Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

I wouldn't call protecting your brand petty but that's just me.

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

[quote=Mattyk;789249]I wouldn't call protecting your brand petty but that's just me.[/quote]

To me the issue is not whether he protects his brand (anyone in his shoes would do so sometimes), but how he protects his brand. But that's just me. :)

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

How else can he do it though?

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

[quote=Lotus;789230]SS, you are right that this is not a huge deal. You are right that there are many aspects of the situation unknown to us. You are right that such acts of brand protection are not uncommon.

However, the problem here is perception. When you
a) sue grandmas in a recession
b) sue very minor newspapers for minor things
c) strong arm a newspaper column which is offering your team free advertising through the use of the name

...then you look like a very petty, small-minded person.

I don't hate Snyder. But I do think he can be a petty person.[/quote]

Perception seems to be the key word here.

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

And the perpection will always be that Snyder is evil. I get it, not a big fan of him myself but a lot of these things are blown out of proportion.

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/in-internet-age-sports-teams-are-increasingly-in-the-news-business/2011/02/28/ABPkAtV_story_1.html]In Internet age, sports teams are increasingly in the news business - The Washington Post[/url]

I read the article in the OP and the links. The link above talks about a high school athletic conf in Wisc. that doesnt want other internet companies to stream whole games online b/c they contracted with a co. to have exclusive rights to do that.

Streaming whole games is different from having the name "redskins" used in a section of a newspaper imo. A company streaming whole games online goes much more to the earning revenue side in which a company may make a claim that the online co. is making unauth revenue from use of the company. Just putting the name "redskins" as the title of a newspaper section seems much more public domain/freedom of press since the argument that the wash po is deriving unauth. revenue just from including the name "redskins" is much more of a stretch imo.

What NFL, NHL, MLB or NBA team besides the skins have forced their local major newspaper to not use their name the way the wash po had?

Given the legal battle that the DS brought to the citypaper and claims they want to subpoena wash po writers emails/communications and the overal history of the DS and wash po makes the term "forces" more than appropriate imo.

not a big deal in contrast to the other things the DS has done imo, just another example of the DS further alienating himself from the major newspaper in the city and the fans.

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

I think the bigger issue was probably the video webcasts the Post was streaming

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

[quote=Mattyk;789256]And the perpection will always be that Snyder is evil. I get it, not a big fan of him myself but a lot of these things are blown out of proportion.[/quote]

I think we are in essential agreement. I don't view Snyder as "evil," which is a word better reserved for the bin Ladens of the world. I just think that he can be very petty. And in this case, poorly timed.

As said, this is not a big deal. I'm done here. :)

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

Penis Insider.


Think about it.

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

[quote=SmootSmack;789270]I think the bigger issue was probably the video webcasts the Post was streaming[/quote]

Thats what I thought as well, the video streaming of parts of skins games etc, but the wash po (maybe probably self servingly to slant the action as petty) only mentioned changing the name and didnt mention the videos.

I dont go to the wash po for videos, i go to the nfl site who have a great database of categorized videos.

If its about videos, it makes the decision more understandable to me as i could see fans going to the wash po for videos of their team instead of the redskins official site which also has videos or other sites that have contracted with the team for authorization to use videos.

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

[quote=over the mountain;789283]Thats what I thought as well, the video streaming of parts of skins games etc, but the wash po (maybe probably self servingly to slant the action as petty) only mentioned changing the name and didnt mention the videos.

I dont go to the wash po for videos, i go to the nfl site who have a great database of categorized videos.

If its about videos, it makes the decision more understandable to me as i could see fans going to the wash po for videos of their team instead of the redskins official site which also has videos or other sites that have contracted with the team for authorization to use videos.[/quote]

From the article:

The Redskins recently asked The Washington Post to rename the newspaper’s video webcast and blog about the team, which was called “Redskins Insider,” according to people who have knowledge of the circumstances. The team had used the name “Redskins Insider” first, and The Post agreed to switch to “Football Insider.”

