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i think we should draft robert gallery in the 2nd round or trade for steve hutchinson. but seriously, i'm kind of glad carlson signed with the vikings. a 2 te set with davis and cooley sounds doable. i want ross or newman, the rest we can find in the draft

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[quote=Chico23231;899408]its kinda tough to compare being that Laron hasnt played consistently on the field the last 2 years. I dont this is a situation where you can compare. If Laron is 100% healthy, its no comparison, Laron is a better player.[/quote]We can compare Landry the last two years to Meriweather the last two years just how they were and still conclude that Landry was worth about $5 million more per year than Meriweather signed for.

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[quote=vallin21;899409]Still think we need another S... Not sold on Gomes as a starter[/quote]

Totally agree, but choices are scarce this go round. Look to fill the need in the draft.

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Word I meant third rd and 4th rd...thanks fellas

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[quote=GTripp0012;899404]Sell me on this one. And...go.[/quote]

I would not waste my time as I don't have the time you have to writing long wind post about how awful the Redskins are.

The US is experiencing some of the nicest weather in March that it has ever seen; go out and enjoy. Knock off some of that pale you have grown over the years sitting behind a computer screen crying about every Redskin's move.

You are wasting your twenties on football blogging.

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[quote=The Goat;899399]Whoever said draft a safety in the third rd has a pretty good idea. We def need another prototypical safety, even if Barnes converts to one.

...so RT in the 2nd rd and safety in the 3rd. Guard in the 4th...[/quote]

im ok with the signing, low risk high reward. but i think we need to still address this position whether it be picking up reggie nelson at FS or drafting one in the 3rd. IMO i think Barnes is below average at best as a player, he always seems to be out of position and when he is he is always flailing around and missing tackles.

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[quote=GTripp0012;899391]I'm waiting on the first person to justify this signing as being an upgrade on Landry. So I can laugh at them.[/quote]
He does'nt have an achillies injury that will keep him from playing the rest of his career. Also, he probably came real cheap.

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[quote=GTripp0012;899391]I'm waiting on the first person to justify this signing as being an upgrade on Landry. So I can laugh at them.[/quote]


Im not Meriweather fan and its definitely not an upgrade but i would suspect Merriweather is a hell of a lot cheaper than Landry is gonna be. So at a cost standpoint Meriweather may give us more options. Maybe we can still keep LL?

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[quote=mredskins;899414]I would not waste my time as I don't have the time you have to writing long wind post about how awful the Redskins are.

The US is experiencing some of the nicest weather in March that it has ever seen; go out and enjoy. Knock off some of that pale you have grown over the years sitting behind a computer screen crying about every Redskin's move.

You are wasting your twenties on football blogging.[/quote]I would suggest you re-direct your obvious frustration at the Redskins instead of me.

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[quote=mredskins;899397]Are you ever happy with any move? Ever?[/quote]

Nope. He's not.

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[quote=GTripp0012;899391]I'm waiting on the first person to justify this signing as being an upgrade on Landry. So I can laugh at them.[/quote]

Can you prove he's not a upgrade?

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[quote=mlmpetert;899417]Im not Meriweather fan and its definitely not an upgrade but [B]i would suspect Merriweather is a hell of a lot cheaper than Landry is gonna be. So at a cost standpoint Meriweather may give us more options.[/B] Maybe we can still keep LL?[/quote]There you go. There's plenty of time to find the solution to the problem at safety. The only question is: are the Redskins looking?

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[quote=Alvin Walton;899403]Landry who?
He missed 16 games in the last three years.
All Meriweather has to do is show up in pads and its an instant upgrade.[/quote]

Exactly!! Can almost say the same for Atogwe. I mean if anything safety play should be better this year than last but we still need to add another.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;899416]He does'nt have an achillies injury that will keep him from playing the rest of his career. Also, he probably came real cheap.[/quote]

This

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[quote=NC_Skins;899420]Can you prove he's not a upgrade?[/quote]He's been benched for rookies with limited upside in two different cities. It would be like Landry getting benched for Anderson Russell.

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[quote=GTripp0012;899418]I would suggest you re-direct your obvious frustration at the Redskins instead of me.[/quote]


Dude your complaining is growing old and folks are getting tired of hearing you bitch.

I am not at all frustrated with the Skins they are a hobby of mine to follow. you know a break from my actual real life problems.They are obvious more then that to you, which is quit sad.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;899416]He does'nt have an achillies injury that will keep him from playing the rest of his career. Also, he probably came real cheap.[/quote]

He also doesn't have to worry about diseases from monkey bites.


[quote=mredskins;899426]Dude your complaining is growing old and folks are getting tired of hearing you bitch.

I am not at all frustrated with the Skins they are a hobby of mine to follow. you know a break from my actual real life problems.They are obvious more then that to you, which is quit sad.[/quote]


That's who he is. I don't think I've ever seen him happy about the team. We have a tiny core of inhouse pessimists and he's one of them. I am not sure how anyone who never actually roots for a team can consider themselves a fan of the team. They write long-winded posts trying to prove themselves right instead of joining in on the online tailgating party that brings us all here together.

