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I was very concerned about the predraft hype that we would try to trade up and take Gabbert of Mizzou. I think the best thing was to trade back if a player at #10 was not their such as AJ Green, Von Miller, Marcel D. I do like that we picked up a 2nd rounder since we gave a way our 4th rounder to the eagles for D-Mac who does not fit our plans. The 3rd rounder to the Saints for Brown was ok as long as we are going to resign him. If we don't then that will be another wasted pick. Who really knows what players will be great in the NFL only time will tell. I do think Kerrigan is a player who can come in a contribute to our team right away. I cannot wait to see what we do with our two 2nd rd picks. Hail.

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[quote=GMScud;797669]Plus there currently isn't a #94 on our roster, so he'll get to keep his college number if he wants to. We'll see plenty of Kerrigan jerseys this fall.[/quote]

Adam Carriker wears #94, so that won't happen.


On a different note, I think Kerrigan can be a great asset to Orakpo, and when/if we draft a good NT on day 2 (Jerrell Powe, Kendrick Ellis) this defense can really get rolling.

I'm very happy now more and more we got this guy for many reasons, Quinn had a lot of concerns (health, one year type of guy, character, tackling, and 3-4 ready) this guy was one player every analyst could agree would be a safe solid pick. And about Cam Jordan; he seemed too small to me to play 3-4 DE in the NFL, sure he played it in college, but the lineman in college aren't as big and good as the lineman in the pros. Plus we have more immediate needs at NT, OLB, OL, WR before we worry about getting a DE. And I don't think Bowers will be any good for us.

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The most interesting thing about this pick as well as some of the other guys that Smoot has mentioned as possible picks is what it says about Shanahans evolution as a coach. When I see him pass on a top QB prospect to trade back and get an OLB the main thing it tells me is this.

- 'I believe that the main reason I failed in Denver (at the end of his tenure of course) came from my inability to put together a quality defensive unit.'

I think it also means this.

- 'I have enough confidence in my ability to coach and find offensive players that I can succeed with, late round picks, cast away free agents, and maybe a few expensive free agents, but mostly vagabonds.'

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[quote=GMScud;797669]Plus there currently isn't a #94 on our roster, so he'll get to keep his college number if he wants to. We'll see plenty of Kerrigan jerseys this fall.[/quote]

How could you be so insensitive?

What does this look like to you Scud?
[IMG]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQiNtzF3Xjut33rVWghaYriK30CtKpTSFZDaUXVcPWV9VTWxspI[/IMG][IMG]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRejVynOIyqX6c8aTyASAVQ8rpRJ44NTQlqQO8Sw2OUqFVlEjtgEg[/IMG]

Look at him Scud he's on the verge of tears after seeing your post....that or he's getting ready to kill you. I can't really tell.
[IMG]http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/pics15/200/GO/GOGILOLZYZZSMMI.20060413174940.JPG[/IMG]

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So probably Kerrigan, Fletch, Riley, Rak as our starters?

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I'm ok with the pick, I don't think he'll be as good as 98 but I do see Kerrigan as a player similar to like Greg Ellis former Dallas DE/LB. He'll have a solid career imo

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Very nice pick. I was afraid they were going to do something stupid. They didnt.

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[quote=ethat001;797665]Two points:
1) Looking back, we will compare Kerrigan (and 2nd round pick) to Blaine Gabbert. Time will tell if this was a good move.
2) Is Kerrigan much better than Cam Jordan? Jordan had a lot of hype..[/quote]

Jordan may have more potential and be better suited to the 3-4 defense, but Kerrigan is more solid, a safer pick, and can contribute early and often.

Also, while regarding gabbert, while we may look back and compare the trade, the rams passed on matt ryan and nobody seems to have a problem with that anymore. As long as we get "our" quarterback, whether it be this year in dalton or mallett, or next year in a guy like Luck or Barkley, it wont matter that we utilized this draft to build for years to come.

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I like this pick and the trade down because it represents something that smart, successful teams do and the Redskins in recent years have not done. They traded back and got an extra pick rather then giving away picks. They made a sensible pick at a position of need and seem to have picked a solid player. He's a high motor guy rather then a big ego guy.

