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lets go get him ,shut down corners hard to find plus we can blitz more with him...

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Will someone please shed some light on the current rules in place under the CBA which expires the end of March as it pertains to the 2011 FA class. It is my understanding that the existing rules under the expiring CBA governs the draft, but does the same hold true for FA's? In other words, will teams be able to actively pursue FA's without a new agreement?

Asomugha is a very good player that I'd love to see in B&G though he will command a high price. He'd be a fine addition if we only needed him to make us a contender. We have so many areas of need.

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[quote=Longtimefan;776632]Will someone please shed some light on the current rules in place under the CBA which expires the end of March as it pertains to the 2011 FA class. It is my understanding that the existing rules under the expiring CBA governs the draft, but does the same hold true for FA's? In other words, will teams be able to actively pursue FA's without a new agreement?

Asomugha is a very good player that I'd love to see in B&G though he will command a high price. He'd be a fine addition if we only needed him to make us a contender. We have so many areas of need.[/quote]
All I know for sure is what I have heard in that the LAST thing that will officially take place under the CBA is the NFL draft. After that, everything is dependent on a new CBA. I don't even think they can sign draft picks until a new agreement is in place.

And it makes no sense to sign a free agent when no one knows what it will look like.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;776676]All I know for sure is what I have heard in that the LAST thing that will officially take place under the CBA is the NFL draft. After that, everything is dependent on a new CBA. I don't even think they can sign draft picks until a new agreement is in place.

And it makes no sense to sign a free agent when no one knows what it will look like.[/quote]

Per: ESPN's Adam Scheftner, no new CBA no FA signings. Everything relevant to free agency is dependent on a new CBA getting done.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=schefter_adam&page=10spot/10wildcard]Adam Schefter: Playoffs are a last bit of normal NFL - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=Longtimefan;776692]Per: EPPN's Adam Scheftner, no new CBA no FA signings. Everything relevant to free agency is dependent on a new CBA getting done.

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=schefter_adam&page=10spot/10wildcard"]Adam Schefter: Playoffs are a last bit of normal NFL - ESPN[/URL][/quote]

Thats all I keep hearing. If there is not a CBA done prior to the draft then free agency basically will be held off till after the draft and after the new CBA gets done. The draft should continue as planned though.

I remember a few yrs ago though people talking about what would happen with out a CBA and I thought at one point even the draft would be eliminated and players could sign with whatever team they wanted to. In other words to the highest bidder. Whatever happened to that train of thought?

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NA was a great shutdown corner, but hasn't he been injured a fair bit the last two years, and haven't his numbers dropped off (a lot)? In fact, he's failure to achieve certain incentives was why he's a FA now, as I understand it. This, coupled with many other greater needs, would lead me to pass and focus on other areas. I'd rather find a stud FS, at least another LB, and guys on the line.

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[quote=calia;776735]NA was a great shutdown corner, but hasn't he been injured a fair bit the last two years, and haven't his numbers dropped off (a lot)? In fact, he's failure to achieve certain incentives was why he's a FA now, as I understand it. This, coupled with many other greater needs, would lead me to pass and focus on other areas. I'd rather find a stud FS, at least another LB, and guys on the line.[/quote]

Sounds like the Raiders version of D-Hall.

I say do it.

Notice how so many great players just stop playing well in black and silver...coincidence?

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You can only sign players that werent on a squad I believe

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[quote=Buster;776745]Sounds like the Raiders version of D-Hall.

I say do it.

Notice how so many great players just stop playing well in black and silver...coincidence?[/quote]

Actually, Asomugha played well while D-Hall flamed out in Oakland.

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[quote=bigdaddy2348;776487]I feel the price for him is going to be too high. Plus we need to continue to build with younger pieces not middle age FA's. He alone isn't to make the defense that much better. I would love to have him but the time isn't right for a player like him.[/quote]

Agreed. Tired of seeing the Skins grasp at free agents in their late 20s or older. Plus, he's not going to want to come here, which means we'd have to pay more than teams that have more to offer... like a chance to play in the post-season. Pass. Build through the draft and spend where it counts - QB, O and D Line. Fill in the rest with guys who are young and cheap (Torrain and Armstrong, for example).

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[quote=Buster;776745]Sounds like the Raiders version of D-Hall.

