Re: Which Redskins Should Receive Contract Extensions after the Lockout
 

[quote=Mattyk;811805]Probably just comes down to the coaches trust Cooley more. Davis is known to have some issues regarding work ethic and focus. So if we want to blame anyone blame Davis.[/quote]I don't doubt that they do, which is why it needs to be said that tight end is only a strength on this team in theory. If you're not going to use your top two tight ends like starters, then all you have is really nice depth. I am not going to hold Fred Davis accountable for clearly outshining the role on the depth chart he has been handed.

I have never been a "trade a TE" guy, and I don't even know if Cooley with grab a fourth round pick if put on the market (maybe with his contract he could get a conditional two), but its apparent that we're simply not going to maximize the value of having two starters at TE while Fred Davis is under contract. I think they like Fred Davis, but I don't know what the offensive coaching staff is going to look like in 2012, and I think that's going to be a big determinant in whether this is his last year as a Redskin.

And I think having depth, even at a position like TE, is highly underrated. Fans don't seem to know how to react when there's an overqualified vet buried at a position behind another vet. I think it's valuable for the football team. But it also means that we won't be extending the contract to pay above market rate for that depth.

Re: Which Redskins Should Receive Contract Extensions after the Lockout
 

The reason for the "trade Cooley" cries is like any good business. You buy low, and sell high. The Patriots are the best at this. I think they are probably the only team that could get Randy Moss for a 4th rounder and turn around 2 years later and get a 3rd out of him. Seymour near the end of his career? Still got a first for him. That's smart business and it sets yourself up for the future. It's not about the move you make today, it's about the move you are going to make in 3 years.

Re: Which Redskins Should Receive Contract Extensions after the Lockout
 

LANDRY is a 100% keeper are you guys serious?? lol
COOLEY is our Franchise TE. Great locker room guy. Hes staying. Your crazy.

THIS TEAM NEEDS TALENT. We need to hold our best players... and add more talent. Bottom line.

Re: Which Redskins Should Receive Contract Extensions after the Lockout
 

I would lock up LL too.

Re: Which Redskins Should Receive Contract Extensions after the Lockout
 

[quote=Mattyk;811897]I would lock up LL too.[/quote]

After one year? Haven't we learned anything? He didn't even play the full season at that level either.

Re: Which Redskins Should Receive Contract Extensions after the Lockout
 

LL is a baller, not worried about him flopping.

Re: Which Redskins Should Receive Contract Extensions after the Lockout
 

I have one jersey and it's a Cooley jersey.

Therefore we are not trading #47.

End of discussion.

Re: Which Redskins Should Receive Contract Extensions after the Lockout
 

[quote=NC_Skins;811898]After one year? Haven't we learned anything? He didn't even play the full season at that level either.[/quote]

You going to sign Asomugha instead? Good luck.

Re: Which Redskins Should Receive Contract Extensions after the Lockout
 

[quote=Mattyk;811805]Probably just comes down to the coaches trust Cooley more. Davis is known to have some issues regarding work ethic and focus. So if we want to blame anyone blame Davis.[/quote]

that may be the case and there are also reports to the contrary so it's kinda hard to say... I don't think that we've seen davis enough to really evaluate on the field differences.. cooley hands seem to be getting worse on him but maybe that was a mcnabb thing, but I can recall several times he had the ball knocked out after the catch, luckily mostly on the sidelines.. looking at his numbers maybe that's overstated I'd have to go back and look again, either way he's a valuable asset but we need to find a way to make the best case scenario for both of our tight ends

Re: Which Redskins Should Receive Contract Extensions after the Lockout
 

[quote=SkinzWin;811905]You going to sign Asomugha instead? Good luck.[/quote]

Absolutely not. Not even sure where you got that rediculious idea from. You sure haven't seen me say anything in regards to Asomugha.

Re: Which Redskins Should Receive Contract Extensions after the Lockout
 

Landry and Fred Davis (but out of his own self interest its probably the right move for him not to sign it)

I would extend Fletch for 2 years and hopefully we'll find or he'll groom someone to take his place.

I'd extend Carriker and re-sign Doughty on the cheap.
I have to look at Barnes number but I depending on what year he's in I'd sign him on the cheap too same with any players that might see an increase in playing time where they could play their way into a big number down the line.

Yes, I'm a cheap bastard.

Re: Which Redskins Should Receive Contract Extensions after the Lockout
 

[quote=NC_Skins;811952]Absolutely not. Not even sure where you got that rediculious idea from. You sure haven't seen me say anything in regards to Asomugha.[/quote]

Well... It sounded to me as if you were in disagreement with Matty's statement about locking up LL. So therefore... I ass-umed if you did not wish to retain LL that another FA CB would be on your list. And voila, I give you Asomugha, the likely highest valued CB to go on the market. Purhaps my dots are a bit disconnected from your intended meaning originally, I blame it on the internet.

Re: Which Redskins Should Receive Contract Extensions after the Lockout
 

[quote=SkinzWin;812106]Well... It sounded to me as if you were in disagreement with Matty's statement about locking up LL. So therefore... I ass-umed if you did not wish to retain LL that another FA CB would be on your list. And voila, I give you Asomugha, the likely highest valued CB to go on the market. Purhaps my dots are a bit disconnected from your intended meaning originally, I blame it on the internet.[/quote]

Landry is a safety

Re: Which Redskins Should Receive Contract Extensions after the Lockout
 

[quote=SkinzWin;812106]Well... It sounded to me as if you were in disagreement with Matty's statement about locking up LL. So therefore... I ass-umed if you did not wish to retain LL that another FA CB would be on your list. And voila, I give you Asomugha, the likely highest valued CB to go on the market. Purhaps my dots are a bit disconnected from your intended meaning originally, I blame it on the internet.[/quote]



Laundry = Safety

Asomugha = Corner Back


The two aren't even in the same ball park in terms of position. Besides, Asomugh has shown to be elite from the get go. LL has only really shown one good year, and it wasn't even a full year. He's got two more years left, let him earn that extension this year.

Re: Which Redskins Should Receive Contract Extensions after the Lockout
 

I think the team will sign players that need to be signed such as Moss who's contracts have ended. Then I guess they have a whole year to work on the guys in their last year. No way are they going to look at guys 2 or 3 years away in order to sign them to life long contracts. The team will wait and evaluate the player in their last year. Unless the team needs to restructure someone's contract in order to get below the CAP which should not be a problem this year.

Re: Which Redskins Should Receive Contract Extensions after the Lockout
 

[quote=SBXVII;812120]I think the team will sign players that need to be signed such as Moss who's contracts have ended. Then I guess they have a whole year to work on the guys in their last year. No way are they going to look at guys 2 or 3 years away in order to sign them to life long contracts. The team will wait and evaluate the player in their last year. Unless the team needs to restructure someone's contract in order to get below the CAP which should not be a problem this year.[/quote]

This is an excellent point...extensions?...really?
Uh...don't all teams have to sign rookie FA, their own UFA...and then go through a massive shopping spree all within a week with the largest UFA pool in years
I really think anyone with an existing contract will have to "chill out"....now if you are saying mid year...perhaps...but that is mostly a distraction.
Yes, they did this with McNabb...so if they extend anyone midyear, it would be Landry...otherwise, you are talking about next years offseason problem.