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[quote=Mattyk;821179]I'll be interested to see how teams approach this preseason vs ones in the past. These games are more important than they've ever been.[/quote]


I agree. I think this preseason will be treated more like the regular season than in the past.

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I'm looking for all of these young guys that were drafted this year and last to get on the field and get some game time.

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[quote=warriorzpath;821282]I know it's still early but I'm worried that Brandon banks doesn't make the team. One of the NFC east teams will surely sign him. And whether shanahan admits it or not. He's a difference maker.[/quote]

Are they down on this guy or something cause of the stabbing? He's probably the only game breaker on the team. He can flip the field position. No way he doesn't make the team.

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[quote=NC_Skins;821309]All this man-crush on Banks kills me. No team in all this time has bothered to put him on their team, even when he was on our practice squad last year. Zilch. Nobody. (including NFC East teams) That is even after the fact that freaking Devin "i'd rather be modeling than learning football" Thomas got picked up by not one, but two teams. (one being a NFC East team)

He's 150lbs. He doesn't contribute jack at the WR spot. At least Hester, Cribbs, and many other of the KR/PR contribute at some level at the WR spot.[/quote]

Who gives a damn how much he weighs? Look at what he did when his ass got on the field. He's not much of a wr right now but coach the guy up. Way to valuable on teams to let him go.

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[quote=skinsfan69;821386]Are they down on this guy or something cause of the stabbing? He's probably the only game breaker on the team. He can flip the field position. No way he doesn't make the team.[/quote]

All that was true last year but the new rules kill him. He will only be returning punts if he does make it

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I'm just so excited. I expect there to be a lot of subsituting. How much game shape are players in?

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I want to see Helu's first time at looking like a young Clinton Portis.

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[quote=Lotus;821418]I want to see Helu's first time at looking like a young Clinton Portis.[/quote]

That would be incredible.

I still remember CP's first run as a Skin like it were yesterday.

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NO INJURIES!!! I'm interested in the overall look of both the offense and defense. The line play on both sides of the ball has to show improvement or its going to be a long year. If the guys upfront do their jobs, everything else will fall in line. Beck or Grossman?

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Of course, no injuries first.

Then, I want to see if the 3-4 actually looks like a 3-4 this season, instead of a group 4-3 players playing out of position.

Kicking competition should be interesting. Graham is a proven kicker but Gano has the upside.

I want to see pass protection from the RB position with Portis' blocking gone and possibly Sellers too. We know Hightower can block, but what about Helu, Royster, Young?

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[quote=rd421;821395]All that was true last year but the new rules kill him. He will only be returning punts if he does make it[/quote]

forgot about that. kickoffs are now back to the 35 yard line.

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[quote=skinsfan69;821388]Who gives a damn how much he weighs? Look at what he did when his ass got on the field. He's not much of a wr right now but coach the guy up. Way to valuable on teams to let him go.[/quote]


This reminds me of those discussions with the Marko Mitchell, Devin Thomas, and Colt Brennan fans. WE WILL RUE THE DAY WE CUT THEM!! Years later, Marko is getting cut by a CFL team.

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[quote=skinsfan69;821386]Are they down on this guy or something cause of the stabbing? He's probably the only game breaker on the team. He can flip the field position. No way he doesn't make the team.[/quote]

Banks is a return specialist so if he's lost anything after the injuries, then he could definitely lose his spot if one of the young guys looks good on returns (Paul, Robinson, Austin), but I like his chances and he's sooo fun to watch.

Was looking at the new rules for next year and found it funny reading one of the bullets, A defenseless player is described as...a kicker/punter during the kick or return. Don't need to worry about our new punter being able to take a hit, Rokea (as the immortal Gus Johnson pronounces it), got his toughness playing Aussie rules football.
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Anybody that plays Aussie rules football is a badass to begin with. Even Chuck Norris wouldn't dare question those guy's toughness.

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Chuck Norris invented Aussie rules football so he could have something to do when he wanted to relax.

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[quote=NC_Skins;821476]This reminds me of those discussions with the Marko Mitchell, Devin Thomas, and Colt Brennan fans. WE WILL RUE THE DAY WE CUT THEM!! Years later, Marko is getting cut by a CFL team.[/quote]

Are you crazy? There's no comparision to those other players and Banks. Banks was the best redskins player in at least a couple of the games last season.

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I'll be looking at the cheerleaders. Ops, I mean the QB and WR play.

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[quote=Chico23231;821183]Rookies rookies rookies, they are the newest in the family...cant wait to see what they bring.

Want to see who steps out with the first team and how the new starters play (Beck, Riley, Chester, OJ, Montgomery)[/quote]

Seconded.

