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[quote=CRedskinsRule;764748]I will say this. I paid $5000 for a 1999 Honda Civic in 2005, it had 98000 miles. It now has 223,000 miles, and is starting to act quirky (although it could just need a basic service). $5000 may get you an older car, but if you are diligent in looking for a good buy ([B]only driven on Sunday to church by a little old lady kinda thing)[/B] you can get a lot of mileage for a little bit of cost.[/quote]


Actually that is a myth, that kind of stop and go driving is actually hard on a engine.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;764748]I will say this. I paid $5000 for a 1999 Honda Civic in 2005, it had 98000 miles. It now has 223,000 miles, and is starting to act quirky (although it could just need a basic service). $5000 may get you an older car, but if you are diligent in looking for a good buy (only driven on Sunday to church by a little old lady kinda thing) you can get a lot of mileage for a little bit of cost.[/quote]

Agreed!

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[quote=mredskins;764751]Actually that is a myth, that kind of stop and go driving is actually hard on a engine.[/quote]

Fine. My point is that if you look, you can find good used cars for reasonable prices. You want to look at brand, history, type of driving (highway is better as you say), and overall wear and tear on the car, but there are lots of good deals out there.

Another case, a co-worker of mine bought a Toyota Van, kept it immaculate and rarely drove it. Still did maintenance every 3000 miles and the thing was in mint condition. He decided to get it after 3 years, had paid way down on the loan, and could have sold it on market easily at or just below KBB. He took it back to the dealership, and they really did a job on him. Point being, if he had sold it on his own, some new family would have gotten a sweet deal on a used Toyota Sienna. Shame it didn't work out that way, and I imagine only the dealership got something positive from it.

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[quote=saden1;764730]I have a serious issue with buying anything used. I have this fear that it will fail because of misuse by the prior owners. The thought of spending 20K on a used car literally frightens and I can't get passed it. I have never owned anything used in my life, ever![/quote]

Well I have bought brand new several times as well as used. I fall out of love with cars too quickly to buy them brand new anymore. The whole point of buying a [B]certified[/B] used vehicle is to eliminate the chance that you buy something that fails because of misuse by the prior owners. While at the same time not overpaying for a product just because no one has owned it.

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[quote=skinsguy;764750]
But, if it comes to a truck, I can deal with a good used truck, as long as it gets me from point a to point b and I can at least haul trash or mulch with.[/quote]

now thats where you have to be really careful, because chances are that used truck has been worked hard. trucks are a dime a dozen it's hard to buy used cars in general but if you have patience and don't mind waiting deals are out there.

i bought my 03 ram 1500 quad cab 4x4 with a towing package used in 05 with about 30k on it. i used carfax and took my time and found that truck for 15k. i'm a gerneral contractor and use my truck for work and personal use, i just sold it two weeks ago for 6200 straight cash. now i am saving some $ and am going to buy another 2 to 3 year old truck in the spring, most likely a 2007 or 8 gmc serria.

everyone has their preference some like new some like used some like beaters some actually take some form of pride in how their car looks and runs, to each his own. the main thing it comes down to when trying to find a new car or truck is do some research on what you want first, and have it checked out by a trusted mechanic before you buy it, if it's used. the people that blow my mind are the people that just drive to carmax and pick out a random ass car not really caring what it is. for me a car purchase is an investment granted it's a shitty one and you will lose money in the end the trick is not losing all of it

and off topic but kinda crazy when i was selling my truck one guy in richmond was really serious and wanted it bad but couldn't come up with enough cash. the reason he couldn't come up with enough cash is because even though his credit card limit was 7500 the most he could get in a cash advance was 5600. when he told me this i almost said to him do you know what the f you are doing. you wanna talk about a pretty crappy idea i would say taking out a cash advance on a credit card to buy a used truck is on the top of the list.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;764757]Fine. My point is that if you look, you can find good used cars for reasonable prices. You want to look at brand, history, type of driving (highway is better as you say), and overall wear and tear on the car, but there are lots of good deals out there.

Another case, a co-worker of mine bought a Toyota Van, kept it immaculate and rarely drove it. Still did maintenance every 3000 miles and the thing was in mint condition. He decided to get it after 3 years, had paid way down on the loan, and could have sold it on market easily at or just below KBB. He took it back to the dealership, and they really did a job on him. Point being, if he had sold it on his own, some new family would have gotten a sweet deal on a used Toyota Sienna. Shame it didn't work out that way, and I imagine only the dealership got something positive from it.[/quote]

you think that's bad, my wife's dumbass friend, who is also a pretty good friend of mine had an old saturn, it was abeater but in fairly decnt shape a few mechanical problems but it ran and had a valid inspection. she told me she was goin to get a new car and i told her i would help her sell her car. instead she went to carmax and bought a used accord and traded in her saturn, you wanna take a stab in the dark at what the gave her???? 50 big ones

me personally i like selling cars myself, and i have sold all of my own and sold cars for others as well, by the way anyone looking for a blue 03 4x4 trailblazer? freshly detailed and ready to go for $5k :)

