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[quote=GMScud;857896]I'll still watch the Skins during the rest of this season, but without any emotion for the most part. [B]I'm not gonna lie, a small part of me hopes we lose out so we can get the best QB possible...[/B]

They are definitely a bad team. I'm cautiously optimistic about the future, but I certainly have no hope for this season other than to watch some of our young guys develop.[/quote]

Right now there are eight teams that have records worse than ours: Indy, Miami, Jacksonville, Cleveland, Denver, St. Louis, Arizona, Minnesota, Carolina, and Seattle. Now, who knows where everybody will wind up. Of those teams, only Carolina, Cleveland, St. Louis and Jacksonville won't take quarterbacks with their first pick.

So, true to form, the Redskins will do just well enough to miss out on possibly the top three QBs coming out in the draft, unless one of those teams gets on a winning streak. I see the Redskins winning maybe one or two more games barring some sort of miraculous turn-around for Beck or Grossman.

We'll have to package some picks to move up.

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a horrible bad team deserves a horrible bad thread I guess

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[quote=saden1;857886]I can't stand to watch another minute of Redskins football. I guess what I am trying to say is that I have given up on the season....you? I'm guessing probably since my attempt to sell two LL tickets to the 49ers game below face value resulted in no takers... fortunately my brother in-law's sons enjoy getting free tickets and going to FedEx for the atmosphere.


p.s. Message me if you're interested in buying tickets to the Patriots or Jets game and if you like being punched in the gut you can have both. I will give you a good deal.[/quote]

Do you have tix to the Seattle game? I've always wanted to see a game there.

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[quote=saden1;857886]

p.s. Message me if you're interested in buying tickets to the Patriots or Jets game and if you like being punched in the gut you can have both. I will give you a good deal.[/quote]

Im pretty sure ive said this several times on here throughout the seasons . . the one benefit to being a skins fan is that you get offered free tickets after the halfway point of the season. just like with the Os were you buy a $9 ticket and go sit in the $45 seats . .

but i wouldnt give up on the pats or jets game. if the skins pull out a win, your going to miss a really awesome experience . . theres always that punchers chance and to be there live in action .. a win in either of those games would be a great fan experience.

ive been a debbie entering this season so i actually thought our record would be worse but dang man . . . the games have had 0 entertainment factor, dare i say, atleast with rex he put the ball up there.

beck is like being bedridden slowly dying of cancer
rex is like being drunk and running into traffic

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#1- I don't know why but the title bothers me. Lol. Horrible bad? I'm not an English teacher, far from it especially since I always hated English but I think "Horribly Bad is more appropriate.

#2- I can't believe you faithless sons of guns. I mean come on KS has a better idea of Becks abilities now and both are going to set this thing on fire and start winning games.

:)

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[quote=SBXVII;858034]#1- I don't know why but the title bothers me. Lol. Horrible bad? I'm not an English teacher, far from it especially since I always hated English but I think "Horribly Bad is more appropriate.

#2- I can't believe you faithless sons of guns. I mean come on KS has a better idea of Becks abilities now and both are going to set this thing on fire and start winning games.

:)[/quote]


It's suppose to be a horrible bad title. I lost my faith when i saw Beck take a sack on a wide open naked bootleg. I think we are justified.

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For me, just once this year I want a GOOD record to be set in a win. Like I want Helu or Choice or WHOEVER to rush for a single game franchise record. Or I want Leonard Hankerson to catch 4 TDs to have the most single-game TDs as a rookie. ANYTHING like that.

I know that sounds far-fetched, but I get so tired of records being set against us in a bad way.

Hell, someone could pick up Vernon Gholston and he'd get 10 sacks in a day against us.

