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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82511fc7/article/buccaneers-reportedly-planned-to-fire-morris-on-monday?module=HP11_headline_stack]NFL.com news: Buccaneers reportedly planned to fire Morris on Monday[/url]

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Right after they upset the Cowpukes on Sunday night!!! :food-smil

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[url=http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/9459244-606/bears-sam-hurd-arrested-on-drug-chargesreport.html]Feds: Bears’ Sam Hurd tried to buy huge amounts of cocaine, pot - Chicago Sun-Times[/url]

Rumor is lots of other NFL players are involved here

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[quote=Mattyk;868128]Speaking of Suh I'm really tired of the guy and he's only in his 2nd year. :doh:

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/14/ndamukong-suh-criticism-not-going-to-make-me-cry/]Ndamukong Suh: Criticism “not going to make me cry” | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Suh and Harrison are the biggest crybabies in the NFL. I don't know how on the one hand they complain about the game becoming "soft", yet they turn into whiny b*tches when the NFL slaps them with a fine.

If the NFL is becoming so tough on these penalties/fines, how come we don't hear about players like D. Ware, Fletcher, Ray Lewis, Patrick Willis, and B. Urlacher get repeatedly penalized and fined for illegal hits? Maybe these guys should quit their b*tching and work on perfecting their technique so they don't continue to get fined by the league.

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[quote=SmootSmack;868150][url=http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/9459244-606/bears-sam-hurd-arrested-on-drug-chargesreport.html]Feds: Bears’ Sam Hurd tried to buy huge amounts of cocaine, pot - Chicago Sun-Times[/url]

Rumor is lots of other NFL players are involved here[/quote]

Im sure there is a Skin or two envolved.

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what a clown SMH, making a damn good living and pissing it away, don't feel sorry for him at all

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[quote=SmootSmack;868150][url=http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/9459244-606/bears-sam-hurd-arrested-on-drug-chargesreport.html]Feds: Bears’ Sam Hurd tried to buy huge amounts of cocaine, pot - Chicago Sun-Times[/url]

Rumor is lots of other NFL players are involved here[/quote]

WTF. i just dont get it, why risk it? I hope no skins are involved.

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So it looks like former Redskins legend Kellen Clemens will be starting at QB for the Rams this Sunday

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[quote=Chico23231;868166]WTF. i just dont get it, why risk it? I hope no skins are involved.[/quote]

Why risk it?

Well, many elite athletes have been enabled as anti-social people from the time they demonstrated elite athletic skills. For them, there is always someone around to pick up the pieces of the messes they make and to get them out of the messes they find themselves in. For many - - not all but many - - athletes who have the ability to make it in the NFL:
[INDENT][B]There is no risk.[/B] Somebody will "take care of it for me".[/INDENT]

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[quote=SmootSmack;868183]So it looks like former Redskins legend Kellen Clemens will be starting at QB for the Rams this Sunday[/quote]

That should change everything in fantasy football leagues around the world...

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[quote=SmootSmack;868150][url=http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/9459244-606/bears-sam-hurd-arrested-on-drug-chargesreport.html]Feds: Bears’ Sam Hurd tried to buy huge amounts of cocaine, pot - Chicago Sun-Times[/url]

Rumor is lots of other NFL players are involved here[/quote]

Here is a paragraph from that link:
[INDENT][I]"Hurd, a former star player with Northern Illinois University, allegedly told the agent he already distributes four kilograms of cocaine a week in the Chicago area, but wanted to up that to five to 10 kilos and 1,000 pounds of marijuana — per week."[/I][/INDENT]
That is 26 tons of marijuana per year he is allegedly distributing.

At 4 Kilos a week, that is just a tad over 450 lbs of cocaine a year he is allegedly distributing.

That is not a junior varsity operation...

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Who knew a drug kingpin was playing in the NFL. :doh:. Honestly idc if any Redskins are involved, but if they are throw the book at them too. That's just dumb shit, being so f'n greedy that you're not content making assloads of money in the NFL.

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[quote=SmootSmack;868183]So it looks like former Redskins legend Kellen Clemens will be starting at QB for the Rams this Sunday[/quote]

Horsecollar Clemens for the win!

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[quote=Chico23231;868166]WTF. i just dont get it, why risk it? I hope no skins are involved.[/quote]

You know, instead of pissing it away, he had the business acumen to at least invest something that would net him more than the initial investment. Only problem is that he didn't do a good job of covering his tracks. #evenbadpeoplehavebrains #hailcapitalisticenterprise #onlyhalfsarcasm

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[quote=SmootSmack;868150][url=http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/9459244-606/bears-sam-hurd-arrested-on-drug-chargesreport.html]Feds: Bears’ Sam Hurd tried to buy huge amounts of cocaine, pot - Chicago Sun-Times[/url]

Rumor is lots of other NFL players are involved here[/quote]

I wonder how many Cowboys might be involved given that Hurd used to play there.

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[quote=Lotus;868205]I wonder how many Cowboys might be involved given that Hurd used to play there.[/quote]

The cocaine habit would explain romo's bizarre fondness for those retarded newsies hats.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;868201]You know, instead of pissing it away, he had the business acumen to at least invest something that would net him more than the initial investment. Only problem is that he didn't do a good job of covering his tracks. #evenbadpeoplehavebrains #hailcapitalisticenterprise #onlyhalfsarcasm[/quote]

Yeah, I read those prices he negotiated. Dude could have turned that around for serious profit. I guess that's why these guys get caught up in it- they make enough from the league to buy wholesale... in turn making 10 times the initial investment.