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Maybe one day I'll be able to tell you guys about similar issues we have with different teams and leagues ("we" being the we that pays me). For now, I'm obligated to do no more than just say it's not uncommon

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

[quote=Angry;789272]Penis Insider.


Think about it.[/quote]

That's the publication on Pen Island.

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

SS, I understand that other teams do this and it's their right to protect their labels and product. I get that, I really do.

However, I also read that the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles all have media outlets that have similar blogs or sections in their coverage.


Let's be honest. This boils down to Dan Snyder being a punk ass bitch. He's hated the WaPO since he's taken over because he can't stand criticism. Don't believe me? Read this reporters experience with Dan Snyder first hand. Appalling.

[url=http://www.feinsteinonthebrink.com/index.php?id=1973036700166414836]Feinstein On The Brink[/url]


You don't think this isn't about Danny boy's beef with the WaPO because they've killed him in the papers? You are fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

I'm sorry, I certainly don't agree with the assessment that Dan Snyder's actions are overblown. Why is it you don't hear a single issue with other owners and the media? I can tell you why. Because most of the other owners are smart enough not to fight with the very people who are covering you.



It's funny though. Dan sure as hell didn't have a problem stealing somebody else name for profit.

[url=http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/39754/dan-snyder-vs-the-kennedys-it-has-hooters-and-cigar]Dan Snyder vs. the Kennedys: It Has Hooters and Cigar-Bar Access, But Should it Have RFK's Initials? - Washington City Paper[/url]



Let's not forget this gem. Threatening to fire a cheerleader if her husband talked to a competing media outlet. Overblown? ...lol No, his actions speak to his character.
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/04/AR2010050403588.html]Redskins owner apologizes over TV dispute involving cheerleader[/url]


No. **** Dan Snyder. He'll never atone for the shit he's done to the team. The only way he has a chance if he stays the **** out of the public eye and not speak at all unless it's a charity events. I don't want to hear a single word from this man unless it's "I'm selling the team".

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

^ that's exactly the way I feel.

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

[quote=SmootSmack;789284]From the article:

The Redskins recently asked The Washington Post to rename the newspaper’s video webcast and blog about the team, which was called “Redskins Insider,” according to people who have knowledge of the circumstances. [B]The team had used the name “Redskins Insider” first, and The Post agreed to switch to “Football Insider.”[/B][/quote]This is the part that I don't really get.

Maybe I'm wrong, but if the main issue really is that the Skins' website used the name "Redskins Insider" before The Post then couldn't the Post have simply changed the name of their blog/webcasts to something that's still Redskins-related? "The Redskins Post Source" or "'Skins News" or whatever, I just don't see why they felt the need to go [I]so[/I] generic with the name unless they're just trying to prove a point.

And again, I'm probably missing a bigger issue.

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

[quote=mlmpetert;789122]I really hate this guy. Also my bad about the really long title, please feel free to edit.....[/quote]

Which guy?

Dan Snyder? Dan Steinberg? Paul Farhi?

All of the above?

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;789330]This is the part that I don't really get.

Maybe I'm wrong, but if the main issue really is that the Skins' website used the name "Redskins Insider" before The Post then couldn't the Post have simply changed the name of their blog/webcasts to something that's still Redskins-related? "The Redskins Post Source" or "'Skins News" or whatever, I just don't see why they felt the need to go [I]so[/I] generic with the name unless they're just trying to prove a point.

And again, I'm probably missing a bigger issue.[/quote]

The main issue is the use of 'Redskins'

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

I think this really needs to be said "Who Cares".

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

[quote=NC_Skins;789324]SS, I understand that other teams do this and it's their right to protect their labels and product. I get that, I really do.