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[quote=mlmdub130;764763]you think that's bad, my wife's dumbass friend, who is also a pretty good friend of mine had an old saturn, it was abeater but in fairly decnt shape a few mechanical problems but it ran and had a valid inspection. she told me she was goin to get a new car and i told her i would help her sell her car. instead she went to carmax and bought a used accord and traded in her saturn, you wanna take a stab in the dark at what the gave her???? 50 big ones

me personally i like selling cars myself, and i have sold all of my own and sold cars for others as well, by the way anyone looking for a blue 03 4x4 trailblazer? freshly detailed and ready to go for $5k :)[/quote]

Only if it comes with a "FIRE DANNY" sign:cheeky-sm

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saden, have you considered leasing? If you're the type that always wants a "newer" vehicle that's going to be covered by warranty, it's not a bad idea. Keeps you from absorbing all of the depreciation.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;764767]Only if it comes with a "FIRE DANNY" sign:cheeky-sm[/quote]

It was sell our team danny boy and fire vinny!!!!!

Seriously though, Chris do you know what happened to the signs? Those things are pretty much collector items....

Yeah i like selling and buying my cars to persons and from owners. I bought one car from a dealership and it was a lemon (my old explorer). My latest car a 2006 accord i bought from the original owner and got the whole story about all 18k miles on it and why they were selling. Plus now a days you can get extended warrinites from the private companies and i even get offers from Honda every year or so. I know banks can be a little difficult to deal with, but credit unions basically specialize to writing car loans and offer great rates so that you can negotiate a price with a private seller, get the credit union to cut a check and pick up your car the same day if you have all your stuff in order.

My car came with a warranty and i got it transferred into my name, and the only time i get work done at the dealership is when its been a warranty issue. All maintance (and hooking it up - i took the spoiler off, anyone want to buy a spoiler?) i do myself, but if i ever run into a problem i cant fix myself or if the warranty is expired the very last place i would bring it is a dealership. They just overcharge you big time and in many cases its a young kid learning the trade before he can get a job with a private shop.

Also the only forums i belong to are thewarpath, driveaccord and a couple other unused car forms for cars that i used to own. Signing up for a car forum for any car you have is a must. Oh yeah and this really hot porn forum, but who doesnt belong to one of those....

Just my 2 cents............ i got no idea what could be wrong w your car

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[quote=mlmpetert;764778]It was sell our team danny boy and fire vinny!!!!!

Seriously though, Chris do you know what happened to the signs? Those things are pretty much collector items....

Yeah i like selling and buying my cars to persons and from owners. I bought one car from a dealership and it was a lemon (my old explorer). My latest car a 2006 accord i bought from the original owner and got the whole story about all 18k miles on it and why they were selling. Plus now a days you can get extended warrinites from the private companies and i even get offers from Honda every year or so. I know banks can be a little difficult to deal with, but credit unions basically specialize to writing car loans and offer great rates so that you can negotiate a price with a private seller, get the credit union to cut a check and pick up your car the same day if you have all your stuff in order.

My car came with a warranty and i got it transferred into my name, and the only time i get work done at the dealership is when its been a warranty issue. All maintance (and hooking it up - i took the spoiler off, anyone want to buy a spoiler?) i do myself, but if i ever run into a problem i cant fix myself or if the warranty is expired the very last place i would bring it is a dealership. They just overcharge you big time and in many cases its a young kid learning the trade before he can get a job with a private shop.

Also the only forums i belong to are thewarpath, driveaccord and a [B]couple other unused car forms for cars that i used to own[/B]. Signing up for a car forum for any car you have is a must. Oh yeah and this really hot porn forum, but who doesnt belong to one of those....

Just my 2 cents............ i got no idea what could be wrong w your car[/quote]

a couple? more like a few dozen. please tell me you are on a fiero board

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[quote=saden1;764730]I have a serious issue with buying anything used. I have this fear that it will fail because of misuse by the prior owners. The thought of spending 20K on a used car literally frightens and I can't get passed it. I have never owned anything used in my life, ever![/quote]

Well.............if you ever find a mechanic you can trust, he can help. I have a mechanic that I have complete trust(mostly) in. As a favor (and $50) he will go with me to look at a car. Very thorough. He spends a while going over it, driving it, compression if necessary, etc.
I have used him a couple of times, and he has saved me from making some mistakes. And we found a REAL bargain or two.....anyway, food for thought

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[quote=mlmdub130;764781]a couple? more like a few dozen. please tell me you are on a fiero board[/quote]

cars ive owned:
Thunderbird Supper Coupe (i really loved that thing, even with no mufflers, and stolen emission stickers and bribed safety inspection stickers)
Pontiac Feiro GT (ever hot box a fiero w/ 3 people before and only 3 working breaks? nbd)
Cutlass Supreme - that thing would have been sweet if i i ever got it going
Mercury Topaz - as big of a piece of shit as you could imagine
Ford Explorer - lemon
YJ Wrangler
El Camino Conquiesta
Dodge Dakota
Ford Ranger
Chevy S10
Honda Accord

I feel like im missing at least 1 but that may honestly be it, of course ive also had my Puch Moped, Tomas Targa LX, 2 Aprillia SR50's and my Husky 250 dritbike.

