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SmootSmack 11-29-2010 08:11 AM

Re: Can the Redskins move back to RFK?
 
[quote=Gmanc711;763400]Because I'm that bored, here is our record at FedEx
97- 5-2-1
98- 4-4
99- 6-2
99- 1-0 (playoffs)
00 -4-4
01-4-4
02-5-3
03-3-5
04-3-5
05-6-2
06-2-6
07-5-3
08-4-4
09-3-5
10-2-4

So after today, we're 57-53-1.[/quote]

And, for some comparison, our first 13.5 years at RFK. Remember only 14 game seasons back then.

61: 1-6
62: 2-5
63: 1-6
64: 4-3
65: 3-4
66: 4-3
67: 3-3-1
68: 3-4
69: 4-2-1
70: 4-3
71: 3-3-1
72: 6-1
73: 7-0
74: 5-1

50-44-3.

Also, our last five years at RFK

96: 5-3
95: 3-5
94: 0-8
93: 3-5
92: 6-2

So...I don't know that RFK's home field advantage is as legendary as we may have remembered it to be

MTK 11-29-2010 08:41 AM

Re: Can the Redskins move back to RFK?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;763583]And, for some comparison, our first 13.5 years at RFK. Remember only 14 game seasons back then.

61: 1-6
62: 2-5
63: 1-6
64: 4-3
65: 3-4
66: 4-3
67: 3-3-1
68: 3-4
69: 4-2-1
70: 4-3
71: 3-3-1
72: 6-1
73: 7-0
74: 5-1

50-44-3.

Also, our last five years at RFK

96: 5-3
95: 3-5
94: 0-8
93: 3-5
92: 6-2

So...I don't know that RFK's home field advantage is as legendary as we may have remembered it to be[/quote]

Good post for perspective.

We had a great home field advantage there in the 80s when the team was a powerhouse. That's what it boils down to.

Longtimefan 11-29-2010 08:45 AM

Re: Can the Redskins move back to RFK?
 
We probably wouldn't even be having this discussion if the team was winning games. The frustration that comes with not winning leads to various reasons as to why.

The team has not played well since moving to Landover, whether the stadium itself has anything to do with it is open to conjecture. TBH, the teams we've fielded since moving there have not been considered very good teams. The team may eventually move back to the City, but don't expect a move anytime soon and definitely not back to RFK.

CRedskinsRule 11-29-2010 08:56 AM

Re: Can the Redskins move back to RFK?
 
I would think that bigger stadiums quickly become smaller home field advantages. Simply put, when a team is winning, the seats will mainly be filled by that teams fanbase, but if a team starts playing mediocre or poorly, a large stadium will attract the opponents teams fanbase because more seats are available. Add to that DC's proximity to a lot of other football fans cities (2hrs to pitt, NyJ,NYG, and Philly, a little more for Carolina), plus DC's own weird mix of allegiances and you get a stadium that will easily be overshadowed by other fans. (It was interesting to hear the Saints fans take over the new Cowboys stadium at points on Thanksgiving day:) ).

If the Skins field a consistent winning team FedEx will rock, until then, homefield is just another stadium.

skinsguy 11-29-2010 08:57 AM

Re: Can the Redskins move back to RFK?
 
I thought I had heard something a while back about Snyder wanting to build a new stadium close to RFK, but I'm sure that was probably nothing serious nor would it be anything that would happen soon.

It really all comes down to the fact that the teams this franchise has put on the field since moving into Fedex and even a bit prior were mediocre to bad teams. So, that's going to send bad vibes as it is. And I'm sure that the number of Redskins fans who bought tickets at RFK have dropped off since the team just doesn't win on a regular basis anymore. That in combination of higher ticket prices plus the economy puts a bind on the average fan attending an NFL game. So, there might be something to the notion that those who attend the games are higher up execs who really don't follow the 'skins as closely as a lot of us do.

DM72 11-29-2010 09:36 AM

Re: Can the Redskins move back to RFK?
 
