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Just heard some big news tonight from a certain Redskins front office-worker.

The worker has told me some big news in the past, which has later been accurate. Example, in 2009 he told me we were going to make a push to get jay cutler, before ESPN reported that he was officially on the trading block. In 2008 he told me if Colt Brennan was there in the later rounds, we would draft him. In 2010 he told me the team liked Trent Williams more than Russell Okung and he would be our pick if Detroit didn't take him.

The point is he's accurate with his info.

He recently told me some key info regarding our first pick. "expect it to be Robert Griffin, because we are willing to trade 2 first rounders and at least a 3rd for him, and Mike really likes this kid."

I thought I'd relay this message with you all, take this as you want, but I trust this source.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;875376]why such aggressive no's?[/quote]

Brock is not a 2nd rd qb and I am not sold on Kirkpatrick, if we go corner I prefer Claiborne

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Just picture it:

QB Robert Griffin III
RB Roy Helu
RB Evan Royster
WR Vincent Jackson
WR Leonard Hankerson
WR Santana Moss/Emergence of Aldrick Robinson/Eddie Royal
TE Fred Davis
TE Chris Cooley
LT Trent Williams
LG Kory Litchensteiger
C David Molk (3rd or 4th round pick)
RG Chris Chester
RT Willie Smith

This isn't McDonalds but I'm lovin' it.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;875387]Just picture it:

QB Robert Griffin III
RB Roy Helu
RB Evan Royster
WR Vincent Jackson
WR Leonard Hankerson
WR Santana Moss/Emergence of Aldrick Robinson/Eddie Royal
TE Fred Davis
TE Chris Cooley
LT Trent Williams
[B]LG Kory Litchensteiger
C David Molk (3rd or 4th round pick)[/B]
RG Chris Chester
[B]RT Willie Smith[/B]

This isn't McDonalds but I'm lovin' it.[/quote]

This is my concern, you don't like montgomery/your gonna replace him when our LG is coming off an ACL and MCL tear and our RT situation was suspect throughout the year with brown and polumbus and willie smith?

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[quote=CultBrennan59;875389]This is my concern, you don't like montgomery/your gonna replace him when our LG is coming off an ACL and MCL tear and our RT situation was suspect throughout the year with brown and polumbus and willie smith?[/quote]

Willie Smith played pretty well I don't dislike Monte I just think Molk is am upgrade and nothing has shown that Litchensteiger wont be ready next year

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[quote=CultBrennan59;875381]Just heard some big news tonight from a certain Redskins front office-worker.

The worker has told me some big news in the past, which has later been accurate. Example, in 2009 he told me we were going to make a push to get jay cutler, before ESPN reported that he was officially on the trading block. In 2008 he told me if Colt Brennan was there in the later rounds, we would draft him. In 2010 he told me the team liked Trent Williams more than Russell Okung and he would be our pick if Detroit didn't take him.

The point is he's accurate with his info.

He recently told me some key info regarding our first pick. "expect it to be Robert Griffin, because we are willing to trade 2 first rounders and at least a 3rd for him, and Mike really likes this kid."

I thought I'd relay this message with you all, take this as you want, but I trust this source.[/quote]

I hope your guy is right i really want RGIII on this team. My dream draft would be RGIII in the first round and Michael Brewster in the 2nd round.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;875381]Just heard some big news tonight from a certain Redskins front office-worker.

The worker has told me some big news in the past, which has later been accurate. Example, in 2009 he told me we were going to make a push to get jay cutler, before ESPN reported that he was officially on the trading block. In 2008 he told me if Colt Brennan was there in the later rounds, we would draft him. In 2010 he told me the team liked Trent Williams more than Russell Okung and he would be our pick if Detroit didn't take him.

The point is he's accurate with his info.

He recently told me some key info regarding our first pick. "expect it to be Robert Griffin, because we are willing to trade 2 first rounders and at least a 3rd for him, and Mike really likes this kid."

