Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=Chico23231;861644]Gano - leading the league in misses and missed 2 more today. God damn it, can we just get better here

Injuries - I hate this b*tch. im sure Silverback is out for the ****ing year.[/quote]

i was real disappointed we drafted dallas startz instead of mason crosby. as much as someone could be disappointed their team didnt draft a kicker in the 6th round or whatever it was.

did it look like the boys interior rushers schemeatically went low to the side of the line trent was on to try and kinda cut down some of that line so their overloaded rushers on the outside of that side could have any easier corner to turn?

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

Yeah Brian hasn't had a good year IMO his worst as a pro idk I think he'd be a better 4-3 DE more like a Robert Mathis

Re: Smmot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=skinsfan69;861692]Hall is what he is. Right? We've seen this from him since he's been here. He never plays bump and run. Always give a big cusion. He does that cause he can't cover.

I agree. They just need to stick Helu in there and quit all this nonsense with rotating backs.[/quote]

i think he plays off to give him the chance to try and step up and jump a route . .

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=over the mountain;861752]i was real disappointed we drafted dallas startz instead of mason crosby. as much as someone could be disappointed their team didnt draft a kicker in the 6th round or whatever it was.

[B]did it look like the boys interior rushers schemeatically went low to the side of the line trent was on to try and kinda cut down some of that line so their overloaded rushers on the outside of that side could have any easier corner to turn[/B]?[/quote]

It did, im sure that's a strategy for them to get a man up to block the kick. But I mean they didnt need all that effort, its Gano, a guaranteed miss.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

Orakpo is unfortunately quite overrated around the league, but whatever..

Impressed with Riley again, Gomes was a guy who I didn't even know existed on draft day and had a respectable debut.

Grossman was a trooper today, I was very very impressed with him all game long. This type of play every week and we're contenders.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=NC_Skins;861747]I got labeled a D. Hall hater a year ago for saying he wasn't that good, and even went on to point out the stats. There are times when D. Hall plays tight coverage on the guy like he was his second shadow or something, and then turns around and gives up a 3 and 15 play. It's frustrating because the guy could be so much more, but plays with little discipline.
[/quote]

I think this sums up my feelings for the whole team, especially the defense. I really feel it falls on the coaching staff to make sure that these inconsistencies.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

Where are all of the Gano supporters???? The guy is a loser. Always has been

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=Chico23231;861756]It did, im sure that's a strategy for them to get a man up to block the kick. But I mean they didnt need all that effort, its Gano, a guaranteed miss.[/quote]

it looked like our guys were engaged in contact up high then had boys players diving at their knees, dont wanna sound like a whiny bitch who cries foul but i think the refs could have called 2-3 chop clocks there. it looked pretty obvious, hope the media does some follow up questions

edit - saw a replay on nfl dot com. doesnt look nefarious from their endzone angle.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=Ruhskins;861718]Haslett and the DBs coach need to fix the secondary. Both of our starting corners gave up key plays and TDs (actually I think Wilson gave up both TDs). We need a young FS with good covering skills, and I guess Landry will be back next season but he needs to be healthy[/quote]

No DB coach is going to fix Hall (can't teach an old dog new tricks), Wilson is average at best. This team badly needs to draft a cover corner, that why I said QB, CB, OL on the draft, also look for another CB in FA and boot Hall. Please don't sign Finnegan, he's a headcase.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

Mike Shannahan - for not going for the 2 point conversion. A 3-6 team should take that opportunity.

Mike Shannahan - for having trust in Gano to make any field goal that is important (I'm an FSU fan, so both games my teams lost this week were because FSU kickers have no testicular fortitude)

Gano - for having no guts, make the damn kick. FML!

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[QUOTE=GTripp0012;861698][B]Mike Shanahan's game management[/B] was pitiful. Today, I think is an excellent example of how the Redskins can become competitive with other NFC East teams thanks to an already-arrived (but inconsistent and undisciplined) defense, but how Shanahan is still going to struggle to win every week the way the game is played today.

With that said, I was sure that Shanahan was going to go for two after the Stallworth TD. We've seen him do that before (2008 - Denver-San Diego). It would have been the perfect time to call the best play the team has in the red zone - if the play gets overturned, it's a fourth down must have, if not, the same play wins the game. I understand playing conservatively, but after passing that up, I can't defend the decision to kick a 52 yard FG. After passing up a 48% chance to win, that's not the probability play.

[B]Also, the ice the kicker timeout is the worst play in football.[/[/B]QUOTE]

One of the worst and shanashithead does it everytime,Mike,get a ****ing clue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If he doesnt call timeout there 3 good things could have happened,he either rushes kick and misses it,delay of game on dallas,or they flag romo for calling the timeout which sets them back 15 yards!