I have no idea how my mom let me get away with what she knew about and how i never got cought with some of the other stuff. Ive owned more then 1 car per year since 16. Plus my mopeds and dirtbike dating back to 14 or 15. Ive definitly made a fair amount selling cars, even though the majority have been complete pieces of shit.

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Check your motor mounts for the shaking.

Check your fuel pump and filters for the choking.

Change the brakes.

i dont think you need a power steering flush if it handles good.

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[quote=mlmpetert;764778]It was sell our team danny boy and fire vinny!!!!!

Seriously though, Chris do you know what happened to the signs? Those things are pretty much collector items....

Yeah i like selling and buying my cars to persons and from owners. I bought one car from a dealership and it was a lemon (my old explorer). My latest car a 2006 accord i bought from the original owner and got the whole story about all 18k miles on it and why they were selling. Plus now a days you can get [B]extended warrinites[/B] from the private companies and i even get offers from Honda every year or so. I know banks can be a little difficult to deal with, but credit unions basically specialize to writing car loans and offer great rates so that you can negotiate a price with a private seller, get the credit union to cut a check and pick up your car the same day if you have all your stuff in order.

My car came with a warranty and i got it transferred into my name, and the only time i get work done at the dealership is when its been a warranty issue. All maintance (and hooking it up - i took the spoiler off, anyone want to buy a spoiler?) i do myself, but if i ever run into a problem i cant fix myself or if the warranty is expired the very last place i would bring it is a dealership. They just overcharge you big time and in many cases its a young kid learning the trade before he can get a job with a private shop.

Also the only forums i belong to are thewarpath, driveaccord and a couple other unused car forms for cars that i used to own. Signing up for a car forum for any car you have is a must. Oh yeah and this really hot porn forum, but who doesnt belong to one of those....

Just my 2 cents............ i got no idea what could be wrong w your car[/quote]

I don't buy a used car without one. The car that I just bought is covered for 2 more years after I pay it off.

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I've been a truck man all my life. I've never had a car or SUV for myself. I guess i get it from my dad..

Anyway, my last couple used trucks have all been high mileage and they ran like a champ and were just super trucks.

My dad also works as a professional mechanic in Martinsburg, WV, so he has always been on hand to help me keep stuff up and running, and the dealership has given me good prices on whole-sale and other high-mileage trade in trucks.

My last few trucks:

1994 Ford Ranger XLT 4X4: 189,000 mile
1994 Dodge Dakota 4X4: 212,000 miles.
1997 Ford F150 4X4: 225,000 miles.

My current truck, which was just paid off yesterday, is a 2006 Ford Ranger SCrew 4X4, with a 5 spd. It has 102,000 miles and has been running full synth. since it was new. no probs what so ever. should easily get 300K+ out of it...

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[quote=SolidSnake84;764840]I've been a truck man all my life. I've never had a car or SUV for myself. I guess i get it from my dad..

Anyway, my last couple used trucks have all been high mileage and they ran like a champ and were just super trucks.

My dad also works as a professional mechanic in Martinsburg, WV, so he has always been on hand to help me keep stuff up and running, and the dealership has given me good prices on whole-sale and other high-mileage trade in trucks.

My last few trucks:

1994 Ford Ranger XLT 4X4: 189,000 mile
1994 Dodge Dakota 4X4: 212,000 miles.
1997 Ford F150 4X4: 225,000 miles.

My current truck, which was just paid off yesterday, is a 2006 Ford Ranger SCrew 4X4, with a 5 spd. It has 102,000 miles and has been running full synth. since it was new. no probs what so ever. should easily get 300K+ out of it...[/quote]


I will have to say the Rangers last awhile, my one buddy seriously did nothing to his, like maybe 2 oil changes a year and I think he got 200k miles out of it, crazy!

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[quote=mredskins;764863]I will have to say the Rangers last awhile, my one buddy seriously did nothing to his, like maybe 2 oil changes a year and I think he got 200k miles out of it, crazy![/quote]

Yeah. the 4.0 V6 engines are basically bulletproof, same with the 4.6 V8 that is in F150's.

My dad's boss told me one time that the 4.6, which commonly sees duty in police cruisers and taxi cabs, usually go around 400,000 miles before the companies take them down for a routine overhaul. They've done a few overhauls for the police, so i know its true.

It just goes to show you that advertising and the dealerships make you think that a car is wore out at 150,000 miles. It's all to make you buy new cars. It's mechanics that tell the other story, of how cars run well into their 200 and 300 thousand mile range, as long as reguarly maintained.

Go to ebay sometime, and type in work truck, and then search by highest mileage first. Many trucks on their that were fleet vehicles that have 300 thousand miles or more, and still running fine.....

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;764773]saden, have you considered leasing? If you're the type that always wants a "newer" vehicle that's going to be covered by warranty, it's not a bad idea. Keeps you from absorbing all of the depreciation.[/quote]

I don't really care to own a new car every few years...I mean, I would if leasing wasn't such a complete rip-off. Leasing a Murano for 3 years is 16K if you're lucky and don't go over the miles.

I've had my car for 8 years now...it's good to have a car and no car payment for a few years.

