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SirClintonPortis 11-13-2011 06:57 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;858997][B]Redskins Talent Evaluators[/B]

This is not excusable.

[url=http://www.twitlonger.com/show/e5tehn]TwitLonger — When you talk too much for Twitter[/url][/quote]

I thought Carlos himself thought he didn't have a problem.

But still, it's amazing NO ONE in the organization listened to Phillip and make Carlos get an eye check.

Big C 11-13-2011 07:10 PM

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1. red zone offense. this goes to everyone on offense. it comes down to rex making a bad decision and throwing a pick. it comes down to logan paulsen holding and moving us back from the goal line to the 10. it comes down to not being able to run the ball effectively to get 5 yards when we get the ball handed to us on the 5.

2. 3rd down defense. 8/14, unacceptable any way you slice it.

3. anthony armstrong. you just lost your job to a free agent (anderson?) who just got signed 6 days ago. what happened to you?

4. fred davis. catch. the. ball. stop dropping passes.

CrazyCanuck 11-13-2011 07:47 PM

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There were more but I'll continue to :bdh: and go with the secondary.

More specifically D Hall... so tired of this guy, would love to trade him but we wouldn't get squat. Wouldn't mind if they released him at this point.

SirClintonPortis 11-13-2011 07:55 PM

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[quote=mooby;858945]I didn't watch the game due to work, but since some asshat was kind enough to spot my Redskins jacket and ask me if I was bitter since they lost, I figure there's not much point in me reliving the misery now. Judging from the board and the stat line, sounds like Grossman wasn't very effective.

My only smackdown will come from the obvious: Looking at the scoreboard, it's apparent we only scored 9 points. So my smackdown is on the offense for again failing to score touchdowns. I'd say fix it but injuries and a lack of good depth/starters probably means our offense is going to look this way for the rest of the season.[/quote]

Grossman was just OK. We moved down the field and spread the ball around, but we stalled in the red zone. One pick was due to Hankerson falling down, the other was on him.

SmootSmack 11-13-2011 08:00 PM

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I'm almost 100% positive Los got his eyes checked.

But anyhow, said this off-season I thought Armstrong was too one dimensional but I can't see how TA isn't getting more touches. They say when you have 2 QBs you have none. I guess when you have 8 WRs you have none.

Slingin Sammy 33 11-13-2011 11:12 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;858947]We came thiiiiiis close to Locker, which would have made me happy, but then no Kerrigan and company. Could have gotten someone like Stanzi though I suppose

The whole Beck thing confuses me[/quote]I get not drafting a QB in this draft, didn't like the class much. Dalton had some questions with arm strength, level of competition etc. I don't think anyone expected him to perform so well.

The Beck thing seems like a matter of Daddy and Jr. trying to work together as co-OCs rather than having a unified direction. Daddy is Zone run, PA. Jr. is spread & throw. Daddy liked Beck, Rex is Jr's guy. When Rex was crapping himself, Daddy said let's give Beck a shot. Problem is (as we found out), Beck is a better fit for Daddy's system, not Jr's. What we also found out is that Daddy appears to be committed to Jr's system even if we continue to stick circle pegs in square holes. What needs to happen is Daddy should take control and essentially make Jr as postion coach (QBs) and call the plays himslef. Jr needs to sit back and learn the run/PA game and when we have a QB, then you can open up and let Jr have his headset back.

Bottom line, with no QB, Jr's system won't work. Plus, I believe power run mixed w/PA & balanced passing is the way to go in the NFC East. I don't want to say "suck for Luck", I think Indy has that locked....but my feeling is Rex is back in because he's the best option in-house to execute Jr's system so the young guys can get prepared for next year....when we hopefully have a QB.

Rebuilding is tough, but it is what it is. That being said, if we're in the same boat this time next year, I think Daddy & Jr are out.

And I'll throw this out too, if we're in the same boat this time next year for the money DS is paying the coaching staff (particularly the HC). You give me half that amount, and I guarantee I'd have a young, hungry staff in 30 days that could field a competitive team with the players in-house.

GTripp0012 11-13-2011 11:18 PM

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[B]GTripp[/B] For complaining about having a young guy like Perry Riley on the team last week.