I thought I'd relay this message with you all, take this as you want, but I trust this source.[/quote]

i'd be ok with that. we need a franchise quarterback, and i love what rg3 brings to the table.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;875381]Just heard some big news tonight from a certain Redskins front office-worker.

The worker has told me some big news in the past, which has later been accurate. Example, in 2009 he told me we were going to make a push to get jay cutler, before ESPN reported that he was officially on the trading block. In 2008 he told me if Colt Brennan was there in the later rounds, we would draft him. In 2010 he told me the team liked Trent Williams more than Russell Okung and he would be our pick if Detroit didn't take him.

The point is he's accurate with his info.

He recently told me some key info regarding our first pick. "expect it to be Robert Griffin, because we are willing to trade 2 first rounders and at least a 3rd for him, and Mike really likes this kid."

I thought I'd relay this message with you all, take this as you want, but I trust this source.[/quote]

Add a top tier receiver in free agency, get some o-linemen, resign fred davis and I'd say top 8 offense.

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If I was in charge, I would trade up to third overall, assuming I could get a decent deal from the Vikings (no 2013 first rounder). Doing so would force the Rams' hand. Sure they still could trade the pick to someone for Griffin, or then they could take Griffin themselves, but I'd be totally okay with having Justin Blackmon or Matt Kalil as a contingency plan. Third overall is a good spot to be in this draft.

I think, ultimately, it would be a much cheaper way of landing Robert Griffin. The Browns aren't going to move up for him. The Dolphins or Seahawks might, but I think the number one most likely scenario where Griffin isn't around at number two is that the Rams take him.

I think if he's sitting there at fourth overall, Cleveland probably takes him. But I think they will be extremely hesitant to go up.

Obviously this only matters if there is a heavy bidding war for the second overall pick and relatively nothing for the third overall pick. It makes a lot more sense in that case to be in the third slot.

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Drafting RG3 compensates for a lack talent all around. That's why he's valued with a team like this.

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[quote=44Deezel;875378]Didn't Jennings miss the last game? Put a bonafide #1 on the Skins and they have plenty of talent. Anyone think Fred Davis and Chris Cooley couldn't get their stat on playing for Green Bay? Who are their all-world running backs again? If Rex were their QB would anyone know Jordy Nelson's name?

Isn't their O-line, the same one that made Aaron Rodgers one of the most sacked QBs in the league just a few years ago, all banged up right now? What's their D ranked again? QB play is the difference maker on that team.

If all it takes for Flynn to play at his current level is talent, well then just go get Dwayne Bowe, draft WR and O-line early and often and pencil us in as NFC East champs next year;).

If Brees was playing in NO with Bowe, Hankerson, Moss, Gaffney, Davis, Cooley, Helu, Royster and Hightower would there be peeps bemoaning his lack of talent. No, they'd still be scoring 30 plus a game. He'd make Paul, Austin and Armstrong viable fantasy options.

With a good QB and some additional parts on Offense, there's no reason the Skins couldn't drastically improve their Offensive production. And with 9 draft picks and free agency, there's no reason to believe they won't get the pieces they need. For the record, I'm in the get Flynn AND draft a rookie high camp. Hell, get another one late for good measure. Cover all the bases, hedge your bets![/quote]

I enjoyed reading this post. Lot of good points.

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[quote=GTripp0012;875394]If I was in charge, I would trade up to third overall, assuming I could get a decent deal from the Vikings (no 2013 first rounder). Doing so would force the Rams' hand. Sure they still could trade the pick to someone for Griffin, or then they could take Griffin themselves, but I'd be totally okay with having Justin Blackmon or Matt Kalil as a contingency plan. Third overall is a good spot to be in this draft.

I think, ultimately, it would be a much cheaper way of landing Robert Griffin. The Browns aren't going to move up for him. The Dolphins or Seahawks might, but I think the number one most likely scenario where Griffin isn't around at number two is that the Rams take him.