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I have never purchased a new car. The SUV I just purchased was a 2004 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer with 94,000 mile garage kept. I paid $6,500 cash and if I get 3 to 4 years good use then I have done good. The SUV looks almost like new and drives like new. I can easily afford a new car but to me its such a waist of money I would rather save it for retirement or something else. Same deal with the boats I have owned. I don't knock people who buy new cars it just not my fancy.

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[quote=saden1;764730]I have a serious issue with buying anything used. I have this fear that it will fail because of misuse by the prior owners. The thought of spending 20K on a used car literally frightens and I can't get passed it. I have never owned anything used in my life, ever![/quote]

Its usually pretty easy to tell if a car has been misused by the prior owner and by checking it out or having someone inspect the car. I never buy a used car from a dealer because they can dress up a used car and you never get to meet the prior owner. I can usually tell within the first few minutes if I'd buy a car from someone. Its even easier if you go to their home and can see how their yard and surroundings look. When I purchased my wifes Yukon the guys yard was perfect, his garage was as clean as most peoples home, he pulled out a folder with all the SUV's records, and his other cars where spotless. I knew within 5 min I could buy a car from him we just had to decide if we liked the Yukon and price.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;764645]OTM if your check engine light has been on 7 yrs, how do you get past md emissions? My car also started doing the same thing, then emissions came due, and they failed it straight out since the check engine light was on...[/quote]

i had my emission checked this past august. i actually took my car into my a family friends shop the day before i went to get my emission inspection. the dad wasnt there but the son did the work, the bill was low, i drove off in a hurry realized he didnt put my benz onto the computer to take the check engine light off.

i went to emissions the next day anyhow, got rear ended by an old lady while waiting in line, as soon as i pulled into the garage bay, the guy was real cool thye were all laughing at the accident it was pretty funny she slowly i mean 2 mph slow ran into my rear then proceeded to cont to press on the gas for a few more seconds, he said i automatically fail b/c the check engine light was on, i told him how i just took it to shop and they just forgot to take the check engine light off, he said he has no discretion and that he would have to automatically fail me, but he was cool and said go get the light off and come back instead of failing me.

went back to shop, the dad was there, said yup he forgot to put you on the computer, i got charged a good 80 bucks just for them to plug my car up, etc.

got to emissions with no check engine light, passed, check engine light came on shortly after. everytime they put it on the comp and take it off (about once a year), it just pops back up in a day or 2. ive actually asked them to flush my engine multiple times but they say i dont need it. really?

credskin - what happened when you got the fail? the guy seemed like he was doing me a favor by not giving me a fail, that he was doing something that was a bit frownded upon by letting me go without failing me. he said he had to check with his manager to see if he could let me go, then just let me go. i guess the old lady rear ending me was karma my way since i told him i wasnt going to report it to ins, they were an old couple, etc

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You get a 2nd retest free, so it's just having to make a second trip. I think if you go back and fail again, you have to show a certain amount of repairs in order to pass. They give you 3 months between the fail and the retest tho.

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I'm glade Va does not have emission test.

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[quote=firstdown;764940]I'm glade Va does not have emission test.[/quote]


Why they get you on everything else plus personal property tax on your car...I gladly take MD rules on cars.

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What? VA doesn't have emission testing anymore?

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[quote=saden1;764942]What? VA doesn't have emission testing anymore?[/quote]
I do have it and it $35 a year now.

