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[quote=Hail to the Redskins;765926]I just have to say...

Santana Moss can still be one of the most productive receivers in the league RIGHT NOW...

and Anthony Armstrong / Chris Cooley / Fred Davis ... if used properly ... we are not HORRIBLE in receiving weapons...

to all of the McNabb apologists... explain THE ST LOUIS RAMS!!

They have a Rookie QB... and name ONE RECEIVER FOR THEM!

QB 1:
* 2010 Record: 6-6 (team was 1-15 last year!)
* 61% comp, 2,600+ yds, 17 TDs, 10 INTs
* 11 TDs/2 INTs over last 7 games means he is LEARNING HIS NEW OFFENSE
* Leading receiver had 326 CAREER receiving yds coming into 2010

QB 2:
* 2010 Record: 5-7 (team was 4-12 last year)
* 58% comp, 3,100+ yds, 12 TDs, 15 INTs
* 8 TDs, 12 INTs over last 7 games means he is.... ummm.... letting everyone blame is terrible receiving corps
* Has TWO... yes TWO... PRO BOWL RECEIVERS

I am not trying to bash McNabb... I am just sick of hearing everyone talk about us having terrible receivers... it is our QB and our OC... other coaches & QBs would be FINE with our weapons... regardless of the terrible O-Line (see Chicago Bears & Indy Colts)

Things that make you go hmmmm....[/quote]


Do people forget this is a new system for everyone on the field. Its also a new system for DM after being in one system for 10 or so years. Thats a tough change for a QB to make and then throw on the fact everyone is making the change makes it even tougher. I'm giving every player a pass this year but with that said I will not have any problems with players getting cut. The only reason we won the games we did was because of turn overs and we are no longer getting them so we are loosing.

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[quote=Hail to the Redskins;765926]and Anthony Armstrong / Chris Cooley / Fred Davis ... if used properly ... we are not HORRIBLE in receiving weapons...[/quote]
I agree.

[quote]to all of the McNabb apologists... explain THE ST LOUIS RAMS!![/quote]
I don't consider myself and apologist but i can posit an explanation for the Rams production on offense.

Part of their success is due to their OL.

Center: Jason Brown (who was available and we passed on)
RT: Roger Saffold (rookie) 2nd round
LT: Jason Smith 1st round

The Rams have one of the best OL's in their division and one of the better OL's in the league.

Then its their OC Pat Shurmur from the Eagles.

[quote]....other coaches & QBs would be FINE with our weapons... regardless of the terrible O-Line (see Chicago Bears & Indy Colts)[/quote]

I believe that other OC's would field a much better offensive and passing game with our talent. (Heck Zorn's offense was better w/ a less talented cast).
I'm not saying that Kyle is bad i'm saying that for the offense to play better he has to have a better game plan/play calling.

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[quote=Mattyk;766029]I don't think anyone is saying OL is the only issue, obviously it's one of many. [B] Still, getting it fixed will go a long way in getting the offense on track[/B]. Much more so than plugging in new WRs.[/quote]

I agree, but neither was I saying WR was more pressing than OL. But at least it would have made the bigger and quicker impact since its easier to get 1 great receiver than a whole great OL.

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[quote=44ever;766076]I agree, but neither was I saying WR was more pressing than OL. But at least it would have made the bigger and quicker impact since its easier to get 1 great receiver than a whole great OL.[/quote]

Given the choice I would take a stud lineman over a stud WR. Even just one lineman could make a big difference. Meanwhile TO is putting up nice numbers, but that hasn't helped them win.

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One thing we know about DM is that he can win with average WR's because he did that for years in Philly. When they finally get some good talent at WR they trade him.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;765785]Tom Brady is having a career year in a two tight end system with a very limited running game. We on the other hand are sending out guys like Galloway and Williams to catch passes.[/quote]


Brady is haveing a good year in 2010. But if you think this is his career year when compared to the 18-1 season, you need to look more closely...

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[quote=DIEHARD1980;765858]i dont think nobody will be let go. shanahan does not release wide receivers as fast as he does running backs. they will be back. Only person on this team that needs to go is Heyer.[/quote]


If you believe that the other 52 players on the rooster can stay for next season and things will get significantly better, you are living in a delusion.

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How come I hear nothing of the grining guy as he underthrows, overthrows, leads to far and throws over the head all of the time. i am tired of seeing that sh-- eating grin when he blows an obvious touchdown pass. Yes we have dropped passes but damn he misses reads and throws like a girl somtimes. Just my thoughts.