I think if he's sitting there at fourth overall, Cleveland probably takes him. But I think they will be extremely hesitant to go up.

Obviously this only matters if there is a heavy bidding war for the second overall pick and relatively nothing for the third overall pick. It makes a lot more sense in that case to be in the third slot.[/quote]

Might as well just wait to see who the Rams pick then try to move up if he's there. I doubt the Vikings consider trading the pick anyway until they know who went second.

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No way would I trade with the Vikings which would open up an opportunity for the Cleveland Browns to trade up with St.Louis and steal our QB. Yeah I said it, our QB:) I'm content with Bruce giving up 2 1st rounders. That's the price you have to pay for a franchise QB in today's passing league.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;875397]Might as well just wait to see who the Rams pick then try to move up if he's there. I doubt the Vikings consider trading the pick anyway until they know who went second.[/quote]That'd be the safe way to play it, but I think that pick gets a heck of a lot more expensive if Griffin is still there with Cleveland picking later. At that point, it might be just as costly as going to get the second pick.

By trading up to no. 3 a few days before the draft, it does define your intentions re: RG3, but with Cleveland sitting at no. 4, you're really not changing the market any. You just position yourself for a quarterback while taking the Rams out of their power position with that pick. They can take best offer for the pick or they can select Griffin themselves, but knowing very well that the Redskins (and Browns) are now direct competition to them for guys they want (Griffin, Kalil, Blackmon), it should make the Rams a lot more hesitant to trade the pick.

By trading up to three a couple days before the draft, you're basically beating everyone to the punch and killing the market for the Rams at no. 2.

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Ladies and Gentlemen, Chandler Harnish from his senior year.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3r2QIv_pyo[/ame]


I know it's a highlight tape, but impressive for a guy nobody is talking about yet.

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I like Harnish. If for some reason we dont get a QB in the first round I'd take a shot at him later.

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;875347]Do what you have to do to get RGIII or Luck. Just make the trade. No Flynn, no Hoyer (Really? Hoyer?) No Tannehill, No Foles, give the Rams 2012 1st rounder , 2013 1st rounder, 2012 3rd rounder, 2013 4th rounder or replace 2012 3rd rounder with 2012 2nd rounder and draft your QB.

As far as WR goes 3rd round possibilities: Ryan Broyles, Dwight Jones, Marvin McNutt, sign Vincent Jackson or Dwayne Bowe or DeSean Jackson.[/QUOTE]

If this were Facebook I would like this!

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I guess it makes sense to trade for #3 pick since it will be cheaper, but better have a backup plan for QB just in case some leap frogs us or rams take him. Cause after luck and griffin no other QB IMO is starter material in the draft. So if they go this route then they better have signed a veteran QB just in case.

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If RG3 is their guy, just trade up to #2 and grab him. Don't F around with the possibility of not getting him. Go big or go home.

[QUOTE]Right now it’s easy to be more intrigued by Griffin than anyone else. My preference: getting the best QB you can find is the option. If that means trading up for Griffin, then do it. Shanahan is not one to settle for a guy if he thinks he can land an elite player. There’s no guarantee with any player, but having to trade a couple picks for a guy I think can really play would not be a deterrent. To trade up high in the first round means you’re convinced the player will be elite. If you’re not convinced, don’t do it. There’s nothing the Redskins have needed more for a long time than a franchise QB. If that’s Griffin, get him and don’t hesitate.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: [url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/nfl/2012/01/redskins-mailbag-ask-john/2090416#ixzz1jLZseTks]Redskins mailbag: Ask John | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner[/url][/QUOTE]

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So, when are these trades actually agreed upon? Is it the day of the draft, minutes before the draft pick comes up, or is weeks prior? I've always assumed these trades are presented right before the team is on the clock for that valued pick. I'm sure they are presented offers from the other teams in advance before draft day, but I'm assuming they don't show their hand until they actually go to pick.