Let hope for more of the same later today!

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Very safe pick.
The trade for the additional 2nd rounder was sweet!
We may end up with a very nice draft.

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Gave it a B. Solid Pick that fills a need and got decent value at #16 (about where Kerrigan should've gone). Needs to lose some weight to play the 3-4 OLB Spot, but [B]exetremely[/B] productive, hard worker, high motor, and a good character guy. This guy is a football player and the money won't change him. Safe pick, Low Risk/High Reward.

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Likable white guy whose motor exceeds his measurables?

Watch your back, Chris Cooley.

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This pick is a perfect example of what us Redskins fans should be getting used too. They go with the guy who they know will be a football player.

I was one of many hoping for Gabbert, but this just kind of tells you that there's no more fooling around in this organization and if they don't like the quarterbacks, they won't take them.

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Gave it an A. Got a much needed high motor never stop defensive player and gained a second rounder. What's not to like? HTTR!

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[quote=GMScud;797669]Plus there currently isn't a #94 on our roster, so he'll get to keep his college number if he wants to. We'll see plenty of Kerrigan jerseys this fall.[/quote]


He will be the next white guy fan favorite after Cooley.

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[quote=IrMitchell;797744]This pick is a perfect example of what us Redskins fans should be getting used too. [B]They go with the guy who they know will be a football player.[/B]
I was one of many hoping for Gabbert, but this just kind of tells you that there's no more fooling around in this organization and if they don't like the quarterbacks, they won't take them.[/quote]

I really hope that the rest of the Skins draft proves you right on this point.

You are so right about the Kerrigan pick. The guy is a football player. We need more of those type of players.

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Trading back to get the #49 pick: A

Picking a high motor, high character player that Parcells raved about: A

But Cameron Jordan was a better overall fit, and we could have had him with the trade back: C

Overall grade: B

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[quote=Lotus;797752]Trading back to get the #49 pick: A

Picking a high motor, high character player that Parcells raved about: A

[B]But Cameron Jordan was a better overall fit, and we could have had him with the trade back: C
[/B]
Overall grade: B[/quote]

Haha... It's funny you say this because I'm probably the biggest Cal fan on this website. Cal, Mizz, and OU are my teams and I follow all the players.

I must say that Cameron Jordan is not better than Kerrigan. There's just no way he's better, and he hides behind every second play it just drove me nuts. I think he fell for a reason.

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I gave the pick a B. It's a solid, seemingly low risk, choice. Personally, I don't know much about him, but I like what I hear. Unfortunately, in most of the highlight videos I watch, it looks like he's coming unblocked on most of the plays in them. That concerns me some. However, even from watching highlights, you can see the guy goes 100 mph on every down; that, I really like!

I gave it a B because there are other players I would have liked to have taken here, but I don't hate the pick. I didn't like it at the time, but I'm warming up to it now.

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I cant wait to get a Kerrigan jersey. Not only is he from my favorite college, he is an awesome player. If you have seen my sig in awhile i said we should take kerrigan. We just picked oe pick earlier than i perdicted

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I cant wait to get a Kerrigan jersey. Not only is he from my favorite college, he is an awesome player. If you have seen my sig in awhile i said we should take kerrigan. We just picked we pick earlier than i perdicted

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;797750][B]I really hope that the rest of the Skins draft proves you right on this point. [/B]

You are so right about the Kerrigan pick. The guy is a football player. We need more of those type of players.[/quote]

Me too, but I have faith in our front office. The only thing I'm worried about is that they continue to trade back to the point where they're just looking for more bodies on day 1. Draft the BPA that fits your scheme.

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/analysis-kerrigan-trade-address-redskins-needs/2011/04/28/AFLJgMAF_story.html]NFL draft 2011 analysis: Redskins address needs with Ryan Kerrigan and trade - The Washington Post[/url]

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To be honest, didn't really know too much about Kerrigan and would have preferred a WR or OL pick (so I gave it a B). But if he pans out (Todd Mcshay says there is no way he will bust) then a great pick for the next 4-5 years.

