[QUOTE=wolfeskins][QUOTE=saden1]Defensive player of the year? Sorry to tell you this buddy but LaVar is not that good. Maybe if he was Julius Peppers, yes, but that he is not. How many people in here would trade LaVar for Peppers?




two different positions so some people would trade and some would not. both are better than the other at their respected position. i didn't say he would have been d p of the year , i said he had a good chance and i stand by that statement. he had been voted to 2 or 3 consecutive probowls and was just about to be part of the #1 d in the nfc and , in my opinion, lavar would have flurished in greg william's defensive system.[/QUOTE]


There's a poll, who would trade Lavar, for Pepper's? It would take me about 1/2 a second to send Lavar packing for that one.

Would LaVar make the skins D better? Of course.

Is he going to make it so much better he's worth the dough? Probably not!

He's an athletic linebacker and a personallity. He's easily marketable (besides being a real cock when it comes to letting anyone use his name, etc) and pretends like he wants to be a leader. He's a good player, and I like him, but he's high on the overrated list. He's well above par, but he's sitting #2 or #3 on my overrated list. Ray Lewis has the #1 seed all taken care of with a year that really wasn't good and since he's Ray Lewis gets all the credit in the world for it.

Every team has their share of 'overrated players'. I'd be willing to bet there are plenty of Bears fans that think Urlacher is overrated, Dolphins fans that think Zack Thomas is overrated, Redskins errr I mean Broncos fans that think Bailey is overrated, etc.

Personally I'm a big LaVar fan, he's probably my favorite current Redskin if I had to name one.

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Personally I'm a big LaVar fan, he's probably my favorite current Redskin if I had to name one.[/QUOTE]

Same here. Springs has grown on me too. But Lavar is by far my favorite.

[QUOTE=offiss]


There's a poll, who would trade Lavar, for Pepper's? It would take me about 1/2 a second to send Lavar packing for that one.





yea, and when peppers gets hurt you'll probably want to trade him away too.

heh, LaVar has been labeled overrated for some time. He's exciting to watch and has a personallity like McNabb's that draws the media to him. However, Peppers is an amazing player who would impact our defense more. I'd like to see a poll on who you'd take - peppers or lavar. It would be interesting (assuming no salary cap implications, etc.)

that would be a tough poll to answer because peppers is , without a doubt, a very good player but i just have to see lavar play a full season in greg williams system before i could even think about trading him.

[QUOTE=wolfeskins]that would be a tough poll to answer because peppers is , without a doubt, a very good player but i just have to see lavar play a full season in greg williams system before i could even think about trading him.[/QUOTE]


Well there's the difference between the 2 it doesn't matter what system Pepper's play's in, and how foolish to think I would judge Lavar based on an injury, it's all based on his performance he's paid like an elite player and play's like nothing special. Anyone who would want Lavar over Pepper's is just foolish, the best D-end in the game against the most overated player in the game, LAVAR IS NOTHING SPECIAL!

Well, it's not a fair comparison since they don't play the same position, but if I had the choice, salary cap concerns aside, of course I would take Peppers. I may be a LaVar fanboy but I'm not a boneheaded fanboy.

I think it's a bit of a stretch to single out LaVar as the most overrated player in the game, I can think of plenty of guys who are more overrated.

offiss, has there ever been a time when you thought lavar was not overrated ? like the time lavar single handedly turned the skins season around with an interception return for a touchdown against the panthers or when he ended troy aikman's football career or is your hatred for lavar because you don't like penn state. by the way , the most overrated player in football is currently M.VICK !

offiss, has there ever been a time when you thought lavar was not overrated ? like the time lavar single handedly turned the skins season around with an interception return for a touchdown against the panthers or when he ended troy aikman's football career or is your hatred for lavar because you don't like penn state. by the way , the most overrated player in football is currently M.VICK !

offiss, has there ever been a time when you thought lavar was not overrated ? like the time lavar single handedly turned the skins season around with an interception return for a touchdown against the panthers or when he ended troy aikman's football career or is your hatred for lavar because you don't like penn state. by the way , the most overrated player in football is currently M.VICK !