However, I also read that the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles all have media outlets that have similar blogs or sections in their coverage.[/quote]

Maybe they don't have other contractual obligations with other media. And they're not talking about shutting down the blog, just changing the name. Do all these other outlets use the team name in their title or do they use generic names such as Birds' Eye View in the Philadelphia Inquirer, or

[quote]
Let's be honest. This boils down to Dan Snyder being a punk ass bitch. He's hated the WaPO since he's taken over because he can't stand criticism. Don't believe me? Read this reporters experience with Dan Snyder first hand. Appalling.[/quote]

What about when I was working at a tv station helping launch a new Sunday night show and we got a letter from John Kent Cooke after the first episode saying we had to remove the word Redskins from the title? Can I call Cooke a punk ass bitch?

[quote][url=http://www.feinsteinonthebrink.com/index.php?id=1973036700166414836]Feinstein On The Brink[/url][/quote]

The guy who called Shanahan a racist for benching McNabb? Yeah, who's the bitch now?

[quote]
You don't think this isn't about Danny boy's beef with the WaPO because they've killed him in the papers? You are fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

I'm sorry, I certainly don't agree with the assessment that Dan Snyder's actions are overblown. Why is it you don't hear a single issue with other owners and the media? I can tell you why. Because most of the other owners are smart enough not to fight with the very people who are covering you.[/quote]

Actually because the media usually doesn't talk about it. We've had to make several adjustments but we don't go around saying "Bud Selig made us do this"

[quote]
It's funny though. Dan sure as hell didn't have a problem stealing somebody else name for profit.

[url=http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/39754/dan-snyder-vs-the-kennedys-it-has-hooters-and-cigar]Dan Snyder vs. the Kennedys: It Has Hooters and Cigar-Bar Access, But Should it Have RFK's Initials? - Washington City Paper[/url][/quote]

I think that's the first I've heard this story

[quote]Let's not forget this gem. Threatening to fire a cheerleader if her husband talked to a competing media outlet. Overblown? ...lol No, his actions speak to his character.
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/04/AR2010050403588.html]Redskins owner apologizes over TV dispute involving cheerleader[/url][/quote]

I don't think we read the same article there, looked like a misunderstanding to me. But whatever, Snyder caused the mess in Iraq...

[quote]
No. **** Dan Snyder. He'll never atone for the shit he's done to the team. The only way he has a chance if he stays the **** out of the public eye and not speak at all unless it's a charity events. I don't want to hear a single word from this man unless it's "I'm selling the team".[/quote]

Fine, whatever

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

[quote=NC_Skins;789324]SS, I understand that other teams do this and it's their right to protect their labels and product. I get that, I really do.

However, I also read that the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles all have media outlets that have similar blogs or sections in their coverage.


Let's be honest. This boils down to Dan Snyder being a punk ass bitch. He's hated the WaPO since he's taken over because he can't stand criticism. Don't believe me? Read this reporters experience with Dan Snyder first hand. Appalling.

[url=http://www.feinsteinonthebrink.com/index.php?id=1973036700166414836]Feinstein On The Brink[/url]


You don't think this isn't about Danny boy's beef with the WaPO because they've killed him in the papers? You are fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

I'm sorry, I certainly don't agree with the assessment that Dan Snyder's actions are overblown. Why is it you don't hear a single issue with other owners and the media? I can tell you why. Because most of the other owners are smart enough not to fight with the very people who are covering you.



It's funny though. Dan sure as hell didn't have a problem stealing somebody else name for profit.

[url=http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/39754/dan-snyder-vs-the-kennedys-it-has-hooters-and-cigar]Dan Snyder vs. the Kennedys: It Has Hooters and Cigar-Bar Access, But Should it Have RFK's Initials? - Washington City Paper[/url]



Let's not forget this gem. Threatening to fire a cheerleader if her husband talked to a competing media outlet. Overblown? ...lol No, his actions speak to his character.
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/04/AR2010050403588.html]Redskins owner apologizes over TV dispute involving cheerleader[/url]


No. **** Dan Snyder. He'll never atone for the shit he's done to the team. The only way he has a chance if he stays the **** out of the public eye and not speak at all unless it's a charity events. I don't want to hear a single word from this man unless it's "I'm selling the team".[/quote]

right there with you, i am so tired of people defending this guy. the reason so many fans dislike him is because of [B]his[/B] actions and [B]his[/B] words. it's just weird to me that there are actually supporters of dan snyder, and vinny cerratto for that matter as well. i can see not hating the guy, but for people to back what he does and try to defend him blows my mind. he is a bad person, who either never has or refuses to learn from his mistakes. and he continually tries to control the media and the image they portray of him.

