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[quote=Dirtbag359;783093]Agreed, but they did make it up to most of the people who were moved. Refund 3 times the face value of the ticket and many were relocated to the field level.[/quote]

Still 400 people weren't accommodated. Yes, they did get to go on the field after the game, but they still didn't get to enjoy the game as they had expected to. Plus they had to pay for their own food and drink during the game, didn't even get comped for that. Also, do they get refunded on their plane tickets, hotel rooms, etc?

Someone basically made a promise they couldn't keep when they agreed to sell extra seats that didn't exist, before even checking with the fire marshall

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[quote=Mattyk;783112][URL="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2011/02/nfl-will-invite-non-seated-fans-to-next-years-super-bowl-as-guests/1"]NFL will invite non-seated fans to next Super Bowl as 'guests' - The Huddle: Football News from the NFL - USATODAY.com[/URL]

Better hook them up with some good seats next year[/quote]But if you're a fan of the Packers or Steelers, and were screwed out of a seat, does a prime seat to the next Super Bowl even remotely make up for this if your team doesn't get that far? I can't imagine the anger those left out felt, what a nightmare. I saw a few of them interviewed, and some were reduced to tears.

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What a spectacular, comprehensive, totally quagmired cluster f - - k of an event... leave to the Cowboys.
Dallas Sucks.

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[quote=SouperMeister;783156]But if you're a fan of the Packers or Steelers, and were screwed out of a seat, does a prime seat to the next Super Bowl even remotely make up for this if your team doesn't get that far? I can't imagine the anger those left out felt, what a nightmare. I saw a few of them interviewed, and some were reduced to tears.[/quote]

I'd be furious too and at this point nothing is going to fully make up for this blunder, but I wouldn't turn down good tickets to next year's SB regardless of who plays in it.

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You know I bet these people end up making out in the long run. They may have been put out but now they are getting tickets to next years game and probably will get the VIP treatment. I'm bet the NFL ends up paying for all their cost to this SB.

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LMAO!!! Check this out!!! It reminds me of "we want Dallas"!!!!!!!

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ys-angryfans020611]Fans denied access to seats at Super Bowl - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;783208]LMAO!!! Check this out!!! It reminds me of "we want Dallas"!!!!!!!

[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ys-angryfans020611"]Fans denied access to seats at Super Bowl - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/URL][/quote]

That's just a clasic. I'm guessing from that video that they did not even let them into the stadium until they raised enough hell. I'd be really pissed.

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THAT seems to be the consensus....

[url=http://start.toshiba.com/news/read.php?rip_id=%3CD9L8ANL00%40news.ap.org%3E&ps=1013]Super Bust: Woes were endless for Texas hosts - Toshiba[/url]

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;782575][SIZE=4]Ah yes.....the Super Bowl was created by Jerruh, and as a matter of fact so was the NFL[/SIZE]. :doh:

The NFL brings SBs when possible to new stadiums to help offset the building costs. Let's back off the "Jerruh hosting an event" nonsense.

But God does, and as we can see he hates the Cowturds too.[/quote]

Didn't he invent the internet??

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Those 400 got a great deal though and got to walk on field after the game which never happens

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[quote=skinsfaninok;783516]Those 400 got a great deal though and got to walk on field after the game which never happens[/quote]

I'm not sure that'd be enough for me

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[quote=SmootSmack;783523]I'm not sure that'd be enough for me[/quote]

Well I'd b pissed but they now have a ticket to any SB that they want plus cash, I mean it's not like they left the game Sunday I'm sure thu watched it still.. I'd take that deal

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But hey, at least Jerruh got to parade the Lombardi Trophy up to the podium in the hands of Roger Staubach. Couldn't resist that I guess.

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[quote=Hog1;783515]Didn't he invent the internet??[/quote]

No that was Al Gore.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;783516]Those 400 got a great deal though and got to walk on field after the game which never happens[/quote]

For most fans, watching a SB live never happens.

Stepping on the field AFTER missing the game isn't much of a prize to them.

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Lets see.....God controls the weather??
God Hates Satan?
Dallas has worst weather in history for SB.....
Dallas is Gods team..?....
Dallas is....SATAN'S team!

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@mortreport: NFL on SB 400: 1 free ticket (transferable) plus $2,400 for next yr or 1 ticket, plus air and hotel to any future SB.

The future SB option is non-transferable.

That seems like the best thing the NFL could do. I know it doesn't make up for missing, but if I was going to a Skins SB I would want the opportunity to choose the next Skins SB even if I had to wait a little bit :(

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[quote=Buster;783591]For most fans, watching a SB live never happens.

Stepping on the field AFTER missing the game isn't much of a prize to them.[/quote]

True but they have a FREE ticket to any super bowl game of their choice plus cash back on the seats..