I say do it.

Notice how so many great players just stop playing well in black and silver...coincidence?[/quote]

And burgundy and gold, unfortunately. How many guys have come here only to underachieve? Archuletta? Haynesworth? Jason Taylor? Stubby? Brandon Lloyd? The Redskins - Where Pro-Bowlers Come to Die;)

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[quote=44Deezel;776779]And burgundy and gold, unfortunately. How many guys have come here only to underachieve? Archuletta? Haynesworth? Jason Taylor? Stubby? Brandon Lloyd? The Redskins - Where Pro-Bowlers Come to Die;)[/quote]

And then rebloom post-DC, a la Lloyd.... :tongue

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If Revis is not the best CB in the NFL, then Asomugha is.

The option clause in his contract that was voided was worth a minimum of $16.4M. Don't think he is going to sign for anything less than that.

The Redskins have been known to pay top dollar to players who really do not have a ton of other offers in hand during free agency. Phat Albert comes to mind here... However, Asomugha will have plenty of interest and offers so the Skins will need to come hard with their offer. More than likely, this is a guy who will go to the high bidder - - - unless he takes a shorter price to go with a Super Bowl contender next year.

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Wonder what Cromartie will command on the open market.

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Nnamdi would be a ridiculous pickup. It would only improve our defense hands down. Id love if we pulled the trigger on em..

If the price is right i say take em.

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Am I the only one who thinks the priority should be along the D-line? I'd like to see Nnamdi as much as anyone, but Haloti Ngata and Cullen Jenkins are both free agents this year.

Just seems like the focus should be up front more than secondary.

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[quote=Skins4L;776887]Nnamdi would be a ridiculous pickup. It would only improve our defense hands down. Id love if we pulled the trigger on em..

If the price is right i say take em.[/quote]

The price will not be right though...it will be one of the biggest contracts in league history. There's no bargain here...it's just a matter of which team is going to bite the bullet.

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[quote=Beemnseven;776911]Am I the only one who thinks the priority should be along the D-line? I'd like to see Nnamdi as much as anyone, but Haloti Ngata and Cullen Jenkins are both free agents this year.

Just seems like the focus should be up front more than secondary.[/quote]

Haloti Ngata will almost certainly be franchised...if he were somehow free then he is a much better target then Nmamdi.

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A couple of years ago you could pretty much count on the Skins chasing Asomugha once free agency opens. Now, I seriously doubt it.

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[quote=celts32;776937]Haloti Ngata will almost certainly be franchised...if he were somehow free then he is a much better target then Nmamdi.[/quote]
You bring up an excellent point.....the Franchise Tag.

The current CBA expires on March 5th. And almost unanimously, the players HATE the franchise tag. I will wager that the franchise tag and Restricted Free Agent definitions are 2 items the NFLPA will bring to the table as things the want to change (RFA) and things they want to go away (Franchise Tag).

These will be bargaining chips when talks start around the 18-game season, roster expansion, rookie wage scale etc etc etc.

I have a strong feeling that we have seen the last of the franchise tag, and franchising players like Ngata will no longer be an option.

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I think tags will be back, but will be modified from what they are now.

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Nmadi is amazing but we have a pourous OL, and pretty much need an overhauling at nearly all positions excluding maybe 8 starting spots. We dont need a huge FA we need to sure up our trenches and get good character blue collar guys who enjoy football first. IMO.

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[quote=Dread-Skin;777035]Nmadi is amazing but we have a pourous OL, and pretty much need an overhauling at nearly all positions excluding maybe 8 starting spots. We dont need a huge FA we need to sure up our trenches and get good character blue collar guys who enjoy football first. IMO.[/quote]

Compromise. At least one big time free agent offensive lineman under 28. Personally I'm confident we're going to find our diamonds in the rough on the line. Heck we might already have two of them in Capers and Cook, however history suggest that they're going to need time to develop before they're ready to play.

If I had to bet a lot of money I would put it on us getting Davin Joesph through free agency. Would love to get Ryan Kalil but the Panthers would be stupid to let him hit free agency, seeing as how he's the best Center in the league behind Mangold as well as the fact that Kalil has said he'd like to stay.