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

I thought the reason they moved the team to the Washington area was to get more fans, and build support for the team. One would imagine that in this time of money issues, the same would apply.

Side note, at least my sig line applies again.

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

Gasp! The old articles still use "Redskins Insider" in the URL and as the page title! Somebody get Snyder on the phone ASAP!

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Danny bought the team, and the name, he decides who can use it.....period!

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

Some of you express your hatred for the owner but still tune into the televised games and rock the official merchandise. If you knew anything about business you would not support an enitity owned/operated by someone you despise so much. Either;

a). boycott anything Snyder gets paid on

or

b). keep shooting the B&G magic into your veins and smile at the dope man....quietly.

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[quote=SmootSmack;789270]I think the bigger issue was probably the video webcasts the Post was streaming[/quote]


Not sure about this so don't shoot me but didn't George Michaels have a problem like this with his Sports Machine show when it first started?

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[quote=Giantone;789364]Not sure about this so don't shoot me but didn't George Michaels have a problem like this with his Sports Machine show when it first started?[/quote]

Um...I won't comment on who had a problem with what...

Why are we boycotting?

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

[quote=Son Of Man;789360]Some of you express your hatred for the owner but still tune into the televised games and rock the official merchandise. If you knew anything about business you would not support an enitity owned/operated by someone you despise so much. Either;

a). boycott anything Snyder gets paid on

or

b). keep shooting the B&G magic into your veins and smile at the dope man....quietly.[/quote]


or

c) Don't go to games, don't buy merchandise, don't buy NFL ticket but still go to bars to watch the games or stream it live via feed from internet broadcast.


I'll take option C. thanks.

I don't support Dan Snyder. He's getting money off TV deals whether I watch or not.

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

[quote=mlmdub130;789345]right there with you, i am so tired of people defending this guy. the reason so many fans dislike him is because of [B]his[/B] actions and [B]his[/B] words. it's just weird to me that there are actually supporters of dan snyder, and vinny cerratto for that matter as well. i can see not hating the guy, but for people to back what he does and try to defend him blows my mind. he is a bad person, who either never has or refuses to learn from his mistakes. and he continually tries to control the media and the image they portray of him.[/quote]

Snyder is the devil:FIREdevil

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

[quote=mlmdub130;789345]right there with you, i am so tired of people defending this guy. the reason so many fans dislike him is because of [B]his[/B] actions and [B]his[/B] words. it's just weird to me that there are actually supporters of dan snyder, and vinny cerratto for that matter as well. i can see not hating the guy, but for people to back what he does and try to defend him blows my mind. he is a bad person, who either never has or refuses to learn from his mistakes. and he continually tries to control the media and the image they portray of him.[/quote]

.......the off....season.........

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Danny Boy is not worthy of hate. Save "hatred" for folks like serial killers, child molesters, the "East Coast Rapist", Bernie Madoff and folks who harm people or ruin other people's lives.

Danny Boy has run a piss-poor operation out of Ashburn VA for the last 10 years or so. He has fired a bunch of people on his whim and he has sued people just because he can. That may make him difficult to tolerate, but he is not worthy of hatred.

Step back and take a deep breath here...

And no one here can possibly accuse me of being an apologist or a supporter of Danny Boy Snyder.