[quote=aceinthehouse;763558]BTW...this team is so predictable

I bet anybody we beat the Giants on the road (Playoff team)
Beat Tampa at home (Playoff team)
Beat Jacksonville on the road (possible playoff team)

But somehow NOT make the Playoffs losing to dallas on the road (finished)

Or lose the Home game finale against the Giants in a "win, we are in" scenario

That's just how we roll...:cheeky-sm[/quote]

I'll bet my entire pay that we don't beat the Giants. WE NEVER BEAT THE GIANTS IN NY!

MTK 11-29-2010 09:39 AM

Re: Can the Redskins move back to RFK?
 
Never?

DM72 11-29-2010 09:49 AM

Re: Can the Redskins move back to RFK?
 
[quote=Mattyk;763623]Never?[/quote]

You know exactly what I mean.

SmootSmack 11-29-2010 09:50 AM

Re: Can the Redskins move back to RFK?
 
[quote=Mattyk;763623]Never?[/quote]

Well technically the Giants don't play in New York so...that said, our wins at the Giants have unfortunately been few and far between

DM72 11-29-2010 09:57 AM

Re: Can the Redskins move back to RFK?
 
[quote=Mattyk;763623]Never?[/quote]

[quote=SmootSmack;763627]Well technically the Giants don't play in New York so...that said, our wins at the Giants have unfortunately been few and far between[/quote]

Exactly. If memory serves me correctly, we had trouble winning there even when we were good.

BringBackJoeT 11-29-2010 11:20 AM

Re: Can the Redskins move back to RFK?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;763576]^ no but shit atleast [B]it was a tough place for opposing teams to play [/B]in.[/quote]

This much is at least true, even if the team didn't win every game it played at RFK. The fact is that RFK's reputation as an uninviting place for road teams predated the glory years of the 80s, and it's not hard to understand why. The 56,000 seats were packed in tightly, and, as players that played in it against the Redskins have said, the crowd seemed to be on top of them. And with only 56,000 seats, tickets were far more at a premium, and those were, of course, the pre-Stub Hub days, so it wasn't common that a Redskin fan would complain about the number of visiting team fans. While I agree with the general assessment of others that the team wouldn't have fared any better over the years had it remained at RFK, there can't be any doubt that there was a vibe at RFK that vanished with the team's move to the crater-like FedEx.

sportscurmudgeon 11-29-2010 02:06 PM

Re: Can the Redskins move back to RFK?
 
[quote=SBXVII;763455]On a more serious note....lol. Rumor is DS is gealous of JJ's new stadium, on top of that I thought the lease on FedEx was at the point where he could opt out if he wanted to or stay another 10 yrs? and lastly the second part to the rumor was he wanted to move back to DC and have a retractable dome. So the team could play inside in bad weather and or open it up in good weather plus he would be able to host a SB more easily.

Will it happen? Who knows. I guess it's all up to whatever deal DC decides to make and how much they are willing to spend.[/quote]


There is no "lease" on Fed Ex. Danny Boy owns it. Jack Kent Cooke built it on his own dime and it was part of the purchase price when Danny Boy bought in.

There are agreements with PG County on how long the Skins will play there. Those came from the county govt's agreement to let them build the stadium in the first place. That is not a "lease".

Danny Boy loved to be able to brag that he had the biggest stadium in the league and pretend that he sold it out every week. [B](Fact: The Skins have never once sold out a game in Fed Ex - - if by "sell out" you mean every seat in the house was bought for the face value of the ticket.)[/B] The only thing that he bitched about was that the league would not put the Super Bowl there.

Now he has the reality that Jerry Jones has a bigger stadium; it has a retractible roof; Dallas will get Super Bowls (more than one for sure) and unless he coughs up a LOT more money to make Fed Ex a LOT more appealing, he still won't get a Super Bowl even though New York got one without a roof.

All that being said, the Skins will move back to RFK - - and cut their seating capacity by 40% and reduce the number of luxury box seats by almost 65% - - the year after Patrick Ramsey wins the NFL MVP award.


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