Unlike stocks, the drug trade isn't volatile (value-wise)... but also unlike stocks, you're dealing with those pesky FBI agents and turf wars.

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Julio Jones is starting to be something special

[url]http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.com/mac-engel/2011/12/one-take-on-jay-ratliffs-near-physical-altercation-with-a-beat-reporter.html[/url]



This Sam Hurd stuff is about to blow up for many players it seems like, rumor around here is many cowboys players bought from him on several occasions.. Again just rumors

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[quote=Chico23231;868209]Julio Jones is starting to be something special[/quote]

Can he be something special next week? I'm playing him and Matt Ryan in fantasy now.

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[quote=Chico23231;868209]Julio Jones is starting to be something special[/quote]

That trade up isn't looking so stupid now.

Good for ATL and it all started with a QB.. Hmm go figure

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[quote=skinsfaninok;868218]Good for ATL and it all started with a QB.. Hmm go figure[/quote]

3rd overall.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;868219]3rd overall.[/quote]

13-0
1 super bowl
1 soon to be MVP

24th overall.

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[quote=NC_Skins;868221]13-0
1 super bowl
1 soon to be MVP

24th overall.[/quote]Don't count on "falls".

He only fell because Mike Nolan was afraid of him.

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Also, we will never get to pick at 24 with the status quo.

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[quote=NC_Skins;868221]13-0
1 super bowl
1 soon to be MVP

24th overall.[/quote]

Sat on the bench for a season or two.

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[quote=mooby;868198]Who knew a drug kingpin was playing in the NFL. :doh:. Honestly idc if any Redskins are involved, but if they are throw the book at them too. That's just dumb shit, being so f'n greedy that you're not content making assloads of money in the NFL.[/quote]

Word on the street is Davis and Williams are his bitches,he owns them.
Lol,naw I dont know anything but it wouldnt surprise me in the least

Lmao @HTown

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Students suspended for Tebowing in school hallways.

[url=http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7357978/high-school-athletes-suspended-tebowing]High school athletes suspended for Tebowing - ESPN New York[/url]

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Jay Ratliff went off on reporter Calvin Watkin(who i love cause he shows the Cowboys no mercy) in the lockeroom yesterday they had to be physicaly seperated when Watkins asked Ratliff about his relationship with Sam Hurd. I think its safe to say there's a few puckered up at Valley Ranch.

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Jim Rome said rumor is Sam Hurd had an NFL players client list in the double digits. You might have a problem if you bought a dime bag from Hurd and then he put your name down on a list. Rome said it might be time to "lawyer up". this could be bad

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[quote=Chico23231;868327]Jim Rome said rumor is Sam Hurd had an NFL players client list in the double digits. You might have a problem if you bought a dime bag from Hurd and then he put your name down on a list. Rome said it might be time to "lawyer up". this could be bad[/quote]

NFL will do what they can to keep that list quiet. Not sure why the police would need to publicize it and they are not going to arrest people because there name is on a list (At least I do not think they will). However, some outfit will pay Hurd BIG money for his client list. He won't need the money in jail, but I am sure he wants to set up his family while he is away.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;868222]Don't count on "falls".

He only fell because Mike Nolan was afraid of him.[/quote]

And your excuse for the other 22 teams that bypassed him?


If you don't count on "falls", than don't count on top 5 talent panning out either. That works both ways.

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This could be like Cansenco only worse. If anyone on our team is on that list I can see them getting cut.

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[quote=Jontrem;868337]This could be like Cansenco only worse. If anyone on our team is on that list I can see them getting cut.[/quote]

To think that players aren't using recreational drugs is a bit naive to say the least. They most likely don't care unless they get caught. When you have money, and you enjoy the night life (clubs, hot women) than chances are high that drugs will be around you in some sort of form/fashion.

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[quote=NC_Skins;868338]To think that players aren't using recreational drugs is a bit naive to say the least. They most likely don't care unless they get caught. When you have money, and you enjoy the night life (clubs, hot women) than chances are high that drugs will be around you in some sort of form/fashion.[/quote]

Yup... we were discussing this in the TW/FD thread last week. I made a point that many players would do harder drugs over marijuana... because the former leaves the body in a day or two (and is harder to catch on the league's drug tests). The Hurd list is just the tip of the ice berg.

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[quote=NC_Skins;868335]And your excuse for the other 22 teams that bypassed him?


If you don't count on "falls", than don't count on top 5 talent panning out either. That works both ways.[/quote]
Methinks you need to brush up on what a game of chance is about.

Top 5 talent is about as reliable as a coin flip.

Bottom 15 of the first round talent is about as reliable as a die.

Betting on coin flip>betting on die.

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Although neither of those probabilies is close to accurate.

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If you define a bust as a player who starts (is his team's primary starter) for three or fewer seasons, then [URL="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/draft-finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2002&year_max=2011&type=&round_min=1&round_max=30&slot_min=1&slot_max=10&league_id=&team_id=&pos=ALL&college_id=all&conference=any&show=all"]from 2002-2007 only thirteen players busted[/URL] in the top ten, about two per year. And teams are doing a far better job rating talent at the top of the draft now vs. ten years ago.

It's significantly lower in the rest of the round, but a lot better than a coin flip until about the third round, when it's pretty much a coin flip whether you get a roster piece or a bust. After that, good orgs typically do better on Day 3 than poor ones, but no one is consistently pulling 50% after that.