IF it's a case where nothing is set in stone until the team is on the clock, this is interesting to me. For starters, it's gutsy to just trade up to #3. You're assuming Seattle or Miami don't have anything substantial to offer to leap frog all the way up to #2, and you're probably right. BUT, you still have Cleveland, who seems to be the direct competition for the RG III sweepstakes. They have two number one picks in this year's draft. It wouldn't take much for them just to leap up to #2. And, I'm wondering if Cleveland would even HAVE to give up one of those first round picks? I mean, nothing would virtually change for the Rams, because if their pick is Blackmon or Kalil, then those guys are still going to be there at #4 (since the 'skins pick RG III at #3.) So, they might be willing to take a lesser trade with the Browns, move down to #4, and maybe the Browns give away second round picks? I guess the advantages are that the Rams give up virtually nothing by moving down, and they would pick up extra good picks in this year's draft instead of having to wait for future picks, even though those picks could be first rounders. It's a difference between having that juicy double whopper now or waiting later for the New York strip.

If the Browns have no intentions of moving up to #2 at all, then yes, the best move for the Redskins is to move up to #3, give up less, still get RG III. All I know is, I want a QB that can start from day one, and the only two I feel that are capable of that are Luck and Griffin.

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Well with Tannehill being hurt and Landry Jones not even coming out, it definitely makes RG3 that much more valuable...but the Rams know that, and last I heard two firsts and a third won't be enough

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[quote=Mattyk;875426]If RG3 is their guy, just trade up to #2 and grab him. Don't F around with the possibility of not getting him. Go big or go home.[/quote]

Ultimately I agree with this the most. If only Colt McCoy was set in stone to be Cleveland's franchise QB for the long term, then the Redskins would have wiggle room. But, ultimately, it takes a lot of guts to chance a move up to #3, give up picks but maybe not as much, and still wind up without a QB. That could either be the best move the Redskins have ever made, or the stupidest. Moving up to #2 is a no brainer. You're guaranteed a projected elite QB, whether if it's Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin III.

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[quote=SmootSmack;875428]Well with Tannehill being hurt and Landry Jones not even coming out, it definitely makes RG3 that much more valuable...but the Rams know that, and last I heard two firsts and a third won't be enough[/quote]

How about two firsts and a conditional pick that could turn into a 2nd?

Either way, for a team with so many needs, you would think the Rams would be crazy to turn something down like that.

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[quote=GTripp0012;875402]That'd be the safe way to play it, but I think that pick gets a heck of a lot more expensive if Griffin is still there with Cleveland picking later. At that point, it might be just as costly as going to get the second pick.

By trading up to no. 3 a few days before the draft, it does define your intentions re: RG3, but with Cleveland sitting at no. 4, you're really not changing the market any. You just position yourself for a quarterback [B]while taking the Rams out of their power position with that pick[/B]. They can take best offer for the pick or they can select Griffin themselves, but knowing very well that the Redskins (and Browns) are now direct competition to them for guys they want (Griffin, Kalil, Blackmon), it should make the Rams a lot more hesitant to trade the pick.

By trading up to three a couple days before the draft, [B]you're basically beating everyone to the punch and killing the market for the Rams at no. 2[/B].[/quote]

I get your overall logic of moving up to 3, but some of your points don't make sense to me. The Rams are in the power position simply because they pick ahead of us (& Browns). They will use that leverage to the very end I would imagine regardless of whether we trade up to 3 or not. If we're at 3 & they are still getting good offers for that pick, they'll trade it if it works for them.

If anything, us trading to 3 merely ups the price for Cleveland or others & makes the pick more valuable. The Rams are in a good position, they can get the player they want or land a lot of high round picks. That doesn't change that much if we trade up to 3 IMO.

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[quote=Mattyk;875430]How about two firsts and a conditional pick that could turn into a 2nd?

Either way, for a team with so many needs, you would think the Rams would be crazy to turn something down like that.[/quote]

Don't think they would turn that down. They are going to publically play the draft game though.