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The price is never too high for us if we don't have to spend draft picks to make something happen. I think Champ Bailey would be where the relative bargain would be found.

I wouldn't get him if it in any way prohibited us from landing a stud on either line. That's for the FO to know, and plan for. Becuase i'm ignorant of the CBA situation, and of our willingness to put money out there with no idea what the future cap will look like.

Speaking out of pure speculation, it would be nice if we could sign him to a 70 million, 5 year deal with 30 million guaranteed. And if we weighted it heavily before the lockout, then we wouldn't have to worry so much about the cap hit when the cap is put back in place. Again, i don't even know if that's feasible.

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[quote=Beemnseven;776911]Am I the only one who thinks the priority should be along the D-line? I'd like to see Nnamdi as much as anyone, but Haloti Ngata and Cullen Jenkins are both free agents this year.

Just seems like the focus should be up front more than secondary.[/quote]

You are not the only one. If we are to spend big free agent $$, I'd rather spend them on the DL than on Asomugha.

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[quote=Beemnseven;776911]Am I the only one who thinks the priority should be along the D-line? I'd like to see Nnamdi as much as anyone, but Haloti Ngata and Cullen Jenkins are both free agents this year.

Just seems like the focus should be up front more than secondary.[/quote]Keep in mind that in the 3-4, the d-lineman are dirty work role players. Very, very important ones, but ones that stay out of the spotlight.

Ngata and Cullen Jenkins are both phenomenal players who could be great in our system, but if both re sign with their current (playoff) teams, there's not exactly another tier of DLmen below them that would greatly improve our team in 2011 if we added one.

I've seen Aubrayo Franklin's name thrown around. He's a better fit for this defense than Kemoeatu, but he's a very similar player to Anthony Bryant (in age and skill), and the only way we could acquire Franklin is to overpay for him. Then if you use him more than part time in the nose tackle role to justify his contract, we're using him sub-optimally.

I would chase the best D-Linemen in free agency, but I doubt you're going to get one. Then you just have to push for patience and find some quality late-rounders in the draft.

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But in any defense, the quality of your defensive backs have never been a larger determinant of your success as a team than right now these last two years.

Landry as our team MVP in 2010 is not a coincidence. He's our best player and now needs much more talent around him in the secondary. Re-signing Rogers might be the smart money move, but we're still going to need more talent than just him anyway. If we can get Asomugha, you can't possibly find a reason to hate on that.

Then again, I can't see him here.

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First off, and as mentioned before, Nnamdi and DHall have already played together. Nnamdi I'm pretty sure, can play man and zone equally well. DHall is strictly a zone corner. I don't know if this would be able to work a second time, but then again I can be wrong.

Nnamdi is getting old so yes he wants to play for a contender, but the highest paying contender as well. Maybe he'll look at us and say that we could be a contender one day, but not any time soon. Shanahan though LOVES this guy and is very familiar with him from his denver days. I say the chances of Nnamdi coming here is 49%. Money, yes. Contender, No.

I feel that we'd be a lot better off getting Ike Taylor from Pittsburgh, than Nnamdi, in terms of money, and scheme.

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[quote=44Deezel;776775]Agreed. Tired of seeing the Skins grasp at free agents in their late 20s or older. Plus, he's not going to want to come here, which means we'd have to pay more than teams that have more to offer... like a chance to play in the post-season. Pass. Build through the draft and spend where it counts - QB, O and D Line. Fill in the rest with guys who are young and cheap (Torrain and Armstrong, for example).[/quote]

Where are all of these great 24-26 year old FA's coming from?

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I say theres a 33% chance Nnamdi's in DC. A 33% chance he's in Houston. And a 34% chance he's in Philly. Why Philly? Because their a 'contender'.

What it will come down to is this: Money, then if all teams give him similar contracts, he'll go to the contender.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;809583]I say theres a 33% chance Nnamdi's in DC. A 33% chance he's in Houston. And a 34% chance he's in Philly. Why Philly? Because their a 'contender'.

What it will come down to is this: Money, then if all teams give him similar contracts, he'll go to the contender.[/quote]

dallas not in the running? I think it was just some speculation from some of the talking heads, but I recall some saying dallas was a possibility. Newman is gettin up there & they weren't happy w/Jenkins last year.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;809583]I say theres a 33% chance Nnamdi's in DC. A 33% chance he's in Houston. And a 34% chance he's in Philly. Why Philly? Because their a 'contender'.

