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Logan Mankins is now suing to become an UFA.
Will he stay in Brady land?
Will he be hella expensive if he jumps?

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I have a feeling Mankins, Manning, and Brees don't go anywhere. VJ on the other hand...I think Paintrain called this the other day

[url=http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extra_points/2011/07/brees_manning_r.html]Brees, Manning request own settlement terms - Extra Points - Boston.com[/url]

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I hope that Harvey Dahl is the first signing for Day 1 of the new NFL year. Resign Moss & J.Brown. I still feel we should sign a Left Gaurd as well. This will establish the competition at Center.
The combination of Brown and Dahl would be nasty for the running game.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/20/kris-jenkins-announces-retirement/]Kris Jenkins announces retirement | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/redskins-watch/2011/jul/20/right-tackle-ryan-harris-warm-redskins-reunion-sha/]Right tackle Ryan Harris warm to a Redskins reunion with Shanahan - Washington Times[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;811834][url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/redskins-watch/2011/jul/20/right-tackle-ryan-harris-warm-redskins-reunion-sha/]Right tackle Ryan Harris warm to a Redskins reunion with Shanahan - Washington Times[/url][/quote]

A nice plan B is Brown doesn't sign with us. I'd prefer to keep Brown though.

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I wonder if there's big market for right tackles this season? If not, think it would be possible to bring Harris in as back up? Suppose if Williams get hurt, we can move Brown to LT and have Harris step in as RT.. And same as if Brown gets hurt, then Harris can step in.

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Yeah, considering both Harris and Brown could be considered injury prone, it sounds like it would be a good idea to try and get both. I think both would be able to play LT or RT at a sufficient level if injuries force them to.

As far as the size of the OT FA market, I'd really only also look at Marshall Yanda. Don't think the Ravens will let him get away though. Doug Free is probably going to get a huge contract (even if he does resign with Dallas, which is likely), so I dunno about him.

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Alex Barron is a free agent.

:doh:

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Tyson Clabo is available, as is Robert Gallery I believe but many believe he's probably got his future as a G

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first of all, i don't believe beck is the answer and what we really need is a good QB to do anything, but i don't think we're getting one, so this could be another downer of a year.

second, our best option (imho) would be re-signing moss and rogers... they know the system (the coaches know them) and they''ll cost less than their replacements. brown wouldn't be an awful idea either.

I think rogers is probably gone from what i've heard, and i think that's a mistake, even with his stone hands. cromartie, ike, or JJ (cin) could replace him, but outside of that you're either overpaying for a man guy in AO or you're settling for worse options in a guy like richard marshall (who's still a very good player). that's pretty much the starting CB list...

the problem is other teams are going to spend money too, so holmes, champ, breaston, and all those other guys that have been important to their teams (ie peyton) probably aren't going anywhere unless they get a massively stupid contract.

and some aren't great fits (sydney rice with becks amazingly average arm won't make a great combo for example).

richard marshall, jenkins, and B edwards are secondary priorities for their current teams, so those are guys we have a real shot at and could help the team. tulloch wouldn't be bad either, and then you could get mid level FAs for cheap (josh wilson or a platoon of DTs to rotate) and be okay, except, you know, for the QB issue we're ignoring.

P/K options are nice this year too... sep, koch, podlesh, crosby, vinetari... could be worse


short:
resign moss, rogers, brown. if rocky is cheap, he's been okay too.
sign jenkins, OL (some FA depth here... doug free would be nice), tulloch, sep (P), crosby (K), and see what's available. edwards or R marshall wouldn't be bad (RM wants in in CAR though and probably likes starting).

don't sign guys just to sign guys. make sure they have a clear role and provide a real upgrade over what you have.

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That Guy:

Don't forget that David Akers as a PK is available. He too is a free agent. With the exception of Crosby, he might be the best of the lot this year...

Niether Moss nor Rogers is a player in the top 20% of players at their positions in the league. Re-signing them on the basis of "system familiarity" might make a lot of sense - - - but there are not a lot of reasons other than that to worry about either of them signing elsewhere.

When it comes to actual NFL games involving pro players most of whom are destined to be paid for the entirety of a season, John Beck has not shown much of anything. Nevertheless, unless the Shanahans are bluffing well enough to win the World Series of Poker without ever having a pocket pair, they like the guy. So, even though I am skeptical - - meaning I can be convinced to change my opinion with new data - - I suggest that Skins' fans begin to embrace the John Beck Era...

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That Guy returns!

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Who was That Guy?

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BEEN..........awhile.............

