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Gabbert, Newton, Locker at # 10 or Locker at # 41. Bowers.

2nd tier nightmare: Aldon Smith (bad fit at 5 tech in 3-4, don't think this is a good DE to OLB project)

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[quote=SmootSmack;792583]So for those of you who say Locker. Is the nightmare drafting him or drafting him in the 1st round?

Suppose we took him at #41 overall? Ok with that?[/quote]

still a nightmare. kyle boller 2.

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It would have to be Cam Newton hands down. For the life of me I have no idea why someone would pick this guy in the first round, or second round.

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Any of the current "1st round QBs". They are all either a headcase and/or phyisically overrated.

I agree Ingram would be bad...any RB at 10 would be bad to me.

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My biggest nightmare would be on Draft day if they show the Redskins war room and Vinny Cerrato could be seen yucking it up with front office personnel.

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[quote=NC_Skins;792659]My biggest nightmare would be on Draft day if they show the Redskins war room and Vinny Cerrato could be seen yucking it up with front office personnel.[/quote]

Nightmare!! More like a Horror Scene :vomit:

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a nightmare for me would be staying at 10 and drafting anything other than a pass-rusher or Julio Jones.

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I guess...Jones. We have bigger fish to fry then WR plus I think Green is the better WR.

My real nightmare would be coming out of this draft without a QB to build around.

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Jake Locker

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Quinn in the first. I don't like the idea of getting a guy that had to miss an entire year (at least it wasn't for an injury), on top of the potential to miss more time with the lockout. He'd be rusty and we'd probably be asking him to change positions. Not a good combo IMO.

In round 2 I'd be pissed if we went with McShay's new mock and took Kaepernick in the 2nd. I'd rather risk trying to get Stanzi in the 5th.

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[quote=celts32;792673]I guess...Jones. We have bigger fish to fry then WR plus I think Green is the better WR.

My real nightmare would be coming out of this draft without a QB to build around.[/quote]

QB is the one position you don't want to make a mistake on. Most will agree we need a QB but, what we don't need is to reach just because we have a need.

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[quote=Chico23231;792579]Tough one, Quinn or Locker at 10 I wouldnt like.[/quote]

Tremendous hurdle for Quinn to overcome. He's a very fortunate young man.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/nfl-draft-uncs-robert-quinn-may-be-within-redskins-reach/2011/04/08/AFnNxp1C_blog.html]NFL draft: UNC’s Robert Quinn may be within Redskins’ reach - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]

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Worst case scenario for me.... Cam Newton.

Best case scenario for me.... trade out of the 10th pick, get another 2nd round pick, draft either a RT to shore up the bookends or a Center to replace Rahback, draft a QB in the second (for me: Dalton or Ponder), and hopefully with the second #2 we can get a NT.

After that get what you want WR, RB, CB, K.... I don't care.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;792689]Quinn in the first. I don't like the idea of getting a guy that had to miss an entire year (at least it wasn't for an injury), on top of the potential to miss more time with the lockout. He'd be rusty and we'd probably be asking him to change positions. Not a good combo IMO.

In round 2 I'd be pissed if we went with McShay's new mock and took Kaepernick in the 2nd. I'd rather risk trying to get Stanzi in the 5th.[/quote]

Funny how some of us have exact polar opposite opinions. My ideal draft if we stay is Quinn in the 1st and kaepernick in the 2nd.

IMO kaepernick with our 2nd would be the best qb for the value/spot taken in the draft. Newton gabbert locker and probably ponder are all going to go far sooner than they deserve.

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I think the missing link is going to be what teams actually go after a QB and who they take prior to the #10 pick. It seemed only 1 or 2 teams have been mentioned as definitley needing one and most likely will pick one but I have a feeling there might be other teams who are looking also.
Carolina- might not be infatuated with last yrs pick.
Denver- same as above.
Buffalo- could pull the trigger for a QB.
Cinci- if Palmer leaves.
Arizona- despiratly needs one.
San Fran- not happy with their stable.
Tenn- needs a young QB to replace Young.
Washington- needs a Franchise QB.

I'm not saying they all will go after a QB with all the talent at other positions sitting on the board, but I could see more then 1 or 2 taking someone they are interested in if the QB is still on the board at their pick. Whats funnier is even the media is starting to talk about this very issue. It all could be all smoke and mirrors in order to get a sucker to trade up to get a specific player.

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[quote=Longtimefan;792701]QB is the one position you don't want to make a mistake on. Most will agree we need a QB but, what we don't need is to reach just because we have a need.[/quote]

How long is Shanny planning on coaching? This is already year 2 and it takes time to groom a QB. If he does not identify a QB that he can work with out of this draft and go get him then we are in trouble.