Sorry, Didn't Intend To Post That 3 Times.

[QUOTE=wolfeskins]offiss, has there ever been a time when you thought lavar was not overrated ? like the time lavar single handedly turned the skins season around with an interception return for a touchdown against the panthers or when he ended troy aikman's football career or is your hatred for lavar because you don't like penn state. by the way , the most overrated player in football is currently M.VICK ![/QUOTE]


You are just to caught up in your own emotion's on this, he turned a season around? How did we finish that year? Out of the playoff's, nice job Lavar. Hatred? you should read my post's more carefully I have said on many occasion that I like Lavar personally, my problem is he's paid like an all world LB and play's no better than an average LB no matter how much more physically gifted he is than other LB's, ending Aikman's career? Somebody had to do it, if Lavar get's a clean shot on a player he will punish them the problem is those hit's are few and far between, and he misses way to many tackles, as for Penn state they are my favorite college team so you can throw that theory out the window. As for Vick, I agree he is going to follow in Lavar's footstep's.

Perhap's you should watch Lavar's game a little more closely, because if you do you will see a supposed pass rusher who get's eaten up by TE's and linemen, and once they lock on to him he goes no where, any LB with speed can get sack's running around people if called on to do so, the great LB's can disengage from a block Lavar can not, in fact I have yet to see a spin move out of him on a pass rush, he's a personality that the NFL just loves to promote but he AIN'T FOOL'IN ME!

ok offiss, your claims about lavar are fair ones, i just happen to disagree with you. personally, i feel lavar is a better player than you claim he is but never-the-less we'll just have to disagree on this one. thanks for the good discussion.

lavar could be elite if he were to be more of a student of the game, he relies solely on his athletic ability. With that being said, Lavar is in on everyplay, and is there for every tackle. Most of that has to do with his natural ability and insticnts. When you have a guy like lavar in the game he shuts down a side of the field. Plays are made opposite him solely becuase of his athletic ability to get there. If you have lavar on one side and taylor on the other you know big plays are going to start to happen. Mabye not by them, but they are creating opportunites for the other team to force something. Lavar doesnt need to be the leader on our defense, pierce can call the plays. But if you have two freaks of nature on the field it only makes you that much better

Where you would you guys rate LaVar in terms of the best outside linebackers in the league?

Top 5? Top 10? If you say outside of the Top 10 I want to see a list! ;)

easily top 10 , i would say , and possibly top 5

lbs I'd say were better than lavar would be in particular order, R. Lewis(even though I think he's overrated he's still pretty damn good), Derrick Brooks, Keith Brooking, Takeo Spikes, and when healthy Julian Peterson. I think unless he sharpens his mental aspect of the game, Marcus will pass him on the list as will players like Vilma and Keith Bullock. but right now I'd place him in the top 6-8 area and has the capability to be top 3.

Wolf people with brains actually got your back anyone who says that our defense would be the same w/o lavar is dumb. For example not to dish on Marshall( he did great in his situation coming in for the best lolb in the leage) but ESPN put out its 2004-2005 allstar team. On defense, Marcus Washington was named best SLB in the leage!!!! then Pierce best middle in any 4-3 Deffense and Farrior and Spike took the other two spots, I see 2 redskins but not the third guy, THIS PROVES WE WOULD BE BETTER. EVERY DEFENSIVE PLAYER ON THE TEAM IMPROVED "THE NO-NAME DEFENSE" IT IS IDIOTIC TO SAY THE ONLY PLAYER WITH A NAME PRIOR TO THE BEGGINING OF THE SEASON WOULD NOT IMPROVE, BOWEN WAS GREAT IN THE FIRST GAME BUT JUST OK LAST YEAR, SMOOT HAS IMPROVED AND WE ARE BETTER WITHOUT TROTTER,ARMSTEAD, AND BAILEY. ARRINGTON WOULD HAVE IMPROVED TO BE THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER THEREFORE MVP. HE GETS INJURED AND ALL YOU F#$#s descide he should be traded, what the hell is wrong with you. THIS MAN UNLIKE SMOOT IS NOT ARRGUING FOR EXTRA MONEY WHICH IS RIGHTFULLY HIS, HE SAID HE DIDN'T WANT TO PUT THE TEAM THROUGH THAT TROUBLE. HE HAS HEART AND HALF OF YOU SEEM THAT IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO GET A B##$# LIKE SMOOT BACK HE USED TO BE MY FAVORITE PLAYER BUT ARGUES FOR 2 MILLION DOLLORS AND IS PREPARED TO LEAVE. WTF. ARRINGTON IS LOSING 7 MILLION AND SAYS ITS OK AND THAT HE WILL FORGIVE BUT NOT FORGET. ANSWER BACK AND I'LL GIVE YOU REASONS TO ANY DEFENSE THAT YOU HAVE TO TRADE HIM