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

[quote]Some of you express your hatred for the owner but still tune into the televised games and rock the official merchandise. If you knew anything about business you would not support an enitity owned/operated by someone you despise so much. Either;

a). boycott anything Snyder gets paid on

or

b). keep shooting the B&G magic into your veins and smile at the dope man....quietly.
__________________[/quote]

I can say that not one penny has come out of my pocket into his...mainly because I don't have much money in the first place.

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[url=http://www.slate.com/id/2288503/]Redskins owner Dan Snyder's alleged media grab? Don't worry about it. - By Jack Shafer - Slate Magazine[/url]

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

[quote=SmootSmack;789366]Um...I won't comment on who had a problem with what...

[B]Why are we boycotting[/B]?[/quote]

Because for whatever damn reason they feel that is what they should do. I told Chad Dukes yesterday that stuff like this really doesn't concern me. All I care about are Sundays. That they can still report on the redskins, still bash them if they want, and still cover them without changing anything but a name. I was told that IF i cared about Sundays then i should be pissed ? Why ? I don't know, however, my little youtube shoe that 6 people watch will have my reson for why this is so F'n retarded as well as the dumbing down of the Washington Redskins fan !

If you are so wuick to say If they do this then I'm done, ****ing roll. Accept that you don't give two F's about things outside of football or stop rooting. This hating yourself for being a redskins fan is idiotic people, it's not like you're legally tied to this team or something.

Smoot I don't get it, but hey. If the fan tells us to boycott, damnit, then we should boycott !

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

Nice rant...but I was actually asking GiantOne about his sig. G-1, I got your PM. That's tough; stay strong

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[quote=SmootSmack;789342]Maybe they don't have other contractual obligations with other media. And they're not talking about shutting down the blog, just changing the name. Do all these other outlets use the team name in their title or do they use generic names such as Birds' Eye View in the Philadelphia Inquirer, or [/quote]

[url=http://www.post-gazette.com/steelers/]Post-Gazette.com - Pittsburgh Steelers[/url]
[url=http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/]Dallas Cowboys News - Sports News for Dallas, Texas - SportsDayDFW[/url]
[url=http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/]Philadelphia Eagles[/url]

They have a Cowboys, Mavericks, Stars, etc sections under their sports. Is that really any different than the WaPO having a Redskins Insider portion of their sports? (same with philly) Take in mind, I do not know if the DMN or Philly.com has a contract with their teams or not. Would it be fine if the WaPo had subsections like they do?


[quote=SmootSmack;789342]What about when I was working at a tv station helping launch a new Sunday night show and we got a letter from John Kent Cooke after the first episode saying we had to remove the word Redskins from the title? Can I call Cooke a punk ass bitch?[/quote]

I'm sorry, did you just really compare JKC to Snyder? Cooke was beloved by the fans because of his good nature (may have been a ass to his family) and left a good portion of his inheritance to his foundation to help kids with scholarships. Just curious, do you see Snyder doing such a thing? Yeah, neither do I so lets not compare apples to oranges. You mentioned a TV show. I think that's a bit different than a newspaper blog. Wouldn't you agree? To answer your question, if JKC had done the things that Snyder has, he'd definitely be considered a punk ass bitch.


[quote=SmootSmack;789342]The guy who called Shanahan a racist for benching McNabb? Yeah, who's the bitch now?[/quote]

So because a writer states a asinine opinion on something, that invalidates anything else he writes? Really? I think his stupidity in calling Shanahan racist has absolutely no bearing on his account with Dan Snyder. The fact you are playing the straw man bit doesn't bode well your retort.



[quote=SmootSmack;789342]Actually because the media usually doesn't talk about it. We've had to make several adjustments but we don't go around saying "Bud Selig made us do this"[/quote]


Bud Selig isn't looked at as a owner. He's a commissioner. I said owners. Name me one other owner that has the type of PR problem that Sndyer has with the media. Selig will also go down as MLBs worst commissioner ever. Not something I would hang my hat on.


[quote=SmootSmack;789342]I think that's the first I've heard this story[/quote]

I'm sure there are tons we haven't heard about. Do you read McKenna's work? The man clearly has a agenda, but his articles are informative and backed up with fact.