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[quote=skinsfaninok;783605]True but they have a FREE ticket to any super bowl game of their choice plus cash back on the seats..[/quote]

But if you are a fan of GB or Pitt, you did not come to watch just any Super Bowl, whether your entry was free or not. You came to watch THAT Super Bowl.

Imagine the excitement of a 8-year-old Packers fan who is thrilled to see his team play in the Super Bowl. Than, at the last minute, you find out that you aren't really gonna see the game. Do you want to be that kid? Do you want to be the dad who has to break the news to that kid?

A free ticket to see, say, Chicago play New England play in next year's game is not going to cut it as a make-up in this situation.

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[quote=Lotus;783614]But if you are a fan of GB or Pitt, you did not come to watch just any Super Bowl, whether your entry was free or not. You came to watch THAT Super Bowl.

Imagine the excitement of a 8-year-old Packers fan who is thrilled to see his team play in the Super Bowl. Than, at the last minute, you find out that you aren't really gonna see the game. Do you want to be that kid? Do you want to be the dad who has to break the news to that kid?

A free ticket to see, say, Chicago play New England play in next year's game is not going to cut it as a make-up in this situation.[/quote]

I agree to the extent that nothing will make up for losing that moment. But I think the NFL is getting as close as they can to making it right, by their latest offering of airfare, hotel, and a ticket to any SB of your choosing, OR next year's +$2400.

But of course there has been a lawsuit filed, so each of those 400 probably just won the NFL lottery and will be given emotional damages in the amount of 1 cajillion dollars each because
a) they can't make up the priceless moment lost
and
b) it's the NFL (billionaires fighting millionaires) vs the little guy.

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[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2010/news/story?id=6104356]Fans sue NFL, Dallas Cowboys, Jerry Jones over tix issues - ESPN[/url]

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Gotta love it. With this huge mess created by Jerruh and the NFL, wonder how long it'll be before the SB goes back to Dallas?

Seriously though I'd be pissed as hell if I were one of those fans too. The NFL royally screwed up on this one, I wouldn't be suprised if this was an extremely short trial and the NFL just made a settlement to avoid it even going to trial. I can't believe the Cowboys had a month to prepare the stadium for the SB and they couldn't even get the seats ready.

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If I was Goodell, Id be sooooooo pissed at the Cowboy organization. The focus should be now on getting a labor deal done and now he has to deal with this nightmare. Its a flat out embarressment for the league

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I said it before, and I hate defending JJ, but the NFL is mainly responsible for the seat fiasco. They take over the stadium and preparations and the owner organization mainly sits on the sidelines, or provides them with appropriate contacts. Now, JJ probably pushed hard to have those seats sold, and he should not have, but the NFL is the main responsible party in this situation.

[url=http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/super-bowl/local/20110207-nfl-knew-last-week-super-bowl-seats-might-be-unusable-but-who_s-to-blame.ece]NFL knew last week Super Bowl seats might be unusable, but who's to blame? | Super Bowl XLV News - Sports News for Dallas, Texas - SportsDayDFW[/url]

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On the other hand, a leaking roof would fall under JJ's domain :)

[url=http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/2/6/1979182/2011-super-bowl-weather-cowboys-stadium-roof-leak]Add Leaky Cowboys Stadium Roof To 2011 Super Bowl Problems - From Our Editors - SBNation.com[/url]

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[quote=mooby;783634]Gotta love it. With this huge mess created by Jerruh and the NFL, wonder how long it'll be before the SB goes back to Dallas?

Seriously though I'd be pissed as hell if I were one of those fans too. The NFL royally screwed up on this one, I wouldn't be suprised if this was an extremely short trial and the NFL just made a settlement to avoid it even going to trial. I can't believe the Cowboys had a month to prepare the stadium for the SB and they couldn't even get the seats ready.[/quote]

The last game played in that stadium was on Dec 19th so they almost had two months.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;783641]I said it before, and I hate defending JJ, but the NFL is mainly responsible for the seat fiasco. They take over the stadium and preparations and the owner organization mainly sits on the sidelines, or provides them with appropriate contacts. Now, JJ probably pushed hard to have those seats sold, and he should not have, but the NFL is the main responsible party in this situation.

[url=http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/super-bowl/local/20110207-nfl-knew-last-week-super-bowl-seats-might-be-unusable-but-who_s-to-blame.ece]NFL knew last week Super Bowl seats might be unusable, but who's to blame? | Super Bowl XLV News - Sports News for Dallas, Texas - SportsDayDFW[/url][/quote]

I have to respectfully disagree with this. Of course a local newspaper is helping to do some damage control for Jerry.
I manage an arena and I have local fire marshall approval for all of the extra seating options in my arena. In the odd chance there is a set up that we had not thought of and do not have Fire Marshall approval, Rule #1 in any arena, DO NOT sell any tickets until AFTER Fire Marshall signs off on the drawings of the proposed extra seating layout. That is Stadium Management 101 stuff, bush league.
Plus the the people that run the stadium are on first name basis with local Fire Marshalls, not the NFL. The arena management should have had approval months ago.
You throw in the major blunder of not building a motorized height adjustable center screen that is the biggest in creation and you have some major/expensive blunders at that building. Someone is going to lose their job.