THINK ABOUT 3-4 WHICH WILLIAMS LIKES WITH ARRINGTON, BARROW, PIERCE AND WASHINGTON WHO ESPN NAMED THE BEST LINEBACKERS AT THIER POSITIONS!!

BigSKINBauer. First of all, Lavar decided NOT to drop the arbitration even though both his agent, himself, and the NFLPA read the contract and signed it. Meaning that six million dollars is not his. He's already the highest paid linebacker in football, and if he signed a contract without it, fuck him. He can go weep in his 20 room mansion, but I'm sure no one will hear him.

Have something to tell you here - players push for cash when they're free agents. You'd do the exact same thing Smoot is doing. Arrington is very undiciplined and is too much of a fool to be as big of a commodity as you see him. A linebacker telling the front office he should have a say in personel decesions? A linebacker who doesn't want to be a student of the game. A linebacker that talks about being a leader till the going gets tough. Lavar is the 2nd most gifted defensive player we have. His physical attributes are great. However, Lavar has a long way to go to be a great player.

Williams likes the 3-4 defense huh? Guess that's why he's never run one in the tenure of his career, maybe a few formations, but a majority of his defense is played out of the 4-3, always has been.

BigSKINBauer - people with brains refrain from talking in all caps and come into a conversation with at least a few facts. I suggest you do the same.

No one is asking for LaVar to be traded - his cap number simply wouldn't allow it. However, if you tell me we can have the best WR in the league for Arrington, I'd take it in a heart beat. It's hypothetical, but Marshall played solid at LaVars position. Had Lavar been there, we would have had more spectacular plays, but we also would have had more over-run and big gain plays for the other team. Our defense will be slightly better with Lavar, but not enough to make THAT big of a difference.

[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]Wolf people with brains actually got your back anyone who says that our defense would be the same w/o lavar is dumb. For example not to dish on Marshall( he did great in his situation coming in for the best lolb in the leage) but ESPN put out its 2004-2005 allstar team. On defense, Marcus Washington was named best SLB in the leage!!!! then Pierce best middle in any 4-3 Deffense and Farrior and Spike took the other two spots, I see 2 redskins but not the third guy, THIS PROVES WE WOULD BE BETTER. EVERY DEFENSIVE PLAYER ON THE TEAM IMPROVED "THE NO-NAME DEFENSE" IT IS IDIOTIC TO SAY THE ONLY PLAYER WITH A NAME PRIOR TO THE BEGGINING OF THE SEASON WOULD NOT IMPROVE, BOWEN WAS GREAT IN THE FIRST GAME BUT JUST OK LAST YEAR, SMOOT HAS IMPROVED AND WE ARE BETTER WITHOUT TROTTER,ARMSTEAD, AND BAILEY. ARRINGTON WOULD HAVE IMPROVED TO BE THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER THEREFORE MVP. HE GETS INJURED AND ALL YOU F#$#s descide he should be traded, what the hell is wrong with you. THIS MAN UNLIKE SMOOT IS NOT ARRGUING FOR EXTRA MONEY WHICH IS RIGHTFULLY HIS, HE SAID HE DIDN'T WANT TO PUT THE TEAM THROUGH THAT TROUBLE. HE HAS HEART AND HALF OF YOU SEEM THAT IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO GET A B##$# LIKE SMOOT BACK HE USED TO BE MY FAVORITE PLAYER BUT ARGUES FOR 2 MILLION DOLLORS AND IS PREPARED TO LEAVE. WTF. ARRINGTON IS LOSING 7 MILLION AND SAYS ITS OK AND THAT HE WILL FORGIVE BUT NOT FORGET. ANSWER BACK AND I'LL GIVE YOU REASONS TO ANY DEFENSE THAT YOU HAVE TO TRADE HIM