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[quote=saden1;858040]It's suppose to be a horrible bad title. I lost my faith when i saw Beck take a sack on a wide open naked bootleg. I think we are justified.[/quote]

I took it to mean they are horrible at being bad. I mean look at the Colts. They're doing it the right way. None of this middle of the road stuff. No they're well on their way to 0-16. When they're good, they're good. When they're bad, they're better

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[quote=SmootSmack;858045]I took it to mean they are horrible at being bad. I mean look at the Colts. They're doing it the right way. None of this middle of the road stuff. No they're well on their way to 0-16. When they're good, they're good. When they're bad, they're better[/quote]

LOL. Part of me is like, "Come on now, it's obvious you want Luck." Like I don't understand how you have multiple Pro Bowlers on that team and missing a single guy makes that much of a difference.

Sure, Peyton is like a coach on the field, but srsly?!

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;858043]For me, just once this year I want a GOOD record to be set in a win. Like I want Helu or Choice or WHOEVER to rush for a single game franchise record. Or I want Leonard Hankerson to catch 4 TDs to have the most single-game TDs as a rookie. ANYTHING like that.

I know that sounds far-fetched, but I get so tired of records being set against us in a bad way.

Hell, someone could pick up Vernon Gholston and he'd get 10 sacks in a day against us.[/quote]Gano - Longest Redskins field goal over. Done and done.

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[quote=SmootSmack;858045]I took it to mean they are horrible at being bad. I mean look at the Colts. They're doing it the right way. None of this middle of the road stuff. No they're well on their way to 0-16. When they're good, they're good. When they're bad, they're better[/quote]

It's up to the reader to give it meaning. I like your take.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;858043]For me, just once this year I want a GOOD record to be set [SIZE=7]in a win[/SIZE]. Like I want Helu or Choice or WHOEVER to rush for a single game franchise record. Or I want Leonard Hankerson to catch 4 TDs to have the most single-game TDs as a rookie. ANYTHING like that.

I know that sounds far-fetched, but I get so tired of records being set against us in a bad way.

Hell, someone could pick up Vernon Gholston and he'd get 10 sacks in a day against us.[/quote]

:(

That being said, I was amped to see him kick almost a 60!

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And silly me thought that was going to be the catalyst behind our inevitable comeback that day!

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;858047]LOL. Part of me is like, "Come on now, it's obvious you want Luck." Like I don't understand how you have multiple Pro Bowlers on that team and missing a single guy makes that much of a difference.

Sure, Peyton is like a coach on the field, but srsly?![/quote]

Their defense was also built around Manning. They dared their opponents to try and keep up with their offense. It was designed to give up scores, but the most time-consuming manner possible. When the opposing O had to abandon their run, Freeney and Mathis could then start teeing off on the opposing QB.

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[quote=SBXVII;858034]#1- I don't know why but the title bothers me. Lol. Horrible bad? I'm not an English teacher, far from it especially since I always hated English but I think "Horribly Bad is more appropriate.

#2- [B]I can't believe you faithless sons of guns. I mean come on KS has a better idea of Becks abilities now and both are going to set this thing on fire and start winning games.[/B]

:)[/quote]

Denial...ain't just a river in Egypt my friend.

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[quote=GMScud;857896][B]I'll still watch the Skins during the rest of this season, but without any emotion for the most part. I'm not gonna lie, a small part of me hopes we lose out so we can get the best QB possible...[/B]

They are definitely a bad team. I'm cautiously optimistic about the future, but I certainly have no hope for this season other than to watch some of our young guys develop.[/quote]

This is exactly how I feel. I was saying before the season, SUCK FOR LUCK. People here say you don't throw a season, but really whats the difference/point if your already that bad... :confused:

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[quote=The Goat;858071]Denial...ain't just a river in Egypt my friend.[/quote]

Lol. "If you really knew me....." you'd know I was being sarcastic.;) I originally had little faith that Beck would do much better. With the OL missing players and the WR's really not stepping up Grossman either I couldn't see much changing.

But it was fun throwing it all back at the Beck fans who were so adamant that he was our problem solver. Haha.