SirClintonPortis 11-14-2011 12:32 AM

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;859158]
The Beck thing seems like a matter of Daddy and Jr. trying to work together as co-OCs rather than having a unified direction. Daddy is Zone run, PA. Jr. is spread & throw. Daddy liked Beck, Rex is Jr's guy. When Rex was crapping himself, Daddy said let's give Beck a shot. Problem is (as we found out), Beck is a better fit for Daddy's system, not Jr's. What we also found out is that Daddy appears to be committed to Jr's system even if we continue to stick circle pegs in square holes. What needs to happen is Daddy should take control and essentially make Jr as postion coach (QBs) and call the plays himslef. Jr needs to sit back and learn the run/PA game and when we have a QB, then you can open up and let Jr have his headset back.

[/quote]

I'm not sure if Beck is a fit for any NFL caliber system. He just can't process the info fast enough to play in this league, regardless of his physical skills .

REDSKINS4ever 11-14-2011 01:39 AM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;859205]I'm not sure if Beck is a fit for any NFL caliber system. He just can't process the info fast enough to play in this league, regardless of his physical skills .[/quote]


I think Beck can play. He just can't go four years without taking a snap and expect to play well once he's given an opportunity. There's no logical or rational explanation for Mike Shanahan to place a QB atop the depth chart who hasn't started nor even played in a game since 2007. That alone tells me that Mike Shanahan doesn't truly know how to evaluate quarterbacks like he says he does. And add the inconsistent Rex Grossman to compete with Beck for the starting job in preseason/training camp, and you have an offense going absolutely nowhere.

And why in the hell didn't Mike Shanahan keep Kellen Clemens? At least Clemens, unlike John Beck, has wins in the NFL as a starting QB.

mooby 11-14-2011 01:43 AM

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;859218]I think Beck can play. He just can't go four years without taking a snap and expect to play well once he's given an opportunity. There's no logical or rational explanation for Mike Shanahan to place a QB atop the depth chart who hasn't started nor even played in a game since 2007. That alone tells me that Mike Shanahan doesn't truly know how to evaluate quarterbacks like he says he does. And add the inconsistent Rex Grossman to compete with Beck for the starting job in preseason/training camp, and you have an offense going absolutely nowhere.

And why in the hell didn't Mike Shanahan keep Kellen Clemens? At least Clemens, unlike John Beck, has wins in the NFL as a starting QB.[/quote]

For all the people clamoring for Clemens (see what I did there?), ask yourselves this: If Clemens is so good, how did he not at minimum claim a roster spot, or even beat out Beck or Grossman for the starting job? I swear the grass is always greener mentality on these boards is so dumb. Have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe, it doesn't matter who the starter or backup is? They all suck. Clemens must be a pretty shitty qb if he can't beat out these worthless hacks we have alternating at qb recently.

CultBrennan59 11-14-2011 01:44 AM

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[quote=mooby;859220]For all the people clamoring for Clemens (see what I did there?), ask yourselves this: If Clemens is so good, how did he not at minimum claim a roster spot, or even beat out Beck or Grossman for the starting job? I swear the grass is always greener mentality on these boards is so dumb. Have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe, it doesn't matter who the starter or backup is? They all suck. Clemens must be a pretty shitty qb if he can't beat out these worthless hacks we have alternating at qb recently.[/quote]

Amen!

I think a lot of people on this board need reality checks when it comes to this team.

The Goat 11-14-2011 01:47 AM

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No sense is discussin the offense for the remainder of the season.

Defensively though, I think the greatest myth in Skins history is this absurd notion Shanny/Haslett have improved the defense. It's...just...effing...absurd. The average defensive units in the Williams/Blache era would have held the Dolphins to less than ten points today. I understand new fans, as in those who just "followed" Mike the Rat to DC, as believing the defense is improved. Certainly our avg at best defense (this year) is better than worst in the league (last year), so again I understand the mistake from a new fan. But for anyone who's watched this team since about '04...c'mon people denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

I soooooooo miss the Williams/Blache days of run stuffing, contain defense. With a legit FS and QB we would have been elite. Eff Shanny for setting the defense back so far.

...btw BIG props to Andre Carter for a monster game tonight. Love that guy!! Miss him and the group he was part of.

diehard 11-14-2011 01:49 AM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;859221]Amen!