THINK ABOUT 3-4 WHICH WILLIAMS LIKES WITH ARRINGTON, BARROW, PIERCE AND WASHINGTON WHO ESPN NAMED THE BEST LINEBACKERS AT THIER POSITIONS!![/QUOTE]


Speak up, we can barely hear you.

While I agree that this defense would be better with LaVar on the outside starting, instead of Marshall I don't think that those that think otherwise-such as Offiss-are F#$#$ for thinking otherwise.

Not sure how you came to the conclusion that the bonus in question is rightfully his but he hasn't abandoned the case. The case is still expected to be disputed, sometime in June I think.

As for Smoot, he's a free agent and he's negotiating for the best deal he can possibly get. LaVar would be doing the same if he were in the same boat right now.

he gets hurt and you all turn on him wtf

2002-2003
11.5 sacks overrated my ass!
PEPPERS 10 SACKS AVERAGE OVER LAST 3 YEARS

[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]he gets hurt and you all turn on him wtf[/QUOTE]


Were all turning on him?? I'm pretty sure 90% of the people on this site are agreeing that our defense is going to be much better with LaVar back. Now, I disagree with Offiss, but I will vouch for him and say that he has had this opinion for a while; he didnt just turn on him.

Quotes from you all


lavar could be elite if he were to be more of a student of the game, he relies solely on his athletic ability. With that being said, Lavar is in on everyplay, and is there for every tackle.

“Did someone call LaVar a leader? Classic comedy! Whiner - not a leader” Daseal

It's his lack of concentration and education to play his position. He overpursues many, many plays. As many big plays as LaVar makes, he also gives up a big play with counters, etc.
Daseal

I don't see LaVar as the leader of our defense. To me - Fred Smoot has that role. Daseal


I am not a big Lavar fan he's way overated, he's judged by his athletisism and not as a football player in which I think he is not, he's just another physically gifted player who doesn't have an instinct for the game.
----- offiss

Ive said it before and I'll say it again, I would love to see LA traded ---irish

Sorry to tell you this buddy but LaVar is not that good ---saden1

(RAY LEWIS OVER RATED - 114.875 tackles a year omitting hurt year) My opinion

heh, LaVar has been labeled overrated for some time. He's exciting to watch and has a personallity like McNabb's that draws the media to him. However, Peppers is an amazing player who would impact our defense more. I'd like to see a poll on who you'd take - peppers or lavar. It would be interesting (assuming no salary cap implications, etc.) DEASEL

lavar could be elite if he were to be more of a student of the game, he relies solely on his athletic ability. With that being said, Lavar is in on everyplay, and is there for every tackle.
Daseal

Five of those quotes are from Daseal, it's not like those are the opinions of 10 different people

look who responded to my message, deasal did first so i posted that people were turning on lavar thats it my fault for saying all but deasal also posted more messages than anyone then prolly me

No one is saying LaVar is not a good peice to our team, hell hes a great peice of our team. However, he is getting paid to be the best Linebacker in the league, and he is not that right now, he's just not. I really dont think his injury had anything to do with anyone's opinion. In Fact, I bet alot of people here think that LaVar did pretty well, coming back to still play two worthless games at the end of the year. Half of those quotes werent people "Turning on LaVar". People were just pointing out their opinions that they dont think he is the best linebacker in the league, or he is not the leader of our defense. I think everyone here respects LaVar's ability, and the majority of people are happy he is on our team and not another team. Some people would like to trade him, which is fine, there are very few people who do. Alot of us just think he still has some things to prove. He is a good linebacker in the NFL, he just needs to take his game to the next level and become an elite linebacker.

