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Our secondary is in for a real long year.

re: Update: Redskins Add S Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams and CB Leigh Torrence
 

I agree w/Matty, seems SOOOO long ago that Torrence was here. When I saw that we signed him, I immediately thought back to JLC's time on the insider at wash post, and how he dissed the staff decision to cut Torrence. In hindsight, he may've had it right, since GW went to NO & Torrence played there for almost 4 years!

Welcome back Leigh Torrence, good luck making the team.

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As competition for the nickel, I say Torrence is a good move. Plus he's a good locker room guy. For those down on the secondary, we still have the draft and cuts after that to pick through. All is not lost. We made it through last year with our two starting safeties either hurt or ineffective.

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Good depth signings. Especially Williams.

We need bodies in the secondary and should draft a few more.

We may end up being OK after all in the secondary. Not great, but good enough to survive and outscore the opponents.

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[quote=Monkeydad;908103]Good depth signings. [B]Especially Williams[/B].

We need bodies in the secondary and should draft a few more.

We may end up being OK after all in the secondary. Not great, but good enough to survive and outscore the opponents.[/quote]

If he is healthy, he's probably our best safety.

I think right now C. Griffin easily beats our Torrence as the nickle which is not saying much.

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This whole offseason has seen no one added [B]yet[/B] to the roster that other teams will have to specifically game plan for.

I need a (yawn inserted here) nap!

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Griffin will change that. He'll make Garcon into a legit #1 also. Every WR will be a deep threat, which will open up running lanes for our QB and RBs.

Our offense should be explosive and a lot of fun to watch. It's the D I'm worried about now, specifically the secondary. LB will take a big hit without Fletcher but we still have 'Rak and Kerrigan. Riley and Alexander are good also, but London is the leader of the group and still plays at his normal high level. Our D-Line is the best part of our D, especially with Jarvis Jenkins coming back.

I really think we're going to just have to outscore the opponent every week to win and most weeks, I think we will. We'll torch their secondaries, they'll torch ours. Luckily, we have a scary pass rush to slow things down but if they get time to throw, we're in trouble.

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[quote=Mattyk;908100]As competition for the nickel, I say Torrence is a good move. Plus he's a good locker room guy. For those down on the secondary, we still have the draft and cuts after that to pick through. All is not lost. We made it through last year with our two starting safeties either hurt or ineffective.[/quote]

Right, plus the 2 corners are back, albeit they're not great, I think both are good. I liked what I saw from Gomes, look for him to improve. And they put together a lot of vet depth, someone out of that group of Barnes, Williams, Griffin, Torrence & Meriweather will need to emerge. I think we all know what we have in Doughty, solid but not great at SS.

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I'd like to see how Jenkins fits into this DL. I don't remember him having a ton of production coming out of school or blowing scouts away at the combine last year. I do remember a high motor and good agility. Weak upper body?

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[quote=RGIII;908123]I'd like to see how Jenkins fits into this DL. I don't remember him having a ton of production coming out of school or blowing scouts away at the combine last year. I do remember a high motor and good agility. Weak upper body?[/quote]he's going to be the next marc boutte, i can feel it

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camp bodies

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[quote=Mattyk;908003]At Fletcher's age his production could fall off very fast and sudden. Who knows if he's even playing in 2 or 3 years.


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Disagree, apart from the obvious risk of injury. London is arguably the most dedicated guy on the roster (to his health) and shows more fire in his belly year after year. I think he's set for at least two and probably three years, barring injury of course.

...looking at London's body type though and his excellent technique and injury just isn't a big worry IMO.

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[quote=RGIII;908123]I'd like to see how Jenkins fits into this DL. I don't remember him having a ton of production coming out of school or blowing scouts away at the combine last year. I do remember a high motor and good agility. Weak upper body?[/quote]

He was having arguably the best training camp of any D-lineman last year as a rookie before he got hurt. I fully expect him to push Carriker for a starting spot at DE this year.

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At first glance at the TV this morning, I thought it said we signed Terrance Newman. I almost threw my bowl of cereal.

I forgot all about Leigh Torrence. He should be safe from Bountygate suspensions...he would have had to actually hurt someone.



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[quote=The Goat;908184]Disagree, apart from the obvious risk of injury. London is arguably the most dedicated guy on the roster (to his health) and shows more fire in his belly year after year. I think he's set for at least two and probably three years, barring injury of course.

...looking at London's body type though and his excellent technique and injury just isn't a big worry IMO.[/quote]

At his age you just don't know. It's happened to plenty of guys before. I'm not predicting anything, just saying with a guy his age it's something to keep in mind.

I think he's lost maybe a half step in the past couple of years. Nothing that he isn't able to compensate for with his smarts, but the fact is he's an old player.