What it will come down to is this: Money, then if all teams give him similar contracts, he'll go to the contender.[/quote]

I say there is a 99.9% chance you are wrong on your percentages. There have already been reports he doesn't want to go to Houston and he's looking for a contending team. (which leaves us out of the running) Dallass and Philthy are the two teams I see in the running.

I don't agree with it coming down to money. He could have resigned in Oakland if it were about the money.

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I don't see him landing here at all. The bidding war for him is going to be crazy.

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The cowgirsl want him bad!!

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I would say no. As someone else mentioned we just have way too many holes to sign and guy like that. Plus why would he come to a team that's in rebuild mode? He's going to end up on a true contender.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;776616]There will be plenty of time for front offices around the league to consider Asomugha.
First off, no team is even permitted to pursue a free agent until the end of the current NFL year, March 5th I think. So no team can even approach Asomugha until that date.

Also, the current CBA extenstion EXPIRES in March. If there is not a new CBA in place, then there is a lockout.

I also suspect that free agents around the league will abstain from signing any new contracts until a new CBA is in place, since that agreement will most certainly address veteran defintiions and salary caps as well as a rookie wage scale.

And those of you dreaming of a league WITHOUT a salary cap? Dream on, that is first and foremost on the owners agendas is that salary cap. Without a salary cap, the owners will proceed with a lockout.

So plenty of time for teams to consider Asomugha.

Also, can you imagine what the "market price" will be for a DB this year now that both Asomugha and Champ Bailey are Free Agents?

Wow.[/quote]

You guys need him in the worst way. Your secondary is god awful.

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Don't think he'll end up here. Price is too high, not sure he's a good fit for our style of 3-4 defense, some depth in the corner market, and they might do something crazy and play Kevin Barnes...nah, as good as Nnamdi is, I don't see us backing up the Brinks truck for him.

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If people have Really been following the whole Nnamdi thing, you should know:

- The new imposed Salary cap will hurt a team like the cowboys and not effect the redskins. the cowboys can sign Nnamdi if they don't bother resigning doug free and release Terrance Newman, but stephen jones has said that they intend on resigning doug free as their top priority.

-Houston Is in the running, I don't see anywhere where Nnamdi says he doesn't want to play there, They with a good QB and amazing WR and great running back gives them a great championship contending offense, it's just the huge question mark of a defense they have, being that they have money and a CB need, Nnamdi is definitely an option that is very possible.

- The Raiders will not resign him because he hates al davis and his unwinning ways.

- The Jets are a possibility, but only if he signs at a lower rate than what he's asking...not going to happen. Contender wise, it could happen.

- The Eagles want him, but have back up plans (Ike Taylor) if they can't get him/he outprices himself for them.

- The redskins have been named a possibility for a while now. Shanahan loves him from the denver days. We are BIG spenders. NFL writers and analysts have had us linked to Nnamdi for more than financial reasons for the past few months. One CBS.com writer who predicted AH coming here a few years ago is predicting Nnamdi coming here..not saying;just saying.

Meaning of this post: Don't knock out any of these teams from getting Nnamdi (except oakland)

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Dallas would have some serious house cleaning to do

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[quote=skinsfan69;809597]I would say no. As someone else mentioned we just have way too many holes to sign and guy like that. Plus why would he come to a team that's in rebuild mode? He's going to end up on a true contender.[/quote]

Don't read too much into the whole contender thing. I say that because Moneys the key to everything. Take Charles Woodson for example. Woodson, like Nnamdi was a pro bowl corner leaving oakland in his 8 year. Woodson said he wanted to leave for a team that would be a contender. He went to Green Bay who was coming off a 6-10 season. You can Not tell me he signed with them because he knew they were a super bowl contender, 5 years later they were but that season, no not at all, he by the way signed an 7 year $52 million contract, which was big bucks on that market, that year.

Look at AH for this case. He said he wanted to get paid and be on a contender. The Bucs offered him a few million more than us, and he said he came here because he believed we were contenders; The bucs offered about 2 million more in guaranteed money. Either way the guy was gonna get paid, and money was his first and most important factor.