thanks for the back up bigskinbauer, theres definately some people on this sight that have forgotten how good lavar is and feel the skins don't need him any more. i'm not quite sure what happened to their loyalty, remember lavar didn't have to restructure is contract , he could have said to himself "i've been here 4 years and i've played for 4 differrent defensive coordinaters, i'm outta here whem my contract is up" but he didn't , he stayed and it wasn't just for the $ because he would have been paid alot by whoever got him, he stayed out of loyalty and said himself that he wanted to be a part of the redskins building into a championship team. he gets hurt and people forget all the good things. shame on them but i'm pretty much done talking about it. they have their opinion and we have ours.

to say that he is not a student of the game, that he is overrated, that we would trade him in a heartbeat, saying that smoot is a bigger leader which I believe is not true, that he is overrated,... some not all just believe what the media portrays i don't understand how a player who can single handedly change a season from going down the drain as one of the worst, to actually coming back to have a chance is not a leader. His interseption gave the team a spirit that we could do it, that spirit is stemed from leadership, I understand that we do have other leaders which is great and I try not to be biased, Smoot USED TO BE my favorite player but i don't believe he is a better leader. Some leaders on our team would be Coles, Springs, and Pierce. I do not put smoot anywhere near that catagory and I hope Daesal tells me why he thinks Smoot is more of a leader. Lavar's inspiration is what drove this team to that success and he would be playing in the probowl in about 25 minutes if he were not to get hurt.

you can claim to but one year ago no one would say he wasn't the face of this team, the leader the role model, I believe he has the love for this team as many other players do not. THe city loves him i am just stuned to see that there are only a few who are behind him, all of you may not be against him but few are behind him.

NEXT YEAR --56--

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[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]to say that he is not a student of the game, that he is overrated, that we would trade him in a heartbeat, saying that smoot is a bigger leader which I believe is not true, that he is overrated,... some not all just believe what the media portrays i don't understand how a player who can single handedly change a season from going down the drain as one of the worst, to actually coming back to have a chance is not a leader. His interseption gave the team a spirit that we could do it, that spirit is stemed from leadership, I understand that we do have other leaders which is great and I try not to be biased, Smoot USED TO BE my favorite player but i don't believe he is a better leader. Some leaders on our team would be Coles, Springs, and Pierce. I do not put smoot anywhere near that catagory and I hope Daesal tells me why he thinks Smoot is more of a leader. Lavar's inspiration is what drove this team to that success and he would be playing in the probowl in about 25 minutes if he were not to get hurt.[/QUOTE]

I will tell you how Smoot is a leader he play's hurt and sacrifices his body no matter how much pain he is in for the team, his play makes him a leader, you wont find him on the sidelines with pain, only an injury where he couldn't play, Smoot play's with a big heart. How's are defense been with Lavar on the field? We haven't stopped anyone, with Lavar out this year we were #1 most of the year and finished in the top 3, and what a comparison for Lavar to an undrafted journeymen in Marshall, If we can finish in the top 3 with the way our offense played this year keeping the defense on the field for 2/3rd's of the game with a journeymen LB how much more of an impact will Lavar have? I say not remotly enough to live up to that contract he was given, the one he signed and now is crying about because he was to stupid to read it and to stupid to hire a real agent who could read it, the fact is he is already way overpaid I can't imagine us agreeing to an additional 6 million, and yet he is still crying about it. Smoot has every right to try and get a big contract just as Lavar did, you have to have some brain's to be a leader and Smoot is much smarter than Lavar, Smoot fired the Poston's a long time ago!

It also seem's you have hung Lavar's entire carreer on 1 play, yes 1 play, big deal! Did we win a SB that year I am not aware of? Did we make the playoff's? The answer of coarse is no, so please stop with the shot heard around the world analogies please.

