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SmootSmack 06-09-2011 08:54 AM

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[quote=freddyg12;806515]I think this article came out after Haslett did a radio interview. Sure, he repeated some stuff he'd said earlier, but it was a recent interview.[/quote]

Yup...that said, I wish there some legitimate new news

Slingin Sammy 33 06-09-2011 08:56 AM

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[quote=wilsowilso;806500]Eventually the POS will start to consider his legacy. [/quote]A PoS doesn't care about legacy, only self-interest (getting paid). Unfortunately, we still need to pay AH upwards of 5M/yr. as long as he does the very bare minimum (which includes in-game naps).

I would love to ruin AH, but with his mind-set we don't have the leverage to do it. He will continue to be a major distraction and a locker room cancer, forcing coaches/players, etc. to address his nonsense rather than focusing on building a play-off caliber team.

Like Matty said, get whatever we can for him (even if it's below market value) and trade him to an NFL wasteland.

skinsfan69 06-09-2011 10:44 AM

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[quote=wilsowilso;806466][B]You all realize that the Skins are going to suck donkey whenever football resumes. Don't you?[/B]

I say keep the mega douche bag and make him suffer. We don't need to worry about the last roster spot anyways and we can officially put all kinds of fear into any free agents that are thinking about taking the money and running.

Let him rot until he comes to the realization that he can't get what he wants and begs to get out no matter what our terms.[/quote]

I think 80% of the people here will disagree with you but I'm not one of them. Let him sit on a bad team and rot on the bench. If he gives back some $ then he can leave. He's probably going to get himself in trouble anyway and get suspended, like he did the last few weeks of the season.

skinsfan69 06-09-2011 10:46 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;806475]Yeah make him suffer by paying him to sit on the bench and do nothing. :doh:

[B]I'm sure if you were to ask Phillip Daniel or London Fletcher[/B], they would ask for this guy to be shipped out of DC ASAP.[/quote]

Honestly... who cares what they think? Daniels should've been cut 3 years ago. Fletch is a great leader, team guy and is a solid player, but I just don't understand why we're keeping him at this point.

Ruhskins 06-09-2011 11:01 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;806538]Honestly... who cares what they think? Daniels should've been cut 3 years ago. Fletch is a great leader, team guy and is a solid player, but I just don't understand why we're keeping him at this point.[/quote]

Well Fletcher is the leader of this team, and I think Daniels is a respected veteran. My point had nothing to do with their abilities as players, but more of them being the voice of the team. I could have easily thrown Cooley's name in my post. Fans can sit here and be idealistic about wanting for Haynesworth to rot on the bench, be taught a lesson, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I'm sure players are sick of talking to the media about it (which will continue to happen until he is gone) and having a player being paid to do nothing.

Everyone just needs to get over this guy and move on.

SirClintonPortis 06-09-2011 12:56 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;806545]Well Fletcher is the leader of this team, and I think Daniels is a respected veteran. My point had nothing to do with their abilities as players, but more of them being the voice of the team. I could have easily thrown Cooley's name in my post. Fans can sit here and be idealistic about wanting for Haynesworth to rot on the bench, be taught a lesson, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I'm sure players are sick of talking to the media about it (which will continue to happen until he is gone) and having a player being paid to do nothing.

Everyone just needs to get over this guy and move on.[/quote]

Basically, Haynesworth the employee being paid $100/hr and doing nothing while a lot of other guys are doing work and being paid $30/hr. Everyone ****ing hates him, from management(Haslett and Shanahan) down to his fellow employees. And yet fans care more about their own personal vendettas than their football team. The 3-4 is NOT going away, and thus Haynesworth will soon be more worthless than a pick for Mr. Irrelevant. Give him a real punishment: being out of football. No 3-4 team is going to want him. Schwartz has no need for him. Teams like the Colts don't want him because he's so ****ing selfish. He's like the Jeff George of DTs.

hail_2_da_skins 06-09-2011 01:17 PM

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In any other business, the guy would be fired if he refused to follow management's instructions. That's called insubordination. The team should have the right to release a guy like this and have the ability to fine the player for conduct detrimental to the team. This seems to be a problem for most of the team sports. I wish the Redskins could just release Fat Albert. He is cancer on this team. I think he is a bigger problem than the Donovan McNabb fiasco.

hail_2_da_skins 06-09-2011 01:25 PM

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What has Fat Albert been doing during the lockout? Has he participated in player workouts? Has he been working out independently? Is he out of shape and gaining weight?