I think a lot of people on this board need reality checks when it comes to this team.[/quote]

I say every fan of this team get there eyes checked and go root for another team :eek:

mooby 11-14-2011 01:53 AM

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[quote=diehard;859223]I say every fan of this team get there eyes checked and go root for another team :eek:[/quote]

I was actually planning on going to get my eyes checked, just so I can plan my breakout year rooting for another team on another forum. I hear the Virginia Destroyers of UFL fame could use some more fans, I just might take my talents elsewhere next season.

SirClintonPortis 11-14-2011 02:02 AM

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;859218]I think Beck can play. He just can't go four years without taking a snap and expect to play well once he's given an opportunity. There's no logical or rational explanation for Mike Shanahan to place a QB atop the depth chart who hasn't started nor even played in a game since 2007. That alone tells me that Mike Shanahan doesn't truly know how to evaluate quarterbacks like he says he does. And add the inconsistent Rex Grossman to compete with Beck for the starting job in preseason/training camp, and you have an offense going absolutely nowhere.

And why in the hell didn't Mike Shanahan keep Kellen Clemens? At least Clemens, unlike John Beck, has wins in the NFL as a starting QB.[/quote]

There is no excuse for Beck. His frequent double-clutching and panic checkdowns tells me he just isn't quick enough. He has had 1 year in the system to study the playbook, something Alex Smith and JC did not have. The onus is on HIM to remain prepared if pressed into action. The onus is on HIM to practice throwing routes, etc to maintain chemistry with his WRs. Todd Collins came in and led the offense competently when JC went down in 2007 because he kept himself prepared. The WaPo article on Todd was quite revealing about him. The dude studied, studied, studied like he was trying to pass a class with a 100%. IF he did all those things and yet he still came out with the dud performances he did the past few, then I doubt he can improve much at all.

Heck, Carson Palmer has only had a few weeks and probably a simplified playbook, and he sure as hell didn't look like the deer headlights Beck was. Sam Bradford and Cam Newton, rookies who transitioned from that dread spread, didn't double clutch and panic checkdowned all over the place. Or hell, Tom Brady, 6th round pick, steps in and takes a team to the Super Bowl. The examples are numerous where QBs are pressed into starting and they don't look like completely lost.

I'm not saying "processing speed" is completely innate(aka they're born with it) to the player. It is just that their "slowest" speed in their first few starts is not so slow that they're constantly hesitating and not going through the progressions within 3 seconds.

SirClintonPortis 11-14-2011 02:06 AM

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[quote=mooby;859220]For all the people clamoring for Clemens (see what I did there?), ask yourselves this: If Clemens is so good, how did he not at minimum claim a roster spot, or even beat out Beck or Grossman for the starting job? I swear the grass is always greener mentality on these boards is so dumb. Have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe, it doesn't matter who the starter or backup is? They all suck. Clemens must be a pretty shitty qb if he can't beat out these worthless hacks we have alternating at qb recently.[/quote]

As Devil's Advocate. :FIREdevil
I counter that, the Shanahans were not completely biased and wanted to see their boy make the roster. After all, Joey Galloway didn't really need to compete at all. ;) :FIREdevil

REDSKINS4ever 11-14-2011 04:02 AM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;859231]There is no excuse for Beck. His frequent double-clutching and panic checkdowns tells me he just isn't quick enough. He has had 1 year in the system to study the playbook, something Alex Smith and JC did not have. The onus is on HIM to remain prepared if pressed into action. The onus is on HIM to practice throwing routes, etc to maintain chemistry with his WRs. Todd Collins came in and led the offense competently when JC went down in 2007 because he kept himself prepared. The WaPo article on Todd was quite revealing about him. The dude studied, studied, studied like he was trying to pass a class with a 100%. IF he did all those things and yet he still came out with the dud performances he did the past few, then I doubt he can improve much at all.

Heck, Carson Palmer has only had a few weeks and probably a simplified playbook, and he sure as hell didn't look like the deer headlights Beck was. Sam Bradford and Cam Newton, rookies who transitioned from that dread spread, didn't double clutch and panic checkdowned all over the place. Or hell, Tom Brady, 6th round pick, steps in and takes a team to the Super Bowl. The examples are numerous where QBs are pressed into starting and they don't look like completely lost.

I'm not saying "processing speed" is completely innate(aka they're born with it) to the player. It is just that their "slowest" speed in their first few starts is not so slow that they're constantly hesitating and not going through the progressions within 3 seconds.[/quote]

As a enormous Redskins fan, I'm just shocked as hell to find out that Mike Shanahan, two time Super Bowl winning head coach, doesn't know QBs. He coached Joe Montana, Steve Young, John Elway, Jake Plummer, and Jay Cutler. As a offensive coordinator and head coach, he won with those QBs, right?

