Re: Redskins sign QB Kellen Clemens
 

[quote=GTripp0012;814085]Yes, because: look at your calendar.[/quote]

:lol:

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[QUOTE=SkinzWin;814080]Thank YOU!!! Numbers growing daily.[/QUOT

Add me to the list

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[quote=GTripp0012;814065]To me, this signing says more about the Redskins plan to rebuild the QB position than it does about Kellen Clemens. Kellen Clemens, Matt Leinart, and John Beck all have something in common. They were all top two round picks. They all had really good predictive college statistics. They all can be acquired at bargain basement prices (I think Leinart is not coming here because there's actually a market for him).

Basically, the Shanahan's are making a bet that the market missed on a QB drafted between 2006-2008 and they can find him[/quote]Agreed. I'd rather have Clemens, Beck, Leinart under C in 2011 than any QB that was drafted this year.

To all those that are complaining about our QB situation....There is no franchise QB ripe on the franchise QB tree at Redskins Park. We gambled on McNabb, it didn't pan out. We're going to have a journeyman QB unless one of these guys steps up or we get one in the 2012 draft. Be patient, like it or not, we're rebuilding. There aren't any other options at QB out there that don't break the bank or require multiple top draft picks to get.

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;814116][QUOTE=SkinzWin;814080]Thank YOU!!! Numbers growing daily.[/QUOT

Add me to the list[/quote]

Done.

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And as soon as I make that apart of my sig, it looks like I'm going to have to remove it.

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3214/kyle-orton]Kyle Orton - Denver Broncos - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]

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[quote=SkinzWin;814128]And as soon as I make that apart of my sig, it looks like I'm going to have to remove it.

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3214/kyle-orton]Kyle Orton - Denver Broncos - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url][/quote]


Good!


I'm not against Orton. I am however against trading any picks for Orton. You'd think with the events of last year, you'd realize that's not the right route to go. It rarely ever is.

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[quote=SkinzWin;814128]And as soon as I make that apart of my sig, it looks like I'm going to have to remove it.

[URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3214/kyle-orton"]Kyle Orton - Denver Broncos - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/URL][/quote]


Fawk rotoworld it is blocked here. What does it say?

According to Leinart's wiki page he is with Seattle now.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Leinart]Matt Leinart - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]


Also on a side night it kind of sucks his son doesn't have his last name.

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[quote=mredskins;814132]Fawk rotoworld it is blocked here. What does it say?

According to Leinart's wiki page he is with Seattle now.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Leinart]Matt Leinart - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]


Also on a side night it kind of sucks his son doesn't have his last name.[/quote]

"NFL Network's Michelle Beisner reports trade talks between the Broncos and Dolphins are getting "serious," and a deal could be reached within six hours.
Just minutes before, the Miami Herald reported that Orton remained interested in restructuring to stay in Denver, which hardly seems credible. Orton isn't going to accept the long-term No. 2 job behind Tim Tebow when he could land a starting gig elsewhere. Expect to see Orton to the Dolphins in exchange for something in the neighborhood of a third-round pick. ESPN's Adam Schefter reports both teams "would like" to make the Orton trade happen."

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[quote=SkinzWin;814134]"NFL Network's Michelle Beisner reports trade talks between the Broncos and Dolphins are getting "serious," and a deal could be reached within six hours.
Just minutes before, the Miami Herald reported that Orton remained interested in restructuring to stay in Denver, which hardly seems credible. Orton isn't going to accept the long-term No. 2 job behind Tim Tebow when he could land a starting gig elsewhere. Expect to see Orton to the Dolphins in exchange for something in the neighborhood of a third-round pick. ESPN's Adam Schefter reports both teams "would like" to make the Orton trade happen."[/quote]


Thank you, no big lost for the skins.

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[quote=mredskins;814132]Also on a side night it kind of sucks his son doesn't have his last name.[/quote]

He doesn't?


Leinart's son, Cole Cameron [B][U]Leinart[/U][/B], was born on October 24, 2006 in California.