Hey, hey, hey ...

KI Skins Fan 06-09-2011 07:20 PM

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If the Skins, anticipating that Haynesworth will be suspended by the NFL once a labor agreement is reached, would rather punish him than than to give him what he wants by cutting him at this time, that's fine by me. It serves him right.

If they plan to trade him to Timbuktu for next to nothing in return, that is also fine by me.

It is not fine by me if their plans include allowing him to ever again set foot in the Redskins' locker room. First of all, he's practically worthless to them in their 3-4 Defense because he refuses to play it, so there is no reason to waste a roster spot on him. Secondly, since the Redskins are fast becoming a younger team, I think the coaches should try to avoid the possibility that contact with Haynesworth might pollute the minds of their young players.

freddyg12 06-10-2011 08:50 AM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;806607]If the Skins, anticipating that Haynesworth will be suspended by the NFL once a labor agreement is reached, would rather punish him than than to give him what he wants by cutting him at this time, that's fine by me. It serves him right.

If they plan to trade him to Timbuktu for next to nothing in return, that is also fine by me.

[B]It is not fine by me if their plans include allowing him to ever again set foot in the Redskins' locker room[/B]. First of all, he's practically worthless to them in their 3-4 Defense because he refuses to play it, so there is no reason to waste a roster spot on him. Secondly, since the Redskins are fast becoming a younger team, I think the coaches should try to avoid the possibility that contact with Haynesworth might pollute the minds of their young players.[/quote]

Maybe they'll work out a deal w/his agent; we won't fine him if he doesn't report provided that you can find a suitable trading partner w/in x days.

Lotus 06-10-2011 11:57 AM

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Vonnie Holliday adds to the criticism of AH.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20110610_teammate_says_lot_of_stuff_you_hear_about_haynesworth_is_true]Teammate says lot of stuff you hear about Haynesworth is true - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

SmootSmack 06-10-2011 12:07 PM

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Yeah he told us a lot of that one day when he came to visit last winter. He didn't seem like a fan at all

CrustyRedskin 06-10-2011 12:26 PM

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"At one point last year, the 29-year-old was juggling as many four court-related matters, including lawsuits from a bank, an exotic dancer, a man injured in an automobile accident and complaints from his ex-wife that he wasn't paying her health insurance or their children's bills." Quote

This is debaggery at its highest level!!!!!!!!!!!!! And disrespectfull in meetings, bring a lawsuit against this bag of turds for breech of being a class human being.

wilsowilso 06-10-2011 09:54 PM

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Let's put it this way.

Anyone who thinks the Skins are just going to release this guy and "cut their losses" is out to lunch.

Management has obviously taken great consideration it determining what they are going to do with with this POS. They have considered all options very carefully.

I guarantee you they will not just release him and let him win.

I will bet money on it.

53Fan 06-10-2011 10:40 PM

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I agree that keeping him would waste a roster spot...but...it would sure send a message about the changes being made by this organization. No more taking the money and laying down in Washington. It's not that easy anymore. The reputation of this team among players in the NFL is that it's a place to go to get paid and that's pretty f'ed up.

musicmaster45 06-11-2011 10:35 AM

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I think we will hold on to him through training camp looking for a trade and if we cant find one then i think we will release him.

SBXVII 06-11-2011 11:01 AM

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;806565]What has Fat Albert been doing during the lockout? Has he participated in player workouts? Has he been working out independently? Is he out of shape and gaining weight?

Hey, hey, hey ...[/quote]

LOL, no he's having to juggle all his indiscretions and court dates. lol. When would he fit OTA's in?

Ruhskins 06-11-2011 08:47 PM

[QUOTE=53Fan;806783]I agree that keeping him would waste a roster spot...but...it would sure send a message about the changes being made by this organization. No more taking the money and laying down in Washington. It's not that easy anymore. The reputation of this team among players in the NFL is that it's a place to go to get paid and that's pretty f'ed up.[/QUOTE]

There will always be players like Hayneswoth in the NFL. The biggest lesson to be learned here is by the team; they should never put themselves in this position by signing a player like him. And the culture within the team should be "you either get with the plan or GTFO".

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NLC1054 06-12-2011 12:21 AM

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All this stuff about letting him get his way...so what?