I heard on ESPN NFL show today that in the negotiations NFL with players union, the owners are complaining about increased operating costs. When the NFL pays $500,000 to have the F16's do a fly by during the terribly performed national anthem, where the roof is closed and couldn't see the planes. You have to question the NFL leadership as well. So much money is flushed down the toilet.

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[quote=firstdown;783645]The last game played in that stadium was on Dec 19th so they almost had two months.[/quote]

We all know that getting laid with girls in Vegas is more important than logistics for Jerruh.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;783643]On the other hand, a leaking roof would fall under JJ's domain :)

[URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/2/6/1979182/2011-super-bowl-weather-cowboys-stadium-roof-leak"]Add Leaky Cowboys Stadium Roof To 2011 Super Bowl Problems - From Our Editors - SBNation.com[/URL][/quote]

Ok lets not get carried away. The leak was so bad one guy was cleaning it up with a mop. Thats a non issue.

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[quote=Chico23231;783635]If I was Goodell, Id be sooooooo pissed at the Cowboy organization. The focus should be now on getting a labor deal done and now he has to deal with this nightmare. Its a flat out embarressment for the league[/quote]

Thank god it's a NON SKINS story right now

[QUOTE=firstdown;783653]Ok lets not get carried away. The leak was so bad one guy was cleaning it up with a mop. Thats a non issue.[/QUOTE]

Ok, but its a non-issue on a 1.3 BILLION dollar stadium that is less then 2 years old. AND its Jerry Jones stadium. So I can still find room to laugh about it.

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Apparently the Cowboys, not the NFL, are significantly to blame for Ticketgate. They also screwed over their own fan base, not because of technical difficulties with temporary bleachers, but because of a greedy desire to set an attendance record.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/09/class-action-includes-cowboys-psl-owners/]Class action includes Cowboys PSL owners | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=Buster;783072]The butchering of the National Anthem was appropriate for Jerry Jones' event.

Brutal...not that she didn't know the words, but the disrespectful way she "sang" it, trying to put her "style" on it. It's meant to be sang the way it was written. Don't change it up so people remember you. Also, remember the words! :doh:

I wanted to puke. I knew it would be painful to listen to when I saw who was coming out to sing, but I could not have imagined it would be THAT bad. It was down there with Rosanne Barr's attempt, no joking.


HOWEVER...great job by the NFL with the Declaration of Independence presentation (which happened to be on President Reagan's 100th birthday). Great to see Coach Gibbs and Donovan on there along with Colin Powell. We could tell that Jerry had no hand in that production, it went well.[/quote]

The singing of the NA preluding most sporting events has become a spectacle of one-up man ship to determine who can offer the better rendition.

Since Whitney Houston & Marvin Gaye offered their versions, the chase has been on.

[url=http://hamptonroads.com/2011/02/no-need-sing-national-anthem-every-sporting-event]No need to sing national anthem at every sporting event | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com[/url]

Roseanne now thinks her offering was stellar.

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Funny thing is when I started this thread I thought we would get a quick laugh at a few things going wrong for JJ and Dallas hosting the SB. I did not have any idea that things would get this bad for them. Can someone add "And Finish" to my thread title. LOL

The 2010/2011 season will be one for the Cowboys to remember for a long time.

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Now the truly dark side: Jerry Jones was willing to put fans in unsafe seats.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/11/arlington-officials-prevented-cowboys-from-assuming-risk-of-incomplete-seats/]Arlington officials prevented Cowboys from assuming risk of incomplete seats | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=Lotus;784132]Now the truly dark side: Jerry Jones was willing to put fans in unsafe seats.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/11/arlington-officials-prevented-cowboys-from-assuming-risk-of-incomplete-seats/]Arlington officials prevented Cowboys from assuming risk of incomplete seats | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Inside that article it links to this one:
[url=http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/02/11/2842287/documents-outline-cowboys-involvement.html]Documents outline Cowboys' involvement with troubled Super Bowl seating project | Super Bowl ...[/url]

which gives a step by step breakdown of the fiasco from the regulator's documents. Amazing that they didn't even apply for the permit until a month before the SB.

My governmental cynic side though wonders how much of a risk there was, or was this a case of an over zealous regulator. Hard to know for sure, but all in all it seems like the company Seatings Solutions just couldn't get the job done.

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I love every bit of this bad press and financial woes for JJ. If they find him guilty of putting peoples lives in risk or simply using them to generate revenue than I expect him to pay substantially to those families. Maybe he can hauck that mega screen to pay back his debt.