Someone mentioned trading up to 3 before the draft. Another team could leapfrog us on draft day to #2 and draft a QB, leaving us w/ no Luck or Griffin and the #3 pick.

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Last I heard, the Rams want at least this year's 1st and 2nd plus next year's 1st and possibly 3rd

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[quote=SmootSmack;875434]Last I heard, the Rams want at least this year's 1st and 2nd plus next year's 1st and possibly 3rd[/quote]

You tell STL to shove it!

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[quote=SmootSmack;875434]Last I heard, the Rams want at least this year's 1st and 2nd plus next year's 1st and possibly 3rd[/quote]

My source told me they are prepared to give up whatever is necessary to get RG3, and are prepared to give up two firsts and (don't quote me on this part) a third (or he said second and third; I don't remember).

He also said Shanahan is looking at it like this, whats the point of saving all these future picks, if his future here is donzo for next year, should he fail with a less quality player (Tannehill for example), than with a high energy-high quality player like RG3 who could bring your team to a winning record. Shanny also knows that snyder likes the big name. If us fans are going ''ahh tannehill'' snyder will here and agree and put Shanahan on a tighter lesh. If its RG3 the fans will like it based on potential, and snyder will like it because its a big name that will put fans in the seats, and it will certainly buy shanahan longer time here in DC. The High quality/potential guy will buy him time, the low quality guy won't.


As for other tid-bits he told me.

I asked him about Matt Flynn, he said he hasn't heard much about him.

Asked about Andrew Luck, he said we all like him, but we all know he's Indy bound.

I asked if we can trade or cut Dhall, he gave me a tight-lipped politically correct answer.

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How about Kirk Cousins in burgundy and gold? i feel like he's that under the radar guy that the skins can pick up

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[quote=CultBrennan59;875381]Just heard some big news tonight from a certain Redskins front office-worker.

The worker has told me some big news in the past, which has later been accurat

He recently told me some key info regarding our first pick. "expect it to be Robert Griffin, because we are willing to trade 2 first rounders and at least a 3rd for him, and Mike really likes this kid."

I thought I'd relay this message with you all, take this as you want, but I trust this source.[/quote]

Fingers crossed. Pajamas inside out. Clicking hush puppies heels together 3 times.

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[quote=smootsmack;875434]last i heard, the rams want at least this year's 1st and 2nd plus next year's 1st and possibly 3rd[/quote]

pay it! Now!!!

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[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1018515-2012-senior-bowl-ranking-every-prospect-who-will-be-attending/page/68]2012 Senior Bowl: Ranking Every Prospect Who Will Be Attending | Bleacher Report[/url]

Some great prospects will be at the game. Brian Quick WR App St.

Bobby Wagner ILB Utah (Compared to London Fletcher)

The Iowa State CB, said to be a great overall corner.

All the Big Ten and SEC Lineman are also intriguing to me at Guard, Tackle, and Center (also the FSU guy and the UAB guy has a lot of potential it sounds like)

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[quote=CultBrennan59;875459]My source told me they are prepared to give up whatever is necessary to get RG3, and are prepared to give up two firsts and (don't quote me on this part) a third (or he said second and third; I don't remember).

He also said Shanahan is looking at it like this, whats the point of saving all these future picks, if his future here is donzo for next year, should he fail with a less quality player (Tannehill for example), than with a high energy-high quality player like RG3 who could bring your team to a winning record. Shanny also knows that snyder likes the big name. If us fans are going ''ahh tannehill'' snyder will here and agree and put Shanahan on a tighter lesh. If its RG3 the fans will like it based on potential, and snyder will like it because its a big name that will put fans in the seats, and it will certainly buy shanahan longer time here in DC. The High quality/potential guy will buy him time, the low quality guy won't.


As for other tid-bits he told me.

I asked him about Matt Flynn, he said he hasn't heard much about him.

Asked about Andrew Luck, he said we all like him, but we all know he's Indy bound.