Cut him, and let him be some other team's problem. You really think Philly's gonna want him? Okay, fine, let Philly take him. Let's see if JUAN FRIGGIN' CASTILLO, the former offensive line coach turned random ass defensive coordinator can contain Haynesworth.

The fact of the matter is, no one is going to want him. Period. And Haynesworth is so loco he's not going to settle for a cheap deal. Keeping him on the roster means we keep a player we could actually use off the roster.

And it just becomes another distraction. Every day Haynesworth is on the team is another day we have to hear about him, and players and coaches have to talk about him. Sportscenter and NFL Total Access would not shut up about it. Every other story would be "Has Mike Shanahan gone to far with Albert Haynesworth".

He'd become a sympathy case in some warped way.

Just cut him. If some teams wants to drop a truckload of money on him, let them deal with the ensuing crap storm. Haynesworth doesn't care. He doesn't want to play a 3-4. He doesn't want to play in a 4-3. He's said it in interviews; what he loved about Tennessee is that his DC allegedly let him do what he want.

"He'd come in with these intricate plays draw up and all these ideas, but at the end of the day he'd just let me play," He says in a radio interview. "Just let me play. Just let me do whatever I want to do. I'm a selfish jerk, I want to just play and do what I want to."

Well let his sorry ass "do what he wants" for some other team. Take some other teams money. Let's free up some cap space, buy a cappachino machine or something important.

53Fan 06-12-2011 03:53 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;806824][B]There will always be players like Hayneswoth in the NFL.[/B] The biggest lesson to be learned here is by the team; they should never put themselves in this position by signing a player like him. And the culture within the team should be "you either get with the plan or GTFO".

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AH can dominate games when he feels like it and we certainly weren't the only team going after him. If I remember correctly his agents phone was ringing off the hook 1 second after midnight when he became eligible. Would he have laid down if the Giants had signed him? I really don't know. Switching to the 3-4 didn't help but the Redskins also have a reputation for overpaying a player, getting screwed, then releasing him to sign with any team he wants. Unless I'm mistaken isn't that what happened with Archuletta, Lloyd, etc.? I didn't want him here to begin with because this is [B]exactly[/B] what I was afraid would happen. You can check my posts before we signed him. I was impressed with his talent and hoped for the best when he got here but absolutely do not want him on this team. I understand your point and agree with you Ruhskins, but if the Redskins decide to keep him and make his life miserable after giving him millions of dollars based on his agreement to go along with the changing defense, then AH breaking that same agreement that got him millions of their dollars...well I can understand their point too. We'll continue to sign FA's. Some will pan out some won't. It just seems some come here with the idea of getting paid, doing whatever they want, then getting released to sign somewhere else. No matter how good a player is, if that's their mindset based on the reputation the Redskins have among players in the league, a reputation we've[B] earned[/B], then why will it stop? Isn't releasing him exactly what he wants? Go to the Redskins and take the money and run. It's frustrating as hell and until the owners and players come to an agreement I probably just want to punish the SOB. No matter how it goes, hopefully we have a GM in Bruce Allen that will structure contracts in a way this kind of BS will no longer happen.

KI Skins Fan 06-12-2011 10:31 AM

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[quote=musicmaster45;806799]I think we will hold on to him through training camp looking for a trade and if we cant find one then i think we will release him.[/quote]

Training camp? Oh, no! This team doesn't need another AH training camp fiasco. The next one would be even worse than the first one. This man will not be in good enough physical shape for training camp. Allowing him to be seen in training camp by other teams would probably reduce his trade value to zero, if it's not there already.

Beyond that, [U]I think that it would be a mistake to ever again allow AH to attend any team activity.[/U]

juskins 06-12-2011 02:13 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;806830]Training camp? Oh, no! This team doesn't need another AH training camp fiasco. The next one would be even worse than the first one. This man will not be in good enough physical shape for training camp. Allowing him to be seen in training camp by other teams would probably reduce his trade value to zero, if it's not there already.

Beyond that, [U]I think that it would be a mistake to ever again allow AH to attend any team activity.[/U][/quote]


I agree totally. The best thing for the Skins to do is suspend Albert from the team and take him before the Special Masters Office of the NFL to address the non-performance of a contract signed by Albert.

He is taking up a roster spot and if another team wants him they would have to wait until the above hearing would produce a verdict.