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[quote=musicmaster45;797761]I cant wait to get a Kerrigan jersey. Not only is he from my favorite college, he is an awesome player. If you have seen my sig in awhile i said we should take kerrigan. We just picked we pick earlier than i perdicted[/quote]

Good call, it's just too bad Ponder went 29 picks too early. Hahah

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I was looking back on what I said about certain players in January. Crazy how things work out.

[quote]Future Stars (My Opinion):
Ryan Kerrigan - This guy is Clay Matthews. He out muscles his opponents, never quits, stands out in every game. Taking him at #10 will pay huge dividends to us later.
Von Miller - Beast. Has a great pass rush, but an even better ability to make a big tackle.
Prince Amukamara - If He falls we can't pass him up. Patrick Peterson is without a doubt the better corner, but Amukamara is being overlooked as the "2nd best corner". He's a future shutdown corner with ability to tackle in the box.

My targets:
#1 Blaine Gabbert
#2 Prince Amukamara
#3 Ryan Kerrigan
#4 Von Miller
#5 Jake Locker
[/quote]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/779438-post844.html[/url]

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I voted A. When I see video of Kerrigan coming around the edge I see someone with a very quick first step, he can really get off the line. Orakpo popped out on film in that manner, and look what he's done for us. I don't think Kerrigan is quite as quick as Orakpo, but still very quick, enough to beat RTs for 8 sacks in a season.

He's also stout enough to hold down the edge in the run game, 267 pounds is no cupcake.

He also takes good angles to the ballcarrier, you never see him go at the upfield side of the ballcarrier, always seems to put himself in front of the player to knock him backwards. That's a guy who just understands defense and is less concerned with the flashy hit.

Good motor, good kid. I don't see any way we'll be disappointed. We need multiple bodies who are reliable, I'm glad we shied away from high-risk high-reward types. Kerrigan is the exact opposite of that.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;797736]Very [B]safe[/B] pick.
The trade for the additional 2nd rounder was sweet!
We may end up with a very nice draft.[/quote]

Thats the key I word I was going to use. I think Quinn was much more of a risk, but of course upside could be higher...I think Cam Jordan is a better pick/player overall at 16 for us.

I was intially under the assumption Kerrigan would play DE for us, obviously after I looked at his size, there is no way he would. So again we are moving a DE to a OLB...with Orakpo I was much more comfortable because A) he was a better player B) he was a better athelete C) Sam position goes after the QB 95% time anyway, so it plays to Orakpo's strength. Kerrigan adjustment might not be as easy, especially against the run.

Im dont see a superstar, but I expect a solid player and end the end thats all you can hope for.

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[quote=Lotus;797752]Trading back to get the #49 pick: A

Picking a high motor, high character player that Parcells raved about: A

But Cameron Jordan was a better overall fit, and we could have had him with the trade back: C

Overall grade: B[/quote]Agree. I gave the Kerrigan pick itself a C, trading back, great move. If we shift to a 4-3 even better move as it maximizes the value of our current assets (I know it's not gonna happen).

The one thing I do like about the pick a bit more is in nickel/dime our front four can get after the passer. With the pick of Kerrigan, as others have said, I think it is critical to come away from the second round with Paea.

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I think its about the attitude. Like Anthony Armstrong at WR, they have a guy on defense who will plays every down like it was his last. AlsoHumble and not flashy. This sends the message that character means something again in Washington DC

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Under "Winners" on ESPN:

[I]2. Jacksonville Jaguars: The Jaguars finally get a break. For years, they were looking for the heir to David Garrard's starting job at quarterback. Thanks in part to 49ers not taking a quarterback and the Titans taking Jake Locker with the eighth pick, the Jaguars accomplished something that they might not have done until the 2012 draft -- they got their quarterback, Blaine Gabbert. Once Gabbert fell to the 10th pick, the Jaguars traded up with the Redskins to get him. The cost was a second-round pick. Had they tried to move up from the second round to get a quarterback, they might have had to sacrifice a first-rounder in 2012. Drafting at 16 originally, the Jags weren't in a good spot to get one of the top-rated quarterbacks. Getting Gabbart was like hitting the lottery, particularly in a division that has elite quarterbacks Peyton Manning and Matt Schaub.[/I]

I swear if Gabbert becomes a super star, I will be so pissed. Even if Kerrigan is a Pro Bowler it will not trump a franchise QB. I just feel like this will come back to bite us.