I asked if we can trade or cut Dhall, he gave me a tight-lipped politically correct answer.[/quote]

This year's 1st and 2nd and next year's 1st and 3rd? I'd be OK with that as long as they can land a true #1 in free agency and some O-line help. The RBs and TEs are plenty talented.... at least enough to make the Offense productive with good QB play.

They'd still have 6 picks this year and I believe 7 next year. They've shown they can find some solid players in the mid to late rounds. They could still bring Rex back and draft another QB late or bring in an undrafted guy.

But couldn't Cleveland trump our offer with 2 first round picks THIS year? We'd need them to make a run at Flynn.

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[quote=44Deezel;875712]
But couldn't Cleveland trump our offer with 2 first round picks THIS year? We'd need them to make a run at Flynn.[/quote]

With the price that high I actually see both us and Cleveland as less of a threat to trade up for RG3 and see Miami and Seattle suddenly as major players. Anyway at Smoots reported Rams price I'd rather sign Flynn. My price was a 1st and 2nd this year and a conditional 3rd that could turn into a 2nd next year.

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I can understand where Shanny is comming from, if he doesn't make the right move for the right guy it will be his last year in Washington the stakes are very high.

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2012 1st rounder
2012 3rd rounder
2013 1st rounder
2013 3rd rounder

for RGIII??? I'd do it.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;875701][url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1018515-2012-senior-bowl-ranking-every-prospect-who-will-be-attending/page/68]2012 Senior Bowl: Ranking Every Prospect Who Will Be Attending | Bleacher Report[/url]

Some great prospects will be at the game. Brian Quick WR App St.

Bobby Wagner ILB Utah (Compared to London Fletcher)

The Iowa State CB, said to be a great overall corner.

All the Big Ten and SEC Lineman are also intriguing to me at Guard, Tackle, and Center (also the FSU guy and the UAB guy has a lot of potential it sounds like)[/quote]

He does look like London Fletcher..check out his video

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17IRj4hzXZw]Bobby Wagner - LB - Utah State - YouTube[/ame]

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[quote=tstat0822;875469]How about Kirk Cousins in burgundy and gold? i feel like he's that under the radar guy that the skins can pick up[/quote]

i dont think so. i personally see him as nothing more than a backup/game manager.

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For a little perspective from SI. Here is the deal for Eli Manning: A 1st and 3rd in the draft year and 1st and 4th the following year. Seems like alot but they are reaping the benefits of having a very good qb. They picked 4th that year. Of course, I guess they could have stayed at 4 and picked up Rivers/Rothlesberger. I guess if you like a QB, you gotta go get him.

Accorsi offered the Giants' first- and third-round picks in '04, and an '05 first-rounder. "We still want Osi,'' Smith told him.

Tick, tick, tick ...

Two minutes left.

Accorsi's last, best offer.

"No Osi,'' he said. "That's still a deal-breaker. But we'll throw in a six next year.''

Pause on the line from San Diego.

Tick, tick, tick ...

"Make it a four,'' Smith said.

"I'll give you a five,'' Accorsi said.


Read more: [url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/01/16/divisionals/index.html#ixzz1jdKPmlX5]Eli Manning, Osi Umenyiora key New York Giants' upset over Green Bay Packers - Peter King - SI.com[/url]

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Mike: Right now it’s easy to be more intrigued by Griffin than anyone else. My preference: getting the best QB you can find is the option. If that means trading up for Griffin, then do it. Shanahan is not one to settle for a guy if he thinks he can land an elite player. There’s no guarantee with any player, but having to trade a couple picks for a guy I think can really play would not be a deterrent. To trade up high in the first round means you’re convinced the player will be elite. If you’re not convinced, don’t do it. There’s nothing the Redskins have needed more for a long time than a franchise QB. If that’s Griffin, get him and don’t hesitate.

JK


Read more at the Washington Examiner: [url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/nfl/2012/01/redskins-mailbag-ask-john/2090416#ixzz1jeqrBvUO]Redskins mailbag: Ask John | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner[/url]