Using him as an example is getting tired and its time to move on.

skinsfan69 06-12-2011 05:35 PM

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[quote=53Fan;806783]I agree that keeping him would waste a roster spot...but...it would sure send a message about the changes being made by this organization. No more taking the money and laying down in Washington. It's not that easy anymore. The reputation of this team among players in the NFL is that it's a place to go to get paid and that's pretty f'ed up.[/quote]

Exactly!

Longtimefan 06-12-2011 11:27 PM

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Rich Tandler:
CSNWashington.com


*Haynesworth may not leave quickly and quietly. After what Jim Haslett had to say about Albert Haynesworth not wanting to do anything, it would appear that the free agent bust has lost his last possible supporter in the organization. But don’t look for the Redskins to release him as soon as the NFL lockout ends as some expect (and as most are hoping). Mike Shanahan does not want to set a precedent that bad behavior will get you the freedom to go out and cut a free agent deal with a seven-figure bonus check. And he won’t dump him for a late draft pick after paying him all that money. There is a chance there will be a clean break that takes place soon after transactions are allowed but don’t be surprised if there is further drama when the lockout is lifted. [unq\

KI Skins Fan 06-13-2011 07:38 AM

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[quote=juskins;806836]I agree totally. [B]The best thing for the Skins to do is suspend Albert from the team and take him before the Special Masters Office of the NFL to address the non-performance of a contract signed by Albert.[/B]

He is taking up a roster spot and if another team wants him they would have to wait until the above hearing would produce a verdict.

Using him as an example is getting tired and its time to move on.[/quote]

I didn't know that such recourse was available to the Redskins. Why not use it, then? After all, he's useless to them and I'm pretty sure his contract doesn't state that he will only play on 3rd down in a 3-4 defense and then only if he is allowed to freelance.

Skins4L 06-13-2011 08:36 AM

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I swear Fat Als half dumb...

He's probally such a weird locker room guy too..

CUT THIS BUM.

Ruhskins 06-13-2011 08:59 AM

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[quote=Longtimefan;806844]Rich Tandler:
CSNWashington.com


*Haynesworth may not leave quickly and quietly. After what Jim Haslett had to say about Albert Haynesworth not wanting to do anything, it would appear that the free agent bust has lost his last possible supporter in the organization. But don’t look for the Redskins to release him as soon as the NFL lockout ends as some expect (and as most are hoping). [B]Mike Shanahan does not want to set a precedent that bad behavior will get you the freedom[/B] to go out and cut a free agent deal with a seven-figure bonus check. And he won’t dump him for a late draft pick after paying him all that money. There is a chance there will be a clean break that takes place soon after transactions are allowed but don’t be surprised if there is further drama when the lockout is lifted.[/quote]

The longer that Albert Haynesworth is on the roster, the longer that the media will continue to remind everyone of the dysfunction that is this team. In the end, I see this as a way for the team to not admit that they made a mistake. They'd rather continue this drama and media circus rather than cutting their losses, admitting their mistake, and moving on from this error.

And it appears to be working, since we have fans clamoring for the team to "discipline Haynesworth" and "letting him rot on the bench" and blah blah blah blah. As I said before, if the team wants to change the culture, it needs to start by admitting their mistakes and moving on from them.

Skins4L 06-13-2011 09:17 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;806857]The longer that Albert Haynesworth is on the roster, the longer that the media will continue to remind everyone of the dysfunction that is this team. In the end, I see this as a way for the team to not admit that they made a mistake. They'd rather continue this drama and media circus rather than cutting their losses, admitting their mistake, and moving on from this error.

And it appears to be working, since we have fans clamoring for the team to "discipline Haynesworth" and "letting him rot on the bench" and blah blah blah blah. As I said before, if the team wants to change the culture, it needs to start by admitting their mistakes and moving on from them.[/quote]

*deep sigh*
We fd up.. we fd up bad.
I can't believe we all wanted this guy too I still remember the threads myself included.
Hell never be able to play good enough to stop the media either.

skinsfan69 06-13-2011 10:23 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;806857]The longer that Albert Haynesworth is on the roster, the longer that the media will continue to remind everyone of the dysfunction that is this team. In the end, I see this as a way for the team to not admit that they made a mistake. They'd rather continue this drama and media circus rather than cutting their losses, admitting their mistake, and moving on from this error.

And it appears to be working, since we have fans clamoring for the team to "discipline Haynesworth" and "letting him rot on the bench" and blah blah blah blah. As I said before, if the team wants to change the culture, it needs to start by admitting their mistakes and moving on from them.[/quote]

Why are you so worried about the media asking the players about AH? It's not a big a deal as you think it is. It's not like it has an outcome on the games. If the players let this effect their performance then they're probably not someone we want anyway.