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[quote=mredskins;814132]Fawk rotoworld it is blocked here. What does it say?

According to Leinart's wiki page he is with Seattle now.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Leinart]Matt Leinart - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]


Also on a side night it kind of sucks his son doesn't have his last name.[/quote]

Couple sites reporting Lienart a Seahawk including the Seahawks home page:

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ycn-8871107]Seahawks sign Tarvaris Jackson and Matt Leinart: Fan reaction - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

[url=http://www.seahawks.com/news/articles/article-1/Reports-Hasselbeck-going-Jackson-Leinart-coming/6aa0b844-797e-4a6d-bcf5-588836bf9c81]Reports: Hasselbeck going; Jackson, Leinart coming[/url]

Haven't heard anything from reliable sources - Glazer, Shefter, Smootsmack.

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My reaction when I saw this

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSOrGxysf8Y]‪Scary Movie 2- Puke Scene.wmv‬‏ - YouTube[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;814136]He doesn't?


Leinart's son, Cole Cameron [B][U]Leinart[/U][/B], was born on October 24, 2006 in California.[/quote]


I guess i stopped reading at Cameron, is that is his middle name or did he take on his mom's and dad's last name?

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[quote=JoeRedskin;814142]Couple sites reporting Lienart a Seahawk including the Seahawks home page:

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ycn-8871107]Seahawks sign Tarvaris Jackson and Matt Leinart: Fan reaction - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

[url=http://www.seahawks.com/news/articles/article-1/Reports-Hasselbeck-going-Jackson-Leinart-coming/6aa0b844-797e-4a6d-bcf5-588836bf9c81]Reports: Hasselbeck going; Jackson, Leinart coming[/url]

Haven't heard anything from reliable sources - Glazer, Shefter, Smootsmack.[/quote]

Well this is best chance Clipboard Jesus has had to become a starter. We'll see if he can beat out Leinart or TJax.

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[quote=mredskins;814163]I guess i stopped reading at Cameron, is that is his middle name or did he take on his mom's and dad's last name?[/quote]

That's his middle name, but it also happens to be her last name. My guess it's by design. :)

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Leinart is staying in Houston

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[quote=SmootSmack;814174]Leinart is staying in Houston[/quote]

lol...wut?


You'd think he'd jump at the opportunity to potentially play elsewhere?

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^^ Interesting. Why is Houston hot to keep him? And why would he stay there when he has a chance at starting in either Seattle or Washington? I thought Shaub was entrenched and that either we or Seattle would pay more.

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Well, I think he appreciates what Houston did for him last year, and with Houston he's perhaps one injury away from starting whereas he and Seattle he may be two. I never really thought Seattle was a serious choice for him, but apparently it was, I did think he'd give serious consideration to the Redskins. But maybe we didn't extend the same courtesy to him.

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[quote=SmootSmack;814174]Leinart is staying in Houston[/quote]

Yahoo's report is wrong?

Re: Redskins sign QB Kellen Clemens
 

Side note- you know we've been jonesing for some football when Kellen freaking Clemens spawns a four page thread in a matter of a few hours. LOL.

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[quote=GMScud;814212]Yahoo's report is wrong?[/quote]

what report is that?

Re: Redskins sign QB Kellen Clemens
 

I actually hope the kid from Ind. makes the team. He was pretty good in the Big Ten. But Clemens is just awful.

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[quote=SmootSmack;814226]what report is that?[/quote]

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ycn-8871107]Seahawks sign Tarvaris Jackson and Matt Leinart: Fan reaction - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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But then there's this:

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/27/texans-keep-matt-leinart/]Texans keep Matt Leinart | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Re: Redskins sign QB Kellen Clemens
 

He's definitely going to Houston and Vince Young tells me ('cause that's how I roll) he's not coming to Washington...but then again I've been "lied" to in the past

Re: Redskins sign QB Kellen Clemens
 

[quote=GMScud;814217]Side note- you know we've been jonesing for some football when Kellen freaking Clemens spawns a four page thread in a matter of a few hours. LOL.[/quote]

LOL

I'll drink to that!