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been on the road, in the desert... fun times ;)

SC, as far as CBs, i just look at whats available and honestly, compared to the contracts i expect guys to sign, rogers really doesn't look that bad. he's not a pro bowler, but i like him more than hall. we play a lot of zone and he does that decently... hall's a bit small for run support tackling.

and at WR, i see holmes not being available, rice not being a good fit and guys like TO, R moss, etc not being the best guys to put with an unproven QB. so it's either santana or edwards or rolling the dice on hoping jones or smith can step it up. I mean, if they got edwards and ditched moss, i'm down with that, but i think outside of him you're looking at either a lot of money or a replacement thats really not guaranteed to be any better.

and i thought akers with transition tagged or some such. either way there's at least 3-4 P and K worth getting, and a lot of them are extremely young for their production/position.

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Omg that guy???? Lol

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Aight lets just sign the deal and get to it. My top needs in FA:

1. CB
2. NT
3. G
4. QB
5. DE

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[quote=takethecake;811875]Yeah, considering both Harris and Brown could be considered injury prone, it sounds like it would be a good idea to try and get both. I think both would be able to play LT or RT at a sufficient level if injuries force them to.

As far as the size of the OT FA market, I'd really only also look at [B]Marshall Yanda[/B]. Don't think the Ravens will let him get away though. Doug Free is probably going to get a huge contract (even if he does resign with Dallas, which is likely), so I dunno about him.[/quote]

If the Skins were to go after Yanda, I think they would want him to play G. That is his best position and we have a need at that position.

With OT's Oldenburg and Capers on the roster and needs at other positions, I doubt that the Skins would sign two FA OT's. I'm expecting Brown to come back strong this season, so I hope he is re-signed. I have no problem with signing Harris, either.

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Our biggest need by far is NT

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[quote=skinsfaninok;812114]Our biggest need by far is NT[/quote]

We have the great Albert Haynesworth to anchor that position.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;812114]Our biggest need by far is NT[/quote]

I think we can find a starting NT that can play both sides....on offense....QB.

Heck....maybe we could finally motivate Haynesworth to play NT if we gave him the keys to play QB too...he may just win the job, considering the competition.

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[quote=skinsnut;812158]I think we can find a starting NT that can play both sides....on offense....QB.

Heck....maybe we could finally motivate Haynesworth to play NT if we gave him the keys to play QB too...he may just win the job, considering the competition.[/quote]


lmao and at QB... Albert Haynesworth

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I wish there wasn't going to be that cap floor of cash that has to be spent. I'd like to really not sign any mid to big name free agents. I want to build a family type team like the steelers always seem to have.

Let Barnes start at CB opposite of Hall. Start Perry Riley next to Fletcher at ILB. Resign Brown at RT if possible if not let Selvish Capers start at RT. Between Lichtensteiger, Cook, Hurt, Hicks, and Montgomery come up with your combination for LG, C, RG. Bye bye Rabach, he gets dominated too much. Resign Santana Moss. Armstrong, Hankerson, Moss as our top 3 receivers.

Henson and Alexander as back up LB's. Resign Buchannon for nickel back. I want to keep players and let them gel, Skins just sign then cut then sign then cut, I want to build tons of team chemistry. Thats one of the reasons I LOVE the KERRIGAN pick. He is good, has a HIGH MOTOR, and will be a LEADER. Him and Rack Daddy are gonna be awesome pass rush team. Carriker, Bryant, Jenkins the starters on the front line. Keep Vonnie Holiday. Daniels if there is room on the roster to keep him.

Redskins playoff bound in 2011. I have a good feeling about Beck. Lets give him a chance, if it doesnt work out the QB class is DEEP this coming draft.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;812167]I wish there wasn't going to be that cap floor of cash that has to be spent. I'd like to really not sign any mid to big name free agents. I want to build a family type team like the steelers always seem to have.

Let Barnes start at CB opposite of Hall. Start Perry Riley next to Fletcher at ILB. Resign Brown at RT if possible if not let Selvish Capers start at RT. Between Lichtensteiger, Cook, Hurt, Hicks, and Montgomery come up with your combination for LG, C, RG. Bye bye Rabach, he gets dominated too much. Resign Santana Moss. Armstrong, Hankerson, Moss as our top 3 receivers.

Henson and Alexander as back up LB's. Resign Buchannon for nickel back. I want to keep players and let them gel, Skins just sign then cut then sign then cut, I want to build tons of team chemistry. Thats one of the reasons I LOVE the KERRIGAN pick. He is good, has a HIGH MOTOR, and will be a LEADER. Him and Rack Daddy are gonna be awesome pass rush team. Carriker, Bryant, Jenkins the starters on the front line. Keep Vonnie Holiday. Daniels if there is room on the roster to keep him.

Redskins playoff bound in 2011. I have a good feeling about Beck. Lets give him a chance, if it doesnt work out the QB class is DEEP this coming draft.[/quote]

i saw last years games, and keeping that OL and starting barnes would make for another unwatchably frustrating year. if the back end cant buy time, rakpo and kerrigan are just one giagantic waste of money.