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I think Kerrigan may wear 91

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[quote=Schneed10;797770]I voted A. When I see video of Kerrigan coming around the edge I see someone with a very quick first step, he can really get off the line. Orakpo popped out on film in that manner, and look what he's done for us. I don't think Kerrigan is quite as quick as Orakpo, but still very quick, enough to beat RTs for 8 sacks in a season.

He's also stout enough to hold down the edge in the run game, 267 pounds is no cupcake.

He also takes good angles to the ballcarrier, you never see him go at the upfield side of the ballcarrier, always seems to put himself in front of the player to knock him backwards. That's a guy who just understands defense and is less concerned with the flashy hit.

Good motor, good kid. I don't see any way we'll be disappointed. We need multiple bodies who are reliable, I'm glad we shied away from high-risk high-reward types. Kerrigan is the exact opposite of that.[/quote]

Good post....I too like the pattern that's being established.

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[quote=BrudLee;797739]Likable white guy whose motor exceeds his measurables?

Watch your back, Chris Cooley.[/quote]

[url=http://www.sportsbuzz.com/buzz/12437]SportsBUZZ: Chris Cooley: Ryan[/url]

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[quote=Schneed10;797770]I voted A. When I see video of Kerrigan coming around the edge I see someone with a very quick first step, he can really get off the line. Orakpo popped out on film in that manner, and look what he's done for us. I don't think Kerrigan is quite as quick as Orakpo, but still very quick, enough to beat RTs for 8 sacks in a season.

He's also stout enough to hold down the edge in the run game, 267 pounds is no cupcake.

He also takes good angles to the ballcarrier, you never see him go at the upfield side of the ballcarrier, always seems to put himself in front of the player to knock him backwards. That's a guy who just understands defense and is less concerned with the flashy hit.

Good motor, good kid. I don't see any way we'll be disappointed. We need multiple bodies who are reliable, I'm glad we shied away from high-risk high-reward types. Kerrigan is the exact opposite of that.[/quote]

[url=http://www.hailredskins.com/?p=898]Meet Ryan Kerrigan | hailRedskins.com[/url]

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[quote=cpayne5;797798][url=http://www.sportsbuzz.com/buzz/12437]SportsBUZZ: Chris Cooley: Ryan[/url][/quote]

In addition....take a peek at what a few of his new teammates have to say about his being selected.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/redskins-teammates-react-to-the-ryan-kerrigan-pick/2011/04/28/AFTPxy9E_blog.html]Redskins teammates react to the Ryan Kerrigan pick - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post[/url]

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[quote=Longtimefan;797809]In addition....take a peek at what a few of his new teammates have to say about his being selected.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/redskins-teammates-react-to-the-ryan-kerrigan-pick/2011/04/28/AFTPxy9E_blog.html]Redskins teammates react to the Ryan Kerrigan pick - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post[/url][/quote]

That is good to hear from the vets

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[B]London Fletcher[/B]: Don’t know much about Ryan Kerrigan,seems talented with high motor & relentless effort. Can’t wait 4 him 2 buy me breakfast sandwiches! welcome to the Redskins! Let’s get it!
Great Pick AND the 2nd rounder
Can't wait for #59 to get started with him......[B]A[/B]

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Just watched some Kerrigan highlights. I love the way this guy plays the game! Shirt out, making plays all over the field, TFL's, forcing fumbles - and he hits [U]hard[/U]. I think we're going to love the guy.

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F - I think Shanny made a big mistake in passing on Gabbert and picking an undersized defensive end in hopes of converting him to an outside linebacker. There are already at least two failed attempts on the current roster of converting defensive ends to linebacker. Since Shanny passed on a quarterback, I would rather seen him get a shutdown cornerback, Prince Amukamara. The Giants got him and the Skins are going to pay twice a year.