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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;815578]I want to see how the contracts are structured before I pass judgement. No doubt we have work to do on the OL.[/quote]Yeah, contract structure is paramount.

Chester is kind of a weird signing. On the surface, it appears he's getting starters money. Maybe he's not. If he's getting starters money, that means he's not going to need to actually play like a starter in order to start. If he's getting backup money, he could possibly start or even get released.

I think they'll go after other lineman, just: weird.

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How much of that is guaranteed money

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well, i like chester, and he's athletic, which makes sense in shanny's offense... he can pull all day long.

money seems high, and we still need a quality OL signing, but he'll help.

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So potentially three Sooners starting on our OL?

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What's the situation with ATLs OL? Perhaps the team wanted to move too fast?

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Hell yeah!!!!!!!! The best FA move thus far.

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[quote=GTripp0012;815515]Ah, tricky me. I suppose I would write about the Ravens offensive line in a Redskins offensive review.


Quote:
Right Guard: Chris Chester, a second round pick of the Ravens in 2006, now a third year player. Chester was garnering some first round talk in the days leading up to the draft, and was a Center at Oklahoma, but has found his niche as a Guard for the Ravens. Chester isn't and will never be Ben Grubbs, [B]but he's versatile, which gives the Ravens two guards who can pull so that they can run plays either way, and is, like the rest of the line, strong in pass protection.[/B]
He can move to Center if the Ravens don't want to re-sign Jason Brown.

Redskins Prospectus: The Redskins, hopefully can use the late rounds of the draft in 2009 to find a Chris Chester type. Chester is good, but he's not Grubbs-good, and the dropoff from the Chester's of the draft, a 2nd round pick, to the say Jamey Richard (Colts) of the draft, a 7th round pick, is very, very small. When you take an interior OL player in the first two rounds, you want to get Grubbs, you don't want to get a Chester, or a Jake Grove (Raiders) who doesn't make pro bowls, those guys are a dime a dozen in the draft.

You also risk taking a player on the OL who isn't any good at all in the last few rounds, but I trust the college scouting department to get it right, and get us a guy who can start by his 2nd year in the league, like Chester.

So, I suppose this is my opinion on the signing. .[/quote]


sounds like what shanny wants in a o lineman, i'm loving all the moves so far and can't wait to see this new d we have in the works.

god damn it's nice to be talking football again!

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[quote=SmootSmack;815637]So potentially three Sooners starting on our OL?[/quote]

Who's the third?

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Trent Williams, Chris Chester, Jammal Brown

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[quote=mlmdub130;815679]sounds like what shanny wants in a o lineman, i'm loving all the moves so far and can't wait to see this new d we have in the works.

god damn it's nice to be talking football again![/quote]I basically would give the same scouting report to Will Montgomery as well. Chester is more athletic than Monty though, which probably makes a difference, particularly as he gets older.

There's no question he's a good scheme fit. Just a question over whether he's a quality starter or best served as a backup.

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Bring in Davin Joesph. Get Orakpo even more riled up during practice.

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[quote=SmootSmack;815568]Right now the projected starting lineup left to right (assuming Jammal Brown re-signs, which is expected) is Williams, Kory L., Monty, Chester, Brown[/quote]
Thats still looking pretty bad other than Trent Williams.

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[quote=steveo395;815725]Thats still looking pretty bad other than Trent Williams.[/quote]

Hard to say right now. How a line gels together is key. Individual talent is one thing but how they learn to play TOGETHER is paramount. I'm not sure how good a cut back runner Torain is. He seems more of a straight gut, punishing type runner. This line tandem seems to be perfect for a back like ....Portis. May need to discover a good cut back runner in camp. anyone have ideas?

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[quote=steveo395;815725]Thats still looking pretty bad other than Trent Williams.[/quote]

i disagree. jamaal brown is going to return to form this year. also, we havent signed dahl or clabo yet :)

williams chester monty dahl j brown


compared to last year.........Me likey!!!!!

now qb is a totally different feeling.......me NO likey..........our offense is still super f*cked with a bum at qb.

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[quote=Mechanix544;815729]i disagree. jamaal brown is going to return to form this year. also, we havent signed dahl or clabo yet :)

williams chester monty dahl j brown


compared to last year.........Me likey!!!!!

now qb is a totally different feeling.......me NO likey..........our offense is still super f*cked with a bum at qb.[/quote]

Yeah.. Big "Yikes" on the QB front. Hope the Shanny's know what they are doing here with Beck.