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[quote=That Guy;812175]i saw last years games, and [B]keeping that OL and starting barnes would make for another unwatchably frustrating year.[/B] if the back end cant buy time, rakpo and kerrigan are just one giagantic waste of money.[/quote]

I agree. We have to have outside upgrades to the interior line. Just because we sign a FA does not mean it has to be an old, on the down hill vet who doesn't meet his contract size. Cerrato ain't heer no mo. I think we have an intelligent enough coaching staff that if they go get someone, they will hopefully be young enough to contribute to this team for a lot more than a Jason Taylor length tenure.

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[quote=That Guy;812175]i saw last years games, and keeping that OL and starting barnes would make for another unwatchably frustrating year. if the back end cant buy time, rakpo and kerrigan are just one giagantic waste of money.[/quote]


I thought Barnes did some good things last year, even if you don't agree you gotta give him a full seasons worth of chances. What do we do sign Nhamdi and watch another high price free agent do nothing to make us better. We were 6 and 10 last year, we are not going to win the Super Bowl this season, might has well let all of our current draft picks and young players play and see what we have.

Get rid of Rabach and start Lichentsteiger, Montgomery, Hicks/Hurt on the inside or some order like that and resign Brown and see what kind of offense we can build. As a franchise and as fans we are never willing to BUILD its always buy buy buy must win now must win now and it never works out.

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[quote=That Guy;812175]i saw last years games, and keeping that OL and starting barnes would make for another unwatchably frustrating year. if the back end cant buy time, rakpo and kerrigan are just one giagantic waste of money.[/quote]

Kinda goes the other way around to me. If Rak and Kerrigan are getting after the QB it makes the DBs jobs that much easier.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;812194]I thought Barnes did some good things last year, even if you don't agree you gotta give him a full seasons worth of chances. What do we do sign Nhamdi and watch another high price free agent do nothing to make us better. We were 6 and 10 last year, we are not going to win the Super Bowl this season, might has well let all of our current draft picks and young players play and see what we have.

Get rid of Rabach and start Lichentsteiger, Montgomery, Hicks/Hurt on the inside or some order like that and resign Brown and see what kind of offense we can build. As a franchise and as fans we are never willing to BUILD its always buy buy buy must win now must win now and it never works out.[/quote]

i'm just saying, that kind of offense would be an awful one. I'm not on the AO bandwagon, but if you dont resign rogers, you should try to get JJ or cromartie or some kind of equivalent... at least r marshall, who's still a downgrade. just cause barnes looked okay vs #3 receivers doesn't mean he's the best option we have, and then who's our new depth CB? we have to spend to meet payroll obligations to the league anyways, so we might as well solve some problems.

our OL is TERRIBLE, hicks and brown i don't have a real problem with, but our depth over the last few years, the sacks surrendered... i mean, it'd be hard to get a lot worse than what we've had the last two years, so i'm not interested in seeing rabach and heyer mess it up again. and i don't think the talent beneath them is really any better.

if we resign our guys from last year, we still need a LEAST 1 OL and a NT (and a QB) to have a shot at improving.

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[quote=Mattyk;812206]Kinda goes the other way around to me. If Rak and Kerrigan are getting after the QB it makes the DBs jobs that much easier.[/quote]

sometimes last year we had problems giving the fronts 3 seconds of coverage... i agree a good pass rush makes the DBs lives easier, but rakpo hasn't mastered teleportation yet, so he still needs some time.

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Some supposed info on Vince Young.
If we get him it will happen fast according to this.

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/18270/Titans-will-have-to-unload-Vince-Young-in-a-hurry/Default.aspx]Titans will have to unload Vince Young in a hurry[/url]

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Good info on VY...several people who would know are starting to speculate him to Miami. Not sure I agree, though.

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[QUOTE=That Guy;812212]sometimes last year we had problems giving the fronts 3 seconds of coverage... i agree a good pass rush makes the DBs lives easier, [B]but rakpo hasn't mastered teleportation yet, so he still needs some time.[[/B]/QUOTE]

HA HA HA, well said, I read an article in SI it said he's been working on that this summer.

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Seriously doubt this happens. Totally hope it doesn't. But I'm just going to put this out there because inevitably someone will come across it

[url=http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq-eagles/Report-Eagles-interested-in-Favre.html]Report: Eagles interested in Favre | Philadelphia Inquirer | 07/23/2011[/url]

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OH, The HUMANITY of it all............

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If/when Nick Barnett gets cut would/should we sign him?

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[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Top-NFL-free-agents-cornerbacks-071911]Breaking down the NFL's top free agent cornerbacks - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN[/url]

look at this list for not just DB's but OL, DL, etc.

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When does free agency begin gab dabit?

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^Saturday or Midnight on Friday

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CAN'T WAIT......should be like Draft.......Cage Match!