Monkeydad 06-13-2011 12:41 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;806857]The longer that Albert Haynesworth is on the roster, the longer that the media will continue to remind everyone of the dysfunction that is this team. In the end, I see this as a way for the team to not admit that they made a mistake. They'd rather continue this drama and media circus rather than cutting their losses, admitting their mistake, and moving on from this error.

And it appears to be working, since we have fans clamoring for the team to "discipline Haynesworth" and "letting him rot on the bench" and blah blah blah blah. As I said before, if the team wants to change the culture, it needs to start by admitting their mistakes and moving on from them.[/quote]

Screw the media. They'll be on us no matter what we do, it's always been that way, at least since Dan Snyder became the owner. They'll still rehash their same worn out lines about Snyder interfering and us blindly spending on everything that walks, even though those things aren't true anymore. Snyder has actually become the owner he should be, letting real football guys make the decisions. Haynesworth is a pre-Allen/Shanahan mess and it will be over soon enough. Then, they'll go back to bashing us for something else and if desperate for a real story, say we have a racost name and stir that political pot again.

If Haynesworth had even tried and played up to his actual talent level, no one would be complaining about his ridiculously-high contract or saying we're "disfunctional". The team can not be bashed much for this mess, other than taking a risk. Albert was a Pro-Bowl player, one of the best D-linemen in the game...and simply laid down and stopped trying. In the few instances he did try last year (Chicago game for example), he showed his dominance and what we paid for, but the majority of his time here, he's been a selfish, lazy headcase with legal issues to boot.

Yes I want him gone, but it has absolutely nothing about the media's opinion. If we strive to please them, we'll fail miserably and wreck the team on top of that. The media will never give us credit, let alone love us.

Ruhskins 06-13-2011 01:37 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;806867]Why are you so worried about the media asking the players about AH? It's not a big a deal as you think it is. It's not like it has an outcome on the games. If the players let this effect their performance then they're probably not someone we want anyway.[/quote]

I am not worry about the media, but why are you so worry about having "Haynesworth learn his lesson?" Don't tell me that it is about money, because the Redskins have lost money like that before many times over . And don't give me the "change of culture" BS, because teams like the Bengals insist on keeping malcontents, and it hasn't gotten them anywhere. And unless you have recently seen articles about players not caring about this issue, I don't know how you are "sure" that the players on the team are okay with this circus continuing.

Please explain to me WHY is it more important to keep this guy on the team and "teach him his lesson", rather than moving on and continue to build the team? Are people's feelings hurt because this guy lied to the team? On the one hand you say players should suck it up and not care about this locker room problem, but on the other hand many fans and the team are keeping a grudge and want to see this guy "destroyed"? Where's the obsession?

Part of rebuilding is moving on from the mistakes made in the past. I don't get the obsession on keeping this issue alive.

Ruhskins 06-13-2011 01:41 PM

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[quote=Monkeydad;806874][B]Yes I want him gone[/B], but it has absolutely nothing about the media's opinion. If we strive to please them, we'll fail miserably and wreck the team on top of that. The media will never give us credit, let alone love us.[/quote]

If you want him gone I have no argument against you. I just don't understand people's obsession with keeping the guy on the team. I have yet to read an argument that makes sense. Sadly, it seems that the NFL hasn't cared much about Haynesworth's issues (surprisingly) and suspended him. Unless that happen, he's just going to sit on the bench utilizing a roster spot and getting paid. Hell, that already happened last season.

Defensewins 06-13-2011 02:06 PM

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Great points Ruhskins.
It is time to move on. I couldn't care less what the media or rest of the country thinks of the Redskins or DS. Who cares? I don't.
Just win. Winning cures all....or at least field a competitive team that improves each year and is fun to watch.
I really think the delay in getting rid of him has more to do with trying to control or prevent AH from going to a team in our division like Philly. That would be a bad thing. I think a Tennessee deal would be ideal.

KI Skins Fan 06-13-2011 02:13 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;806879]If you want him gone I have no argument against you. I just don't understand people's obsession with keeping the guy on the team. I have yet to read an argument that makes sense. Sadly, it seems that the NFL hasn't cared much about Haynesworth's issues (surprisingly) and suspended him. [B]Unless that happen, he's just going to sit on the bench utilizing a roster spot and getting paid. Hell, that already happened last season[/B][B].[/B][/quote]

Let's hope that doesn't happen again this season. My greatest concern about having AH around is that we will be adding 12 draftees plus any UDFA's (and probably some veteran FA's) to the squad by training camp and I don't want him to be a bad example to impressionable young players. I hope that Redskins management will trade or release him by then.

