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[quote=SmootSmack;878202]He's been struggling today though. Slow reaction time[/quote]

Heard any wrap up of the 1st day? Anybody DB's standing out or WRs? Thanks SS

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I'll refrain from commenting on South QBs till I've had the chance to see them.

Kirk Cousins most impressive QB from North today.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;878130]Is Cam Newton not in the senior bowl because he is on on NFL roster.[/quote]

WHY MARTY SHOTENHEIMER NOT IN SENOR BOWL? HE A SENOR.

lol but seriously, good info coming out so far. Keep it coming, especially considering my only sports related options at work are the 'Path and Fox Sports, which I can't even get onto because their website takes more power than my computer can afford to dish out.

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Neat article from the Rant:

[url=http://www.rantsports.com/washington-redskins/2012/01/23/2012-senior-bowl-players-redskins-fans-and-staff-should-have-on-their-radar/]2012 Senior Bowl Players Redskins Fans and Staff Should Have on their Radar | Washington Redskins[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;878231]Heard any wrap up of the 1st day? Anybody DB's standing out or WRs? Thanks SS[/quote]

Not much. Little harder for me to get quick access anymore. Not watching practices live or on the phone with Kiper etc afterward. Get my info piecemeal now

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Jerry Jones got interviewed down there today. He said the biggest difference between the Cowboys and Giants right now is.... wait for it.... Eli Manning. Yikes! Talk about a kick in the groin to Romo.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/23/jerry-jones-eli-is-the-biggest-difference-between-giants-and-cowboys/]Jerry Jones: Eli is the biggest difference between Giants and Cowboys | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=GMScud;878273]Jerry Jones got interviewed down there today. He said the biggest difference between the Cowboys and Giants right now is.... wait for it.... Eli Manning. Yikes! Talk about a kick in the groin to Romo.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/23/jerry-jones-eli-is-the-biggest-difference-between-giants-and-cowboys/]Jerry Jones: Eli is the biggest difference between Giants and Cowboys | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

I hope Jerry Jones lives forever. I feel very secure in the future of the Cowboys as long as he's in charge.

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[quote=SmootSmack;878093]Russell Wilson 5'10" 203 lbs.[/quote]
C'mon Smoot you gotta give him the 5/8s and you round off you got 5'11 ;)

Nah but seriously though, love this kid but he is a piney rooter I wonder how his height will effect his draft status and his opportunities at a fair chance to play at the next level

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Kendall Wright reminds me of Mike Wallace. Fast runs good routes and gets separation.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;878286]Kendall Wright reminds me of Mike Wallace. Fast runs good routes and gets separation.[/quote]

Yep. Lots to like there.

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Outside of Justin Blackmon, Kendall Wright, Mohamed Sanu, and Dwight Jones are all guys I'd love in the B&G.

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Lets just take the whole Oklahoma State team and draft them all. Weeden, Blackmon, Adcock, Martin.

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No on Weeden.

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Redskins scouts supposedly spent a little time speaking with Russell Wilson

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;878304]No on Weeden.[/quote]

I've been trying to figure out where he makes sense. I'm not so sure he makes sense for the Redskins but he can play and there must be some team that could use him

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[quote=SmootSmack;878327]Redskins scouts supposedly spent a little time speaking with Russell Wilson[/quote]

Having watched (in person and tv) many of his games here in NC, I'm not all that impressed with him. Good college football player, but I just don't see it at the next level.

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[quote=SmootSmack;878368]I've been trying to figure out where he makes sense. I'm not so sure he makes sense for the Redskins but he can play and there must be some team that could use him[/quote]

I'm not saying his skills fit the Skins, but he did have a good bowl game and he made all the throws. Strong arm for the long ball and he did roll out a few times. I was impressed with him and honestly I didn't have him on my radar. People wanted Luck and Barkley, I was looking at RGIII. Now that the QB crop is thinned and Luck and RGIII might be gone I watched Weeden because he was playing in the same game Luck was playing in and to me looked better then Luck. The bowl game didn't do Luck justice I'm sure.

I can't wait for the Combine cause I just have a feeling that there are going to be QB's who will improve their slot. I'm beginning to think RGIII will surpass Luck and possibly get picked by the Colts and Luck will fall.

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[quote=NC_Skins;878371]Having watched (in person and tv) many of his games here in NC, I'm not all that impressed with him. Good college football player, but I just don't see it at the next level.[/quote]

Having lived in Russell Wilson's hometown and having followed him, I have to disagree. He is accurate, makes good decisions, and honestly what they heck difference does an inch and half or less make. People say Brees isn't really 6'0". If he has been able to perform at the level he has been I see no reason why he can not do it at the next level given the experience of shorter QB's like Brees, Doug Flutie, etc.

