see last Monday night).

Alright, I feel a little better.

Ruhskins 11-21-2010 11:09 PM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
[quote=Pocket$ $traight;761582]I know that there are several people (some mods definitely) that say there is an overreaction on the coaching backlash, now, that being said....

It shouldn't have taken injuries to figure out that Rabach is a turd. Seriously. Rabach has been an effing turnstile the whole year. So he gets hurt and Montgomery, who no one will mistake for Kevin Mawae, comes in and the line is without a doubt better. So WTF Shanahan?!

I have never said that MS should be fired or anything like that but I stand by my statements that this guy needs a reality check and some of his BS makes him appear as a fraud. He needs to come off his high horse (especially since he hasn't done dick in Washington and really didn't do much in Denver since 98).

This is what I find inexcusable:

- Mandating a 3-4 the same year you blow up the offense. No need for it (especially when you have 4-3 personnel).
- This childish idiotic feud with Haynesworth. He looks even more foolish every game he tries to "show Al" then on cue Al comes in and blows up the other team's backfield. What a joke...
-Extending Casey Rabach. WTF!!! You sat out a year to watch film and one of your first moves is extending the worst starting lineman on the team?
- Even worse than extending CR is effing starting him every week. I just threw up my bacon wrapped filet thinking how disgusting this is. To top it off, the line looks like the friggin' hogs in pass pro as soon as Rabach goes out. EFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
- Joey effing Galloway... nuff said. No excuse that this guy is on the team. I don't give a crap that he caught a big ball or two today. As many good catches he has had, he has just as many broken routes that hurt more (see last Monday night).

Alright, I feel a little better.[/quote]

You can add to that the head coach saying to the press that his starting QB, the face of the franchise, doesn't know the 2-minute drill. And sending the mediocre back up and pretty much give up on a possibly winnable game.

Pocket$ $traight 11-21-2010 11:13 PM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
[quote=Ruhskins;761586]You can add to that the head coach saying to the press that his starting QB, the face of the franchise, doesn't know the 2-minute drill. And sending the mediocre back up and pretty much give up on a possibly winnable game.[/quote]


Lol I must have blocked that from my mind because that was probably worse than anything I mentioned. That bush-league move before a bye week was pathetic.

SFREDSKIN 11-27-2010 05:44 PM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
With Galloway cut and Austin promoted my list is complete:

1-Fix OL problems. Some changes are needed from the C all the way to the right of the line.
2-Time for Galloway to retire and promote Austin from the PS.
3-Cut back on penalties during returns by special teams.
4-Have McNabb work on his footwork.
5-If Torain is hurt for awhile bring in James Davis from the PS and see what he can do.

mooby 11-27-2010 06:05 PM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;762773]With Galloway cut and Austin promoted my list is complete:

1-Fix OL problems. Some changes are needed from the C all the way to the right of the line.
2-Time for Galloway to retire and promote Austin from the PS.
3-Cut back on penalties during returns by special teams.
4-Have McNabb work on his footwork.
5-If Torain is hurt for awhile bring in James Davis from the PS and see what he can do.[/quote]

#1 is still in wait and see mode. Meaning if Rabach and Hicks are healthy enough to play this week and the coaching staff puts them back in the lineup, well we're right back where we started.

rbanerjee23 11-28-2010 12:20 AM

Re: Changes needed during/after bye week
 
^^ Exactly, I doubt they will give up on Rabach and Hicks so quick. I feel like it is a waste having them in there but the coaches seem really set so...


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