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[quote=tmandoug1;766371]How come I hear nothing of the grining guy as he underthrows, overthrows, leads to far and throws over the head all of the time. i am tired of seeing that sh-- eating grin when he blows an obvious touchdown pass. Yes we have dropped passes but damn he misses reads and throws like a girl somtimes. Just my thoughts.[/quote]

I agree! We need to cut that Sexy Rexy Grossman before he gets clocked and fumbles away another game as soon as possible! Backup quarterback of the future my ass.

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Not sure I've seen McNabb smiling after blowing a score.

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[quote=Mattyk;766425]Not sure I've seen McNabb smiling after blowing a score.[/quote]

I've seen it. It wasn't the "hahaha, I love not scoring touchdowns" kind of smile, it was more of the "present a good face while keeping the disappointment bottled up inside you" kind of smile.

But in the end do you know what that means? It means McNabb doesn't take this game seriously, and is content not throwing touchdowns and having a 12 to 15 touchdown-interception ratio. He gots to go!

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[quote=mooby;766543]I've seen it. It wasn't the "hahaha, I love not scoring touchdowns" kind of smile, it was more of the "present a good face while keeping the disappointment bottled up inside you" kind of smile.

But in the end do you know what that means? It means McNabb doesn't take this game seriously, and is content not throwing touchdowns and having a 12 to 15 touchdown-interception ratio. [B]He gots to go[/B]![/quote]

Amazing how many good QB's look bad once they slip on the B&G. I bet 90% of the guys that called for Campbell's head would love to have him back after the way he's been playing this season.

Sad thing is, if he did come back, he would revert right back to how he played while here the 1st time.

It can't be that all our QB's suck. It's something else.

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[quote=44ever;766645]Amazing how many good QB's look bad once they slip on the B&G. I bet 90% of the guys that called for Campbell's head would love to have him back after the way he's been playing this season.

Sad thing is, if he did come back, he would revert right back to how he played while here the 1st time.

[B]It can't be that all our QB's suck. It's something else[/B].[/quote]

Agreed. What's most concerning to me is the fact that McNabb has thrown a pick in 10 straight games. Even Campbell never did that bad. And some of those picks were just legit bone headed decisions, like staring down Terrell Thomas in the end zone last week. I do blame a couple of those picks on the receivers though, like the ball hitting Moss right between the shoulder pads and it popping up and one of the Vikes catching it. That's on Moss.

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Dropped TD: :D

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[quote=44ever;766645]Amazing how many good QB's look bad once they slip on the B&G. I bet 90% of the guys that called for Campbell's head would love to have him back after the way he's been playing this season.

Sad thing is, if he did come back, he would revert right back to how he played while here the 1st time.

It can't be that all our QB's suck. It's something else.[/quote]

I was curious:

JC 2010 = 9 games, 114/206 (55.3%), 1439yds, 8 TDs, 6 INTs, 78.1 rating, 138 rush yds, 1 rush TD, 9 fumbles (1 lost)

DM 2010 = [B]12 games, 253/437 (57.9%), 3149 yds (wow, already?), 12 TDs, 15 INTs (ouch), 75.2 rating, 151 rush yds, 10 fumbles (1 lost)[/B]


JC after Week 13 last season:
[SIZE=2][B]244/370 (65.9%), 2,724 yds, 15 TD, 12 INT, 87.7 rating, 159 rush yds[/B]

Seemed much more efficient...hate to say it. :cheeky-sm Never thought I'd have to.

source:
[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/32242-campbells-numbers-dont-lie-32.html#post636022[/URL]

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Moss with another critical drop in the 4th that looked like if he catches it he splits the defenders and goes td.Didnt see the game live so I dont know if we had any other drops but that one hurt.

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[quote=44ever;766645]Amazing how many good QB's look bad once they slip on the B&G. I bet 90% of the guys that called for Campbell's head would love to have him back after the way he's been playing this season.

Sad thing is, if he did come back, he would revert right back to how he played while here the 1st time.

It can't be that all our QB's suck. It's something else.[/quote]

never mind

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[quote=htownskinfan;771179]Moss with another critical drop in the 4th that looked like if he catches it he splits the defenders and goes td.Didnt see the game live so I dont know if we had any other drops but that one hurt.[/quote]

He was having a good game and had to drop that pass. It was the difference in the game.

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The drop was huge but perhaps if the D could have made some stops in the first half we wouldn't have been down by 20 to start with. Or if we didn't give up big return after big return giving them prime field position.

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[quote=htownskinfan;771179]Moss with another critical drop in the 4th that looked like if he catches it he splits the defenders and goes td.Didnt see the game live so I dont know if we had any other drops but that one hurt.[/quote]

that drop really hurt, but in his defense I think it was harder than it looked, his feet had just gotten tangled up w/Jenkins a little. What made me more frustrated w/that drive was the all pass playcalling when before they were mixing it up quite well.