[B]Virginia Motor Vehicle Safety Inspection Program[/B] [LEFT]The Required Official Inspection Procedure, as approved by the Virginia State Police Superintendent, is as follows:[/LEFT]
[LEFT][B]REQUIRED OFFICIAL INSPECTION PROCEDURE[/B][/LEFT]
[LEFT]Each inspection consists of the following items – for further details consult the "Official Inspection Manual":[/LEFT]
[LEFT]1. - REMOVE OLD INSPECTION STICKER.[/LEFT]
[LEFT]2. - DRIVE VEHICLE INTO INSPECTION LANE.[/LEFT]
[LEFT]3. - INSPECT BRAKES FOR:[/LEFT]
[LIST][*]Worn, damaged or missing parts.[*]Worn, contaminated or defective linings or drums.[*]Leaks in system, proper fluid level.[*]Worn, contaminated or defective disc pads or discs.
(NOTE: A minimum of two wheels and drums must be removed from each vehicle at the time of inspection. Consult the official inspection manual for exceptions.)[/LIST] [LEFT]4. - INSPECT PARKING BRAKE FOR:[/LEFT]
[LIST][*]Broken or missing parts.[*]Proper adjustment.[*]Standard factory equipment or equivalent.[/LIST] [LEFT]5. - INSPECT HEADLIGHTS FOR:[/LEFT]
[LIST][*]Approved type, aim, and output.[*]Condition of lamp, wiring and switch.[*]Beam indicator.[/LIST] [LEFT][B][URL="http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Safety.shtm#TopOfSafety"][IMG]http://www.vsp.state.va.us/images/arrow-up.gif[/IMG][/URL][/B]6. - INSPECT OTHER LIGHTS FOR:[/LEFT]
[LIST][*]Approved type, proper bulbs, condition of lenses, wiring and switch.[*]Aim of fog and driving lamps.[*]Illumination of all lamps, lens color, and condition of lens.
(NOTE: Every vehicle must have a rear lamp showing a red light to the rear, a white light illuminating the rear license plate; vehicles over 7 feet wide or extending 4 inches or more beyond the front fender extremes must be equipped with approved clearance lamps and reflex reflectors. Count load in measuring.)[/LIST] [LEFT]7. – INSPECT SIGNAL DEVICE FOR:[/LEFT]
[LIST][*]Approved type, proper bulbs, condition of lenses, wiring and switch.[*]Correct indications and tell-tale (visual or audible).[*]Illumination of all lamps, lens color, and condition of lens.[/LIST] [LEFT]8. – INSPECT STEERING & SUSPENSION FOR: (Jack up front end as shown in Manual)[/LEFT]
[LIST][*]Wear in bushings, kingpins, ball joints, wheel bearings, tie rod ends.[*]Looseness of gear box on frame, condition of drag link and steering arm.[*]Play in steering wheel.[*]Wheel alignment and axle alignment.[*]Broken spring leaves, and worn shackles.[*]Shock absorbers.[*]Broken frame.[*]Broken or missing engine mounts.[*]Lift blocks.[/LIST] [LEFT]9. – INSPECT TIRES, WHEELS & RIMS FOR:[/LEFT]
[LIST][*]Condition of tires including tread depth.[*]Mixing radials and bias ply tires.[*]Wheels that are cracked or damaged so as to affect safe operation.[/LIST] [LEFT]10. – INSPECT MIRROR FOR:[/LEFT]
[LIST][*]Rigidity of mounting.[*]Condition of reflecting surface.[*]View of road to rear (Truck mirrors must extend at least halfway beyond edge of body) – (Visibility 200 feet to rear).[/LIST] [LEFT][B][URL="http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Safety.shtm#TopOfSafety"][IMG]http://www.vsp.state.va.us/images/arrow-up.gif[/IMG][/URL][/B]11. – INSPECT HORN FOR:[/LEFT]
[LIST][*]Electrical connections, mounting and horn button.[*]Emits sound audible for a minimum of 200 feet.[/LIST] [LEFT]12. – INSPECT WINDSHIELD AND OTHER GLASS FOR:[/LEFT]
[LIST][*]Approved type safety glass.[*]Cloudiness, distortion or other obstruction to vision.[*]Cracked, scratched or broken glass.[*]Stickers. ALL UNAUTHORIZED STICKERS MUST BE REMOVED.[*]Sunshading material attached to the windshield to ensure it does not extend more than 3 inches downward from the top of windshield, unless authorized by Medical Waiver Certificate.[*]Operation of left front door glass.[/LIST] [LEFT]13. – INSPECT WINDSHIELD WIPER/DEFROSTER FOR:[/LEFT]
[LIST][*]Operating condition.[*]Condition of blade.[/LIST] [LEFT]14. – INSPECT EXHAUST SYSTEM FOR:[/LEFT]
[LIST][*]Exhaust line-manifold, gaskets, pipes, mufflers, connections, etc.[*]Leakage of gases at any point from motor to point discharged from system.[/LIST] [LEFT]15. – INSPECT LICENSE TAGS FOR:[/LEFT]
[LIST][*]Illumination of rear plate.[/LIST] [LEFT]16. – INSPECT HOOD AND AREA UNDER THE HOOD FOR:[/LEFT]
[LIST][*]Operating condition of hood latch.[*]Presence of emissions system -Evidence that any essential parts have been removed, rendered inoperative or disconnected.[*]Fluid levels that are below the proper level
1. Brake fluid.
2. Power steering fluid.[*]Power steering belt - proper tension, wear, or absence.[/LIST] [LEFT][B][URL="http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Safety.shtm#TopOfSafety"][IMG]http://www.vsp.state.va.us/images/arrow-up.gif[/IMG][/URL][/B]17. – INSPECT AIR POLLUTION CONTROL SYSTEM (1973 and Subsequent Models) FOR:[/LEFT]
[LIST][*]Installation.[*]Operation.
(NOTE: This includes the catalytic converter and the fuel tank filler pipe.)[/LIST] [LEFT]18. – INSPECT DRIVER’S SEAT FOR:[/LEFT]
[LIST][*]Anchorage.[*]Location.[*]Condition.[/LIST] [LEFT]19. – INSPECT SEAT BELTS FOR:[/LEFT]
[LIST][*]Approved type.[*]Installation.[/LIST] 20. – INSPECT AIR BAG AND AIRBAG READINESS LIGHT FOR:
[LIST][*]Any defects in the air bag system noted by the air bag readiness light, or otherwise indicated; or[*]The air bag has been deployed and has not been replaced (and is not deactivated because of a medical or other exemption and a notice is posted to indicate that it has been deactivated); or[*]Any part of the air bag system has been removed from the vehicle; or[*]If the air bag indicator fails to light, or stays on continuously. [/LIST] 21. – INSPECT DOORS AT THE RIGHT & LEFT SIDE OF THE DRIVER’S SEAT FOR:
[LIST][*]Handle or opening device which will permit the opening of the door from the outside and inside of the vehicle.[*]Latching system which will hold door in its proper closed position.[/LIST] [LEFT]22. – INSPECT FUEL SYSTEM FOR:[/LEFT]
[LIST][*]Any part that is not securely fastened.[*]Liquid fuel leakage.[*]Fuel tank filler cap for presence.[/LIST] [LEFT]23. – INSPECT FLOOR PAN FOR:[/LEFT]
[LEFT] (a) Holes which allow exhaust gases to enter occupant compartment.
(b) Conditions which create a hazard to the occupants. [/LEFT]
[LEFT][B][URL="http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Safety.shtm#TopOfSafety"][IMG]http://www.vsp.state.va.us/images/arrow-up.gif[/IMG][/URL][/B]24. – ISSUE STICKER:[/LEFT]
[LEFT] (a) If approved, place approval sticker on the vehicle, and give pink copy of certificate to operator.
(b) ALL DEFECTS MUST BE CORRECTED AND THE VEHICLE REINSPECTED WITHIN 15 DAYS.[/LEFT]
[LEFT] THE DRIVER MAY BE IN JEOPARDY OF RECEIVING A SUMMONS FOR ANY DEFECT STILL[/LEFT]
[LEFT] PRESENT ANY TIME THE VEHICLE IS OPERATED ON THE HIGHWAY. [/LEFT][INDENT][INDENT] [LEFT](NOTE: The validity period of the rejection sticker shall include fifteen (15) days in addition to the day of the inspection.)[/LEFT]
[/INDENT][/INDENT][LEFT][B]NOTE: [/B] If you have a specific question with regard to Motor Vehicle Safety Inspection or Inspection Requirements, you can review the safety inspection manual, in part, at [URL="http://leg1.state.va.us/000/reg/TOC19030.HTM#C0070"]MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY INSPECTION RULES AND REGULATIONS[/URL] ([url=http://leg1.state.va.us/]Legislative Information System > 2011 Session[/url]).[/LEFT]
Virginia State Police employees [I]cannot [/I]give legal advice, nor interpret the law for members of the public. Information within this Web site is provided for general guidance purposes only and may not apply to all factual situations. Persons needing legal advice may contact [URL="http://www.vsb.org/site/public/lawyer-referral-service/"]Virginia Lawyer Referral Service[/URL] at 1-800-552-7977 to be referred to a private attorney for a 30-minute consultation for a fee of $35.00.