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[quote=GTripp0012;899425]He's been benched for rookies with limited upside in two different cities. It would be like Landry getting benched for Anderson Russell.[/quote]

He's also made 2 pro-bowls (as shitty as that is) and how many has LL made? The only reason LL hasn't been benched because his replacements are shittier.

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Hopefully Meriweather will get his head on straight and become the stud that his talent reflects. In the meantime he's just a guy. And that's ok for now.

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I like LL but let's face it, the guy just hasn't been able to stay healthy the last 2 years.

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Like Dan Graziano said on twitter, you could be Ronnie Lott but if you arent on the field you arent helping anyone. In that regard just about any player is an upgrade to Landry.

I do agree that this isnt the solution but more like 1 possible solution.

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Get Landry next lol

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[quote=Mattyk;899432]I like LL but let's face it, the guy just hasn't been able to stay healthy the last 2 years.[/quote]

He was one of my favorite players when on the field.

He's become a liability though and we all have to accept that the end has come and move on.

The Skins have. We should too.

There are so many could-have-beens for EVERY team in the NFL. LaRon, Thomas/Kelly, Arrington, Heath Shul...[IMG]http://cawley.typepad.com/blog/Puking%20Pumpkin.gif[/IMG]




Sorry, that guy still sickens me to think about.

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[quote=NC_Skins;899428]He's also made 2 pro-bowls (as shitty as that is) and how many has LL made? The only reason LL hasn't been benched because [B]his replacements are shittier[/B].[/quote]Which is the big problem with this signing, at least on March 15.

Plenty of time exists to make this look like an attempt at buying low on a guy who might be on his last chance. But without a subsequent move, then a buy low opportunity based on potential "he'll play [B]if[/B] he does what we know he can" becomes foolish "he'll play well [B]because[/B] we picked him up."

So let's table my reaction on this one til we have a complete picture of the plan.

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[quote=mlmpetert;899417]Im not Meriweather fan and its definitely not an upgrade but i would suspect Merriweather is a hell of a lot cheaper than Landry is gonna be. So at a cost standpoint Meriweather may give us more options. Maybe we can still keep LL?[/quote]

Slightly agree... Meriweather is somewhat of a headcase (brawl at the U) but this, like many have said, is a low risk/high reward deal... If he plays well great, if not we dump him... He's not a scrub (2 time pro bowler, former 1st round pick, and pretty durable) and with Morris as our DB's coach he might be regain motivation, become more mature, and be more coachable, knowing that if it doesn't work out here, he's done; With Meriweather I think his problem is more mental (attitude, maturity, and discipline) than his talent

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I personally think this is a lateral move more than anything. Is he a upgrade? No. Is he a downgrade? No. He's been benched twice now for stuff that LL does repeatedly. What he isn't though is injured. LL on the other hand is.


[url=http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-10-13/sports/chi-bears-to-bench-safeties-harris-meriweather-20111013_1_wright-and-conte-chicago-bears-coach-twitter-vxmcclure23]Bears to bench safeties Harris, Meriweather - Chicago Tribune[/url]

[quote]Meriweather played a bit reckless throughout the game, opting for big hits rather than wrapping up for the tackle. The former New England Patriot seems to be having a tough time adjusting to a new defensive system.[/quote]


[url=http://articles.boston.com/2011-09-04/sports/30113405_1_training-camp-patriots-nick-caserio]Meriweather cut loose by Patriots - Boston.com[/url]

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[quote=GTripp0012;899421]There you go. There's plenty of time to find the solution to the problem at safety. The only question is: are the Redskins looking?[/quote]


I dont really think it matters if theyre looking or not. I dont think theres anything else that can be done at the saftey spot this year. Maybe LL or Reggie Nelson, but im not so sure about either of them being anything more then a stop gap. We already have stop gaps.

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I assume our draft plan is going to take one of the weak safeties that somehow fall to us in the third and then maybe beef up the line with the rest of the picks.

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[quote=NC_Skins;899439]I personally think this is a lateral move more than anything. Is he a upgrade? No. Is he a downgrade? No. He's been benched twice now for stuff that LL does repeatedly. What he isn't though is injured. LL on the other hand is.


[url=http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-10-13/sports/chi-bears-to-bench-safeties-harris-meriweather-20111013_1_wright-and-conte-chicago-bears-coach-twitter-vxmcclure23]Bears to bench safeties Harris, Meriweather - Chicago Tribune[/url]




[url=http://articles.boston.com/2011-09-04/sports/30113405_1_training-camp-patriots-nick-caserio]Meriweather cut loose by Patriots - Boston.com[/url][/quote]we get that you never liked Laron Landry. Stll, Landry always plays hard, while Meriweather is known to take plays off.

I think it's that last part that the Redskins think they can scare out of him. And to that I say: best of luck to them.

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[quote=mlmpetert;899440]I dont really think it matters if theyre looking or not. I dont think theres anything else that can be done at the saftey spot this year. Maybe LL or Reggie Nelson, but im not so sure about either of them being anything more then a stop gap. We already have stop gaps.[/quote]

Agreed, the draft is our best hope at finding a bona-fide starter.