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[quote=dblanch66;815736]Yeah.. Big "Yikes" on the QB front. [B]Hope the Shanny's know what they are doing here with Beck[/B].[/quote]

The only thing I think they are doing with Beck is use him to get through this year.....rebuild the other area's and get..........their guy before next season. I don't care WHAT Shannihan is touting, he does not....really believe that JB is the Skins francise QB.
like "stopgap"

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Redskins agreed to terms on a five-year, $20 million contract with G/C Chris Chester.
As they always do, the Redskins are overpaying for mediocre talent. Chester has struggled and eventually been benched anytime the Ravens tried to give him a long-term starting role. But the 'Skins are in desperate need of warm bodies on the offensive line and Chester fits the bill. He has connections to Redskins offensive line coach Chris Foerster, who spent three years with the Ravens between 2005-07.
Source: Jason La Canfora on Twitter
Jul 28, 4:07 PM

Rotoworld

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[quote=Terpfan76;815785]Redskins agreed to terms on a five-year, $20 million contract with G/C Chris Chester.
As they always do, the Redskins are overpaying for mediocre talent. Chester has struggled and eventually been benched anytime the Ravens tried to give him a long-term starting role. But the 'Skins are in desperate need of warm bodies on the offensive line and Chester fits the bill. He has connections to Redskins offensive line coach Chris Foerster, who spent three years with the Ravens between 2005-07.
Source: Jason La Canfora on Twitter
Jul 28, 4:07 PM

Rotoworld[/quote]

Rotoworld is a great source of up to date information but to believe what they say after the fact is like listening to drunken Dallas fans yammer all night. Their opinions are there own and they are heavily biased.

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Biased toward who? I'm just providing info that I didn't see posted. Everyone is acting like this guy is going to be great, but there's nothing really that shows he's anywhere near worth the money he got. I'm hoping for the best, just like the rest of us, but at the same time, this does look a little like Danny boy being Danny boy.

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I never pay any attention to the "analysis" on Rotoworld. It's kind of like Wikipedia, just about anyone can post anything on there and they do.

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Well, the twitter is from LaCanfora. Not exactly the most "balanced" insider when it comes to the Skins.

I put Chester in the wait and see column. He looks like a scheme fit but not that great shakes.

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[quote=Terpfan76;815791]Biased toward who? I'm just providing info that I didn't see posted. Everyone is acting like this guy is going to be great, but there's nothing really that shows he's anywhere near worth the money he got. I'm hoping for the best, just like the rest of us, but at the same time, this does look a little like Danny boy being Danny boy.[/quote]

No offense man, but anyone who believes Snyder is calling any shots at this point is in La La Land. I don't think Chester is Logan Mankins, but I think he will be a solid starter. He was a poor fit in Baltimore power block scheme and has the ability to exceed in our zone blocking scheme.

I will say this, anyone who thinks our offensive line of the past two seasons was better than what we potentially may have this upcoming season is delusional. Granted that anything can happen, but I believe this could be a solid line. They are not the Jets offensive line, but there has definitely been an improvement.

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JLC is just the source of the info that Chester was signed by the Redskins. The "analysis" is written by arbitrary people-some are former NFL people (like my anonymous almost always wrong so I ignore him now but he got Bowen right former agent source) others are just regular dudes-2nd job, college students. I suspect that if you wanted to write for Rotoworld you probably could. I know that as of a couple of years ago, the "hiring" process was non-existent

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[quote=rbanerjee23;815582]ehh... did we overpay? yeah, but hopefully we can draft someone and develop him while chester plays for the next 2-3 years.[/quote]

We might have overpayed today. However a few years down the line this type of contract could easily be the norm for someone like Chester. With the way free agency works overpaid can become underpaid in a matter of years. The key is finding out weather or not we overpaid today. Not last year or the year before but today. Personally I'm inclined to think we overpaid on this but I'm not about to complain about adding a guy that could easily be tailor made for a zone scheme.

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When I heard this signing on the radio the very next thing I heard was "We just overpayed for a backup."

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You're just upset the skins were smart enough to avoid signing any of the players in your sig.

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I like the signing. Low key guy who can get the job done. He's not really that bad like some are making him out to be. May not be a Davin Joseph but is a starter in this league IMO. My only question is whether he'll play guard or center? I'm hoping guard.

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[quote=chrisl13;815893]I like the signing. Low key guy who can get the job done. He's not really that bad like some are making him out to be. May not be a Davin Joseph but is a starter in this league IMO. My only question is whether he'll play guard or center? I'm hoping guard.[/quote]

That's what I'm sayin. He's a starter at least. People actin' like we just gave 27 million for a turnstile.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;815863]You're just upset the skins were smart enough to avoid signing any of the players in your sig.[/quote]

Starting to change your mind on our moves the past two days?