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BTW, the dealer told me that the Valve Cover Breather Hose (VCBH) disconnected that's why the service engine light was on and the car was choking.

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[quote=mredskins;764943]I do have it and it $35 a year now.



[B]Virginia Motor Vehicle Safety Inspection Program[/B] [LEFT]The Required Official Inspection Procedure, as approved by the Virginia State Police Superintendent, is as follows:[/LEFT]



[LEFT][B]REQUIRED OFFICIAL INSPECTION PROCEDURE[/B][/LEFT]


[LEFT]Each inspection consists of the following items – for further details consult the "Official Inspection Manual":[/LEFT]


[LEFT]1. - REMOVE OLD INSPECTION STICKER.[/LEFT]


[LEFT]2. - DRIVE VEHICLE INTO INSPECTION LANE.[/LEFT]


[LEFT]3. - INSPECT BRAKES FOR:[/LEFT]

[LIST][*]Worn, damaged or missing parts.[*]Worn, contaminated or defective linings or drums.[*]Leaks in system, proper fluid level.[*]Worn, contaminated or defective disc pads or discs.
(NOTE: A minimum of two wheels and drums must be removed from each vehicle at the time of inspection. Consult the official inspection manual for exceptions.)[/LIST][LEFT]4. - INSPECT PARKING BRAKE FOR:[/LEFT]


[LIST][*]Broken or missing parts.[*]Proper adjustment.[*]Standard factory equipment or equivalent.[/LIST][LEFT]5. - INSPECT HEADLIGHTS FOR:[/LEFT]


[LIST][*]Approved type, aim, and output.[*]Condition of lamp, wiring and switch.[*]Beam indicator.[/LIST][LEFT][B][URL="http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Safety.shtm#TopOfSafety"][IMG]http://www.vsp.state.va.us/images/arrow-up.gif[/IMG][/URL][/B]6. - INSPECT OTHER LIGHTS FOR:[/LEFT]


[LIST][*]Approved type, proper bulbs, condition of lenses, wiring and switch.[*]Aim of fog and driving lamps.[*]Illumination of all lamps, lens color, and condition of lens.
(NOTE: Every vehicle must have a rear lamp showing a red light to the rear, a white light illuminating the rear license plate; vehicles over 7 feet wide or extending 4 inches or more beyond the front fender extremes must be equipped with approved clearance lamps and reflex reflectors. Count load in measuring.)[/LIST][LEFT]7. – INSPECT SIGNAL DEVICE FOR:[/LEFT]


[LIST][*]Approved type, proper bulbs, condition of lenses, wiring and switch.[*]Correct indications and tell-tale (visual or audible).[*]Illumination of all lamps, lens color, and condition of lens.[/LIST][LEFT]8. – INSPECT STEERING & SUSPENSION FOR: (Jack up front end as shown in Manual)[/LEFT]