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Look, I am just as pissed as the next guy to lose a game. But what we as Redskins fan have to look at is, are we headed in the right direction. Redskin fans have been buying into the hype for better part of 12 years that this is going to be our year. Spending ridiculous amounts of money on worthless players. These things have been debated to death. Throwing the draft picks out the window year after year.

What I am pleased with is the progress on both sides of the ball, personel wise. Young players at key positions, building depth, and mixing in some personel that actually fit into the system.

I am excited of the potential this team has in 2 or 3 years.

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I think the plague of injuries to Cooley, T. Willimansm, Moss, Buchannan,Jenkins, and most importantly Tim Hightower took the air out of the offense. Beck looks lethargic and has no grasp of the offense at all. He's missed the big plays down the field and its cost us 4 losses as a result.

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why is this in the "Redskins Gear" forum?

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Hadn't even noticed. Maybe because he was trying to sell tix as well?

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[quote=SUNRA;858096]I think the plague of injuries to Cooley, T. Willimansm, Moss, Buchannan,Jenkins, and most importantly Tim Hightower took the air out of the offense. Beck looks lethargic and has no grasp of the offense at all. He's missed the big plays down the field and its cost us 4 losses as a result.[/quote]


Nope, as was said to me after the first game, ....injuries are no excuse ...all teams have them and must deal with them, "players need to step up".

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;858062]Their defense was also built around Manning. They dared their opponents to try and keep up with their offense. It was designed to give up scores, but the most time-consuming manner possible. When the opposing O had to abandon their run, Freeney and Mathis could then start teeing off on the opposing QB.[/quote]

Their defense is exactly why they didn't win more Super Bowls. It sucked. (especially when Bob Sanders was missing)

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[quote=Giantone;858113]Nope, as was said to me after the first game, ....injuries are no excuse ...all teams have them and must deal with them, "players need to step up".[/quote]

true

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[quote=Giantone;858113]Nope, as was said to me after the first game, ....injuries are no excuse ...all teams have them and must deal with them, "players need to step up".[/quote]

It's the FO's job to have competent reserves in place. Failing to maintain a certain level performance after an injury shows a failure to do that job.

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[quote=mlmpetert;857917]I dont mind not going back to Grossman, but it really depresses me we didnt at least have another option. How can a nfl coach not have a developmental 3rd qb to give a shot if, in the off chance, 2qbs named Beck and Grossman somehow didnt work out.....[/quote]

We should have kept Clemens and cut Banks or Austin as hindsight is 20/20. I don't think Clemens would have been a barnburner either, but at least another option.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;858127]It's the FO's job to have competent reserves in place. Failing to maintain a certain level performance after an injury shows a failure to do that job.[/quote]

In other words, our new GM is in over his head.

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[quote=#56fanatic;858085]Look, I am just as pissed as the next guy to lose a game. But what we as Redskins fan have to look at is, are we headed in the right direction. Redskin fans have been buying into the hype for better part of 12 years that this is going to be our year. Spending ridiculous amounts of money on worthless players. These things have been debated to death. Throwing the draft picks out the window year after year.

What I am pleased with is the progress on both sides of the ball, personel wise. Young players at key positions, building depth, and mixing in some personel that actually fit into the system.

I am excited of the potential this team has in 2 or 3 years.[/quote]


Listen to yourself, and think back to the first year of every new coach we have had since Gibbs retired the first time. Even with Zorn everyone was initially excited about the new regime. The whole thing(meaning franchise) is HYPE. You don't think Shanny and Allen could be all hype after all that we have experienced since the Cooks lost the team?