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;861768]Mike Shannahan - for not going for the 2 point conversion. A 3-6 team should take that opportunity.

Mike Shannahan - for having trust in Gano to make any field goal that is important (I'm an FSU fan, so both games my teams lost this week were because FSU kickers have no testicular fortitude)

Gano - for having no guts, make the damn kick. FML![/quote]


You'd think FSU fans would be used to "WIDE RIGHT".

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=SOUL-SKINS;861762]Where are all of the Gano supporters???? The guy is a loser. Always has been[/quote]

I picture Gano sitting in a room hitting replay over and over saying "laces out Dan".

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

A lot of people were very quiet while Gano's been making these 50+ yard field goals

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=Ruhskins;861761]I think this sums up my feelings for the whole team, especially the defense. I really feel it falls on the coaching staff to make sure that these inconsistencies.[/quote]

DHall is a well-known stubborn mule who won't soften up his stance on how he wants to play the game, and this is why he is not competing with Revis as a truly top CB in the league.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

Also, it was only one play, but Jamaal Brown proved that he is DeMarcus Ware's bitch and I wouldn't want him anywhere NEAR the LT starting job unless the circumstances are extremely dire. .

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=SmootSmack;861780]A lot of people were very quiet while Gano's been making these 50+ yard field goals[/quote]

Dont think thats true.He had a thread started singing his praises,thats not keeping quiet.Ive been a Gano supporter but I cant do it anymore.time to reopen the Gano has got to go thread,its not pointless anymore.He just misses too many kicks and you can never trust him
This is the list of 2012 free agent kicker,there are at least 5 on that list I would OVERPAY just to come here

Jay Feely (ARZ)
Rian Lindell (BUF)
Mike Nugent (CIN)
Phil Dawson (CLE)
Neil Rackers (HOU)
Josh Scobee (JAC)
Nick Folk (NYJ)
Connor Barth (TB)
Ryan Succop (KC) - Restricted
Graham Gano (WAS) - Restricted

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=IrMitchell;861760]Orakpo is unfortunately quite overrated around the league, but whatever..

Impressed with Riley again, Gomes was a guy who I didn't even know existed on draft day and had a respectable debut.

Grossman was a trooper today, I was very very impressed with him all game long. This type of play every week and we're contenders.[/quote]


not with the way the D played today...

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=NC_Skins;861771]You'd think FSU fans would be used to "WIDE RIGHT".[/quote]

Use to it and having to like it are two different things. Its very tiresome, not ever having a kicker that you can trust to make a game winner.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

gano doesnt bother me right now. if this team had the right pieces in place then he would. didnt we have a "we finally found our kicker" thread this season?

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=SmootSmack;861780]A lot of people were very quiet while Gano's been making these 50+ yard field goals[/quote]

well its like last year was the first full season...not great, but had potential. Fast forward this year, i think he has kicked better, but still leading the league in misses. Not ready to cut him, but bringing in some more, maybe stronger competition in the offseason wouldnt be a bad move. But I could probably say that for 75% of our starters.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

agreed

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

I'm not sure if I hate the Redskins more than I love them, and they can piss me off more than anything in the world. And I know I've been involved in arguments about the Skins on this site over the past few hours but to be honest, of all the complaints about the Skins I have after this game, I have to admit I'm really proud of the way the team got together and played football today.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=htownskinfan;861786]Dont think thats true.He had a thread started singing his praises,thats not keeping quiet.Ive been a Gano supporter but I cant do it anymore.time to reopen the Gano has got to go thread,its not pointless anymore.He just misses too many kicks and you can never trust him
This is the list of 2012 free agent kicker,there are at least 5 on that list I would OVERPAY just to come here

Jay Feely (ARZ)
Rian Lindell (BUF)
Mike Nugent (CIN)
Phil Dawson (CLE)
Neil Rackers (HOU)
[B]Josh Scobee (JAC)[/B]
Nick Folk (NYJ)
Connor Barth (TB)
Ryan Succop (KC) - Restricted
Graham Gano (WAS) - Restricted[/quote]

I would way over pay this guy. Did anyone one see him single handly beat the Ravens?

