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[quote=budw38;829032]You make some nice points SS . I hope he does alot of good with that $$$ , maybe help homeless/ rescue shelters ( Human and Animal ) I guess we will see what kind of man he is over the next few years .[/quote]

I imagine most of the money will go to pay off his enormous debts.

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[quote=Mattyk;829054]Just not sure what the rush was to lock him up. If I were the Eagles I would have made him prove himself another season. Prove he can stay healthy over 16 games, and not fade out after a hot start.[/quote]


Funny. I said the same thing about Laron Laundry. :cheeky-sm

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

[quote=NC_Skins;829061]Funny. I said the same thing about Laron Laundry. :cheeky-sm[/quote]

LL doesn't have the injury history Vick does, apples and oranges too as LL isn't going to get this kind of money.

But given the fact LL is still iffy health wise, I would wait. I would have waited til midseason at the earliest anyway.

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[QUOTE]MicheleSteele Michele Steele
by dkaplanSBJ
#Notmakingitrain: 40% of Mike Vick's massive contract goes to creditors & has to follow court-ordered budget until 2015 es.pn/fLwHcB
[/QUOTE]

Interesting article in the link, [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=munson/101202]Michael Vick's MVP-caliber season looks even better in light of off-field distractions he faces from his bankruptcy status, and a look at Anheuser-Busch's lawsuit against MLB - ESPN[/url]. As always, you might notice that the lawyers are the ones making a ton off of Vick.

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I was in grad school at VT when Vick had his magical year & our Hokies lost to FSU in the nat'l title, so a part of me is always pulling for him. Now he's w/the iggles so I can only root for him so much.

He's been almost as injury prone his whole career as he has been exciting. I think he peaked last year, and he also did that w/virtually no expectations. This year it's all on him & his team to win it all.

In his second year as starter in college, he was a SI cover boy in preseason. He hurt his ankle & couldn't go full strength v. Miami, and that was the team's only loss. I would be shocked if he's not hurt at some point in the season & misses some games. It really is a question of when.

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

was he overpaid? yes. Woulda just about any contract numbers made us say he is overpaid? yes. Do i really care what Vick makes? no

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

I think the contract ties the eagles into a long term deal with an injury waiting to happen...I am more than just okay with that!

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

Good for him. Glad he's turned his life around. He earned the raise. But I will never forgive what he did. Ever.

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Lest we forget that the NFL is an entertainment industry. Vick, love him or hate him, is a dynamic player who attracts viewers for and against him. A game with Vick in it, is a game that more people will watch, which in turns drives ratings, memorabilia sales, jersey sales, attendance, etc. His Q-factor is worth the $100M and Jeff Lurie knows this as well as anyone, as does Goodell, who certainly went out of his way to give Vick a leg up back into the league.

The NFL is a business, and Vick is a money maker regardless of whether he wins you the game. He earned his contract... maybe not purely based on "field-performance" but he earned it no doubt.

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

[quote=Mattyk;829054]Just not sure what the rush was to lock him up. If I were the Eagles I would have made him prove himself another season. Prove he can stay healthy over 16 games, and not fade out after a hot start.[/quote]

Wasn't Vick about to become an UFA after this season? If so, I guess the Eagles did not want Vick on the open market?
Since the Eagles traded DM and Kolb away, they essentially put all of their eggs in one basket. I believe they have not yet drafted the heir apparent. Vince Young is a huge gamble that may or may not pay off, but they do not have anyone else at that position. When it comes to Qb's the Eagles seem to have the old Joe Gibbs I ability to take almost any QB and have them be productive.
I agree that they paid too much guaranteed money for a 30+ QB.

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1009/michael.vick.rare.photos/content.1.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a5]Michael Vick - 2000 - Rare Photos of Michael Vick - Photos - SI.com[/url]

Pretty good look back through the career. The comeback is pretty damn impressive.

Gtripp favorite slide is 17

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

$100 million can buy a lot of dogs!!!!!!

;-)

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[quote=Jontrem;829078]I think the contract ties the eagles into a long term deal with an injury waiting to happen...I am more than just okay with that![/quote]

Agreed.

6yrs is a long time for a QB who makes his living with his legs. If I was Philly I would invest heavily in a top notch back up QB.

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[quote=Chico23231;829112][url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1009/michael.vick.rare.photos/content.1.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a5]Michael Vick - 2000 - Rare Photos of Michael Vick - Photos - SI.com[/url]

Pretty good look back through the career. The comeback is pretty damn impressive.

[B]Gtripp favorite slide is 17[/B][/quote]

:lol:

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[quote=kali3;829117]Agreed.

