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polywog 09-12-2011 07:41 AM

Re: Scud's Studs Week 1 (Giants at Redskins)
 
[quote=mlmdub130;834811]i gotta disagree about grossman, he had a decent game but far from being a stud. your saying he stood in there and took some hits to make throws, where i think all he is doing is holding on to the ball way to long just like old rex, which leads to multiple sacks for losses and fumbles. and as fot the gun slinger mentality that would be awesome if he could throw the deep ball. that pass that was short to moss was a td all day long, he just threw a god awful pass.

that said i still think he had a pretty decent game it's just uneasy seeing him revert to his old self and make the same dumb plays we all knew he eventually would.[/quote]

He was under some serious pressure and was often throwing off his back foot. Rex made mostly very good decisions and was for the most part, spot-on with his throws.

Very often, a defender was RIGHT IN Grossman's face, a lesser man would have left the game with a concussion.

Beck would have chucked several Int's.

Rex certainly out played Eli.

CrustyRedskin 09-12-2011 08:09 AM

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[quote=polywog;834807]I did not hear Otogwe's name the entire game......I was pretty hammered, though!

That's kind of amazing as I'm used to our free safety being referred to as "toast."[/quote]

I bet you heard Reed Doughty's though cause he was BALLIN!!!!!

skinsfan69 09-12-2011 08:49 AM

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[quote=mlmdub130;834811]i gotta disagree about grossman, he had a decent game but far from being a stud. your saying he stood in there and took some hits to make throws, where i think all he is doing is holding on to the ball way to long just like old rex, which leads to multiple sacks for losses and fumbles. and as fot the gun slinger mentality that would be awesome if he could throw the deep ball. that pass that was short to moss was a td all day long, he just threw a god awful pass.

that said i still think he had a pretty decent game it's just uneasy seeing him revert to his old self and make the same dumb plays we all knew he eventually would.[/quote]

He had a few bad plays...the fumble and the back to back sacks that put us out of FG position. I thought Kyle could've helped him out there w/ a run on 2nd down and then maybe a screen on 3rd. Gotta take a possible 3 there to go up 10. But overall Rex did a real nice job hanging in there cause he was under pressure all day long.

skinsfan69 09-12-2011 08:50 AM

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[quote=GTripp0012;834757]I'm adding one.

Jim Haslett has now made awesome halftime adjustments three straight times against the Giants. The only difference was that we weren't down by a touchdown plus at the half in a way so that the damage was already done. We played them even for a half, then blew them off the field in the second half. Eli Manning is a very good player who flat out struggled to move the ball in the second half. For the third consecutive game against us.

If not for the offense in the first half, we're not even in it, but the defense won the game in the second half.[/quote]

X2. Held them scoreless in the 2nd half and 1/10 on 3rd down. Great job there by Haslett.

MTK 09-12-2011 09:15 AM

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For all the crap he took last year, Haslett definitely deserves a tip of the cap today.

MTK 09-12-2011 09:17 AM

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/chris-cooley-sets-career-record-for-catches-by-redskins-tight-end/2011/09/11/gIQAwR9hLK_blog.html?wprss=football-insider]Chris Cooley sets career record for catches by Redskins tight end - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]

Nice career mark by Cooley. Hopefully he can get that knee healed up because he sure didn't look like himself out there yesterday.

Chico23231 09-12-2011 09:28 AM

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This was a team effort which is how I want us to win every week. The gameballs coulda gone to Rex, Davis, Neild, but I went with Kerrigan because it was the play that changed the game. Its a type of play you'll never forget.

Lotus 09-12-2011 09:29 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;834862][url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/chris-cooley-sets-career-record-for-catches-by-redskins-tight-end/2011/09/11/gIQAwR9hLK_blog.html?wprss=football-insider]Chris Cooley sets career record for catches by Redskins tight end - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]

Nice career mark by Cooley. Hopefully he can get that knee healed up because he sure didn't look like himself out there yesterday.[/quote]

That actually makes me a little sad since Jerry Smith was a hero of mine when I was a young boy. It's still excellent for Cooley, though, who deserves records and accolades.

polywog 09-12-2011 09:33 AM

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;834822]I bet you heard Reed Doughty's though cause he was BALLIN!!!!![/quote]

I purposely avoided gloating after the Giants got stomped, but I kind of figured that the "doughty sucks" crowd would show up in force to rub his bad play[s] in my face, though.