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I've heard that the conversation with Wilson was as much about Peter Konz as anything else

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[quote=SkinzWin;878375]Having lived in Russell Wilson's hometown and having followed him, I have to disagree. He is accurate, makes good decisions, and honestly what they heck difference does an inch and half or less make. People say Brees isn't really 6'0". If he has been able to perform at the level he has been I see no reason why he can not do it at the next level given the experience of shorter QB's like Brees, Doug Flutie, etc.[/quote]

He's been below a 60% completion percentage passer for most of his career. He threw 3 INTs against ECU in 2010, and they had the worst ranked defense in division I.

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This throw seems like a "good decision" maker to you?

Finally get to have a day off to check out the coverage of the S B

Watch j fleming from OU, plays like a Carlos rogers type corner

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;878293]Outside of Justin Blackmon, Kendall Wright, Mohamed Sanu, and Dwight Jones are all guys I'd love in the B&G.[/QUOTE]

How about RG3 AND THEN Wright in the 2nd

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[quote=NC_Skins;878387]He's been below a 60% completion percentage passer for most of his career. He threw 3 INTs against ECU in 2010, and they had the worst ranked defense in division I.



This throw seems like a "good decision" maker to you?[/quote]

1. How many quarterback haven't had a bad game with multiple INT's?

2. How in the HELL is Russell Wilson's fault that they have the worst ranked defense? He's a QUARTERBACK.

3. It is preposterous that you say he had a bad throw, or a 3 INT game, so he sucks. Ever quarterback makes mistakes. NC State sucks.

Did he suck at Wisconsin this year???? No.
Is Sam Bradford really good? Yes.
Did he suck this year because his team is garbage and he had zero weapons to help him out? Yes.

Your argument has no logic, it simply pulls out single negative aspects of his game. Every player has those. Even Brady, Brees, Manning and Rodgers. You failed to mention that in his rookie year with a 55% completion percentage he went 17-1 TD to INT ratio. I'd say that's okay. Over 3000 yards Sophomore through Senior season. Look at what he does when you put him on a good team. OVER 70% Completion percentage! That's Brees and Rodgers numbers right there.

SEASON----CMP---ATT---YDS---CMP%---TD---INT------RAT
2011--------225---309---3175---72.8-----33-----4------191.8
2010--------308---527---3563---58.4-----28-----14-----127.5
2009--------224---378---3027---59.3-----31-----11-----147.8
2008--------150---275---1955---54.5-----17-----1------133.9

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If anything, Wilson's ability to come in first year, didnt have to sit out and immediately elevate Wisconsin into the national computer championship discussion is an amazing task. Wilson played extremely well this year, after playing on average to bad NC state teams.

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[quote=SkinzWin;878402]1. How many quarterback haven't had a bad game with multiple INT's?[/quote]

Against the worst ranked defense? Not many.


[quote=SkinzWin;878402]2. How in the HELL is Russell Wilson's fault that they have the worst ranked defense? He's a QUARTERBACK.[/quote]

Reread what I said. I wasn't talking about NC State's defense. I said he threw 3 INTS against ECU, and they (ECU) had the worst ranking defense in the NCAA that year. Throwing 3 INTs against Va Tech might be one thing, throwing 3 INTs against ECU is another.



[quote=SkinzWin;878402]3. It is preposterous that you say he had a bad throw, or a 3 INT game, so he sucks. Ever quarterback makes mistakes. NC State sucks. [/quote]

I didn't say he sucks. I said I didn't see him producing at the next level. Of course every QB makes a mistake, but good ones don't throw 3 INTs against a really really bad defense.

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I like Wilson in the 3rd or 4th

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Interesting note from someone there: "The South coaching staff is running a much tighter ship than the North. South roster looks much more serious about getting work done and playing football"

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[quote=SmootSmack;878416]Interesting note from someone there: "The South coaching staff is running a much tighter ship than the North. South roster looks much more serious about getting work done and playing football"[/quote]

Interesting. Shouldn't come as too much of a surprise I guess. Skins staff >> Vikings staff. Shanny is always all business. I couldn't see him running a loose practice.

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[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Ten-Prospects-To-Watch-At-the-Senior-Bowl/40d51ba7-e564-479a-8c19-7623c323d57c]Ten Prospects To Watch At the Senior Bowl[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;878418]Interesting. Shouldn't come as too much of a surprise I guess. Skins staff >> Vikings staff. Shanny is always all business. I couldn't see him running a loose practice.[/quote]

That same Vikings staff outcoached the more "business" side of the Redskins coaches in the regular season. Frazier reminds me of Tony Dungy.