Now let's fast forward to Mike Shanahan's tenure as head coach of the Washington Redskins. He cuts Todd Collins, doesn't re-sign Jason Campbell, trades a 2nd and 4th round pick for Donovan McNabb, trades for John Beck, signs Rex Grossman, and then trades McNabb. Then the worst of all decisions that he could possibly make results in him not drafting a QB in the 2011 draft, and not signing Matt Hasselback or another veteran QB that has played in the west coast offense after the NFL lockout was finished. That's eight TERRIBLE decisions that Mike Shanahan has made right there that's resulted in nothing but mediocrity at the quarterback position.

SHANAHAN HAS GOTTEN IT HORRIBLY WRONG WITH ALL OF THE DECISIONS THAT HE'S MADE PERTAINING TO THE QB POSITION SINCE HE'S BEEN THE HEAD COACH OF THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS!!!!!!!!!!

Swarley 11-14-2011 06:08 AM

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cutting Todd Collins was a terrible decision? And I'd highly disagree that signing Rex Grossman as a backup qb was a bad decision.

In truth Shanahan took a big chance on McNabb, and failed. Chose not to draft a QB this past draft which looks like a mistake until at least next year. That equals two mistakes, not 8.

Beemnseven 11-14-2011 07:40 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;858936]Mike Shanahan - yes because he wanted these 2 QBs and didn't draft a rookie after [B]having a chance at Dalton in the 2nd.. [/B]What a sad joke

Rex Grossman- Dude you make some good throws until it's time to actually score then u **** it all up over and over.

Defense - played ok but too many holes in the secondary and I thought that would b a strong point.

[B]Kyle again- 3rd and 2 and u don't run ? Speechless[/B][/quote]

Why do people keep saying we had a chance at Dalton?? I've read that over and over. Dalton was taken with the 35th pick in the second round and we had the 41st pick. The plan clearly was never to package some sort of deal to move up -- they wanted to maximize their selections or trade [I]down[/I] to get more. Yes, Dalton sure looks better than anything we have now -- but here's the key point: Dalton has some semblance of a supporting cast around him. Dalton would be running for his life with no running game and no one to throw to if he was here.

As far as Kyle's playcalling goes, I seem to remember several runs going for less than 2 yards. Apart from a couple of draw plays by Helu late in the game, it didn't look to me like they were capable of getting yardage on the ground when they needed it. But people just won't give up bashing the offensive coordinator for the line's inability to run block...

CrustyRedskin 11-14-2011 07:49 AM

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[quote=GreekSkin;859248]cutting Todd Collins was a terrible decision? And I'd highly disagree that signing Rex Grossman as a backup qb was a bad decision.

In truth Shanahan took a big chance on McNabb, and failed. Chose not to draft a QB this past draft which looks like a mistake until at least next year. That equals two mistakes, not 8.[/quote]

WHile Ryan Mallet is picking boogers in New England.

skinsfan69 11-14-2011 07:55 AM

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;859253]WHile Ryan Mallet is picking boogers in New England.[/quote]

He had some serious character issues coming out of the draft. Didn't he miss a meeting with a team cause he went out and get drunk the night before? He was the best QB but it was just too much for a risk.

skinsfan69 11-14-2011 08:17 AM

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I'm also giving some smack to Sam Huff. I listened to the game on my way to the sportsbar. He just needs to stop making a fool of himself and retire.

SmootSmack 11-14-2011 08:45 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;859261]I'm also giving some smack to Sam Huff. I listened to the game on my way to the sportsbar. He just needs to stop making a fool of himself and retire.[/quote]

Sam Huff is awful. Having listened to many radio color commentators around the nation I would say that Sam Huff is the absolute worst. And, as I've mentioned before, he takes frequent naps during the game and it shows.

People seem to be afraid to fire him but it's long, long, long overdue. And it would be to his benefit. He's one of the greatest football players ever. He revolutionized the linebacker position. Yet there's a whole generation of Redskins fans that will only remember him as this buffoon on the radio. He can't handle the grind of weekly NFL games. Let him do some feature pieces for Redskins.com, give his opinion in weekly round tables. But get him off the radio during the game.

skinsfan69 11-14-2011 08:55 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;859263]Sam Huff is awful. Having listened to many radio color commentators around the nation I would say that Sam Huff is the absolute worst. And, as I've mentioned before, he takes frequent naps during the game and it shows.