[QUOTE=GusFrerotte;858129]In other words, our new GM is in over his head.[/QUOTE]

No, in other words our previous "GM" was so incompetent and big name hungry that our salary cap situation left no option for bringing in competent back up players and our new FO knows that when you build, you do it one step at a time. Regardless of basic fan stupidity(just to be cleared not calling anyone here stupid )

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;858141]No, in other words our previous "GM" was so incompetent and big name hungry that our salary cap situation left no option for bringing in competent back up players and our new FO knows that when you build, you do it one step at a time. Regardless of basic fan stupidity(just to be cleared not calling anyone here stupid )[/quote]

I can see the reasoning in not caring about the first two years of the new regime and chalk them up to pure rebuilding, but this is totally regressive and smacks of a FO that might not be entirely stable. Case in point, bringing in McNabb, only to toss him out within the space of less than one season. They knew we had junk at Qb so they did the bold move to acquire McNabb and get Grossman as the backup. Rail against Donovan all you want, but he was a lot better last season than Beck or Grossman this season. IF they were going to do a Dive for a Top 5 or Suck for Luck type thing, why bother even getting McNabb if they didn't care about winning now? Do you see my point. Why get a top FA QB and lose draft picks if you already know you have squat to work with, and will lose with the FA QB. Sorry, but that is a Vinny type move to me!!!!!!

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[quote=Giantone;858113]Nope, as was said to me after the first game, ....injuries are no excuse ...all teams have them and must deal with them, "players need to step up".[/quote]

Still the injuries affected your team, hence our win (now looking back). For our team the injuries is just one of the list of things that is wrong with this team.

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[quote=Giantone;858113]Nope, as was said to me after the first game, ....injuries are no excuse ...all teams have them and must deal with them, "players need to step up".[/quote]

Amen. As long as we are in the rebuilding mode, having a group of young guys stepping in now builds very quality depth. The returns on the experience is nothing but a positive and results will show in future. Blocks that sit around cant be built without a little action. These injuries though bad, bring indirect benefits.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;858141]No, in other words our previous "GM" was so incompetent and big name hungry that our salary cap situation left no option for bringing in competent back up players and our new FO knows that when you build, you do it one step at a time. Regardless of basic fan stupidity(just to be cleared not calling anyone here stupid )[/quote]

By the way you are implying someone is stupid(namely me). Siging McNabb, then dumping him within a season for Grossman was Vinnyesque if you ask me. The move for Beck was a 180 degree move away from "Vinnyism" and getting the sexy big name, but still as asanine as a Vinny move. Getting rid of McNabb was wise, but not replacing him either via draft or FA was nuts. I guess my point is if they were going to wait to build the O line before acquiring the anointed QB via the draft, why bring in the big name FA QB then drop him like a dead fly before the first season is over. I have been a Skins fan since I was a boy, so I can endure this never ending rebuilding cycle we have been stuck in for 20 years, but what I don't like is a total regression within the space of one calendar year.

[QUOTE=GusFrerotte;858150]By the way you are implying someone is stupid(namely me). Siging McNabb, then dumping him within a season for Grossman was Vinnyesque if you ask me. The move for Beck was a 180 degree move away from "Vinnyism" and getting the sexy big name, but still as asanine as a Vinny move. Getting rid of McNabb was wise, but not replacing him either via draft or FA was nuts. I guess my point is if they were going to wait to build the O line before acquiring the anointed QB via the draft, why bring in the big name FA QB then drop him like a dead fly before the first season is over. I have been a Skins fan since I was a boy, so I can endure this never ending rebuilding cycle we have been stuck in for 20 years, but what I don't like is a total regression within the space of one calendar year.[/QUOTE]
I honestly wasn't saying anyone was stupid, not you or anyone else on this forum.

I can give the explanation that I believe about McNabb, but overall I hated the move early and hated it at the end. But no front office gets every call right, and in the end if in two more years we still are rummaging in the basement of the nfc east then it will be time for a change. For me other than the qb, I think most of the moves have at least the potential to move us in the right direction, and I think that the whole FO knew that they were taking a new young qb in 2012 and the thing they were hoping or expecting with McNabb was to give a fresh start at qb, while setting up a positive change as the rookie got his feet going. Clearly they misjudged McNabbs ability in that respect.

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Skins have been rebuilding since I was 5 smh how do u think I feel???

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[quote=GusFrerotte;858129]In other words, our new GM is in over his head.[/quote]

My statement does not logically entail that.