[quote=SmootSmack;789342]I don't think we read the same article there, looked like a misunderstanding to me. But whatever, Snyder caused the mess in Iraq...[/quote]

No, this was the follow up article after Snyder caught shit tons of flack for this encounter. This wasn't some "misunderstanding" that happened. This was Dan Snyder bullying the competing stations. See example below.

[url=http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/38291/the-king-of-pay-to-play-broadcasting-george-michael-was]The King of Pay-to-Play Broadcasting: George Michael was ahead of his time. - Washington City Paper[/url]

[quote]There were victims in the schemes Michael and Snyder worked out, too. Only one network affiliate didn’t follow Michael’s lead and become a “media partner” with Snyder: WJLA-7.

Snyder punished the station for not going along with the system he’d set up. Beginning with newscasts in the 2000 training camp, while Michael and sportscasters from WTTG and WUSA were allowed to broadcast their live shots from inside Redskins Park, WJLA folks were banished from the team’s headquarters.

“We spent the season shooting in the Redskins Park parking lot,” recalls former WJLA sportscaster Rene Knott. “Those were the days.”[/quote]


You act like this is the first time he's shit on the opposing media firms that didn't hand over money to him. No, there is no misunderstanding. It was WJLA (notified by her husband) that came to the Redskins to do the story, and he banned them and got his crew in to cover the story.

[quote]Luhn said he asked Stephanie Jojokian, the cheerleaders' director, whether WJLA could interview Kristin Edick and her husband afterward, outside the stadium or even at a restaurant.

"She could do that, but she'll no longer be a Redskins cheerleader," Luhn recalls Jojokian saying. "She is contractually obligated to the Redskins." [/quote]

That doesn't sound like a misunderstanding. That sounds like a person directed by a PR department (and most likely Synder doing).


I guess many of these other things listed up on this article are "misunderstandings" as well?

[url=http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/40063/the-cranky-redskins-fans-guide-to-dan-snyder/]The Cranky Redskins Fan's Guide to Dan Snyder - Washington City Paper[/url]


Listen, let's not go that "But whatever, Snyder caused the mess in Iraq..." route. It's petty, much like Danny boy is. I don't blame Dan for anything that he's isn't responsible for. I don't blame Danny for the world being the way it is or anything outside his realm. I hold people accountable based on their actions and so far, he's failed miserably and continues down that same path.

As I said before, I'm not as upset at this move as some of his others, but considering his standing in the community/media, it was best to not say anything. That is the best thing Danny boy can do at this point. If he wants to make a name for himself, how about he ship that jet over to japan loaded with supplies and crews to help with the search for missing people. Now THAT is something I want to see from Dan, and something I'll applaud. You have to wonder why in the hell did he hire Tony Wyllie because these latest PR moves have been horrible. Oh yeah, so he can have somebody else to blame for his blunders.

Re: Danny Snyder Forces The Washington Post to Rename “Redskins Insider” to “Football Insider”
 

[quote=NC_Skins;789432][url=http://www.post-gazette.com/steelers/]Post-Gazette.com - Pittsburgh Steelers[/url]
[url=http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/]Dallas Cowboys News - Sports News for Dallas, Texas - SportsDayDFW[/url]
[url=http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/]Philadelphia Eagles[/url]

They have a Cowboys, Mavericks, Stars, etc sections under their sports. Is that really any different than the WaPO having a Redskins Insider portion of their sports? (same with philly) Take in mind, I do not know if the DMN or Philly.com has a contract with their teams or not. Would it be fine if the WaPo had subsections like they do?[/quote]

The Washington Post has a Redskins news section, just like the Gazette, DMN, and Philly.com have for their teams. But this isn't about that section of the paper. It's about the blogs and the video webcasts. Philly.com has Birds Eye View and the Gazette has Blog and Gold.