6yrs is a long time for a QB who makes his living with his legs. If I was Philly I would invest heavily in a top notch back up QB.[/quote]

They just traded one away. :D

No way he's able to finish out the 6 years. He may be playing in the latter years of the contract, but he may be forced to be more of a pocket passer than runner due to age and injuries...and won't be playing up to the level of his paycheck. He's a mediocre 55% career passer. He's also prone to mistakes with 66 fumbles and 58 INTs in his 80 career starts. Yes, he hits big plays but he also blows a lot of opportunities for his team, he's the ultimate gambler on the field. As he ages, the big play:mistake ratio will get uglier if he does not learn how to become a fundamental QB. Last year's passing stats are an anomaly over his career. We'll see if he can repeat them. Those numbers are also inflated due to his early hot start. Later in the season, his numbers were down. Consistency is not one of his traits.

Even last season, defenses were figuring out how to defend him and were really minimizing his success. He also has played 16 games ONLY ONCE since 2001.

Could this work out great short-term for Philly [SIZE=5]IF[/SIZE] he stays healthy? Absolutely. Will they get their 6 years of greatness? Most likely not.

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[quote=Chico23231;829112][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1009/michael.vick.rare.photos/content.1.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a5"]Michael Vick - 2000 - Rare Photos of Michael Vick - Photos - SI.com[/URL]

Pretty good look back through the career. The comeback is pretty damn impressive.

Gtripp favorite slide is 17[/quote]

I'm fond of slide #10...hope to see that again!

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[quote=Mattyk;829063]LL doesn't have the injury history Vick does, apples and oranges too as LL isn't going to get this kind of money.

But given the fact LL is still iffy health wise, I would wait. I would have waited til midseason at the earliest anyway.[/quote]

Landry has sustained a couple/few injures of concern (obviously the achilles most notably) so I'm not sure I'd call him injury prone yet...

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

[quote=Chico23231;829112][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1009/michael.vick.rare.photos/content.1.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a5"]Michael Vick - 2000 - Rare Photos of Michael Vick - Photos - SI.com[/URL]

Pretty good look back through the career. The comeback is pretty damn impressive.

Gtripp favorite slide is 17[/quote]


He looks high in photo 21

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

The guy is the most fun qb to watch of all time and one of the most exciting players of any position to watch. Last year when he started to really show that he has a extremely good and underrated arm and that he was willing to work hard to make good decision and become a complete qb mental and physically was awesome. The problem is i hate the egles more than any other team. But ive been a huge Vick fan since college. Its difficult for me to route against him, but as the QB of the eagles that’s all I will be able to do. I guess in a perfect world I would like him to have all sorts of great stats and highlights but have his team keep falling short. I like that the eagles overpaid him, because that’s bad for the eagles and good for Vick. I wonder if they continue to have oline problems (or end up with receiver problems) if he will follow the lead of other big time/money QBs and take a pay cut in order to bring in better o line help next year?

The guy is one of the most popular players in the league, and like all popular player he’s also one of the most hated (hatted) players too. I wonder how long until he gets a big endorsement deal….. its got to be coming soon.

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[quote=mlmpetert;829158]He looks high in photo 21[/quote]

Let Vick live, his been through alot.

That thing is next to him is super banging...he probably hit that too, lucky bastard

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[quote=SolidSnake84;829029]Please don't take this the wrong way, but I want to ask you a question? I am done debating on Vick and Prison and all that, but i have seen some of your posts about Vick, and i really get the assumption that you wouldn't feel as negatively about Vick if he had only killed a human being.

Not trying to judge dude at all, but I've talked to alot of these Michael Vick haters at my new job, and the consensus among them, is being that Animals now hold surperior rights to a human being (you know the animal bill of rights and constitution and all that), If Vick would have killed a person, be it in murder or drunk driving, he would have gotten off lighter in the eyes of the fans.

.[/quote]

If M.Vick had done to a human what he did to a dog he would be on death row.Also wether you like it or not some pet owners honestly feel their pet is their family and in some cases they are.If you're all Vicked out cool then don't respond but he is a sadistic dog killer and you just don't wake up one monrning a say "oh gee wiz ...maybe I should'nt do that".He apologized becuae he got caught.Remember these were dogs of his that had lost so he drowed them ....animals that could not fight back, oh yeah give him 100 mil and say good job.:soapbox:

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Very dumb, it is almost as bad as us with AH. To give the guy a contract this huge that is really based on what 6 games of great play last year is extremely risky to say the least. He choked come playoff time and reverted back to old ATL Vick with his mediocre passing game. Hasn't he thrown for more picks than Sexy Rexy this preseason?