Good job!

Not going to get into bashing Landry, as he is the new "sacred cow" of Skins fans everywhere.

I like posting here at the Warpath....I don't want to blow it.


[quote=Chico23231;834867]This was a team effort which is how I want us to win every week. The gameballs coulda gone to Rex, Davis, Neild, but I went with Kerrigan because it was the play that changed the game. Its a type of play you'll never forget.[/quote]

The Redskins players seamed to be having the time of their lives....high-fiveing each other and full of exuberance. Reminded me of Gibbs 1.

Chico23231 09-12-2011 09:49 AM

Re: Scud's Studs Week 1 (Giants at Redskins)
 
My Studs:

Rex: really played well and did so under some pretty heavy pressure and inconsistent play by our Oline and drops by our receivers

D Hall and Josh Wilson: were superb. Really good game by both. Wilson really showed he can cover.

The Rookies: Kerrigan and Neild were game changers. Neild needs to be in the rotation, maybe second half guy who comes in after the interior has been worn down by Coefield, because the Gaints Oline looked exhasted by the mid-third quarter.

Sav the Punter: No one ever talks special teams, but he was great.

Only several penalties by the team was just so impressive. Discipline by Shanny is too thank for that.

SKINSnCANES 09-12-2011 09:53 AM

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I put other for Nield. Two sacks and a forced fumble for a guy that no one thought would make the team ended up making a big difference. No offense to Cofield but Nield just looks fast out there, and hungry. I think he needs to get more reps.

hooskins 09-12-2011 09:53 AM

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Although he didn't make any highlight reels or TDs, Moss came up huge with some nice first down catches.

SmootSmack 09-12-2011 10:09 AM

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Good point on Moss. In fact, I think all his receptions were for first downs

MTK 09-12-2011 10:09 AM

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Yeah Moss was pretty clutch, and Rex just missed him on what would have been a big play.

mlmpetert 09-12-2011 10:27 AM

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I gave my vote to Davis. HUGE game for him. Chris Nield was pretty awesome too, in fact the dline was awesome, i thought they were just supposed to make plays for the linebackers??? Everyone on the front 7 played awesome![/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Grossman looked pretty good but had 3 series in a row towards the end of the game where we were all got pretty nervous. The back to back sacks for huge losses, the pass he kind of just tossed up in the middle of the field to avoid a sack and fumble for a loss. All while we had the ball towards the end of the game. He played well though especially when you consider it was his first time on the field in 2 weeks. He could be really good for us and im excited to see him continue to develop[/FONT][/COLOR]
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JoeRedskin 09-12-2011 10:27 AM

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[quote=SKINSnCANES;834878]I put other for Nield. Two sacks and a forced fumble[B] for a guy that no one thought would make the team[/B] ended up making a big difference. No offense to Cofield but Nield just looks fast out there, and hungry. I think he needs to get more reps.[/quote]

Actually, I had him (and I think a lot of others) thought this guy was a great pick who had a real shot to be on the team. Admittedly, the early reports on the guy didn't seem to be too encouraging and making it seem he was a real project with Selvish Capers type prospects.

He showed a lot more burst and instinct than I think anyone credited him for. I have looked at any replays to see if he was the space-eater that I thought he could be. Keim's one comment was that he seemed immovable which works for me.

Also, Nield was only in the game for 10 snaps. Nice impact for such short playing time.

[As I understand it, of our draftees, Nield, Kerrigan, Paul, Helu, Gomes and Thompson were active. I heard Paul's name called on ST once and Helu got a couple snaps. Any other rookie work happen?]

While lots of guys played well, I am not going to single any one out - Damn good team ball and so nice to see credit being given to players by players (Orakpo on Kerrigan, Cofield on Nield, Grossman on Davis). As someone said yesterday, it was good to root for a team that actually looked competitive.

One down, 15 to go. I stand by my 10 - 12 win prediction.