People seem to be afraid to fire him but it's long, long, long overdue. And it would be to his benefit. He's one of the greatest football players ever. He revolutionized the linebacker position. Yet there's a whole generation of Redskins fans that will only remember him as this buffoon on the radio. He can't handle the grind of weekly NFL games. Let him do some feature pieces for Redskins.com, give his opinion in weekly round tables. But get him off the radio during the game.[/quote]

What about Theismann? Although I don't think he and Sonny could work together. Or even Doc?? Anyone but Huff!

SmootSmack 11-14-2011 09:06 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;859264]What about Theismann? Although I don't think he and Sonny could work together. Or even Doc?? Anyone but Huff![/quote]

Well Doc has been kind of serving as a bit of a sideline reporter so he could conceivably be the next man up.

CrustyRedskin 11-14-2011 09:10 AM

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Kyle S: “Daddy why can’t we win a game”

Daddy S: “Cause I’m a washed up old coach, and I’ve built a pile of crap for a team”.

Kyle S: “Daddy what’s a Mormon ,Moron, and MF’er cause the team keeps calling me and my quarterbacks those names and it makes us mad.”

Daddy S: “Beck is the Mormon, you and Beck are the other two, it’l be ok they’re cool nicknames, I get called those all the time too.”

Kyle S: “Daddy did you see what those Cowboys did the Bills, Daddy we didn’t even score on those guys, I’m skeerd ,what are we gona do”

Daddy S: “Shut the hell up and let me think for a minute, and go get me a Diablo samich and a Dr. Pepper and some hush puppies for Mr. Snyder”

Slingin Sammy 33 11-14-2011 09:10 AM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;859205]I'm not sure if Beck is a fit for any NFL caliber system. He just can't process the info fast enough to play in this league, regardless of his physical skills .[/quote]Agree, but with his mobility in a run/PA system it would help limit how bad he sucks.

Lotus 11-14-2011 09:21 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;859261]I'm also giving some smack to Sam Huff. I listened to the game on my way to the sportsbar. He just needs to stop making a fool of himself and retire.[/quote]

Yeah, his retirement is long overdue. He was an awesome linebacker. He was a great radio analyst in the '80's. But nowadays he just detracts from the broadcast big time.

firstdown 11-14-2011 10:11 AM

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Think next week I have $100 riding on the game.

Slingin Sammy 33 11-14-2011 10:48 AM

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[quote=firstdown;859286]Think next week I have $100 riding on the game.[/quote]w/spread or straight up?

mredskins 11-14-2011 11:55 AM

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At this point I think our only chance of another win is 12/24 (minn @home).

Really what a sad sad season.

mredskins 11-14-2011 12:00 PM

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I still cheer for this team but I hardly watch the games anymore, have not bought any merchandise of theirs in years, and never defend them. If someone comes up to me and says they suck I am like they sure do!

Honestly if not for this web site and the core posters on here I probably would have dumped the Skins by now.

I quite honestly don't see a light at the end of the tunnel or anything that makes me believe we are on the right path. I was a MS support but he has done nothing but make this team worst. Look at SF for example and what they have done with a college coach in their first year.

What a sad state of affairs.

htownskinfan 11-14-2011 12:08 PM

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;859268]Kyle S: “Daddy why can’t we win a game”

Daddy S: “Cause I’m a washed up old coach, and I’ve built a pile of crap for a team”.

Kyle S: “Daddy what’s a Mormon ,Moron, and MF’er cause the team keeps calling me and my quarterbacks those names and it makes us mad.”

Daddy S: “Beck is the Mormon, you and Beck are the other two, it’l be ok they’re cool nicknames, I get called those all the time too.”

Kyle S: “Daddy did you see what those Cowboys did the Bills, Daddy we didn’t even score on those guys, I’m skeerd ,what are we gona do”

Daddy S: “Shut the hell up and let me think for a minute, and go get me a Diablo samich and a Dr. Pepper and some hush puppies for Mr. Snyder”[/quote]

that would be funny if it wasnt true:cheeky-sm

GMScud 11-14-2011 12:08 PM

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I know I beat this drum at least a few times a season, but I'm going to once again lay the smack down on our pathetic local radio broadcasting team, Sonny, Sam Huff, and Larry Michael.