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1) The defense got decent pressure on the QB this past season due to the Gregg Williams blitz packages. But if we had Lavar in there, you can line him up on passing downs as a DE, and then you don't need to blitz as many defenders. You send Lavar, dropping LBs and safeties into coverage, and lo and behold Lavar's pressure results in a hurried throw by the QB. And when you've got guys in coverage, and hurried throws by the QB, you get more interceptions. And we saw in 2002-2003 he had 11.5 sacks, so we know Lavar can get to the QB.

2) Trading Lavar is a financial impossibility. Trading him would hit our cap with $20 million in 2005. Just so you know, the team has only about $4-$5 million in room right now.

3) I think that Lavar and Smoot bring a lot of energy to the field, they're fierce, passionate, and emotional players. But the leader of the D is Antonio Pierce. He calls all the signals, studies the opposing offenses, and lines his teammates up accordingly. When rookies like Sean Taylor don't know their responsibility on a certain play call, they look to Pierce to set them straight. See, you have Gregg Williams on the sidelines calling plays before the snap, and he is a brilliant defensive mind. But once the offense lines up, Gregg Williams can't help you anymore. It's up to the players to adjust to formations and pre-snap motion, and Antonio Pierce is the guy who calls out those adjustments. Gregg Williams is reason 1 why the D was so great this year, but Pierce is reason 1a. He is the leader now, he's earned that role on the team.

All that said, Lavar makes the team so much better. Mainly because of the big play and turnover potential.

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Arrington is a top 3 LB in the legue when healthy. I know some people here disagree but I'll go with the football professionals who all seem to think he is a difference maker. He dictates pass protection when in the game and is cause for concern on every play from the offense's point of view. He plays at another level in terms of speed and agility. Does he make mistakes? Yeah he makes mistakes but I'd argue the mistakes he makes are highlighted simply by the fact that he is faster and quicker than just about any other LB in the league. The mistakes he makes are common mistakes that every LB in the league makes. In fact i wouldn't call many of them mistakes but rather just good plays by the offense. It just looks worse when he does it because he is on another level in terms of athletic ability. Is he as good as say Ray-Ray? I couldn't possibly say yes but I can't think of any other OLB I'd rather have when healthy.

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I think the people that are "down" on LaVar are that way because of his huge contract. I can understand that. Also, the knocks on him are that he plays out of control and out of position at times. I think that comes with the territory with a player like him.

I also think with Sean Taylor we're going to say similar things about him, but again that comes with the territory. For every play that he over runs, he'll have a bone crunching hit or force a turnover. Taylor and Arrington are both very physically gifted players who play with a ton of aggression and instinct. They're going to make their share of mistakes, but both will also make their share of hard hits and momentum changing plays.

It's interesting how it seems so many people are down on LaVar, but hold Smoot up to a different level. Perhaps if Smoot received a monster contract we might look at him differently when he gets beat for a TD or gets schooled all game long by a WR.

I think most would agree that straight up, LaVar is the better football player when compared to Smoot. So what makes them different? A big contract. Once Smoot has his it will be interesting to see if opinions change.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I think the people that are "down" on LaVar are that way because of his huge contract. I can understand that. Also, the knocks on him are that he plays out of control and out of position at times. I think that comes with the territory with a player like him.

I also think with Sean Taylor we're going to say similar things about him, but again that comes with the territory. For every play that he over runs, he'll have a bone crunching hit or force a turnover. Taylor and Arrington are both very physically gifted players who play with a ton of aggression and instinct. They're going to make their share of mistakes, but both will also make their share of hard hits and momentum changing plays.

It's interesting how it seems so many people are down on LaVar, but hold Smoot up to a different level. Perhaps if Smoot received a monster contract we might look at him differently when he gets beat for a TD or gets schooled all game long by a WR.

I think most would agree that straight up, LaVar is the better football player when compared to Smoot. So what makes them different? A big contract. Once Smoot has is it will be interesting to see if opinions change.[/QUOTE]

Great post Matty. I couldn't agree more....