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[quote=NC_Skins;878387]He's been below a 60% completion percentage passer for most of his career. He threw 3 INTs against ECU in 2010, and they had the worst ranked defense in division I.

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This throw seems like a "good decision" maker to you?[/quote]

Wilson seemed to make big strides at Wisconsin. He has upside and that's what you have to look at. Not one game in 2010. He's not a 1st or 2nd rounder but if he's there 4th or 5th round then that's good value. He's only going to improve with more coaching.

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[quote=NC_Skins;878408]Against the worst ranked defense? Not many.




Reread what I said. I wasn't talking about NC State's defense. I said he threw 3 INTS against ECU, and they (ECU) had the worst ranking defense in the NCAA that year. Throwing 3 INTs against Va Tech might be one thing, throwing 3 INTs against ECU is another.





I didn't say he sucks. I said I didn't see him producing at the next level. Of course every QB makes a mistake, but good ones don't throw 3 INTs against a really really bad defense.[/quote]

Okay, I did misread that. But even still, ECU has VT's number and has beat them several times. Some teams/schemes just match up well even if they are not good. You can't tell me that because a team/player lost to a bad team that means that team/player is bad. Or that you shouldn't take a look at them in the draft because of one performance.

Drew Brees had 269 YDS, 1 TD, 2 INT in their loss to the ST. LOUIS RAMS!!!
Drew Brees had 383 YDS, 1 TD, 3 INT in their loss to the Tampa Bay Bucs!!!
Does that mean Brees or the Saints are bad. No it doesn't.

My point is this. You can't take one bad game by one bad team as an indicator of a player's entire work. Any team can beat any other team on any given Sunday, Saturday, Friday, Monday (or during parts of the regular season, Thursday)

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[quote=skinsfaninok;878394]How about RG3 AND THEN Wright in the 2nd[/quote]

If Wright falls to the 2nd and you said yourself no way RGIII falls to 6th so how would we get him and still have our 2nd rounder?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;878393]Finally get to have a day off to check out the coverage of the S B

Watch j fleming from OU, plays like a Carlos rogers type corner[/quote]

So he puts himself in position but drops the int??

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[quote=SBXVII;878061]Foles and Weeden. I'd dump Grossman and Beck as soon as I could or just not resign them and prepare for taking a QB in FA and drafting a QB. I'd pick up one more as a UDFA and have all 3 compete with Crompton. To be honest I'm not sure I even want Crompton.[/quote]

Good idea; I support your plan, but we have a contract with Beck for 2012 for $1.000,000. I say we dump him anyway and just take the hit, whatever that number turns out to be.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;878443]So he puts himself in position but drops the int??[/quote]

Until he gets pissed his team won't resign him to a major contract since he thinks he's teh hsit and can't find anyone to sign him in FA except to a one year contract where he makes 6 INTs.

PS... Carlos had 6 INTs this year. Which is only two less than the total EIGHT interceptions he had TOTAL in his 6 years with the Skins.... UGHHHH

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[quote=SkinzWin;878450]Until he gets pissed his team won't resign him to a major contract since he thinks he's teh hsit and can't find anyone to sign him in FA except to a one year contract where he makes 6 INTs.

PS... Carlos had 6 INTs this year. Which is only two less than the total EIGHT interceptions he had TOTAL in his 6 years with the Skins.... UGHHHH[/quote]

I know. Amazingly disguising isn't it?

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I don't know what NFL Network is doing with the Senior bowl coverage this year. The south practice was not shown at all yesterday that I could find and they practice again in a few minutes and I don't see it on the NFL Network schedule. In previous years I remember them showing every practice live.

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[quote=celts32;878462]I don't know what NFL Network is doing with the Senior bowl coverage this year. The south practice was not shown at all yesterday that I could find and they practice again in a few minutes and I don't see it on the NFL Network schedule. In previous years I remember them showing every practice live.[/quote]

Practice starts at 5:30pm on the NFL channel.

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[quote=skinsfan69;878427]That same Vikings staff outcoached the more "business" side of the Redskins coaches in the regular season. Frazier reminds me of Tony Dungy.[/quote]

I don't know about that. The Vikings had a bad year. I can't remember the details of our game, but I just don't think highly of LF as a coach. I could be proven wrong, but just doesn't seem like he's coaching material from what I've seen. Just an opinion.