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I like the signing of Chester, and the releasing of Rabach. Rabach was a true pro and always lined up to play on Sundays. God Bless Casey and thanks for representing the Redskins Nation with class. Anyone know if Big Mike Williams is coming to camp after last year blood clots kept him out?

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[quote=Mechanix544;815729]i disagree. jamaal brown is going to return to form this year. also, we havent signed dahl or clabo yet :)

williams chester monty dahl j brown


compared to last year.........Me likey!!!!!

now qb is a totally different feeling.......me NO likey..........our offense is still super f*cked with a bum at qb.[/quote]

Clabo staying in Atlanta.

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[quote=SmootSmack;815796]I never pay any attention to the "analysis" on Rotoworld. It's kind of like Wikipedia, just about anyone can post anything on there and they do.[/quote]

OK, I can understand that. I never really paid that much attention to their analysts. I've used the site mainly as a source for news/transactions much like MLBTR. I still feel we over paid for someone who's done nothing to deserve that type of contract. Here's hoping he earns it and then some.

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Not sure this is an upgrade over Rabach. Are we just signing guys just for the sake of signing them????

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[quote=Ruhskins;815799]No offense man, but anyone who believes Snyder is calling any shots at this point is in La La Land. I don't think Chester is Logan Mankins, but I think he will be a solid starter. He was a poor fit in Baltimore power block scheme and has the ability to exceed in our zone blocking scheme.

I will say this, anyone who thinks our offensive line of the past two seasons was better than what we potentially may have this upcoming season is delusional. Granted that anything can happen, but I believe this could be a solid line. They are not the Jets offensive line, but there has definitely been an improvement.[/quote]

It's funny how you can use "no offense" and basically call someone any name in the book lol... Mind you I'm not accusing you of that, just making an observation.

While I've been much happier with the Skins moves since Bruce Allen and Shanny came along, to think the man that signs the paychecks has no say at all is a bit naive. It sure seems like he's allowing Allen and Shanny to make all the decisions, but based on previous history, it'll take more than one or two off seasons to change the perception that he's D.C.'s Napoleon.

As for the offensive line, it'll be hard not to improve considering how bad it's been over the years. Aside from adding Chester and drafting Maurice Hurt, who else have we added? We still need much more talent otherwise it won't matter who we have behind center as, like years passed, he'll spend more time on his back than upright.

I do love the direction the team is going now, especially with the additions to the defense. We may actually end up a top 20-25 defense... that's a helluva improvement... seriously.

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[quote=Terpfan76;816007]
I do love the direction the team is going now, especially with the additions to the defense. [B]We may actually end up a top 20-25 defense... that's a helluva improvement[/B]... seriously.[/quote]

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[quote=skinsfan69;816006]Not sure this is an upgrade over Rabach. Are we just signing guys just for the sake of signing them????[/quote]

I liked Rabach, but just about anyone at this point is an upgrade over Rabach. He just got pushed around constantly. I think they are paying to much for Chester, but he might end up playing guard while Montgomery plays center. T. Williams, Chester, Montgomery, Heyer, Brown wouldn't look to bad. Would love to see Capers and Hurt push some of these guys.

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Confirmed, Chester is going to play at RG.

[URL="http://twitter.com/#%21/Rich_Campbell/status/96969278510731264"]Twitter[/URL]

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can I say any louder that I LOVE THIS NEW REGIME .... little moves like this are what builds winners ... once you become the Patriots you can do the haynesworth, ochocinco moves but until then you have to have solid core players and build from that .. i love it .. we will be competitive ... i really think our offense is going to be smoother than we've seen in a LONG time and the Defense is getting younger, faster, and stronger .. WTF is going on, I feel like a real NFL team !! Let's celebrate in February not in July this is awesome !

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[quote=DCtoAZ;816158]can I say any louder that I LOVE THIS NEW REGIME .... little moves like this are what builds winners ... once you become the Patriots you can do the haynesworth, ochocinco moves but until then you have to have solid core players and build from that .. i love it .. we will be competitive ... i really think our offense is going to be smoother than we've seen in a LONG time and the Defense is getting younger, faster, and stronger .. WTF is going on, I feel like a real NFL team !! Let's celebrate in February not in July this is awesome ![/quote]

I like the enthusiasm!!!

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"Regime" sounds communist but I agree...we're on the right track and have some great leaders finally! Now our blind optimism can be real optimism. :D