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[quote=Chico23231;829163]Let Vick live, his been through alot.[/quote]

He's only been through a lot because he's brought it on himself. The hell with that notion. He deserves (and is justified) any scrutiny he gets.

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[quote=Chico23231;829163]Let Vick live, his been through alot.

That thing is next to him is super banging...he probably hit that too, lucky bastard[/quote]

That's my new mantra. Lvl brah, lvl

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He was set to make 16 mil this year so its really a 24 mil guaranted because that 16 mil would have gone directly against the cap anyways. After that no telling how much of that money he will ever see. I really don't care because he was going to be an Eagle this year no matter what. So now if he does not live up to the contract then it a plus to us.

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Good for him. I'm happy for Vick. I don't think he deserve that type of money because he only played six great games and didn't do all that well in the playoff. However, I'm happy that he was able to get his life together after making such a stupid mistake.

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[quote=Giantone;829166]If M.Vick had done to a human what he did to a dog he would be on death row.Also wether you like it or not some pet owners honestly feel their pet is their family and in some cases they are.If you're all Vicked out cool then don't respond but he is a sadistic dog killer and you just don't wake up one monrning a say "oh gee wiz ...maybe I should'nt do that".He apologized becuae he got caught.Remember these were dogs of his that had lost so he drowed them ....animals that could not fight back, oh yeah give him 100 mil and say good job.:soapbox:[/quote]
He didn't kill a human. He killed some animals. There sane person that could compare the two. As far as I'm concern what he did farmers do every single day. What he did is no different than people shooting defenseless animals, stuffing them, and hanging them out on their walls for decoration. Where is your outrage about that? I suggest you, pet owners, and non pet owners get the f**k over it. The man has paid his debt to society. He has turn his life around. Let him live in peace.

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[quote=Landry44;829267]He didn't kill a human. He killed some animals. There sane person that could compare the two. As far as I'm concern what he did farmers do every single day. What he did is no different than people shooting defenseless animals, stuffing them, and hanging them out on their walls for decoration. Where is your outrage about that? I suggest you, pet owners, and non pet owners get the f**k over it. The man has paid his debt to society. He has turn his life around. Let him live in peace.[/quote]You really don'r understand the difference between hunting and
and "farming" to torture and murder, that's pretty ignorant.He's a "DOG KILLER" .....not a hunter ,and not a farmer.

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[quote=Landry44;829267]He didn't kill a human. He killed some animals. There sane person that could compare the two. As far as I'm concern what he did farmers do every single day. What he did is no different than people shooting defenseless animals, stuffing them, and hanging them out on their walls for decoration. Where is your outrage about that? I suggest you, pet owners, and non pet owners get the f**k over it. The man has paid his debt to society. He has turn his life around. Let him live in peace.[/quote]

I think when you say farmers you really mean commercial feed lots. Anyone who has ever seen the inhumane conditions cows are made to endure in commercial feed lots (I have seen them in Nebraska) and has even a slight sense of compassion couldnt help but reconsider whether they should keep eating beef. That is as much a torture to cows as anything Vick did to his dogs.

On the $ side, there is no way Vick is worth that kind of $. He had a few good games and as usual tanked in the playoffs. Vick will never take a team all the way.

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I hope the iggles suffer for thier offseson activities, cant believe they havnt learned anything from watching CHainsaw Dan run the Skins. BTY i feel that AlvinWAltons thread is Pulitzer worthy, im just saying but if i had a vote............

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[quote=irish;829282]I think when you say farmers you really mean commercial feed lots. Anyone who has ever seen the inhumane conditions cows are made to endure in commercial feed lots (I have seen them in Nebraska) and has even a slight sense of compassion couldnt help but reconsider whether they should keep eating beef. That is as much a torture to cows as anything Vick did to his dogs.