I have the feeling this season, we may have to outscore our opponents. We'll be unleashing the deep ball on our opponents (with success) and they'll be trying to do it to us. Our front 7 will be rock solid, so they'll need to attack our lack of safeties and our ball-hawking CB who goes for interceptions over tackles at times.


Should be a fun season though.

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[quote=vallin21;899438]Slightly agree... Meriweather is somewhat of a headcase (brawl at the U) but this, like many have said, is a low risk/high reward deal... If he plays well great, if not we dump him... He's not a scrub (2 time pro bowler, former 1st round pick, and pretty durable) [B]and with Morris as our DB's coach he might be regain motivation, become more mature, and be more coachable, knowing that if it doesn't work out here, he's done;[/B] With Meriweather I think his problem is more mental (attitude, maturity, and discipline) than his talent[/quote]


I do think if anyone can strighten Merriweather out it will be Morris.

Anyone think Merriweather will also play special teams?

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[quote=vallin21;899438]Slightly agree... Meriweather is somewhat of a headcase (brawl at the U) but this, like many have said, is a low risk/high reward deal... If he plays well great, if not we dump him... He's not a scrub (2 time pro bowler, former 1st round pick, and pretty durable) and with Morris as our DB's coach he might be regain motivation, become more mature, and be more coachable, knowing that if it doesn't work out here, he's done; With Meriweather I think his problem is more mental (attitude, maturity, and discipline) than his talent[/quote]

I'm not sure I buy that given how last season with the Bucs turned out. It seems like players started to quickly tune him out. He might be more effective on a micro level and for only a year, but I wonder how much he can actually help.

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[quote=Monkeydad;899419]Nope. He's not.[/quote]

Ever...

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[quote=GTripp0012;899421]There you go. There's plenty of time to find the solution to the problem at safety. The only question is: are the Redskins looking?[/quote]

Can't look but so much when there isn't anything there. There is no Safety pool in FA this year. We are most definitely going to have to address this issue in the draft, and I am okay doing that.

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[quote=Monkeydad;899447]Agreed, the draft is our best hope at finding a bona-fide starter.

[B]I have the feeling this season, we may have to outscore our opponents. [/B] We'll be unleashing the deep ball on our opponents (with success) and they'll be trying to do it to us. Our front 7 will be rock solid, so they'll need to attack our lack of safeties and our ball-hawking CB who goes for interceptions over tackles at times.


Should be a fun season though.[/quote]

Yup. Redskins fans should prepare for higher scoring games. Let's hope that we come out on the right side more often than not.

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[quote=SkinzWin;899456]Can't look but so much when there isn't anything there. There is no Safety pool in FA this year. We are most definitely going to have to address this issue in the draft, and I am okay doing that.[/quote]Well, here's the thing: there IS a pretty nice safety pool out there, especially since the Redskins' standards are merely someone who can play the position.

But the Redskins have focused their free agent efforts on:

1) Players 28 years old and younger
2) Not having to deal with Landry's sh-t anymore.

And that closes the market considerably, to the point where you could entertain the notion that the Redskins beat themselves before it opened. I get why Meriweather: physically superior to other guys on the market and replaces what they thought they had in Landry. But it's a significant down grade, and the $2.5 million of cap room it will take to add him limits what other moves the team can make.

So while it's cheap, it also forces their hand.

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[quote=GTripp0012;899446]we get that you never liked Laron Landry. Stll, Landry always plays hard, while Meriweather is known to take plays off.
[/quote]

Like has nothing to do with it. LL has the physical ability to be the best safety have ever played this game. What did Ed Reed do when he first came into the league? He spent a many of nights over at Ray Lewis house watching film and learning. Have we heard anything of the sort from LL? All we hear from LL is how he's getting his swole on at the gym. He plays the position with no discipline (much like Meriweather) and fancies the big hits instead of the sound tackling. It doesn't help when you get up and start flexing after you just gave up a 25 yard first down either. /facepalm

Like has nothing to do with it.

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[quote=Monkeydad;899447]Agreed, the draft is our best hope at finding a bona-fide starter.

[B]I have the feeling this season, we may have to outscore our opponents.[/B] We'll be unleashing the deep ball on our opponents (with success) and they'll be trying to do it to us. Our front 7 will be rock solid, so they'll need to attack our lack of safeties and our ball-hawking CB who goes for interceptions over tackles at times.


Should be a fun season though.[/quote]I get the same feeling.

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[quote=Monkeydad;899427]He also doesn't have to worry about diseases from monkey bites.





That's who he is. I don't think I've ever seen him happy about the team. We have a tiny core of inhouse pessimists and he's one of them. I am not sure how anyone who never actually roots for a team can consider themselves a fan of the team. They write long-winded posts trying to prove themselves right instead of joining in on the online tailgating party that brings us all here together.[/quote]

Exactly well put. It is not just GTripp I am frustrated with. I don't know what else folks want from this team; they seem to be doing everything they can to field a winner.

They are just complaining to to complain.

When they go to heaven they will probably complain the clouds are to fluffy.

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Hate this, he's terrible.