SmootSmack 06-13-2011 02:20 PM

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[quote=Defensewins;806880]Great points Ruhskins.
It is time to move on. I couldn't care less what the media or rest of the country thinks of the Redskins or DS. Who cares? I don't.
Just win. Winning cures all....or at least field a competitive team that improves each year and is fun to watch.
[B]I really think the delay in getting rid of him has more to do with trying to control or prevent AH from going to a team in our division like Philly.[/B] That would be a bad thing. I think a Tennessee deal would be ideal.[/quote]

Preach

And how could the league suspend him right now anyway?

mlmpetert 06-13-2011 02:21 PM

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Its not about teaching him a lesson, its about making AH an example and [I]using[/I] him to teach the team a lesson. I don’t think Shanahan really cares about the money Danny spent on AH, I think its more about the laziness and unwilliness that AH shows, the fact that he took the bonus check (instead of finding a trade partner) then not showing up to minicamp, then showing up out of shape to mandatory camp, then refusing to play NT, and then pretty much refusing to play at all. Sure AH stole money from Danny (who wouldn’t), but he also betrayed Shanahan. Now AH is the main subject in teaching The Redskins (the players) a lesson. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I dont really care one way or another if we keep him or not but if I was forced to choose i think keeping him is probably the better option. And im pretty much cool with whatever Shanahan decides to do with him, im guessing he has a better idea with what resonates with a football team then me. And like Shanahan and Allen probably feel I honestly don’t think it’s a big deal or distraction for the team. Its probably awkward for the guy that has his locker right next to AH’s but that’s about it. Because of AH’s past play and massive contract hes a high profile dude and a lot of people are going to take notice when he f’s up. When a high profile crime is committed most DA’s try to send a message by really sticking it to the bad guy. This is pretty much the same thing. The media may boo-hoo whats going on or make it out to be a big deal, but so what. The Redskins happen to be one of the most dysfunctional teams in the country. Until we consistently win it doesn’t matter what the media thinks of us or portrays us as, because lets face it…… we’re irrelevant. [/FONT][/COLOR]

KI Skins Fan 06-13-2011 02:31 PM

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[quote=mlmpetert;806883]Its not about teaching him a lesson, its about making AH an example and [I]using[/I] him to teach the team a lesson.[/quote]

Which players need to be taught a lesson?

Defensewins 06-13-2011 02:40 PM

Re: Redskins D-coordinator talks frustration over Haynesworth
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;806884]Which players need to be taught a lesson?[/quote]

Ha! That's funny.
It was our former FO that made the mistake. It is our current FO and coach that thought they could trust AH to play in a 3-4 and give him a big check.
They had the option of getting rid of him at that time and not giving him the check. The current players on our roster did nothing wrong and do not need to be taught a lesson. Other than playing like Shizen and getting better on the field.
A post-it to the forehead would do the same thing and be less costly. The salary cap most likely will be back next season and I do not want a player on the bench collecting a big check. No lesson in the world is worth that.

over the mountain 06-13-2011 02:46 PM

Re: Redskins D-coordinator talks frustration over Haynesworth
 
[quote=Defensewins;806880]Great points Ruhskins.
It is time to move on. I couldn't care less what the media or rest of the country thinks of the Redskins or DS. Who cares? I don't.
Just win. Winning cures all....or at least field a competitive team that improves each year and is fun to watch.
I really think the delay in getting rid of him has more to do with trying to control or prevent AH from going to a team in our division like Philly. That would be a bad thing. I think a Tennessee deal would be ideal.[/quote]

Yeah the sports reporters were saying the eagles had offered us a 4th in last years draft. This is a sad, odd situation.

I agree with Ruhskins, time to just move on and I was one who wanted him to rot out on the bench for 2 more years.

Eff it, he burned us for about 20 extra mil. Time to cut the losses and just move on . . . . after we find a way of ensuring he doesnt go to the NFC east.

SmootSmack 06-13-2011 02:52 PM

Re: Redskins D-coordinator talks frustration over Haynesworth
 
The Eagles didn't offer us a 4th for Haynesworth


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