To be honest, I want Gano to work out. But a guy like Scobee is a beast to have as a kicker.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

Disregard this post. Too many Stupid pills

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

I heard a stat on the pre game show and Orakpo has half a sack in division games and 25 non division. Mr Orakpo, you need to start playing big in the games that matter most. Right now Kerrigan is the better player.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8245059f/article/hall-says-redskins-should-cut-him-following-loss-to-cowboys?module=HP11_headline_stack]NFL.com news: Hall says Redskins should cut him following loss to Cowboys[/url]

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;861865][url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8245059f/article/hall-says-redskins-should-cut-him-following-loss-to-cowboys?module=HP11_headline_stack]NFL.com news: Hall says Redskins should cut him following loss to Cowboys[/url][/quote]

Wow, Hall really is dumb.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

DeAngelo Hall is overrated. His coverage skills are highly questionable. It seems he looks good against 'average' receivers, but when going against elite wideouts, he looks like garbage.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=Dirtbag59;861866]Wow, Hall really is dumb.[/quote]
His loss is his [unfairly-labeled] hatters gain. :D
It kills whatever excuses the Hall lovers had for him.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

- Playcalling was marginally better today but still the league's lowest common denominator. Kyle's call to chuck it deep on 1st down w/ about 8:30 left in the 4th qtr was careless and stupid...when you add the fact Torain was (still) in the effing game and there was all kinds of field space open to run on that play: unforgivable.

If the Shanahans are trying to lose at this point I'm ok w/ the play-calling and substitutions, but there's really know way for us to know.

- Orakpo. I think he's mailed it in for the season. I won't be surprised if he wants a trade eventually because he seems like a no-nonsense kind of player and w/ the FO/coaching situation an effing travesty I can't blame him for (probably) wanting out.

- DHall. Cut him...regardless of cap implications.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=SOUL-SKINS;861762]Where are all of the Gano supporters???? The guy is a loser. Always has been[/quote]

Still here. Didn't see the game but I know he missed a game winning kick from 50 yards. So I say, what is the league average on 50 yarders? I'm going to take a wild guess and assume it's around 50 percent. Which is probably similar to Gano's average as well. And is it anything new that he's an inconsistent kicker? Put him in a better position to succeed and maybe he'll get better. We know he's got the leg to kick it 50 plus, but kicking is largely a mental game too.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=NC_Skins;861748]Why would we do that when we could just grab Barkley our self? Wouldn't make since one bit.[/quote]

Because we don't want Barkley nearly as much as we want Luck. Indy runs an offense which Barkley, Luck, or Landry Jones could be stars in. Us, it would probably be Luck, Landry, and RGIII.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

We haven't had a totally decent CB since Shawn Springs was playing. D. Hall is so overrated. How can he allow Dallas receivers to burn him two games straight? Just pathetic. Mike Shanahan needs to look at this roster with a critical eye once the season is over. He should ask himself the question, would the defense be better without certain people already here? That's including LaRon Landry, who hasn't done jack since since the first half of the 2010 season.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

I really wan't to know what is holding back Helu from getting more carries this year. We are still handing the ball off to TFL Torain, and now Choice? Helu is averaging a solid YPC while others have not...

It just seems he only comes in on passing downs, or when the Redskins want to pass and not use him in Pass Protection. It's almost a easy tell for the defenses when he comes into the game you can expect a pass

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

Redskins fans for selling thier tickets to cowboys fans. The stadium was packed, I actually though the skins won on Gano's kick in OT, i was in the opposite endzone and didnt have a great view, but from the cheers (cowboys fans) I thought we had won. efff them

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=SOUL-SKINS;861762][B]Where are all of the Gano supporters???? [/B]The guy is a loser. Always has been[/quote]

I wasn't aware there were any. Time to bring in some kickers.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

I think a smackdown is in order for the Kyle Shanahan bashers because they think he should call more running plays. Of the 24 runs yesterday, 10 went for negative yardage. Just go back and look at the game again if you're not convinced. You want them to run the ball more, but they just can't. It's that simple, and yesterday proved it.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=DynamiteRave;861624]Orakpo - I mean really. What happened to you dude? Were you even out on the field today or were we just playing with 10 guys?[/quote]

Yeah, disappointed in his game of late. We lost this game in large part due to a lack of qb pressure when it counted. I know we got 4 sacks & they hadn't given up a sack in 2 weeks prior, but a couple of those were coverage sacks. The secondary did its job on most of those 3rd down plays, but Romo was able to get out of the pocket & make a play w/out much pressure.

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)
 

[quote=Beemnseven;861908]I think a smackdown is in order for the Kyle Shanahan bashers because they think he should call more running plays. Of the 24 runs yesterday, 10 went for negative yardage. Just go back and look at the game again if you're not convinced. You want them to run the ball more, but they just can't. It's that simple, and yesterday proved it.[/quote]

I can't remember who said it, but a few weeks back a defender from another team said they knew when the skins were running. Didn't it really seem that way yesterday too? I mean is it just coincidence that D linemen ended up in the backfield 10+ times?

I would say the jury is still out on Kyle, if Defenses are seeing on film tendencies of how he runs the ball, that's on Kyle. I think he has so few running plays that the D easily sees them & they must be doing something in formations that tips the defense.