Monkeydad 09-12-2011 10:30 AM

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Kerrigan. His big TD really put the Giants in the grave. Our D was a stone wall after that play. 5 tackles too.

The rookies on D had incredible debuts. Kerrigan with 5 tackles, 1 INT for a TD and Chris Neild had 1.5 sacks and 2 tackles as a backup NT.

JoeRedskin 09-12-2011 10:30 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;834889]Yeah Moss was pretty clutch, and Rex just missed him on what would have been a big play.[/quote]

I think it's been mentioned before, but his move to get the 1st on the 4th & 5 play was just sweet. He knew he was short and wasted no motion to get the first before he could be hit. I have seen many a WR dick around on that type of catch and come up just short. Moss secured the ball and was almost immediately beyond the marker. Very nice.

jbcjr14 09-12-2011 10:31 AM

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I gave the nod to Grossman because he followed up a fumble with a 70 yard TD drive. Bounces back and takes the team down the field with a hell of a throw to Gaffney for the score.

mlmpetert 09-12-2011 10:36 AM

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I want to add Second Half Effort to the stud list. Great to see the team step it up and not settle down!

mredskins 09-12-2011 10:37 AM

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Where is the crazy aceinthhouse guy this year? with his 14-2 predication?

Chico23231 09-12-2011 10:51 AM

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[quote=mredskins;834911]Where is the crazy aceinthhouse guy this year? with his 14-2 predication?[/quote]

lol no doubt...im waiting for his "if this, then this" analysis on how we make the playoffs after the first weekend.

Ruhskins 09-12-2011 11:03 AM

I liked the fact that the team was able to overcome a couple of setbacks (drops, missed FGs, and the lost fumble) that in previous years would have completely doomed us.

Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G.

polywog 09-12-2011 11:12 AM

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[quote=mlmpetert;834910]I want to add Second Half Effort to the stud list. Great to see the team step it up and not settle down![/quote]

I love the fact that Rex was still chuck'in the ball, even with a sizable lead.

mlmpetert 09-12-2011 01:56 PM

Re: Scud's Studs Week 1 (Giants at Redskins)
 
[quote=SKINSnCANES;834878]I put other for Nield. Two sacks and a forced fumble for a guy that no one thought would make the team ended up making a big difference. No offense to Cofield but Nield just looks fast out there, and hungry. I think he needs to get more reps.[/quote]


Yeah im changing my vote to Neild. Someone else mentioned his 2 sacks and a FF came from only 10 defensive plays he was in for. A nose tackel getting 2 sacks and a FF is stright up badass and more impressive then what Kerrigan did yesterday in my opinion. Hopefully this wasnt a Chris Horton Saints game 1 time thing and he will be able to keep it up.

MTK 09-12-2011 01:58 PM

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It's a multiple choice poll fellas.

skinsfan69 09-12-2011 02:15 PM

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I give it to Grossman for standing in there under some serious duress and throwing some really nice passes. Yeah me missed some, and he fumbled and took some sacks, but most QB's would've done the same thing, under those circumstances. Well done Rex!

Monkeydad 09-12-2011 02:18 PM

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Rex fumbled in a spectacular way that only he can do it. :D

Great game otherwise...he should have easily had 350-370 yards passing without some big drops on deep passes...and a nice play by Phillips on Armstrong.

skinsfan69 09-12-2011 02:18 PM

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[quote=mlmpetert;835019]Yeah im changing my vote to Neild. Someone else mentioned his 2 sacks and a FF came from only 10 defensive plays he was in for. A nose tackel getting 2 sacks and a FF is stright up badass and more impressive then what Kerrigan did yesterday in my opinion. Hopefully this wasnt a Chris Horton Saints game 1 time thing and he will be able to keep it up.[/quote]

I agree! This no name 7th rounder came in and caused some havoc! I was surprised that they released Bryant but now I see why. I want to see more of this guy.

Stuck in TX 09-12-2011 03:10 PM

Re: Scud's Studs Week 1 (Giants at Redskins)
 
Ryan Kerrigan. One word: momentum.

Mechanix544 09-12-2011 05:39 PM

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totally hyped to see this team do great things........ I think after all the change and drama that has come along with that change, the players will react very well to winning some games. Who would have thought we could start the season out 2-0? Hold on to yer knickers gents, this team could be heading to the playoffs..........Im just sayin........