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[quote=celts32;792730]How long is Shanny planning on coaching? This is already year 2 and it takes time to groom a QB. If he does not identify a QB that he can work with out of this draft and go get him then we are in trouble.[/quote]

I thought Shanny had a 5 yr deal? This being year 2 he will have 3 yrs to develope someone if need be and thats not mentioning if he steps back and hands the reigns to his son to be HC.

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I'm with Smoot; Mallett would scare me, but I really have no fear of that. I am a little worried that AJ Green slips to us, and a little less worried about J. Jones. While I would love to see us draft a great wr it is such a boom/bust position & we aren't in a good position to do it. I have a bad feeling about Green, maybe just because of his low wonderlic.

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[quote=celts32;792730]How long is Shanny planning on coaching? This is already year 2 and it takes time to groom a QB. If he does not identify a QB that he can work with out of this draft and go get him then we are in trouble.[/quote]

I understand what you're saying but, I guess my concern is exactly where in the draft does he identify and draft that QB. I don't see the Redskins taking a QB at #10, we don't have another selection until #41. Depending on what other teams do when it comes to QB's you have to wonder who's going to be there for development purposes, as well as what we do in the interim.

My hope is that we could find a willing partner, trade down the 1st round and recoup a 2nd or 3rd which we so desperately need, making it easier to obtain that developmental QB especially since I don't see any of the top QB prospects being NFL ready year one.

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Julio Jones.

Robert Quinn a close second as I don't think pouring that kind of $$$$ (between he and Orakpo) on one position would make sense.

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[quote=freddyg12;792736]I'm with Smoot; Mallett would scare me, but I really have no fear of that. I am a little worried that AJ Green slips to us, and a little less worried about J. Jones. While I would love to see us draft a great wr it is such a boom/bust position & we aren't in a good position to do it. I have a bad feeling about Green, maybe just because of his low wonderlic.[/quote]

Hopefully Green or Jones will slip to us and then be used as trade-back bait. I agree with you about actually drafting them.

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[quote=Longtimefan;792739]I understand what you're saying but, I guess my concern is exactly where in the draft does he identify and draft that QB. I don't see the Redskins taking a QB at #10, we don't have another selection until #41. Depending on what other teams do when it comes to QB's you have to wonder who's going to be there for development purposes, as well as what we do in the interim.

My hope is that we could find a willing partner, trade down the 1st round and recoup a 2nd or 3rd which we so desperately need, making it easier to obtain that developmental QB especially since I don't see any of the top QB prospects being NFL ready year one.[/quote]

Granted it's not very fun for message board purposes but i would need to see the organizations grades on this QB class to really know what I want them to do. If they have a franchise QB grade on one of these guys I want them to get him at all costs. But if they have no extremely high grades on any of them but a few they like then i want them to play it cool and follow their draft board and hope one of their picks matches up with a QB they like.

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[quote=SBXVII;792735]I thought Shanny had a 5 yr deal? This being year 2 he will have 3 yrs to develope someone if need be and thats not mentioning if he steps back and hands the reigns to his son to be HC.[/quote]

Sure he has a 5 year deal but we are going into year 2 and if you assume they pass on QB's this year then we are talking year 3...and if you figure a couple years of grooming to get the QB to the point where you can really contend for a Super bowl with him then where does that put us? I don't think you can assume a hand off to Kyle unless the team is winning and there is something built thats worth continuing on with. I know they have other needs but i just don't see this regime taking off until they settle the QB issue. I just hope they like someone...I don't even care who it is...just that they like him.

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:drink[quote=celts32;792744]Granted it's not very fun for message board purposes but i would need to see the organizations grades on this QB class to really know what I want them to do. If they have a franchise QB grade on one of these guys I want them to get him at all costs. But if they have no extremely high grades on any of them but a few they like then i want them to play it cool and follow their draft board and hope one of their picks matches up with a QB they like.[/quote]

I'll :drink to that!

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I wouldn't want to see the Skins draft any of the current crop of QB's at #10.

Also, I hate the idea of taking a WR at #10 because there have been far too many 1st Round busts at the WR position (and we've had more than our fair share of WR busts). That said, we might be forced to take AJ Green if he is still available at #10.

There is no RB, OL or NT in this draft that I would like at #10 and there is little chance that we would take a TE, S, or ILB there.

That leaves OLB, DE, and CB. Miller is probably the only OLB that I'd take at #10. I'd probably take Peterson or Prince at #10, as well, because of the great value of a shutdown corner (and there is no guarantee that the Skins will re-sign Carlos Rogers). I'm not sold on any DE at #10.

So, I'd have to say that there are only about four players who would [U]not[/U] be a nightmare for me at #10. To be honest, I wouldn't be satisfied with one of them either because I believe that we need to build a foundation for this team and I'd like to see us trade down and acquire more picks.

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[quote=SmootSmack;792572]Which potential 1st round pick do you absolutely not want?

And first round within reason. Meaning players who are reasonably expected to likely be 1st round picks.