On the $ side, there is no way Vick is worth that kind of $. He had a few good games and as usual tanked in the playoffs. Vick will never take a team all the way.[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Yeah i saw a documentary on pig "farmers" once. Some of the most inhuman things ive ever seen or heard of in that program, much more inhumane then anything that happened at bad newz. And pigs are generally considered smarter than dogs, so it is likely they would object to their treatment more so then dogs. [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]
I think something people refuse to acknowledge when it comes to certain kinds of animals is that there is a difference between pet animals and non-pet animals. The dogs Vick had wernt pets, they were sporting dogs. They wernt treated like Rover or my dog Freckles on the weekdays and then fought on the weekends, they were raised entirely different then a household pet. Similar to the pig documentary I saw, the pigs that were raised at the meat mill are raised differently than a pot belly pig your crazy neighbor may have. [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I don’t think what Vick did was right whatsoever; however, I think people need to distinguish the environmental differences between a household pet and a animal raised for sport or slaughter. Fighting your girlfriend’s Maltese against your neighbor’s Yorkie is different than fighting pitbulls breed and raised for sport. Both wrong, albeit different. It’s a emotional issue that’s difficult for some to grasp. Either way im not going to say anything more on this, I just think its important that people consider theres a difference. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]LVL[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[quote=Mc2guy;829095]Lest we forget that the NFL is an entertainment industry. Vick, love him or hate him, is a dynamic player who attracts viewers for and against him. A game with Vick in it, is a game that more people will watch, which in turns drives ratings, memorabilia sales, jersey sales, attendance, etc. His Q-factor is worth the $100M and Jeff Lurie knows this as well as anyone, as does Goodell, who certainly went out of his way to give Vick a leg up back into the league.

The NFL is a business, and Vick is a money maker regardless of whether he wins you the game. He earned his contract... maybe not purely based on "field-performance" but he earned it no doubt.[/quote]

Best post of this thread, but I would slightly disagree w/your last paragraph, he had a hell of a year last year. At the end he showed his flaws, but he still had a great year. I think he peaked, but the signing makes sense for a few reasons, including what you mention in 1st paragraph.

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

LVL with his 100 million...LVL

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According to Mike and Mike this morning, Vick owes $19 million from his bankruptcy.

40% of his earnings over $10 million automatically go to creditors. He owes $6 million to the Falcons too. IF he plays 5 years, he'll have his debts related to the bankruptcy paid off.

Of the $100 million, only $40 million is guaranteed. Cut that in half after taxes. $20 million earned...$19 million owed and will be paid by court order...haha.

He BETTER stay healthy for his sake, or he'll be in the poor house, or back in prison for not repaying debts.



He's dug his own financial grave. No sympathy. Atlanta gave him a $120 million contract and he had to file bankruptcy?

Instead of "celebrating a redemption story", I'm not going to be naive enough to think someone who (not a complete list I'm sure), was stopped in an airport for drugs, flipped off fans in the stands, murdered living creatures in an illegal gambling ring and apparently doesn't pay his debts is suddenly an upstanding citizen who suddenly has no blemishes in his personality and lifestyle after sitting in jail. You can bet he still has contact with his old circle of friends and followers and has temptations to slip back into his old lifestyle. What will having income again do to him? Sure, he's doing the mandated speaking tours on being nice to animals and having his agents and consultants write some noble sounding lines to spew in front of the cameras, but we can not seriously expect someone tied up in so many degenerate activities and with such a polarizing personality to suddenly do a complete 180. He may not be running or even showing up to dogfights, but who knows...is he having his friends just send him i-Phone videos so he can watch? Is he texting his bets in now, while appearing to be at a safe distance from the South's dogfights up here in PA? I'm not accusing him without basis, just wondering if he's honestly gone from a drug-using, animal-killing thug to a saint in a few short years. I'd like to believe he's a better person, but none of us know his personal life...just the PR side that the Eagles, media and the NFL want us to see.

We'll see if he can behave for the rest of his life. If he does, I'll be the first to praise him. However, I'm just not ready to celebrate and congratulate someone who did so much wrong while other players like Drew Brees and even lesser-noticed players like Lorenzo Alexander are genuinely good people doing great things in their community WITHOUT being forced by courts to do so, go generally unspoken about. Instead of fabricating some great "redemption story" about someone we want to be a role model but has been the polar opposite in every way, why don't we talk about and reward those who do what's right on their first try?

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

[quote=Monkeydad;829339]According to Mike and Mike this morning, Vick owes $19 million from his bankruptcy.

40% of his earnings over $10 million automatically go to creditors. He owes $6 million to the Falcons too. IF he plays 5 years, he'll have his debts related to the bankruptcy paid off.

Of the $100 million, only $40 million is guaranteed. Cut that in half after taxes. $20 million earned...$19 million owed and will be paid by court order...haha.

He BETTER stay healthy for his sake, or he'll be in the poor house, or back in prison for not repaying debts.



He's dug his own financial grave. No sympathy.[/quote]

He's back w/Nike though & even if his agent his half assed at getting deals for him, he'll make some good money w/endorsements. He'll never be that big time Q rating guy like Jordan, but he should be able to set himself up pretty well.