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[quote]2) Trading Lavar is a financial impossibility. Trading him would hit our cap with $20 million in 2005. Just so you know, the team has only about $4-$5 million in room right now.[/quote]

Please read through the post and find anywhere someone says trade him. Everyone saying that he is a bit over-rated has also said it's impossible to trade him, that is not what we were debating. We may have put hypothetical situations out, but those were laid out ahead of time!

SChneed: Though I feel Peirce plays the roll of field quarterback, I don't see him as a leader. I don't think he's the guy who finally got off the bench and all of a sudden in the locker room presence. I feel Smoot is the guy that gets people fired up, I feel he leads by example, and he's been a veteran starter for the team for time to come. Pierce is great in that MLB roll, I loved seeing him move Dlinemen around, telling people what to do. At one point Greg Williams said that he would get half way through a signal and Pierce would turn around and finish calling it because he knew the rest. That's a great MLB, no doubt. However, I don't feel that property makes a real leader that everyone rallies around. Those are just my thoughts.

FRPLG: LaVar overruns not because of his speed, by his lack of confidence. You can get him going with counter plays, reverses etc. If he studied more film and was less of a freelancer he'd make many more plays, in my opinion.

Matty, good post. It's partially contract and partially attitude for me. The contract, was bigger than he deserved in my eyes, but I also know he won't receive a majority of it because we'll have him restructure in 4-5 years. The 6 million he signed the contract without but wants now is silly to me, and I think he should give it up. I know 6 million is a lot, and if he had a leg to stand on I wouldn't complain. However, if you sign a contract without it, sorry. Looks like he also overran his contract negotiations. I've said many times LaVar will make a big play because he's gifted, but he will also make more mistakes than Marshall, which on a fast team like our defense isn't always THAT bad. He's great in coverage because he matches up with TEs well. We have the ability to drop ST, Washington, and Arrington into coverage on top tier TEs. If it's a smaller guy we can even put Springs. That gives us a lot of leeway as far as how to scheme for big name TEs like TG, Shockey, McMichael, Gates, etc. Like Offiss, our defense was already great last year, I think we allowed the lowest yards per play, either that or 2nd, which in my opinion is a better gauge than total yards. So the drop off between him and Marshall will be slim. Will I be glad to have him back, sure will. He's exciting to watch, no doubt. I don't hate Lavar, just some of his actions. I just think he gets too much press and too much credit, but seems to get down when we're losing and doesn't do his job as the face of our defense to get the guys riled up. Complaining about getting a say in personel decisions also infuriated me. He's a linebacker - not exactly FO material. Shutup and play is what Snyder shoulda told him.

Smoot has the ability to be a leader which is why a lot of people love him. I remember him getting ragged when he got used one game, and that will happen to every player. I was in on it! If Smoot received Bailey money, I'd agree. I don't think his talent equates to that, but I understand Smoot jockeying for position. He needs to make money. I feel the club should find a way to accomidate him as long as it doesn't deystroy the cap. Smoot is more important to this scheme because of the 1 on 1 style we run. We need good corners. If our corners don't keep coverage. We're screwed!

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Matty you pretty much summed up my feeling's on Lavar we are paying him way to much money for what he bring's to the field, if he was paid like an average LB or there about's I would be fine, but to blow our cap out of the water for any LB other than lawerence Taylor is dumb on management's part, but if you except that kind of contract you better be able to justify it with your play and he never has. As for Smoot I have said more than once that he's asking for to much money and all his antic's right now are just about trying to leverage the fan support into a bigger deal, I don't feel he will do better on the open market than the deal we offered, even if he recieved an offer close it won't be that much of a difference to make him jump team's, I said it before I don't believe Smoot will be else where next year I just don't see other team's breaking the bank for him I think we have been very generous with our offer and I believe he really want's to be in DC.

As for Lavar I am hoping he can justify that contract with his play but he will need a monster year to justify a monster contract.

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WOW...I've created a monster.