Also I'll be looking at the new players. I'll be beer vending the game, so I won't get to watch till the 4th quarter, which in preseason I really won't be that excited about, but I'll be sure to tape it and watch the first half later. Don't forget to tip your vendors ;-)

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[quote=warriorzpath;821564]Are you crazy? There's no comparision to those other players and Banks. Banks was the best redskins player in at least a couple of the games last season.[/quote]

How so? Remember that one good game Devin Thomas had? I've seen so many fans talk about how we were going to regret cutting him. Banks is ok, but he's a dime a dozen. He was middle of the pack in KR average, and had that one fantastic game in Detroit and it's like everybody put this guy on a level he doesn't deserve. You want to compare him to the other return greats, but he doesn't even remotely come close to those guys. Hester, Cribbs, and most of the other return guys contribute in other areas. He is not.

Don't take my word for it, Skins reporter Chris Russell says he's not liked much around Redskins park. Seems like he has attitude issues.

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[quote=Monkeydad;821422]That would be incredible.

[B]I still remember CP's first run as a Skin like it were yesterday.
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Geez my man Time flies by doesn't it? That was awesome I was so stoked to have a BIG TIME RB like Portis

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[quote=skinster;821571]Seconded.

Also I'll be looking at the new players. I'll be beer vending the game, so I won't get to watch till the 4th quarter, which in preseason I really won't be that excited about, but I'll be sure to tape it and watch the first half later. Don't forget to tip your vendors ;-)[/quote]

Beer vending is pimp sh*t, thats gotta be cool. The only probably is id be puking just looking down at all the sh*tty beer im carrying, yall need to get some good IPAs and Pale Ales up in that especially if im shelling around 10 for it.

Hell yeah i always tip the hell outta you guys, thats stuff is heavy

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I never really watched the TB safties from a critical standpoint on CP's first ever running play for the Skins before.

They both played that run so badly it's almost hard to believe.

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[quote=Monkeydad;821422]That would be incredible.

I still remember CP's first run as a Skin like it were yesterday.

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Ahh the memories. I was so giddy that day. Coach Gibbs was back and we had a shiny new RB all ready to dominate.

If I knew then what I know now.... ;)

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[quote=NC_Skins;821573]How so? Remember that one good game Devin Thomas had? I've seen so many fans talk about how we were going to regret cutting him. Banks is ok, but he's a dime a dozen. He was middle of the pack in KR average, and had that one fantastic game in Detroit and it's like everybody put this guy on a level he doesn't deserve. You want to compare him to the other return greats, but he doesn't even remotely come close to those guys. Hester, Cribbs, and most of the other return guys contribute in other areas. He is not.

Don't take my word for it, Skins reporter Chris Russell says he's not liked much around Redskins park. Seems like he has attitude issues.

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Actually I don't remember the good game that Devin Thomas had. And you know that "good" game that Banks had: it broke a franchise record for return yards. And he also scored a 96-yard touchdown (the first redskins punt or kickoff td return since 2006). His returns also lead to 15 other redskins points that game. Another 95-yard touchdown return was nullified by a penalty. So to call that game "a good game" is grossly understating it and his skills-- regardless of what you think of him in the lockerroom or off the field.

A Shanahan quote after that game: "If you weren't impressed with him, then you don't enjoy football."

I guess you don't enjoy football much.

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One word to describe Banks as a returner: Dangerous.

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[quote=warriorzpath;821582]One word to describe Banks as a returner: [B]Replaceable[/B].[/quote]

Fixed for better accuracy.

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Ha. that's funny. Replaceable by? Brian Mitchell, the all-time NFL record holder for return yards, whose franchise record he broke with the Lions game.

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I'm wait and see on banks. He was my favorite redskin for a while in the beginning of the year. Then he got hurt and played like junk the rest of the season. I think he isn't easily replaceable if he's playing at the top of his game, but if he played like he did down the stretch, I'd say so long. Different people respond differently to injuries, hopefully he will bounce back.

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A couple of years ago, Dominic Dorsey and Anthony Alridge were the little speedsters on the team. But neither did much, if anything, come the regular season. Last year, it was Banks (who had a great season for sure).

Who's to say that Aldrick Robinson can't be as exciting as Banks was last year, or as successful?

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[quote=SmootSmack;821590]A couple of years ago, Dominic Dorsey and Anthony Alridge were the little speedsters on the team. But neither did much, if anything, come the regular season. Last year, it was Banks (who had a great season for sure).

[B]Who's to say that Aldrick Robinson can't be as exciting as Banks was last year, or as successful?[/B][/quote]

He can, but why would you risk cutting Banks and having him do that against the redskins, when you already have that in Banks?

And actually I don't remember those other guys being on the same level as Banks.

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I'm actually with skinster. If he doesn't regain his top form last year, then cut him. But if he does regain that form, then you absolutely cannot.

We'll probably see as soon as the Steelers game.

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IMO you are allowed to be a specialty player for one year after that you have to learn more.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;821596]IMO you are allowed to be a specialty player for one year after that you have to learn more.[/quote]
I don't think you can underestimate the impact of a great return man. When I saw Banks get back near the kicking team's line of scrimmage a few times, I thought to myself that's almost like a recovered fumble, interception, or a defensive stop on 4th down.