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[quote=Monkeydad;908211]At first glance at the TV this morning, I thought it said we signed Terrance Newman. I almost threw my bowl of cereal.[/quote]i wanted newman

any word on his contract?

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;908067]The Redskins are clearly not confident in Kevin Barnes. The things I like about Barnes besides him being a former Terp is he shows lots of hustle. [B]What I don't like about Barnes is that he struggles in coverage. [/B]
At least we'll see Torrence and Barnes compete in preseason for the nickle back position.

As for Madieu Williams is another former Terripin. I'd be more comfortable seeing him starting @ SS instead of Meriweather.[/quote]


A defensive back who "struggles in coverage" is a liability. There is just no way to get around that...

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[quote=los panda;908228]i wanted newman

any word on his contract?[/quote]

looks like he will be busy chasing WRs into the endzone in a Bengals uniform.

Newman is 34 no thanks

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tanard jackson wouldve been a better pickup than both of these 2 put together

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These are swing players, there's no way they're starters.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;908277][B]A defensive back who "struggles in coverage" is a liability[/B]. There is just no way to get around that...[/quote]
Sage wisdom.............

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;908282]tanard jackson wouldve been a better pickup than both of these 2 put together[/quote]

Gotta agree with this ^

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maybe tanard would get me tickets for pop warner memories

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[quote=los panda;908228]i wanted newman

any word on his contract?[/quote]

Man, I'm glad you aren't running this ball club. That is unless your explicit purpose of giving him a contract was to pick up balls during and after practice and fill up the cups of Gatorade on game day...


On second thought, those balls would probably still stand a good chance of taking a funny hop and getting by him just like all those WR have!

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;908282]tanard jackson wouldve been a better pickup than both of these 2 put together[/quote]

I don't know if I want another player that has a history or drug-related suspension or another safety with health concerns.

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[quote=Ruhskins;908512]I don't know if I want another player that has a history or drug-related suspension or another safety with health concerns.[/quote]

i want a real playmaker safety on the team, sign him to a 1 year deal, hopefully he has turned it around and is growing up hes still young.

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[quote=SkinzWin;908502]Man, I'm glad you aren't running this ball club. That is unless your explicit purpose of giving him a contract was to pick up balls during and after practice and fill up the cups of Gatorade on game day...


On second thought, those balls would probably still stand a good chance of taking a funny hop and getting by him just like all those WR have![/quote]another camp body could hardly hurt

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We're in definite need of some improvement at safety!! I would bring anyone w/ potential into camp oh...wait...we don't have the cap room :(

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[quote=The Goat;908542]We're in definite need of some improvement at safety!! I would bring anyone w/ potential into camp oh...wait...we don't have the cap room :([/quote]

I agree. I'm really not sure if the Redskins improved at the safety positions this offseason. Atogwe gets released and Landry goes to FA and signs with the New York Jets. In their place, the Redskins sign Brandon Meriweather and Madieu Williams. I like the addition of Williams, but Meriweather has shown so much inconsistency in his game for the past couple of seasons despite going to two pro bowls.

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[quote=Ruhskins;908512]I don't know if I want another player that has a history or drug-related suspension or another safety with health concerns.[/quote]

I know you didn't want him, but we sure as hell got him lol. For better or worse he's ours now. We'll see where this goes though, especially with his questionable history.

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Nice, I thought the boat had sailed on him but I'm glad that at the very least we are adding multiple options/possibilities at safety.

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Great signing!!!! I feel a little better about our secondary

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I like the low-risk, but potential high-yield signing.

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nice pick up. our safety play should be significantly improved this year which is going to be a major upgrade on the defense. Good job by the FO in that department

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I LOVE the signing of Tanard Jackson. I'd like to know what his contract and cap figures are like though. If we managed to give him the same sort of cheap "prove yourself" contract that we wanted to give Landry then i say it's a great addition. He very well could easily enter the 2012 season as a starter.

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great great pickup, i really like it. i like this signing the best this offseason other than Garcon and Morgan. I think this move can really pay off, i think our starters at safety will be Jackson at free and merriweather at strong.

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Safe to say we can cross out FS off our list of draft needs (at least this year)... You guys agree?

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[quote=mooby;908617]I know you didn't want him, but we sure as hell got him lol. For better or worse he's ours now. We'll see where this goes though, especially with his questionable history.[/quote]

Well I am sure Raheem Morris had a lot of input and he should know Jackson better than anyone. I just hope the team's coaching leadership does a good job at keeping order inside and outside the locker room, since now we have two starters and a potential starter with drug-related suspensions.

I think the more reason why we need Fletcher's leadership. And I am glad to hear that the team is pushing to sign him before Monday. I am also glad the team is bringing safeties to compete, given that I see this as the team's #1 need right now.