Mechanix544 09-12-2011 05:41 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;834929]I liked the fact that the team was able to overcome a couple of setbacks (drops, missed FGs, and the lost fumble) that in previous years would have completely doomed us.

Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G.[/quote]

Exactly. That field goal goes in and one of those passes get completed, and we are looking at a bonafide blow out. And we are not the ones getting pummeled!!!!! How long has it been since that has happened? I remember a time not so long ago where we couldnt get over the 18 point hump........glad to see that shouldnt be the case this season.

SmootSmack 09-13-2011 01:17 AM

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[url=http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2011/09/giants_vs_redskins_barry_cofie.html]Barry Cofield[/url]

CultBrennan59 09-13-2011 01:59 AM

Re: Scud's Studs Week 1 (Giants at Redskins)
 
[quote=SKINSnCANES;834878]I put other for Nield. Two sacks and a forced fumble for a guy that no one thought would make the team ended up making a big difference. No offense to Cofield but Nield just looks fast out there, and hungry. I think he needs to get more reps.[/quote]

Neild played only 10 snaps. You put Neild in the time Cofield played and Cofield in the time Neild played and we'd be talking cofield up as a 3 sack NT. Neilds reps should increase from 10 to 15 but thats it.

My studs

Kerrigan. Welcome to the NFL rook.
Fletcher
Second half Rex
Orakpo and his right hand
Gaffney
Josh Wilson and DHall for not having their names called in a negative way
the giants Kevin Gilbride for practically handing us the game by calling an awful gameplan in the second half

GTripp0012 09-13-2011 02:33 AM

Re: Scud's Studs Week 1 (Giants at Redskins)
 
[quote=Monkeydad;835040]Rex fumbled in a spectacular way that only he can do it. :D

Great game otherwise...he should have easily had 350-370 yards passing without some big drops on deep passes...and a nice play by Phillips on Armstrong.[/quote]I probably would have gone with Grossman if not for the awful fumble that probably should have changed the course of the game, until the defense stepped up and did something about it (unless you count the GB game last season, it's been four years since anyone can say those words).

There was a lot of great performances to pick from this week, but I narrowed it down to Fletcher and Moss and ultimately voted for Fletcher. He's just too good on a play by play basis. You throw out the play where Ballard beat him down the seam, and you're talking about one of his best games as a Redskin. And it's been quite a five year career here. And Kerrigan was really good too. But you talk about a complete game, you can't miss what the old man was doing out there.

Orakpo was quiet. That's all I'll say about his performance.

budw38 09-13-2011 07:19 AM

Re: Scud's Studs Week 1 (Giants at Redskins)
 
Orakpo was quiet , however I heard that he sprained an ankle early in the game and had it heavily taped ?

Monkeydad 09-13-2011 09:42 AM

Re: Scud's Studs Week 1 (Giants at Redskins)
 
[quote=budw38;835294]Orakpo was quit , however I heard that he sprained an ankle early in the game and had it heavily taped ?[/quote]


Not sure what you're saying about him being "quit" but he played. He was held all game but was the one who blocked the FG.

hooskins 09-13-2011 09:52 AM

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There was some sort of injury to Orakpo, but as per ESPN 980, it was very minor and he should be ready to go for AZ.

Jontrem 09-13-2011 09:57 AM

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Yeah I think he meant Quiet, not quit. A lot of what Orakpo does (other than when he actually gets to the QB) does not show up on the box score. He draws double teams, chips from TEs and RBs and holding calls(this needs to be called more obviously) and pressures the QB into early/bad throws.

At times I would like to see him try to use his strength more than his speed....but I am 1000% positive that he knows what he is doing better than I do!

Lotus 09-13-2011 10:03 AM

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[quote=hooskins;835345]There was some sort of injury to Orakpo, but as per ESPN 980, it was very minor and he should be ready to go for AZ.[/quote]

Sprained ankle.

[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/nfl/2011/09/redskins-notes-different-aura-hightowers-guarantee#ixzz1XprvrSD3]Redskins notes: Different aura; Hightower's guarantee | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner[/url]


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