[LIST][*]Wear in bushings, kingpins, ball joints, wheel bearings, tie rod ends.[*]Looseness of gear box on frame, condition of drag link and steering arm.[*]Play in steering wheel.[*]Wheel alignment and axle alignment.[*]Broken spring leaves, and worn shackles.[*]Shock absorbers.[*]Broken frame.[*]Broken or missing engine mounts.[*]Lift blocks.[/LIST][LEFT]9. – INSPECT TIRES, WHEELS & RIMS FOR:[/LEFT]


[LIST][*]Condition of tires including tread depth.[*]Mixing radials and bias ply tires.[*]Wheels that are cracked or damaged so as to affect safe operation.[/LIST][LEFT]10. – INSPECT MIRROR FOR:[/LEFT]


[LIST][*]Rigidity of mounting.[*]Condition of reflecting surface.[*]View of road to rear (Truck mirrors must extend at least halfway beyond edge of body) – (Visibility 200 feet to rear).[/LIST][LEFT][B][URL="http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Safety.shtm#TopOfSafety"][IMG]http://www.vsp.state.va.us/images/arrow-up.gif[/IMG][/URL][/B]11. – INSPECT HORN FOR:[/LEFT]


[LIST][*]Electrical connections, mounting and horn button.[*]Emits sound audible for a minimum of 200 feet.[/LIST][LEFT]12. – INSPECT WINDSHIELD AND OTHER GLASS FOR:[/LEFT]


[LIST][*]Approved type safety glass.[*]Cloudiness, distortion or other obstruction to vision.[*]Cracked, scratched or broken glass.[*]Stickers. ALL UNAUTHORIZED STICKERS MUST BE REMOVED.[*]Sunshading material attached to the windshield to ensure it does not extend more than 3 inches downward from the top of windshield, unless authorized by Medical Waiver Certificate.[*]Operation of left front door glass.[/LIST][LEFT]13. – INSPECT WINDSHIELD WIPER/DEFROSTER FOR:[/LEFT]


[LIST][*]Operating condition.[*]Condition of blade.[/LIST][LEFT]14. – INSPECT EXHAUST SYSTEM FOR:[/LEFT]


[LIST][*]Exhaust line-manifold, gaskets, pipes, mufflers, connections, etc.[*]Leakage of gases at any point from motor to point discharged from system.[/LIST][LEFT]15. – INSPECT LICENSE TAGS FOR:[/LEFT]


[LIST][*]Illumination of rear plate.[/LIST][LEFT]16. – INSPECT HOOD AND AREA UNDER THE HOOD FOR:[/LEFT]


[LIST][*]Operating condition of hood latch.[*]Presence of emissions system -Evidence that any essential parts have been removed, rendered inoperative or disconnected.[*]Fluid levels that are below the proper level
1. Brake fluid.
2. Power steering fluid.[*]Power steering belt - proper tension, wear, or absence.[/LIST][LEFT][B][URL="http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Safety.shtm#TopOfSafety"][IMG]http://www.vsp.state.va.us/images/arrow-up.gif[/IMG][/URL][/B]17. – INSPECT AIR POLLUTION CONTROL SYSTEM (1973 and Subsequent Models) FOR:[/LEFT]


[LIST][*]Installation.[*]Operation.
(NOTE: This includes the catalytic converter and the fuel tank filler pipe.)[/LIST][LEFT]18. – INSPECT DRIVER’S SEAT FOR:[/LEFT]


[LIST][*]Anchorage.[*]Location.[*]Condition.[/LIST][LEFT]19. – INSPECT SEAT BELTS FOR:[/LEFT]


[LIST][*]Approved type.[*]Installation.[/LIST]20. – INSPECT AIR BAG AND AIRBAG READINESS LIGHT FOR:
[LIST][*]Any defects in the air bag system noted by the air bag readiness light, or otherwise indicated; or[*]The air bag has been deployed and has not been replaced (and is not deactivated because of a medical or other exemption and a notice is posted to indicate that it has been deactivated); or[*]Any part of the air bag system has been removed from the vehicle; or[*]If the air bag indicator fails to light, or stays on continuously.[/LIST]21. – INSPECT DOORS AT THE RIGHT & LEFT SIDE OF THE DRIVER’S SEAT FOR:
[LIST][*]Handle or opening device which will permit the opening of the door from the outside and inside of the vehicle.[*]Latching system which will hold door in its proper closed position.[/LIST][LEFT]22. – INSPECT FUEL SYSTEM FOR:[/LEFT]


[LIST][*]Any part that is not securely fastened.[*]Liquid fuel leakage.[*]Fuel tank filler cap for presence.[/LIST][LEFT]23. – INSPECT FLOOR PAN FOR:[/LEFT]



[LEFT](a) Holes which allow exhaust gases to enter occupant compartment.[/LEFT]

[LEFT](b) Conditions which create a hazard to the occupants. [/LEFT]

[LEFT][B][URL="http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Safety.shtm#TopOfSafety"][IMG]http://www.vsp.state.va.us/images/arrow-up.gif[/IMG][/URL][/B]24. – ISSUE STICKER:[/LEFT]