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[quote=Monkeydad;829339]According to Mike and Mike this morning, Vick owes $19 million from his bankruptcy.

40% of his earnings over $10 million automatically go to creditors. He owes $6 million to the Falcons too. IF he plays 5 years, he'll have his debts related to the bankruptcy paid off.

Of the $100 million, only $40 million is guaranteed. Cut that in half after taxes. $20 million earned...$19 million owed and will be paid by court order...haha.

He BETTER stay healthy for his sake, or he'll be in the poor house, or back in prison for not repaying debts.



He's dug his own financial grave. No sympathy. Atlanta gave him a $120 million contract and he had to file bankruptcy?

Instead of "celebrating a redemption story", I'm not going to be naive enough to think someone who (not a complete list I'm sure), was stopped in an airport for drugs, flipped off fans in the stands, murdered living creatures in an illegal gambling ring and apparently doesn't pay his debts is suddenly an upstanding citizen who suddenly has no blemishes in his personality and lifestyle after sitting in jail. You can bet he still has contact with his old circle of friends and followers and has temptations to slip back into his old lifestyle. What will having income again do to him? Sure, he's doing the mandated speaking tours on being nice to animals and having his agents and consultants write some noble sounding lines to spew in front of the cameras, but we can not seriously expect someone tied up in so many degenerate activities and with such a polarizing personality to suddenly do a complete 180. He may not be running or even showing up to dogfights, but who knows...is he having his friends just send him i-Phone videos so he can watch? Is he texting his bets in now, while appearing to be at a safe distance from the South's dogfights up here in PA? I'm not accusing him without basis, just wondering if he's honestly gone from a drug-using, animal-killing thug to a saint in a few short years. I'd like to believe he's a better person, but none of us know his personal life...just the PR side that the Eagles, media and the NFL want us to see.

We'll see if he can behave for the rest of his life. If he does, I'll be the first to praise him. However, I'm just not ready to celebrate and congratulate someone who did so much wrong while other players like Drew Brees and even lesser-noticed players like Lorenzo Alexander are genuinely good people doing great things in their community WITHOUT being forced by courts to do so, go generally unspoken about. Instead of fabricating some great "redemption story" about someone we want to be a role model but has been the polar opposite in every way, why don't we talk about and reward those who do what's right on their first try?[/quote]

If I'm correct if he owes 19 mil then he did not go bankrupt because if he did he would not owe all that money.

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people are entitled to hate vick for what he did, regardless of whether he did his time or seems to have gotten his life back together. people have a right to have an opinion one way or the other.

i dont see how someone who hates vick for killing dogs means they value a dogs life more than a humans. i hate vick for what he did, id boo and curse him given the chance. i think vick did enough time in jail, the sentence was fair imo, doesnt mean i cant hate the guy for what he did. doesnt mean vick will care one iota for how some skins fan or anyone feels about him. besides, he knowingly gives girls herpes, not cool either.

im pretty sure i stopped posting on here for awhile in a vick discussion a year or so ago b/c of peoples reactions on this subject.

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[quote=freddyg12;829343]He's back w/Nike though & even if his agent his half assed at getting deals for him, he'll make some good money w/endorsements. He'll never be that big time Q rating guy like Jordan, but he should be able to set himself up pretty well.[/quote]

I'm absolutley shocked that Nike would sign him. There's a heck of a lot more dog lovers out there than Eagles fans. I cant see how this doesnt hurt a company like Nike more than help them.

Unless of course Vick's deal with Nike is a Jersey Shore Abercrombie and Fitch thing were the sponsor is paying Vick NOT to wear their logos!

It's one thing for him to get minor local endorsement deals in the Philly area (Philly fans would most likely root for Osama bin Laden if he could have a 110 QB rating for them) its quite another for a convicted dog killer to get a national sponsorship deal.

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It won't last the whole season, but the eagles may win some early games because the officials may be giving them the jordanlike calls- because of the whole dream team thing. The game against the browns, they were given two calls from the refs that went their way. An off. pass interference penalty in favor of asomugha that nullified a big pass play. And another on a roughing the qb penalty that nullified vicks interception.

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

[quote=Giantone;829279]You really don'r understand the difference between hunting and
and "farming" to torture and murder, that's pretty ignorant.He's a "DOG KILLER" .....not a hunter ,and not a farmer.[/quote] Hunters shoot innocent animals that can't defend themselves just to hang them up as trophies. Farmers kill animals for financial gains. At the end of the day those animals are dead. It really matter why or how they were killed. The point is Mike Vick served his time and he has a right to move on with his life. You should try moving on with yours.