I'll start. My nightmare pick would be Ryan Mallett. Yes, he's got the arm strength, but that's about it.[/quote]

SS-Mallett isn't really a legitmate option at 10.

Would you be against Mallett at 41?
I wouldn't.

I don't understand threads like this though.
It seems to needlessly foster negativity.

The draft is a crap shoot anyway with no proven means of successful predicting success.
I don't get the point of holding strong negative opinions about prospects that could end up playing for your team.

The following would make sense to me at the 10 spot by tiers:

(a) trade down

(1) OT, RDE, QB

(2) OLB, WR, CB





BuckSkin-
LoL, I didn't mean to sell anyone, does this help....
Locker sucks! J/K

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Well I said 1st round, not necessarily 10th overall. And it's not like this site is all candy and roses and I came along with this thread like a black cloud bringing negativity. But it was just to bring about some fresh discussion. If anything, we've learned that just about every possible pick for the Skins is going to upset at least someone. And no I don't want Mallet at 41 either

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I'd take Mallett number 1 he's the next Dan Marino

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I miss free agency :(

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[quote=Dirtbag59;792834]I miss free agency :([/quote]

That's why I turned to haikus.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;792833]I'd take Mallett number 1 he's the next Dan Marino[/quote]

Are you serious?

If so, I can see the comparison because, like Marino, Mallett is a statue with a great arm and excellent accuracy. But Marino had the ability to make lightning quick decisons and he had an extremely quick release and I don't see those traits in Mallett.

Marino also played behind a great OL and, when Marino played, the defenses didn't come at the QB with the kind of sophisticated blitzes that they employ today. Mallett probably won't have a great OL and the way defenses play now makes it harder for a immobile QB to succeed.

As for the possibility of the Redskins drafting Mallett, I would say that the odds of that happening would be low unless he dropped so far that Shanahan just couldn't justify not doing so. But the Skins taking Mallett at #10 would definitely be a draft pick nightmare for me.

Shanahan has clearly shown that he prefers to have a mobile QB. To me, Jake Locker (who is a lot like Jake "The Snake" Plummer but with a better arm) is the type of QB Shanahan would want. If Shanahan were to take Locker at #10, I wouldn't like it but I'd try to reserve judgement on the pick.

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^ lol no Im not serious but it was Fun to get a reaction

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I think A.J. Green and Julio Jones are safe picks at 10th overall.

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[quote=Lotus;792840]That's why I turned to haikus.[/quote]

So much money to spend
Yet No one to Accept
Depression Reigns Supreme.

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on the precipice
facing success or abyss
whispers....quarterback

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Creating a team
Cannot sign a veteran
Ugh this really sucks.

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The Thread Title Posed the question 'What Potential 1st Rounder would you want' If AJ Green or Julio Jones are not considered 1st rounders then maybe Skinsfaninok or whatever the hell that name is, you need to learn to read. I simply stated who i thought would be my first round pick and those are the 2 best recievers in the draft. Skinsfaninok you need to just learn to read man and stopped trying to cause hate & discontent. I also say it would be a mistake to get rid of McNabb, he had his worse year with his first year with us but he had no line and how many of those losing games could have been wins, they were by less then a touchdown. If those had of been wins we would have been in the playoffs, DM will be fine, just get him someone to catch the ball and some protection.

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Mobass...you're like a new member nightmare. The question is who do you NOT want. Why do you think the title of the thread is "draft pick nightmare"

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[quote=MoBass;792881]The Thread Title Posed the question 'What Potential 1st Rounder would you want' If AJ Green or Julio Jones are not considered 1st rounders then maybe Skinsfaninok or whatever the hell that name is, you need to learn to read. I simply stated who i thought would be my first round pick and those are the 2 best recievers in the draft. Skinsfaninok you need to just learn to read man and stopped trying to cause hate & discontent. I also say it would be a mistake to get rid of McNabb, he had his worse year with his first year with us but he had no line and how many of those losing games could have been wins, they were by less then a touchdown. If those had of been wins we would have been in the playoffs, DM will be fine, just get him someone to catch the ball and some protection.[/quote]

I love this guy!

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[quote=MoBass;792881]The Thread Title Posed the question 'What Potential 1st Rounder would you want' If AJ Green or Julio Jones are not considered 1st rounders then maybe Skinsfaninok or whatever the hell that name is, you need to learn to read. I simply stated who i thought would be my first round pick and those are the 2 best recievers in the draft. Skinsfaninok you need to just learn to read man and stopped trying to cause hate & discontent. I also say it would be a mistake to get rid of McNabb, he had his worse year with his first year with us but he had no line and how many of those losing games could have been wins, they were by less then a touchdown. If those had of been wins we would have been in the playoffs, DM will be fine, just get him someone to catch the ball and some protection.[/quote]

It is difficult to see any scenario in which McNabb returns.

And Skinsfaninok was just trying to look out for you. He was being your friend.