Sam Huff is so done. It's a total embarrassment, and at this point the Redskins need to remove him from the booth for his own dignity. He's literally a mix of drunk and senile. I just heard a clip of him on the radio- when Rex threw the INT to Dansby, Sam said "my gosh that's his 4th INT!" He just has no idea.

SmootSmack 11-14-2011 12:15 PM

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[quote=mredskins;859323]I still cheer for this team but I hardly watch the games anymore, have not bought any merchandise of theirs in years, and never defend them. If someone comes up to me and says they suck I am like they sure do!

Honestly if not for this web site and the core posters on here I probably would have dumped the Skins by now.

[B]I quite honestly don't see a light at the end of the tunnel or anything that makes me believe we are on the right path. I was a MS support but he has done nothing but make this team worst. [/B]Look at SF for example and what they have done with a college coach in their first year.

What a sad state of affairs.[/quote]

I disagree...but this is the smackdown thread and you're entitled to your opinion.

GMScud 11-14-2011 12:25 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;859330]I disagree...but this is the smackdown thread and you're entitled to your opinion.[/quote]

I agree with your disagreement. We have a bevy of young draft picks in the fold, and another chunk of picks upcoming in this years draft. We're in good shape with the salary cap, and we don't have a lot of money tied up in older players right now. We're getting younger.

However, I'm beginning to lean towards Mike Shanahan not really being too much of a positive right now. Hiring Kyle is looking like a mistake, and he's totally wet the bed at the QB position. But I do think there is reason for optimism in the coming seasons IF IF IF we land a blue-chip QB.

GMScud 11-14-2011 12:26 PM

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But, this is the smackdown thread, so I'm gonna call out Landry again. At this point, I don't care if we let him walk. He's not that great, and my god is he a punk ass. The barking and finger wagging after opponents get a first down is just a total joke. He has no idea what's going on out there.

sportscurmudgeon 11-14-2011 12:32 PM

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[quote=over the mountain;858926]i honestly didnt see any one player or unit have a really bad game . . . outside of the run game. my god our run game has to be they worst run game in the league the last 3 to 4 games or so.

so while they only gave up 2 sacks, the O line and the total disappearance of the stretch run play is my big smack upside the head. homie dont play that.

GM - for studs, you got kerrigan and i think the safeties. i know it was matt moore but they didnt let a brandon marshall led receiving corps get behind them for a big play. i cant really think of many big passing plays on us all year wit or without atogwe. maybe even rex? compared to last couple weeks he did wonders[/quote]

The Skins did not score a TD all day long.

The total offense for the day was about 250 yards.

The defense - - trailing by 4 points - - took the field with 12 minutes in the game and the ball at the Dolphins 19. (This was immediately after the Grossman INT in the red zone.) With a "three-and-out" or with one first down and a punt, the Skins would have been in a position to win with a single drive. The defense allowed a 6 minute drive for 81 yards and a TD putting the game out of reach.


And you say you didn't see any player or unit have a bad game?

mredskins 11-14-2011 12:37 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Dolphins)
 
[quote=SmootSmack;859330]I disagree...but this is the smackdown thread and you're entitled to your opinion.[/quote]


but honestly just in the time that this site has been up and I have been here for quit awhile, have we seen a new coach come in and nothing changes. I hope it does but history tells me not to hold my breath.

And let me add I was not looking for a Super Bowl run or a playoff run this year, I would have just like to seen us won more games than last year, doesn't look like at it at this point.

sportscurmudgeon 11-14-2011 12:39 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Dolphins)
 
[quote=CrazyCanuck;859039]There were more but I'll continue to :bdh: and go with the secondary.

More specifically D Hall... so tired of this guy, would love to trade him but we wouldn't get squat. Wouldn't mind if they released him at this point.[/quote]

Crazy Canuck:

You are not beating a dead horse. Hall is among the highest paid players on the roster and he is an ordinary performer on the field.

The myth is that he is a "shut down corner". If that is the case, how come offensive coordinators with QBs of the quality of Matt Moore target his side of the field at least as often as they do the other side of the field.

The only facet of the game in which Hall excels is running his mouth. In Texas, they call him "all hat and no cattle".


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