[LEFT](a) If approved, place approval sticker on the vehicle, and give pink copy of certificate to operator.[/LEFT]

[LEFT](b) ALL DEFECTS MUST BE CORRECTED AND THE VEHICLE REINSPECTED WITHIN 15 DAYS.[/LEFT]

[LEFT]THE DRIVER MAY BE IN JEOPARDY OF RECEIVING A SUMMONS FOR ANY DEFECT STILL[/LEFT]


[LEFT]PRESENT ANY TIME THE VEHICLE IS OPERATED ON THE HIGHWAY. [/LEFT][INDENT][INDENT][LEFT](NOTE: The validity period of the rejection sticker shall include fifteen (15) days in addition to the day of the inspection.)[/LEFT]


[LEFT][/LEFT]
[/INDENT][/INDENT][B]NOTE: [/B]If you have a specific question with regard to Motor Vehicle Safety Inspection or Inspection Requirements, you can review the safety inspection manual, in part, at [URL="http://leg1.state.va.us/000/reg/TOC19030.HTM#C0070"]MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY INSPECTION RULES AND REGULATIONS[/URL] ([URL="http://leg1.state.va.us/"]Legislative Information System > 2011 Session[/URL]).

Virginia State Police employees [I]cannot [/I]give legal advice, nor interpret the law for members of the public. Information within this Web site is provided for general guidance purposes only and may not apply to all factual situations. Persons needing legal advice may contact [URL="http://www.vsb.org/site/public/lawyer-referral-service/"]Virginia Lawyer Referral Service[/URL] at 1-800-552-7977 to be referred to a private attorney for a 30-minute consultation for a fee of $35.00.[/quote]


I don't see anything there that talks about a emission inspection. The only thing there that says $35 is to consult a lawyer for 30min.

If your talking about this:

17. – INSPECT AIR POLLUTION CONTROL SYSTEM (1973 and Subsequent Models) FOR:[LIST][*]Installation.[*]Operation.
(NOTE: This includes the catalytic converter and the fuel tank filler pipe.)[/LIST]This is not an emission test or check.

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[quote=saden1;764942]What? VA doesn't have emission testing anymore?[/quote]

We have never had emission test.

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[quote=firstdown;764950]We have never had emission test.[/quote]


What are you talking about? These two items make up an emissions test for the most part:

INSPECT EXHAUST SYSTEM FOR: [LIST][*]Exhaust line-manifold, gaskets, pipes, mufflers, connections, etc.[*]Leakage of gases at any point from motor to point discharged from system.[/LIST] INSPECT AIR POLLUTION CONTROL SYSTEM (1973 and Subsequent Models) FOR: [LIST][*]Installation.[*]Operation.
(NOTE: This includes the catalytic converter and the fuel tank filler pipe.)[/LIST]That pretty much covers what MD does, give or take.

[url=http://www.mva.maryland.gov/MVA-Programs/VEIP/veipinfo.htm]VEIP General Information[/url]

Re: Car Trouble, Need Advice
 

[quote=saden1;764946]BTW, the dealer told me that the Valve Cover Breather Hose (VCBH) disconnected that's why the service engine light was on and the car was choking.[/quote]


Otherwise called a PVC valve? no.

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OK I'm wrong after checking Va does have an emission test. From what I read they mainly just go by the inspection to make sure you have a catalytic converter and the fuel tank filler pipe. Larger veh. like work trucks get hit with the actual emission test but not your everyday car.

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[quote=firstdown;764954]OK I'm wrong after checking Va does have an emission test. From what I read they mainly just go by the inspection to make sure you have a catalytic converter and the fuel tank filler pipe. Larger veh. like work trucks get hit with the actual emission test but not your everyday car.[/quote]


I am framing this post.

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I think it is a county thing. I live in Frederick County and we dont have it here. have never had it.

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[quote=mredskins;764955]I am framing this post.[/quote]

well when FD gets catalytic and emission spelled right, you know someone is answering on his behalf anyway!

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[quote=mredskins;764952]Otherwise called a PVC valve? no.[/quote]

If I knew anything about cars I would be able to say yes or no. I have no idea what these things do or mean.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;764957]well when FD gets catalytic and emission spelled right, you know someone is answering on his behalf anyway![/quote]


Ha! So true, thanks for spoiling it. =)

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[quote=SolidSnake84;764956]I think it is a county thing. I live in Frederick County and we dont have it here. have never had it.[/quote]


No its all Va but its not very much of an inspection. Here was a prior post of mine.

OK I'm wrong after checking Va does have an emission test. From what I read they mainly just go by the inspection to make sure you have a catalytic converter and the fuel tank filler pipe. Larger veh. like work trucks get hit with the actual emission test but not your everyday car.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;764957]well when FD gets catalytic and emission spelled right, you know someone is answering on his behalf anyway![/quote]

I'm a F*%$ing spelling machine.

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[quote=saden1;764959][B]If I knew anything about cars [/B]I would be able to say yes or no. I have no idea what these things do or mean.[/quote]

That's probably why your scared to buy a used car. Its like me buying electronics and why I ask dumb questions here.