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[quote=NC_Skins;824061]I also want to add, that I don't care if they use or not. If it were me and millions of dollars were on the line, I'd use it too.[/quote]

That's what I'm saying. Who cares if these guys are using? They put their bodies through pure hell, if they want to use something to help them recover quicker then so be it.

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[quote=skinsfan69;824040]Why is it that when I guy looks like a body builder it's automatically assumed that he's using? Does anyone around here actually lift, train and diet on a daily basis? Cause if any of you do then you would know that you can get pretty ripped just be dieting and training hard. [B]The media has really jaded a lot of people on steroids[/B].[/quote]

The coverage has merely increased w/the amount of real evidence, don't blame the media. Mainly in baseball & track & field, & also L. Armstrong has had to backpedal (pun intended) out of reports from former teamates that he juiced.

My dad thought in the 80s that steroid use was rampant. Ben Johnson et al that got disqualified in the olympics really brought it out, but it's taken a long time for the major leagues here to put in testing that could detect it.

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[quote=freddyg12;824104]The coverage has merely increased w/the amount of real evidence, don't blame the media. Mainly in baseball & track & field, & also L. Armstrong has had to backpedal (pun intended) out of reports from former teamates that he juiced.

My dad thought in the 80s that steroid use was rampant. Ben Johnson et al that got disqualified in the olympics really brought it out, but it's taken a long time for the major leagues here to put in testing that could detect it.[/quote]

Lance Armstrong might be able to back out though on a technicality. The alleged blood doping techniques he was accused of using haven't been proven yet. What Armstrong would be guilty of is attempting to cheat. Weather or not he succeeds depends on how successful blood doping turns out to be.

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any player who is average college ball player and who excells in NFL should be look at

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[quote=Mattyk;824050]I kinda fall under the camp of who cares. It's the NFL's job to police this, and they've generally done a good job at cleaning things up in recent years. Regardless of the policy there are always going to be guys who find a way to stay under the radar. And there are plenty of guys who get busted for unknowingly using banned substances too, so it's not always guys who are trying to cheat the system.

PB's suspension is likely related to weed, not a PED.[/quote]

I agree. As long as the games are exciting and entertaining I really dont care what the players are or arent taking.

General comment, Pittsburgh is successful because they know how to draft, never waste $ on big contracts players cant live up to, and most importantly have stability in coaching and schemes.

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[quote=irish;824131]i agree. As long as the games are exciting and entertaining i really dont care what the players are or arent taking.

[b]general comment, pittsburgh is successful because they know how to draft, never waste $ on big contracts players cant live up to, and most importantly have stability in coaching and schemes.[/quote][/b]

[b]exactly!!!!![/b]

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[quote=hooskins;824025]Giantone, where does he say that all players are cheating? He said "a lot". He also said in big bold text that it's an opinion.

No need to get upset.[/quote]

Not upset,read #16.find where I said he said .I said "implied"

IMPLIED= understood without being said
= to have as a logical consequence
= to give to understand,by implication

By just saying ..The Giants or the Ravens without names he has ....implicated the whole team.I fall in the group that really doesn't care but to think you can't get that big without it is very wrong.
I was lucky to play the game to a decent level and I saw guys who have and have'nt used ...things.
In 1 summer before college I ran ,lifted, ate 5 meals (good ones) a day and drank about 2 to 3 protein shakes a day,went from 215 to 255(a 36in waist) to start college ball.....with in 30 days was back down to 220-225.

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[quote=chico23231;823912]ed hochuli[/quote]

lol qft!

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If our players have been using god we are in trouble.

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[quote=firstdown;824487]If our players have been using god we are in trouble.[/quote]

HA! Though with Haynesworth's emotional problems I could easily see him having that issue

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Merriman might be in hot water again even before the new testing protocol begins.

[url=http://www.buffalosportsdaily.com/breaking-merriman-recently-busted-with-steroids/]Source: Merriman Recently Caught With Steroids : Buffalo Sports Daily[/url]

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[quote=wilsowilso;824692]Merriman might be in hot water even before the new testing protocol begins.

[url=http://www.buffalosportsdaily.com/breaking-merriman-recently-busted-with-steroids/]Source: Merriman Recently Caught With Steroids : Buffalo Sports Daily[/url][/quote]

That guy? [B][I]Nahh[/I][/B]. No way he uses steroids. :rolleyes:

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[quote=wilsowilso;824692]Merriman might be in hot water again even before the new testing protocol begins.

[URL="http://www.buffalosportsdaily.com/breaking-merriman-recently-busted-with-steroids/"]Source: Merriman Recently Caught With Steroids : Buffalo Sports Daily[/URL][/quote]

no question he's juicing.