[quote]
I'm sorry, did you just really compare JKC to Snyder? Cooke was beloved by the fans because of his good nature (may have been a ass to his family) and left a good portion of his inheritance to his foundation to help kids with scholarships. Just curious, do you see Snyder doing such a thing? Yeah, neither do I so lets not compare apples to oranges. You mentioned a TV show. I think that's a bit different than a newspaper blog. Wouldn't you agree? To answer your question, if JKC had done the things that Snyder has, he'd definitely be considered a punk ass bitch.[/quote]

First of all, I said John Kent Cooke, not Jack. And secondly, in today's era a Sunday night TV show on local news is not much different from a daily blog and video webcast in a newspaper. It's kind of funny though it's ok to be an ass to your family, it seems.

[quote]So because a writer states a asinine opinion on something, that invalidates anything else he writes? Really? I think his stupidity in calling Shanahan racist has absolutely no bearing on his account with Dan Snyder. The fact you are playing the straw man bit doesn't bode well your retort.[/quote]

Fine


[quote]Bud Selig isn't looked at as a owner. He's a commissioner. I said owners. Name me one other owner that has the type of PR problem that Sndyer has with the media. Selig will also go down as MLBs worst commissioner ever. Not something I would hang my hat on.[/quote]

Donald Sterling? Either way, Snyder's problem is due to as much to public ignorance than anything else, in my opinion.


[quote]I'm sure there are tons we haven't heard about. Do you read McKenna's work? The man clearly has a agenda, but his articles are informative and backed up with fact.[/quote]

Not always fact, or it's not always entirely factual. But that's another debate for another day-which I've already had

[quote]No, this was the follow up article after Snyder caught shit tons of flack for this encounter. This wasn't some "misunderstanding" that happened. This was Dan Snyder bullying the competing stations. See example below.

[url=http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/38291/the-king-of-pay-to-play-broadcasting-george-michael-was]The King of Pay-to-Play Broadcasting: George Michael was ahead of his time. - Washington City Paper[/url]

You act like this is the first time he's shit on the opposing media firms that didn't hand over money to him. No, there is no misunderstanding. It was WJLA (notified by her husband) that came to the Redskins to do the story, and he banned them and got his crew in to cover the story.

That doesn't sound like a misunderstanding. That sounds like a person directed by a PR department (and most likely Synder doing).

I guess many of these other things listed up on this article are "misunderstandings" as well?[/quote]

Fine...but I've been that person (not Rene Knott, mind you) reporting from the parking lot..and it was long before Snyder stepped foot in Redskins Park

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Listen, let's not go that "But whatever, Snyder caused the mess in Iraq..." route. It's petty, much like Danny boy is. I don't blame Dan for anything that he's isn't responsible for. I don't blame Danny for the world being the way it is or anything outside his realm. I hold people accountable based on their actions and so far, he's failed miserably and continues down that same path.

As I said before, I'm not as upset at this move as some of his others, but considering his standing in the community/media, it was best to not say anything. That is the best thing Danny boy can do at this point. If he wants to make a name for himself, how about he ship that jet over to japan loaded with supplies and crews to help with the search for missing people. Now THAT is something I want to see from Dan, and something I'll applaud. You have to wonder why in the hell did he hire Tony Wyllie because these latest PR moves have been horrible. Oh yeah, so he can have somebody else to blame for his blunders.[/quote]

Send supplies? Like when he did this?

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/10068/redskins-join-in-haiti-relief-effort]Redskins join in Haiti relief effort - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

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Send supplies? Like when he did this?

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/10068/redskins-join-in-haiti-relief-effort]Redskins join in Haiti relief effort - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Pfffft ... PR fluff article. Mosley is probably on the payroll. ;)

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Wow! NC Skins has ALOT of free time.

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[quote=SmootSmack;789431]Nice rant...but I was actually asking GiantOne about his sig. G-1, I got your PM. That's tough; stay strong[/quote]

My bad, but it still holds true.

G-1 I don't need to know but whatever it is,... Keep Your head up !