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[quote=skinsfaninok;797814]True but he's worth a 2Nd[/quote]

No he isn't! Not with a bad knee. A 2nd rounder is too high of a draft pick to take that risk with - again.

Malcolm Kelly, who was drafted in the 2nd Round, has caused us quite enough frustration with his bad knees.

I hope we're done with risky draft picks in at least the first two rounds.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;797814]True but he's worth a 2Nd[/quote]

Bowers has a bone-on-bone knee problem. That is about as bad as it gets. Most likely he will have a short career and it is possible that he never sees an NFL regular season playing field.

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Really? He took Tatum Bell at 41 in 2004.

[quote=Redskin Warrior;797835]I like it but Shanny wouldn't take a RB that early.[/quote]

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[quote=EEich;797845]Really? He took Tatum Bell at 41 in 2004.[/quote]

But he regretted that pick after Bell stole his luggage. :silly:

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You guys r just giving up on this kid ? He was projected as the number 1 pick.. What if he stays healthy for 4-5 years? Just saying

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Not really a prediction more just discussion

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ryan-mallett-vows-to-reward-whatever-team-is-smart-enough-to-pick-me/]Ryan Mallett vows to reward “whatever team is smart enough to pick me” | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;797849]You guys r just giving up on this kid ? He was projected as the number 1 pick.. What if he stays healthy for 4-5 years? Just saying[/quote]

There's the rub. If you get 4 years out of him then he might be worth a later round flier. But if he is never going to see the field then they might as well draft me.

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Bell must have brought back the luggage when he re-signed with Denver in 2008 after his stint in Detroit.

[quote=Lotus;797846]But he regretted that pick after Bell stole his luggage. :silly:[/quote]

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That's what free agency is for[quote=skinsfaninok;797849]You guys r just giving up on this kid ? He was projected as the number 1 pick.. What if he stays healthy for 4-5 years? Just saying[/quote]

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#41 - Dalton

#49 - options (in order): Wisniewski (C), B. Harris (CB), R. Williams (RB), Paea (NT), Hankerson (WR)

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[quote=NC_Skins;797810]Stephen Paea DT
Stefen Wisniewski C


I'd love to have both of those guys. Not sure about you guys, but I'm about sick and tired seeing Rabach get his shit pushed in on a regular basis.[/quote]

I'd love that scenario. I'm not set on getting a QB but if Dalton is there I say we take him. I'd be ecstatic to replace Rabach!

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Won't be upset if we don't pick up a center; would like to see Montgomery and Lichtensteiger have a chance to compete.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;797849]You guys r just giving up on this kid ? He was projected as the number 1 pick.. What if he stays healthy for 4-5 years? Just saying[/quote]

You'd really be happy with a 4-5 year career?

With as many needs as we have, I don't think we can gamble on a guy with a possibly significant medical concern.

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I would love to see a guard or even a tackle (not sure if there are any good ones left) with our first second round pick. Other then that whatever Bruce and Mike want to do is fine with me.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;797742]Not a prediction but my hope:

41. Paea
49. Wisniewski

Adding three good "blue collar" linemen in the first two rounds would be a dream come true for me. That's the way to build a team![/quote]

Exactly who I would like as well

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[quote=Mattyk;797859]You'd really be happy with a 4-5 year career?

With as many needs as we have, I don't think we can gamble on a guy with a possibly significant medical concern.[/quote]

It's a shame for Bowers. At one point McShay had him as the #1 overall prospect. That knee injury must be pretty damn serious for this kind of free fall.

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IF Paea is there at 41, I'd love it if we snagged him. As far as the 49th pick, I'd be just fine with Kaepernick or Dalton.

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Not that it means anything as far as how he plays on the field but did anyone see the sports science with Kaepernick? He made a pretty impressive throw off his back foot with people in his face.

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[quote=Lotus;797756]41: Dalton
49: Paea[/quote]

That would be really nice.

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Who is the best Nose Tackle out there? Would he be a reach at either of our 2nd round draft picks?

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[quote=JoeRedskin;797897]Who is the best Nose Tackle out there? Would he be a reach at either of our 2nd round draft picks?[/quote]

Paea is the best NT left. I like him. I would draft him before I drafted Wisniewski. But, I think he is gone by 41.

[quote=Jontrem;797892]Not that it means anything as far as how he plays on the field but did anyone see the sports science with Kaepernick? He made a pretty impressive throw off his back foot with people in his face.[/quote]

I've only been saying this for months now. All of you guys that would rather have Mallet over Kaepernick or Dalton are stupid (but in a nice kind of way?).

Here is what is going to happen:

41: Wisniewski

49: Trade down later into the second

#?: Colin Kaepernick

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[quote=Jontrem;797892]Not that it means anything as far as how he plays on the field but did anyone see the sports science with Kaepernick? He made a pretty impressive throw off his back foot with people in his face.[/quote]

Kaepernick has every single physical tool you'd want. Monster arm, he's 6'5, mobile...

I'm a big fan of Kaepernick, and I hope we draft him.

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[quote=SkinzWin;797901]Paea is the best NT left. I like him. I would draft him before I drafted Wisniewski. But, I think he is gone by 41.



I've only been saying this for months now. All of you guys that would rather have Mallet over Kaepernick or Dalton are stupid (but in a nice kind of way?).