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Re: Redskins sign QB Kellen Clemens
 

don't ask why but John Beck is growing on me ...

Re: Redskins sign QB Kellen Clemens
 

[quote=DCtoAZ;814330]don't ask why but John Beck is growing on me ...[/quote]

Stockholm Syndrome? LOL.

Re: Redskins sign QB Kellen Clemens
 

clemens is garbage from what ive seen of him. i suppose we need bodies at the position though...

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He has 5 TD's and 11 int's. I see a trend with our QB's.

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He's a former Jet, people. Give the guy a chance. :D

Re: Redskins sign QB Kellen Clemens
 

[quote=SmootSmack;814298]He's definitely going to Houston and Vince Young tells me ('cause that's how I roll) he's not coming to Washington...but then again I've been "lied" to in the past[/quote]

I hear VY could be headed to Philly.

Re: Redskins sign QB Kellen Clemens
 

[quote=GTripp0012;814065]To me, this signing says more about the Redskins plan to rebuild the QB position than it does about Kellen Clemens. Kellen Clemens, Matt Leinart, and John Beck all have something in common. They were all top two round picks. They all had really good predictive college statistics. They all can be acquired at bargain basement prices (I think Leinart is not coming here because there's actually a market for him).

Basically, the Shanahan's are making a bet that the market missed on a QB drafted between 2006-2008 and they can find him. They're probably right on the first clause: probability alone suggests that NFL types probably missed on Leinart OR Clemens OR Quinn OR Beck OR Nate Davis. [B]But obviously, they didn't miss on all of them.[/B]
And personally, the one guy in that group who seems like he has the least upside is Beck. But at least, I believe, the intentions are in the right place.[/quote]


How is that obvious? You may be correct but it is also possible that all of them are mediocre at their very best...

Also, even if only one of them is going to turn out to be "more than just decent" as a QB, that would give a team - - like the Skins - - only a 20% chance of picking the one that will turn out well.

Clemens will not embarrass a team as a back-up QB. However, if he is the guy who wins the QB competition and the guy you start the season with, the team's fortunes look bleak

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[quote=DCtoAZ;814330]don't ask why but John Beck is growing on me ...[/quote]

Beware. Athletes' Foot fungus will grow on you too...

Re: Redskins sign QB Kellen Clemens
 

[quote=sportscurmudgeon;814469]How is that obvious? You may be correct but it is also possible that all of them are mediocre at their very best...

Also, even if only one of them is going to turn out to be "more than just decent" as a QB, that would give a team - - like the Skins - - only a 20% chance of picking the one that will turn out well.

Clemens will not embarrass a team as a back-up QB. However, if he is the guy who wins the QB competition and the guy you start the season with, the team's fortunes look bleak[/quote]Well, I think you read that bolded part wrong, but you got my idea.

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I'm a little confused on the signing of Clemens, who has been a career-back up thus far in the NFL. That leaves us with John Beck, also a backup, and Rex Grossman, who is now the only proven NFL starter on our QB chart.

I want to ask the veteran members here why the Redskins didnt go after a starting caliber Free Agent QB? Someone like Matt Hasselbeck, or Marc Bulger? I think Bulger is finished but he has tons of starting expereince, and I could see him lasting here for one year while we prepare for the future.

Is the answer just as simple as Mike Shanahan beleives that he can win with these guys? Does this make Rex the favorite to start??

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[quote=SmootSmack;814298]He's definitely going to Houston and Vince Young tells me ('cause that's how I roll) he's not coming to Washington...but then again I've been "lied" to in the past[/quote]

EDIT: Vince Young is now very much back in play. Nothing can happen of course before he gets cut but he's once again a strong possibility

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;814627]EDIT: Vince Young is now very much back in play. Nothing can happen of course before he gets cut but he's once again a strong possibility[/QUOTE]

I like it, worth the risk


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Why haven't they cut him already? What are they waiting for?