Here is what is going to happen:

41: Wisniewski

49: Trade down later into the second

#?: Colin Kaepernick[/quote]


How confident are you that we will be able to find a partner to trade with? I would just take Kaepernick at 49 if he is still available.

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And he's, by all accounts, a really quality guy. Quite the project though

And if we take him and he's successful, I think I owe Trevor Matich lunch...and that's going to render me broke

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[quote=GMScud;797902]Kaepernick has every single physical tool you'd want. Monster arm, he's 6'5, mobile...

I'm a big fan of Kaepernick, and I hope we draft him.[/quote]

Any chance he could be a Josh Freeman type of guy? Smaller school, big kid, good arm, sort of under the radar through most of the draft process. That would be awesome.

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[quote=Jontrem;797907]How confident are you that we will be able to find a partner to trade with? I would just take Kaepernick at 49 if he is still available.[/quote]

I would too but I think there will be teams that want to trade up to get someone they have their hearts set on. If not, I would love taking Kaep at 49. I just don't want Mallet. I think he will be a mistake. Kaep or Dalton will be much better.

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Kaepernick is the last QB in this entire draft that I wanted so it only makes sense that he will be a Redskin tonight...

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Mallet has way too much Ryan Leaf in him to make him worth drafting. Now maybe he matures and if he does he probably is going to be very good with that cannon of an arm, but giving an immature kid right out of college all that money is a recipe for disaster.

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I wouldn't mind picking up Paea, Wisniewski and trading a pick next year to Carolina for Claussen. He can't be worse than Dalton, Kapernick or Mallett.

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Well, as to Mallet and "all that money" - yes. as a rookie he gets something you or I would consider obscene BUT relative to others in his professional peer group - not so much. At this point, regardless of where he is drafted, he is not going to be coming in as the "savior" but rather "the project". If we get Paea at 41 (crossing fingers after reading up on him - seems just what we need), and Mallet is in at 49, I wouldn't mind taking a shot at him.

Right now, I just want to get the best run stuffing NT left on the board with one of our two 2nd's.

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[quote=Jontrem;797917]Mallet has way too much Ryan Leaf in him to make him worth drafting. Now maybe he matures and if he does he probably is going to be very good with that cannon of an arm, but giving an immature kid right out of college all that money [B]is a recipe for disaster.[/B][/quote]

white flour
nitric acid
glycerin

Now that is a recipe for disaster. :cheeky-sm

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;797919]I wouldn't mind picking up Paea, Wisniewski and trading a pick next year to Carolina for Claussen. He can't be worse than Dalton, Kapernick or Mallett.[/quote]

He is worse than the first two IMO. I think Paea will be gone by 41 but he would be a nice pick up.

SS, who is Matich? I think you owe me lunch too. I've been pushing for Kaepernick since day 1. I'm cheap though. I'll be happy just going to subway. Eat fresh! lol

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[quote=GMScud;797889]It's a shame for Bowers. At one point McShay had him as the #1 overall prospect. That knee injury must be pretty damn serious for this kind of free fall.[/quote]

I agree. Think about this, Willis McGahee's knee was torn to shreds in the National Championship game, but the Bills still drafted him in the middle of the first. It tells me that this guy's knee issues must have been very serious to send a talent like him free falling.

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[quote=celts32;797916]Kaepernick is the last QB in this entire draft that I wanted so it only makes sense that he will be a Redskin tonight...[/quote]

That makes two of us

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[quote=celts32;797916]Kaepernick is the last QB in this entire draft that I wanted so it only makes sense that he will be a Redskin tonight...[/quote]

Mallett is on the bottom of my list. I'll be a little angry if we get him.

I'd rather see Dalton, Stanzi, heck even Tyrod Taylor over the pothead who can't run.

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[quote=SkinzWin;797901][B]Paea is the best NT left. [/B] I like him. I would draft him before I drafted Wisniewski. But, I think he is gone by 41.



I've only been saying this for months now. All of you guys that would rather have Mallet over Kaepernick or Dalton are stupid (but in a nice kind of way?).

Here is what is going to happen:

41: Wisniewski

49: Trade down later into the second

#?: Colin Kaepernick[/quote]

Agree. Paea might end up being the best NT in the whole draft. I hope we have him in our trick-or-treat bag tonight.

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[quote=SkinzWin;797928]He is worse than the first two IMO. I think Paea will be gone by 41 but he would be a nice pick up.

SS, who is Matich? I think you owe me lunch too. I've been pushing for Kaepernick since day 1. I'm cheap though. I'll be happy just going to subway. Eat fresh! lol[/quote]

I don't know if he'll be gone by 41 but I'm thinking gone by 49 is a definite possibility

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[quote=Lotus;797756]41: Dalton
49: Paea[/quote]

I concur.

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[quote=Mattyk;797859]You'd really be happy with a 4-5 year career?

With as many needs as we have, I don't think we can gamble on a guy with a possibly significant medical concern.[/quote]

Agreed, total luxury pick. if i'm New England, i'm all over him though.

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[quote=Lotus;797935]Agree. Paea might end up being the best NT in the whole draft. I hope we have him in our trick-or-treat bag tonight.[/quote]

NE just might pick him at 33rd.